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SBU Football / Re: Stony Brook Seawolves Football News, Press Releases, etc
« on: November 21, 2020, 06:02:33 pm »
#15 Coastal Carolina beats Sun Belt power Appalachian State at home to improve to 8-0 on the season. The best start for a Sun Belt team EVER. It will be interesting to see where the playoff committee ranks them come Tuesday. #21 Liberty plays at NC State tonight at 7:30.

SBU Football / Re: 2020 SBU Football
« on: November 18, 2020, 03:23:27 am »
Lots of great ideas in this thread on how to boost attendance and get this program to the next level. I believe the biggest and best ones would be to bring in a coach who plays an exciting brand of football. We pay Coach P high FCS/low end FBS coach money to get five wins out of it. I say we go after a coordinator from a Big 12 school and have him change the culture around here. They score like it's nobody's business down there. Simply improving the product on the field would go a long way in getting the house packed again. Better coaching gets us in the win column more often which means more fan support, better recruiting, deeper playoff runs and a football program that actually matches the university. SBU is an elite university. No reason we should have a trash football team with nobody in the stands every weekend. Especially when we play in a damn good conference. If we can't get the students to turn out (we can fix that, student section was packed a decade ago), we can at least get the community to turn out. With 3M people on LI, it's not too much of a stretch to get 12K (or 20K ideally, you know where I stand on a move to FBS) into the stands. Make it happen!

SBU Football / Re: 2020 SBU Football
« on: November 13, 2020, 12:53:19 pm »
Calm down y'all.

Players we can get from anywhere. Getting students in the stands to watch the games is another matter though. In that case, going after more OOS kids and using them to help build a community where people don't just go home every weekend is a great initiative. SBU can pull out of state kids. I was one of them.

SBU Men's Basketball / Re: Looking ahead to 2020-21
« on: November 13, 2020, 12:50:55 pm »
The Ivy League canceled its winter season. Are we really gonna do this?

We may not end up playing a season with numbers spiking right now, but it won't be due to the Ivy League.  I think there is a bit of Ivy fatigue with them making these decisions.

I agree with you. They're always going to err on the side of caution – kind of a holier-than-thou vibe coming from them. I just wonder with cases popping up seemingly everywhere and the COVID numbers talk resurfacing with the election behind us if universities will say it isn't worth the trouble.

It isn't. This winter is going to be terrible and I wouldn't expect any winter or spring sports. We'll lose a whole athletic year to Covid. So no spring football either. Even the FBS is going to be hard pressed to finish their season. Like half the games this weekend have been cancelled/postponed (not really, but it feels like it).

SBU Football / Re: 2020 SBU Football
« on: November 12, 2020, 03:16:14 pm »
The Stony Brook student body is **** pathetic. The school somehow keeps accepting these pasty-skinned losers who know more about League of Legends and anime than they do a shotgun formation. These kids provide nothing of value! Please stop admitting these people that add nothing to the campus.

Stony Brook also needs to add more out of state and upstate students. Commuters are also a cancer. Stony Brook isn’t a “commuter school”, but it still has far too many commuters for me to be comfortable with.

Change has to start at the administration. The new president comes from Big 12 Texas? Well start implementing a Big 12 mentality already!!!

I'm with this 100%.

SBU Football / Re: 2020 SBU Football
« on: November 07, 2020, 06:32:02 pm »
liberty wins in OT:

Not OT, in regular session. Won with 1 second on the clock. Good game

Crazy ending and the best game of the day thus far.

It's wild how Virginia Tech can beat up on UVA for fifteen years straight, but then when they're ranked highly lose to JMU, ODU, and now Liberty.

SBU Men's Basketball / Re: Looking ahead to 2020-21
« on: November 04, 2020, 04:47:10 am »
I will say right not dropping football is a non-starter. What self-respecting university doesn't have football? Especially one with the ambitions we have? Total non-starter. Football stays.

No one should want Stony Brook to be a full-time member of the CAA. It’s a lateral move. It’s still a one-bid conference for basketball and in the FCS for football. We’d be in the same hellhole.
Much better competition in terms of Basketball. Vermont is an America East powerhouse. Every team in the CAA is good, not top-heavy. And there's not another conference with numerous teams close enough that should and would want SBU.

A10? Enjoy getting whooped by VCU, Rhode Island, Dayton and UMass
ASUN- that's a step down
Big East? Funny joke
Not even going to touch ACC
C-USA is too far away and most of those schools would beat SBU
MAAC is like ASUN, step down
MAC is too far away, and too good

Maybe Patriot league, but I only know them for FCS football, not basketball.

Seriously, aside from CAA, where else do you think SBU could go? They're not good enough to join a league with plenty of good teams, and don't have the money to fly to every game.

CAA is a lateral move and doesn't get us into a multi-bid conference. Our eyes need to be set on the A10. I completely believe with the amount we spend on athletics that we could compete in the A10. Recruiting would see a huge boost and I have no reason to believe we couldn't be in the top half of that conference every year. The A10 sends at least 2-3 teams to the tournament each year and has sent as many as five. THAT needs to be our target. They're full right now, but should St. Louis (Big East Rumored), Dayton (Big East rumored), Umass (AAC rumored), or someone else leave we have to be up there on expansion targets. There are schools in that conference such as Fordham who are clearly overmatched and are an RPI anchor for that conference. I've seen us mentioned on A10 fan boards as a replacement for deadweight Fordham.

A10 or an FBS conference should be our goal for sports. Otherwise just keep things in the AE/CAA.

SBU Football / Re: Stony Brook Seawolves Football News, Press Releases, etc
« on: November 01, 2020, 06:25:05 pm »
It happened guys...

Coastal Carolina is 6-0 and ranked 15th in the AP Poll ahead of major programs like Oklahoma, USC, Texas, and Michigan. Liberty is ranked 25th in the poll also with a 6-0 record. Both teams meet on December 5th which could easily be a top 15 match-up if they both continue to win.

But please, tell me again, how we have to stay in the FCS forever and deal with Coach P being able to barely crack five wins. Bull****. We can be way, way, WAY better than we currently are. Remember that we were beating both of these programs handily on the field less than a decade ago.

SBU Football / Re: 2020 SBU Football
« on: October 31, 2020, 05:38:58 pm »
“King, a running backs coach, was enticed. It was his favorite type of football: ground and pound. Now, as he enters his sixth year coaching Stony Brook running backs...“

Seems the offense will follow the same pattern as the past few years...three runs up the middle and punt.

The coaching staff has to be smarter than that. Fields on his own is a dynamic dual threat - taking after the skill sets you see in the NFL right now of Russell Wilson, Kyler Murray and Lamar Jackson – and their backs this year don't seem as explosive as the past.

Clearly they're not, because if they were Carbone would have been benched for Fields for the 2018 season among other things. Coach P is a ground and pound dinosaur and always will be. Yes teams that run the ball well tend to win, but come on man, it's 2020 not 1950. Spread the defense out and get an athletic QB who can throw. Every QB has to be at least somewhat of a runner now. The days of a statue like Peyton Manning sitting back there and never running are long dead. Especially at the college level. Friggin Daniel Jones is the leading rusher for the Giants for instance.

I'm not as hard on Heilbron as a lot of you. That said his biggest screw up was not booting Heilbron and promoting Hemphill as mentioned. Our defense was elite during the Hemphill years. We've fallen a long way since then. Meanwhile Hempill is taking down ranked ACC teams as the DC at Wake Forest. I have to imagine we'd be in a much better spot as a program had we promoted and paid him.

It is what it is.

Being ranked #25 during a season where entire conferences are not playing means absolutely squat. Otherwise, CCU would barely be getting votes.

Check the poll buddy. The Big Ten starts playing again this week and the Pac-12 in two weeks (each conference has multiple ranked teams). The MAC and MWC also have plans for a return and announced them a while ago. Every FBS school except for maybe UConn is having some sort of season. They know the big boys are coming back yet they still ranked them. The Fun Belt is having one hell of a year as is Liberty. My point is that less than 10 years ago we were frequently beating both of those programs. SBU can be a competitive FBS football program if we put the right pieces in place.

Former Big South conference mate Coastal Carolina has been ranked in the AP poll for the first time ever in just their fourth year of FBS football.

Additionally, another former Big South conference member Liberty is receiving plenty of votes and would be the 33rd ranked team in the country if the rankings went down that far. Every FBS conference has announced plans to have some kind of fall season, so it's not some fluke due to only half of the country playing football.

Need I remind you all that both schools are programs we frequently beat up on when we were in the Big South. I don't want to hear any of this bull**** that we'd never be a competitive FBS program, or that we don't belong there, or some other nonsense. Academically we run circles around both of those schools and are far more desirable. Don't tell me we couldn't make it in the FBS.

SBU Men's Basketball / Re: Welcome to the Wild Wild West
« on: October 16, 2020, 02:48:47 am »
thanks for sharing- while i largely agree- is there any angle where this actually helps us?

i think likely no, we'll just shuffle kids in and out faster, not worrying about development, or a cohesive locker room, etc.  the rich get richer here.  it's already been happening.

obviously good for the athletes but overall bad for the sport and the fan.

I think there will be more transferring down too. Each school still only has 13 scholarships and no one wants to sit on the bench.

I wonder if the best teams and coaches will be the ones that can keep rosters stable. Kind of like how Villanova has been the best program of the last 10 years because kids stayed and learned the system.

I think the best programs will be unaffected. They'll have multiple players who leave for the NBA after a year or two. No change for them.

SBU Men's Basketball / Re: Welcome to the Wild Wild West
« on: October 15, 2020, 04:36:41 pm »
thanks for sharing- while i largely agree- is there any angle where this actually helps us?

i think likely no, we'll just shuffle kids in and out faster, not worrying about development, or a cohesive locker room, etc.  the rich get richer here.  it's already been happening.

obviously good for the athletes but overall bad for the sport and the fan.

The only way around this is to compete for a better conference. The AE is the toilet bowl of all conferences. Move up to a real mid major conference like the A10 for BB, then then SB would be on the receiving side, not the losing side.

I agree completely. While this might suck for our program, we have no real right to keep a kid here if they have an opportunity elsewhere. Upgrading conferences truly is the only way around this for SBU.

All sights need to be set on the A10 in my opinion. It lets us keep football right where it currently is while being a giant step up otherwise.

SBU Football / Re: 2021 Commitments
« on: October 08, 2020, 09:03:10 pm »
He actually had offers from UMASS and Central Michigan

I expect us to beat out schools like that for local talent. Especially UMass.

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