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Athletics => SBU Men's Basketball => Topic started by: Checkmate on November 12, 2017, 08:57:47 pm


Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: Checkmate on July 10, 2026, 02:34:37 pm
Old news to some, new news to me (and maybe you):

• Toby Onyekonwu committed to D-II Lewis
• Leon Nahar committed to D-II Florida Tech
• Andrew Okafor committed to D-II Colorado Christian
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: Checkmate on June 23, 2026, 10:07:34 am
Meh move. It's fine I guess. It would get the basketball conference back to 14, and make it so everyone in lacrosse is now with us in hoops too.

I'd imagine the southern schools are rolling their eyes the most. But it does open up the possibility of a north and south division within the conference, with us joining Drexel, Fairfield, Monmouth, Northeastern and Towson.

https://x.com/PeteThamel/status/2069211686037328222?s=20

https://x.com/RossDellenger/status/2069211957631098947
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: Moveitfred on May 19, 2026, 10:43:11 am
For those keeping score, Jared Frey is off to Division II Hawaii Pacific. Love that move.

I would love to MAKE that move. Except I'm really old, can't shoot any more, and my joints are disintegrating.





Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: OldSeawolf on May 19, 2026, 08:39:20 am
Never liked him as a player.  Couldn't cut the AE; D2 player at best.  Hope he enjoys the weather there at least.
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: Checkmate on May 18, 2026, 11:29:51 am
For those keeping score, Jared Frey is off to Division II Hawaii Pacific. Love that move.
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: Oakes on May 01, 2026, 07:19:07 am
What a few days for the Hofstra transfers. Davis to Texas Tech, Edmead to NC State, Onuetu to Wisconsin. And they got back two former CAA guys – Justin Moore (Drexel ➡️ Loyola Chicago) and Deywilk Tavarez (Delaware State ➡️ Charleston ➡️ Loyola Chicago) – and another familiar face in Tanner Thomas (Sacred Heart ➡️ Loyola Marymount)

Other updates ...
Xavier Abreu – Northeastern ➡️ Charleston
Xander Alarie – Northeastern ➡️ Bradley
Andrew Ball – Monmouth ➡️ Richmond
Shane Blakeney – Drexel ➡️ South Carolina
Kilian Brockhof – W&M ➡️ Eastern Michigan
Mister Dean – Charleston ➡️ UCF
Colby Duggan – Campbell ➡️ Charleston ➡️ Boston College
JB Frankel – Northeastern ➡️ Boston College
Ned Hull – Elon ➡️ Virginia Tech
Ryan Jackson Jr. – W&M ➡️ UTEP
William Kermoury – Northeastern ➡️ UNCW
Chol Machot – Charleston ➡️ Georgetown
Trent Middleton – Delaware ➡️ UNC A&T ➡️ Louisiana
Reese Miller – W&M ➡️ UTEP
LA Pratt – Elon ➡️ Northeastern ➡️ Northwestern
Justin Ray – Monmouth ➡️ Wake Forest
Christian Reeves – Charleston ➡️ Kansas
Eunique Rink – Hampton ➡️ La Salle
Cornelius Robinson – Monmouth ➡️ Hampton
Tunde Vahlberg Fasasi – W&M ➡️ New Mexico
Dylan Williamson – Towson ➡️ URI

Thanks for sharing Checkie. I’m most excited to watch all the minutes Reeves and Machot will be getting at Kansas and Georgetown respectively. Especially Reeves playing with Kinney and Stokes.

Also excited for my original favorite team, Boston College, to finally get back on track under Luke Murray with some CAA guys I’ve watched in the mix like Colby Duggan and JB Frankel. It was my dads school, so growing up this was my team before their program collapsed after the 2011 season…
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: Checkmate on April 20, 2026, 08:57:35 am
What a few days for the Hofstra transfers. Davis to Texas Tech, Edmead to NC State, Onuetu to Wisconsin. And they got back two former CAA guys – Justin Moore (Drexel ➡️ Loyola Chicago) and Deywilk Tavarez (Delaware State ➡️ Charleston ➡️ Loyola Chicago) – and another familiar face in Tanner Thomas (Sacred Heart ➡️ Loyola Marymount)

Other updates ...
Xavier Abreu – Northeastern ➡️ Charleston
Xander Alarie – Northeastern ➡️ Bradley
Andrew Ball – Monmouth ➡️ Richmond
Shane Blakeney – Drexel ➡️ South Carolina
Kilian Brockhof – W&M ➡️ Eastern Michigan
Mister Dean – Charleston ➡️ UCF
Colby Duggan – Campbell ➡️ Charleston ➡️ Boston College
JB Frankel – Northeastern ➡️ Boston College
Ned Hull – Elon ➡️ Virginia Tech
Ryan Jackson Jr. – W&M ➡️ UTEP
William Kermoury – Northeastern ➡️ UNCW
Chol Machot – Charleston ➡️ Georgetown
Trent Middleton – Delaware ➡️ UNC A&T ➡️ Louisiana
Reese Miller – W&M ➡️ UTEP
LA Pratt – Elon ➡️ Northeastern ➡️ Northwestern
Justin Ray – Monmouth ➡️ Wake Forest
Christian Reeves – Charleston ➡️ Kansas
Eunique Rink – Hampton ➡️ La Salle
Cornelius Robinson – Monmouth ➡️ Hampton
Tunde Vahlberg Fasasi – W&M ➡️ New Mexico
Dylan Williamson – Towson ➡️ URI
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: Accelerator on April 17, 2026, 07:55:30 am
Chris Mack just left Charleston after 2 years to take that job, so that's definitely one of the reasons they picked him up - he's already well familiar with him.
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: Checkmate on April 16, 2026, 12:08:11 pm
Shoshkikj is taking his talents to South ... Florida. Good get for them.
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: Checkmate on April 13, 2026, 01:27:05 pm
Down to just two holdovers – Wessler (UNCW) and DeCady (Hofstra).

Tejada to Cincinnati. Davis Jr. to USF. Walker to UCF. Rivera-Torres to … High Point. 🤷
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: Checkmate on April 07, 2026, 11:20:17 am
The overhaul continues. Edmead and Reeves joined the portal, so it's just the four guys listed above. Still no UNCW entries.
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: sbugold on April 06, 2026, 01:24:37 pm
Just read that Pratt is headed to the portal--wants to get another year of eligibility, since he only played in 9 games one season.  Somehow, I doubt he will get it.  But, what has he got to lose.  Would be great to get him back: whadyah think???
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: Checkmate on April 06, 2026, 11:16:22 am
Chart above updated. Hofstra holding strong with three all-CAA players still with the squad. We'll see if it stays like that. A lot of departures otherwise.
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: Checkmate on March 30, 2026, 09:36:05 pm
Keep an eye on a potential Stony Brook/Akron game in 2026-27. Dustin Ford, Geno's kid brother, elevated to head coach for the Zips.
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: Checkmate on March 30, 2026, 11:56:21 am
Always a fun exercise ... who stays and who goes from the all-conference teams. Tejada hit the portal today, and Williamson is out at Towson too. Just a wild time in college basketball. Bold are still in play, plain font exhausted their eligibility (I think) and italics means they're in the portal. Edit: And now Rivera-Torres. Big losses. But not remotely surprising.

2025-26 CAA Men’s Basketball Postseason Awards
All-CAA First Team

DJ Smith                         Campbell                   Gr.        G               North Little Rock, Ark.
Jlynn Counter                Charleston                  Gr.          G               Oklahoma City, Okla.
Cruz Davis                      Hofstra                       Jr.           G              Plano, Texas
Patrick Wessler             UNCW                         R-Jr.       F                Matthews, N.C.
Erik Pratt                        Stony Brook                Sr.          G               Lake Worth, Fla.
 
All-CAA Second Team
Shane Blakeney             Drexel                          Jr.           G               Rock Hill. S.C.
Chandler Cuthrell          Elon                              Gr.          F                Baltimore, Md.
Preston Edmead            Hofstra                        Fr.          G               Deer Park, N.Y.
Jason Rivera-Torres      Monmouth                  Jr.           G               Bronx, N.Y.

Nolan Hodge                 UNCW                         Sr.          G               Greensboro, N.C.
 
All-CAA Third Team
Jeremiah Johnson         Campbell                     So.          G               Del City, Okla.
Christian Reeves           Charleston                  R-Jr.       C               Charlotte, N.C.
Lewis Walker                 N.C. A&T                     R-Fr.      F                Winston-Salem, NC
Tyler Tejada                   Towson                       Jr.           G/F           Teaneck, N.J.
Dylan Williamson          Towson                       R-Jr.       G               Upper Marlboro, Md.

 
CAA All-Defensive Team
Chol Machot                  Charleston                  R-So.      C               Melbourne, Australia
Christian Reeves           Charleston                  R-Jr.       C               Charlotte, N.C.
Shane Blakeney             Drexel                          Jr.           G               Rock Hill. S.C.

Joshua DeCady             Hofstra                        So.          F                Queens Village, N.Y.
Jason Rivera-Torres      Monmouth                  Jr.           G               Bronx, N.Y.

CAA All-Rookie Team
Chris Davis Jr.                Charleston                  Fr.          G               Madison, Wis.
Preston Edmead            Hofstra                        Fr.          G               Deer Park, N.Y.
Xavier Abreu                  Northeastern              Fr.          G               Lynn, Mass.
Lewis Walker                 N.C. A&T                     R-Fr.      F                Winston-Salem, N.C.
Andrej Shoshkikj           Stony Brook                Fr.          G               Skopje, North Macedonia
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: Chairman of the Board on March 20, 2026, 03:49:05 pm
hof is up 28-18 on #4 bama so far. 
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: ecasadoSBU on March 20, 2026, 10:10:08 am
I have a few games from the region I'll be watching today.


Connecticut
St. John's
Villanova
Hofstra
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: Checkmate on March 19, 2026, 10:37:43 pm
Just circling back on the Sun Belt tournament format ... #10 Georgia Southern won five games in five days, but they were bounced by top seed Troy in the final. #8 Southern Miss also made a run. So amazingly, the 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7 seeds were all one and done.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2026_Sun_Belt_Conference_men%27s_basketball_tournament

Last year was the first one in the current format. Troy emerged then too, as the 3 seed.
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: Checkmate on March 15, 2026, 10:36:23 pm
While Hofstra deals with Alabama, UNCW goes back at it on Tuesday against a familiar foe – Yale – in the NIT.
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: ecasadoSBU on March 15, 2026, 01:22:27 pm
Another selection sunday in which our names won't be called.  :'(
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: Accelerator on March 13, 2026, 01:34:24 pm
I tend to agree that it's about money - and with all the well-off alumni that Stony Brook has produced with our academic prowess, it's a damn shame that our athletic dept. has not done a good enough job with convincing them to pay for our roster.
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: Moveitfred on March 13, 2026, 12:45:58 pm
The Ohio Bobcats bowed out of the MAC tournament in the quarters and finished slightly below .500 on the year. The "Fire Jeff Boals" thread is getting a lot of traction on the Ohio fan forum as a result. Many of the comments would feel right at home here in the SBU forum.

https://www.bobcatattack.com/messageboard/topic.asp?FromPage=1&PID=399293&ForumPID=1&page=1

Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: Moveitfred on March 11, 2026, 05:56:11 am
Good game and I thought a fine showcase for the CAA. Lots of talented players on the floor, which was characteristic of the conference as a whole this season.

Was thinking especially how there were two very dynamic first-years so close to each other on this island in Edmead and our Shosh.
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: Triple Lindy on March 10, 2026, 11:47:32 pm
Three locals all heading to the big dance. St. John’s, LIU and Hofstra… How about that.
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: ecasadoSBU on March 10, 2026, 09:21:18 pm
That was great final for the CAA. Hofstra wins and punches its ticket to March Madness for the first time in 25 years (they won in 2020 but was cancelled)

Sincerely happy for them but also a bit jealous. :(

Hoping we can get to the top of the CAA mountain in the next few years. A lot of building we have to do!
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: Chairman of the Board on March 10, 2026, 11:48:30 am
true.  but that's how i feel about hof!
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: ecasadoSBU on March 10, 2026, 10:23:27 am
i dont hate you... but that's pushing it.

i did catch a few minutes of monmouth last night, i have to say i'm pulling for them.  that means im guessing our season is over.

I do think they are the best representative left for the CAA. So at this point Hofstra winning would be the best outcome for the league.

To be fair they played really well in the OOC so I gotta give it to them. Their NET stands at 88 which is the highest of the league. Putting our rivalries aside for a bit!

also - I just can't root for Monmouth dude. lol



Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: Chairman of the Board on March 10, 2026, 09:47:36 am
i dont hate you... but that's pushing it.

i did catch a few minutes of monmouth last night, i have to say i'm pulling for them.  that means im guessing our season is over.
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: ecasadoSBU on March 09, 2026, 10:21:39 pm
Great game so far between Hofstra - Towson. All tied at 44-44 with 8:52 to go.

Don't hate me for it. But at this point I'm rooting for Hofstra to take the whole thing!
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: Checkmate on March 06, 2026, 02:25:38 pm
In case anybody missed it, Pratt was named All-CAA First Team – a first for us – and Shoshkikj earned All-Rookie honors.

https://caasports.com/news/2026/3/5/mens-basketball-awards.aspx

I'll always wonder whether a monster game in a win at Hofstra would have given Pratt the nod over Davis for POTY.

Worth watching: 10 of the 15 players earning All-CAA accolades have eligibility left. I'll set the over/under for those who transfer out at 6.5.
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: Checkmate on March 04, 2026, 12:18:43 pm
CAA Tournament odds per DraftKings

1. UNC Wilmington (+260)
2. Charleston (+500)
3. Hofstra (+195)
4. Monmouth (+950)
5. Drexel (+2000)
6. William & Mary (+900)
7. Towson (+1500)
8. Stony Brook (+3500)
9. Campbell (+2500)
10. Hampton (+10000)
11. Elon (+8000)
12. North Carolina A&T (+13000)
13. Northeastern (+30000)

Per FanDuel:
UNC Wilmington +175
Hofstra +220
Charleston +700
Monmouth +1000
William & Mary +1100
Towson +1600
Drexel +2700
Campbell +3000
Stony Brook +4000
Elon +6500
Hampton +10000
North Carolina A&T +12500
Northeastern +22500

Hofstra odds 20 times better than ours

We ought to be a small dog on Saturday. Let's hope we bring our A game.
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: Chairman of the Board on February 28, 2026, 04:11:00 pm
W&M beats NCAT, so no help there.

and towson beats campbell. 
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: ecasadoSBU on February 28, 2026, 01:27:07 pm
Check out the Sun Belt Conference’s tournament. I’d say this definitely emphasizes the regular season 🤣. https://x.com/thefieldof68/status/2027622899192877480?s=46&t=_0k7SEdo93-_6CvjA-r49w

WOW. They really want to send their best to the NCAAs. LOL
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: OldSeawolf on February 28, 2026, 10:09:16 am
Check out the Sun Belt Conference’s tournament. I’d say this definitely emphasizes the regular season 🤣. https://x.com/thefieldof68/status/2027622899192877480?s=46&t=_0k7SEdo93-_6CvjA-r49w

That's absolutely wild.  Certainly more equitable, but NE/A&T would potentially have to play 7 games in 7 days :)  Also, Top 4 seeds sitting around for a week. Would have to end regular season a week earlier.  Certainly there are Pros/Cons to doing it this way. 

I'd prefer CAA remain as is, but play the games at higher seeds' home court......at least until the semis.  Playing the entire tournament in DC is flawed, especially since attendance is poor.
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: Checkmate on February 28, 2026, 09:06:43 am
Check out the Sun Belt Conference’s tournament. I’d say this definitely emphasizes the regular season 🤣. https://x.com/thefieldof68/status/2027622899192877480?s=46&t=_0k7SEdo93-_6CvjA-r49w
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: Checkmate on February 25, 2026, 09:44:46 am
What a great list, Checkmate!   Glad to see that you're still active.

Not sure if you're strictly college -> college, but Amari Williams (Drexel) from 2023-24, is playing for Boston Celtics.

Yep, pretty neat to see him out there, albeit only occasionally. Jahmyl Telfort from Northeastern had a cup of coffee with the Clippers too.

I added a few guys I forgot about – Kam Woods, 24, with his sixth collegiate team. Duncan Powell, best known for his hard foul in the St. John's game.
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: OldSeawolf on February 25, 2026, 08:58:26 am
What a great list, Checkmate!   Glad to see that you're still active.

Not sure if you're strictly college -> college, but Amari Williams (Drexel) from 2023-24, is playing for Boston Celtics.
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: Checkmate on February 24, 2026, 06:03:09 pm
checkie, you thought you were out*.  and youre right back in!

*godfather 3 reference

Ha ha, always in, just a little less verbose. Check out @CAApicks on X – been a good year so far

I think it's cool to see guys we saw in our gym competing for and against power conference teams all over the country, with varying degrees of success.
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: Chairman of the Board on February 24, 2026, 05:18:06 pm
checkie, you thought you were out*.  and youre right back in!

*godfather 3 reference
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: Checkmate on February 24, 2026, 04:28:12 pm
Conference tournaments are around the corner, and I thought it would be nice to see who from our league is doing what and where. I might be missing a few from past years.

Player Name  Last CAA YrPrevious Team  Current TeamStats/Comments
Jean Aranguren2024-25HofstraGeorge Washington7.7 ppg. Has come on of late, playing 20+ mpg in nine of last 11.
Abdi Bashir2024-25MonmouthKansas State13.2 ppg, 44.4% from three; out more than a month with stress fracture in foot
George Beale Jr.2024-25HamptonUCFOnly 8 minutes a night after averaging 13 ppg for Pirates
Yame Butler2024-25DrexelButlerDragons’ engine to rotational guy for middling Bulldogs
Noah Collier2024-25William & MaryLa SalleOut since November with apparent Achilles tear
Anthony Dell’Orso2023-24CampbellArizona9 ppg off the bench for title-contending ’Cats
Jerry Deng2023-24HamptonFlorida State –> NC StateRedshirting due to off-the-court medical “stuff”; bench piece before that
Lazar Djokovic2024-25College of Charleston VCUAveraging 14 and 6 for fringy tourney team; team-high 27 mpg
Nick Dorn2024-25ElonIndianaSharpshooter averaging 8.5 ppg; starter as of mid-January
Nolan Dorsey2024-25CampbellCaliforniaSpare part for tournament at-large hopeful; last year’s CAA DPOY
Jason Drake2024-25DrexelIndianaOut for season following toe surgery
Colby Duggan2024-25CampbellCollege of Charleston9 ppg after averaging 20 a night in conference for Campbell; First Team All-CAA last year
Madison Durr2024-25MonmouthUNC WilmingtonKey reserve for 24-4 Seahawks, ranking fourth in pts (10.2); total FT merchant
Jared Frey2024-25Stony BrookUMass LowellHas fallen out of favor after early production; just 7 mpg in conference; 4.1 ppg overall
Landon Glasper2024-25North Carolina A&TSouthern MissNo longer on the roster; under investigation for sports betting
Richard Goods2024-25HamptonStony BrookLet’s freaking go. He’s been great.
Cole Hargrove2024-25DrexelProvidenceAveraging 2 and 3 as a reserve big
Rashad King2024-25NortheasternLSUAveraging 5.7 ppg; playing real good minutes lately, including 39 in win over South Carolina
Jahnathan Lamothe2024-25North Carolina A&TUNC WilmingtonEmerging bench presence after early injury; season-high 17 on Saturday
CJ Luster2024-25Stony BrookUNC WilmingtonOut for the season. Rooting for him.
Kobe MaGee2024-25DrexelFlorida StateRotational wing averaging 8.5 ppg; third team All-CAA last year
Amar'e Marshall2022-23HofstraAlbany –> St. Bonaventure5 points and 2 boards for the Bonnies after big numbers at UA
Christian May2024-25TowsonUNC Wilmington10.4 ppg, 5.3 rpg for conference leaders
Isaiah Mbeng2024-25William & MaryEast Carolina5 ppg on just 33% shooting
Max Mckinnon2023-24ElonPortland –> LSUSecond leading scorer for the Tigers (14.8 ppg); averaged about the same at Portland
Collin Metcalf2024-25NortheasternMarylandDeep reserve for floundering Terps
Justin Moore2023-24DrexelLoyola ChicagoTeam-high 11 ppg, 3.8 apg for 6-22 Greyhounds
Kyrese Mullen2024-25HamptonNew Mexico State4 and 4 a night for Aggies; scoreless in four of last 5 games
Jeremiah Nyarko2024-25Stony BrookSacramento StateNo appearances since December
Duncan Powell2022-23North Carolina A&TSacramento State –> Georgia Tech –> Providence5 ppg, 3 rpg in 18 mpg. Had the hard foul that led to the St. John's melee
LA Pratt2023-24ElonNortheasternSuffered a broken foot after three games; dropped 26 in season opener
Kobe Rodgers2023-24CharlestonLouisvilleNice rotation piece for Kelsey; defense-first guard
James Scott2023-24College of CharlestonLouisville –> Ole MissStarter and key role player for Rebels; 4 ppg, 4.5 rpg, more than a block a game
TJ Simpkins2024-25ElonSeton HallTop scorer off the bench at 10.5 a night; .389 3-pt FG%
TK Simpkins2024-25ElonOregonStarted all 26 games for Ducks, averaging 12 a night; leads team in threes and steals
AJ Smith2024-25College of Charleston Temple8 ppg; out since December with shoulder injury
Deywilk Tavarez2024-25College of CharlestonLoyola ChicagoFifth-leading scorer for A-10 cellar dwellers
Masai Troutman2024-25NortheasternGeorge MasonMainly a bench piece for 21-6 Patriots; 8.4 ppg
Jared Turner2024-25NortheasternOld Dominion6.0 ppg on 38% 3-pt shooting; 127 three attempts; 22 twos
Jaret Valencia2024-25MonmouthWichita StateSolid reserve big until Achilles tear in practice last month
Matthew van Komen2024-25Elon Marshall 7.8 ppg, team-high 7.6 rpg; 5th nationally in blocks (2.6)
Nick Woodard2024-25Stony BrookAlcorn StateFourth leading scorer (8.7 ppg); second leading rebounder (4.3 rpg)
Kam Woods2022-23North Carolina A&TNC State –> Robert Morris –> USCMidseason transfer. 8 ppg, 4.5 rpg. Had 33 at Iowa
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: ecasadoSBU on February 22, 2026, 04:11:36 pm
10 CAA teams with a higher KenPom than the top AE team (UMBC)

All of us ranked higher than the third best AE team (Lowell).

It doesn’t matter much for the tournament, but man does it feel good to have made that move.

Yeah. This is the kind of year that the GAP between the CAA/AE is huge. On a year like this one I'm very glad we made that move. There were times when I thought we jumped into a sinking but I'm glad the the CAA has recovered as a solid mid-major. Even more glad that we are finally competing in the top tier of the CAA.

I also like that Stony Brook is getting the SNY broadcasting it has been receiving the past few years. The CAA also gets a lot more TV exposure as a whole.

My hope is that we continue to grow in this league until we are consistently at the top tier of the league
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: Moveitfred on February 22, 2026, 10:51:14 am
So much at stake in the conference these last couple of weeks, and it feels like any one of those top teams will be a solid conference rep in the NCAA tournament.

Far be it from me to know how this might work, but it sure seems to me that some type of true mid-major post-season tournament would be both valuable and exciting for the teams that don't make the big one. I know, there is the NIT and those pay-for others, but they just all get so little coverage and feel so minor and still unfair (NIT) for true mid-majors.

The CAA being a perfect illustration this season, one team will play really well or get hot and make the NCAA. Maybe there will be an auto-bid to the NIT if things shake out, but then there will likely be a solid 5 or more quality teams that will have nothing after the conference tournament.
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: Checkmate on February 21, 2026, 11:16:41 pm
10 CAA teams with a higher KenPom than the top AE team (UMBC)

All of us ranked higher than the third best AE team (Lowell).

It doesn’t matter much for the tournament, but man does it feel good to have made that move.
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: Moveitfred on February 19, 2026, 01:29:21 pm
Big slate of CAA games tonight with SBU just watching to see what happens. I guess, more than anything, we're hoping the Seahawks upend the regular Hawks? Wouldn't hurt to see the Pride fall as well.
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: ecasadoSBU on January 28, 2026, 09:58:02 am
Nebraska goes down! Not without controversy - was it a Charge? I think so.

Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: ecasadoSBU on January 27, 2026, 02:45:59 pm
Miami of Ohio and Nebraska are having killer years.

Miami (OH) is now 17-0 and ranked #24 in the AP Poll
Nebraska is now 20-0 and ranked #5 in the AP.

Is Nebraska now a basketball school?
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: ecasadoSBU on January 15, 2026, 11:26:12 am
Ouch! That is a very bad look
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: Accelerator on January 15, 2026, 10:48:15 am
CAMIAN SHELL - North Carolina A&T State University

107. In or about late February 2024, the fixers, including defendants JALEN
SMITH and RODERICK WINKLER, and Antonio Blakeney, recruited for their point-shaving
scheme defendant CAMIAN SHELL, a guard, and Person #l l, known to the grand jury, on the
North Carolina A&T State University Aggies Men's Basketball Team ("North Carolina A&T").
ln FaceTime calls with the fixers, defendant SHELL and Person #l I agreed to underperform in
and influence an upcoming North Carolina A&T game.

I 08. On or about February 29,2024, North Carolina A&T played against the
Towson University Tigers Men's Basketball Team ("Towson") at the Corbett Sports Center in
Greensboro, North Carolina. Towson was favored by approximately 7 points in the first halfat
sportsbooks throughout the United States and elsewhere. Before this game, the fixers, including
defendants MARVES FAIRLEY and SHANE HENNEN, and others acting at their direction,
placed wagers with various sportsbooks totaling at least approximately $458.000 on Towson.
Most of these wagers were placed on Towson to cover the first-half spread, and the remainder

were placed on the Towson money line in the first half. Defendant FAIRLEY, Antonio
Blakeney, and other co-schemers engaged in numerous text message communications
coordinating the wagers on this game.

109. In the hours leading up to the game between North Carolina A&T and
Towson, defendant JALEN SMITH communicated via text and on the telephone with defendant
CAMIAN SHELL about the details of their scheme to fix this game. ln text message
communications, for example, defendant SMITH directed defendant SHELL to ensure that North
Carolina A&T failed to cover the spread and that the score not be close: "10 or more points
bro[,] we should[n']t need sweating sh+t." Defendant SMITH then told defendant SHELL that he
would pay other North Carolina AT&T players if defendant SHELL needed them for the point
shaving scheme during the game: "lf it start looking shaky[,] tell 2 or 3 other [North Carolina
AT&T players] what it is and they paid too." Defendant SHELL answered affirmatively, adding
a "love" emoji to defendant SMITH's text.

I 10. On or about February 29,2024, in the NCAA men's basketball game
between North Carolina A&T and Towson, defendant CAMIAN SHELL and Person #l I
underperformed in and influenced the first half as they had agreed. Towson outscored North
Carolina A&T 42 to 2l in the first half, covering the spread, and the fixers won their bets.
Without the North Carolina A&T players intentionally underperforming in the second half of the
game, North Carolina A&T played substantially better, with Towson outscoring North Carolina
A&T 42 to 37. Towson won the game 84 to 58.

I I l. Shortly after this game, on or about February 29,2024, and continuing
through the next day, defendant JALEN SMITH texted with defendant CAMIAN SHELL about
delivering the bribe payments to defendant SHELL in Greensboro, North Carolina. When

defendant SHELL responded that he might have difficulty meeting defendant SMITH because of
basketball obligations, defendant SMITH suggested making the delivery of the bribe payment to
someone else for defendant SHELL. Defendant SHELL responded, "Hell nah[,] [ain't] nobody
down here I trust, what time it say you gone get here?" After additional text exchanges,
defendant SHELL said, "How much was it suppose to be just in case bruh try to touch our sh*t?"

https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.paed.648420/gov.uscourts.paed.648420.1.0.pdf
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: Checkmate on January 08, 2026, 09:30:29 am
Sadly, it was announced recently that CJ Luster is going to redshirt at UNCW. We won't see him Saturday, at least on the floor. No idea if he's traveling with them.

Big (random) 12:30 tip today with Hofstra visiting Towson. Hofstra 3-0, Towson 0-3. Tigers making 28 percent of their threes. Hofstra 38 percent.
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: ecasadoSBU on December 13, 2025, 07:47:43 pm
Sorry. We went 4-1**
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: ecasadoSBU on December 13, 2025, 07:46:53 pm
Omg. I just checked ESPN app and saw the CAA went 5-0. holy shhhh

Hofstra beats Cuse. Wowww
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: Checkmate on December 13, 2025, 06:27:32 pm
Banner day for the CAA capped by Hofstra taking down Syracuse in Carrier JMA Wireless Dome. Wild ending as Hofstra threw a zone at Cuse in the second half to take a big lead, the Orange charged back to go in front late, a big three from Plotnikov puts Hofstra ahead, Cuse goes 1 for 2 at the line, trouble inbounding for Hofstra (twice!), five second violation, Syracuse gets it back to try to go ahead, Carmelo’s son gets totally hacked on the way to the basket, no call, and Hofstra prevails.

Combine that with our win, UNCW going to 10-1 by beating Valpo, and Elon holding off NIU, and that’s a boost for all of us. Or so I thought. The conference dropped to 14 in KenPom.
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: Checkmate on November 07, 2025, 10:57:19 pm
After a 52-point win over D-III Rivier on Monday, UMass Lowell falls 110-47 to UConn. At one point, it was 44-3.

Jared Frey with a team-high 12 points in 32 minutes of action for the River Hawks.
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: Checkmate on July 25, 2025, 07:48:44 am
I’ve been clamoring for this for the AE and now the CAA for a while. You market this to fans, create some secondary rivalries, and guarantee two early season opponents with a little more stakes to the games too. Let’s find a partner.

https://www.zagsblog.com/2025/07/24/maac-and-american-east-conference-announce-new-basketball-challenge/
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: ecasadoSBU on July 09, 2025, 10:48:11 pm
Hofstra rolled out a rebrand recently… and it looks like they're coming for us. Watch the 6-second mark in their video. Was it necessary?  ::)

https://x.com/hofstrapride/status/1932237918510182709

I like it. i'm glad they are now legit trying to build a geographic rivalry with us. why not?
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: Chairman of the Board on July 09, 2025, 11:29:33 am
odd.  good to be called out as a threat?
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: ibosbu on July 09, 2025, 10:49:22 am
Hofstra rolled out a rebrand recently… and it looks like they're coming for us. Watch the 6-second mark in their video. Was it necessary?  ::)

https://x.com/hofstrapride/status/1932237918510182709
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: Checkmate on May 10, 2025, 09:36:35 pm
Another stop for Nyarko. He's headed to Sacramento State. I'm actually surprised he got a D-I offer, but evidently the SSU GM – Dr. Shaquille O'Neal – sees something in him.
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: sbu1991 on May 02, 2025, 04:11:31 pm
I missed this the other day ... Jared Frey to UMass Lowell. Good landing spot.

Best of luck to him...I wonder if he'll still have the green light from 25 feet and beyond
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: sbu1991 on May 02, 2025, 04:09:46 pm
SBs newest recruit

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eqv3va27L64

Looks pretty good to me. Good numbers, especially from three and the TO/Assist ratio also looks good.

By my account SB needs another forward, unless Geno has faith in Gorman to step in and start
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: Checkmate on April 23, 2025, 02:14:42 pm
I missed this the other day ... Jared Frey to UMass Lowell. Good landing spot.
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: Checkmate on April 03, 2025, 07:19:19 pm
It’s so strange to me to see these in-conference transfers: Duggan from Campbell to Charleston; Lamothe from A&T to UNCW; May from Towson to UNCW. Not surprising if they’re moving to receive a better package – and not surprising that Charleston and UNCW are benefiting – but it’s just strange.
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: Checkmate on March 29, 2025, 04:58:16 pm
Kobe Magee to Florida State, and Abdi Bashir’s headed somewhere good.

https://x.com/tp4pt/status/1906073441230533037?s=46&t=_0k7SEdo93-_6CvjA-r49w
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: Checkmate on March 25, 2025, 02:32:38 pm
Conference's leading scorers. Guys like Newby, Farrakhan, etc., I think are done, but I never can tell with that anymore. Another year for Brzovic?!?

1   Duggan,Colby (Campbell)   18   560   127   34   68   356   19.8
2 Bashir Jr.,Abdi (Monmouth)   18   607   118   71   47   354   19.7

3   King,Rashad (Northeastern)   18   674   117   23   92   349   19.4
4   Luster,CJ (Stony Brook)   18   594   101   61   68   331   18.4
5   Brzovic,Ante (Charleston)   18   568   127   6   64   324   18.0
6   Simpkins,TK (Elon)   15   482   85   36   57   263   17.5
7   Tejada,Tyler (Towson)   18   591   110   36   47   303   16.8
8   Camden,John (Delaware)   18   642   100   45   57   302   16.8
9    Boyd,Derrin (Charleston)   18   606   88   49   52   277   15.4
10   Lamothe,Jahnathan (N.C. A&T)   18   644   86   41   58   271   15.1
11   Tavarez,Deywilk (Charleston)   12   350   60   36   21   177   14.8
12   Durr,Madison (Monmouth)   18   617   73   7   111   264   14.7
13   Dorn,Nick (Elon)   12   390   44   31   56   175   14.6

14   Sherry,Sam (Elon)   18   589   100   17   44   261   14.5
15   Simpkins,TJ (Elon)   15   478   59   13   86   217   14.5
16   Dorsey,Gabe (William & Mary)   18   542   81   61   37   260   14.4
17   Williamson,Dylan (Towson)   18   557   98   50   14   260   14.4

18   Aranguren,Jean (Hofstra)   18   577   89   29   51   258   14.3
19   Davis,Cruz (Hofstra)   18   652   95   34   29   253   14.1
20   Farrakhan,Noah (Hampton)   16   465   84   22   29   219   13.7

21   Butler,Yame (Drexel)   18   564   84   24   50   242   13.4
22   Beale Jr.,George (Hampton)   18   463   93   32   22   240   13.3
23   Chitikoudis,Nikolaos (N.C. A&T)   14   460   83   0   18   184   13.1

24   Newby,Donovan (UNCW)   18   591   69   46   52   236   13.1
25   Reilly,Cavan (Delaware)   15   503   72   25   25   194   12.9


And this doesn't include impact guys like Pasha, Mullen, Djokovic and more.
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: steveoh on March 25, 2025, 12:30:27 pm
Saint Francis University Shifts to NCAA Division III

Two weeks after winning the Northeast Conference championship and one week after playing in the NCAA Tournament, Saint Francis University has officially announced its reclassification from NCAA Division I to Division III, effective from the 2026-2027 academic year.

This transition reflects broader trends in college athletics where financial considerations are prompting institutions to reassess their competitive levels.

The decision has sparked discussions on the evolving landscape of college sports, with Saint Francis potentially setting a precedent for other universities facing similar financial pressures.
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: Chairman of the Board on March 24, 2025, 10:13:07 am
with woodard and nyarko out, size-wise that leaves nahar, and gorman (who i'm not sure either is a paint player).

after that, that leaves our biggest body at peyton frey, 6'6 guard who largely hasnt played for his first two years. 

and that assumes they all return/stay.

we have an offer out to 6'9" malachiah marable. https://www.verbalcommits.com/players/malchiah-marable  Hargrave has done well for us before.  he's got 5 other offers.

shaping up to be a 3pt sprint from november to march, with a rebound deficit in nearly every game.  how'd that turn out for us in the past?


[edited]
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: Checkmate on March 24, 2025, 09:55:03 am
Well, the transfer portal officially opens today. The floodgate opened this morning, with a number of CAA guys joining the party, most notably Pasha (Delaware) who's a stud, Durr from Monmouth and a couple fringe Hofstra players. No Woodard yet on VC but I suspect it's just a clerical thing.

Meanwhile, the tournament marches on with seven SEC teams, four from the Big 12 and Big Ten, and then Duke. A record-low four conferences represented.

Edit: Geez, now King and Woods are both out at Northeastern. Brutal. College basketball is just such a shell of its former self. So disappointing. Not surprising whatsoever but disappointing.
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: ibosbu on March 20, 2025, 09:10:43 pm
Campbell going with Florida assistant coach John Andrzejek for its HC position. Upstate New York guy, recruiting czar and no dummy – graduated Columbia in 2.5 years.

It looks like a very good coaching hire. All I can do is sigh and feel envious.
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: ibosbu on March 20, 2025, 09:05:37 pm
What happened to the HLOH message board, @ecasadoSBU? Where are all the Big East fans hanging out online these days?
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: ibosbu on March 20, 2025, 08:58:02 pm
Arkansas/Kansas such an even match up… 62-61… 7 and half minutes to go. Two HOF coaches. Seems like an Elite Eight game.
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: Checkmate on March 20, 2025, 10:15:49 am
Campbell going with Florida assistant coach John Andrzejek for its HC position. Upstate New York guy, recruiting czar and no dummy – graduated Columbia in 2.5 years.
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: sbupatriots on March 17, 2025, 01:34:29 pm
Didn't result in a much better seed but CAA was ranked 18th this year versus America East was 26th, so CAA is a much deeper conference although we didn't have that real strong representative
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: OldSeawolf on March 17, 2025, 12:19:13 pm
It doesn’t say much about the CAA when the best team is a 14 seed. It’s just like being in the AEC.

Bryant is a 15.
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: OldSeawolf on March 17, 2025, 12:18:36 pm
Not CAA, but worth mentioning:

Iona canned Tobin Anderson today after two years.

We can't afford him, but I'd grab him in a heartbeat.
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: steveoh on March 17, 2025, 11:57:19 am
Not CAA, but worth mentioning:

Iona canned Tobin Anderson today after two years.



Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: Checkmate on March 17, 2025, 11:11:33 am
Another interesting caveat is that, other than UNCW, only Elon is still playing. They're in the CBI with some miscellaneous teams, presumably without both Simpkinses, who entered the portal already. So the other 12 teams – and many players from those 12 teams – are in full portal mode.

On the women's side, W&M wins four games in four days and is dancing as a 16 seed at 15-18. From the AE, Vermont's a 15.

Sigh.
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: ry1nik on March 16, 2025, 07:28:52 pm
It doesn’t say much about the CAA when the best team is a 14 seed. It’s just like being in the AEC.
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: Checkmate on March 16, 2025, 07:12:03 pm
At first I thought UNCW, a 27-win champ of the CAA, got snubbed as only a 14 seed but … that’s about right. They didn’t really beat anybody all year. I suspect they’ll go down quietly.

Meanwhile Bryant’s path includes a conference title game on their home floor and they’re only one back of us as a 15 (sigh)
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: Checkmate on March 11, 2025, 09:26:59 pm
Hats off to UNCW and to Delaware. Fun title game. I suspect it’s a first round exit for the Seahawks but we’ll see.

First pretty big name to hit the portal: Yame Butler. 14 and 5 for Drexel. I thought he was done but I guess he has a year left. Edit: And right after him goes Kobe MaGee. Dragons slayed.
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: Accelerator on March 11, 2025, 12:51:53 pm
"- Delaware's winnable. The victor gets Campbell, who is reeling as losers of four straight and five of six. And then a shaky 4 in William & Mary, which went 5-12 away from home and is very three dependent. They've lost three straight too. It's probably a pipe dream, but if you wanted to make a run, getting into the 12/13 game gives us the best shot."

Checkmate said this before the tournament. He was right! Just not about us being the ones who did it.
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: Checkmate on March 11, 2025, 09:42:44 am
If asked, Geno will probably point out how they lost to a team that made it to the conference finals, but the better answer is that this season was wide open, and there for anyone’s taking, including SB. Further evidence of a wasted season .

I thought this exact thing. Had a bunch of injuries, ran into a buzzsaw in Delaware, played them closer than anybody, were tied with four minutes to go, etc etc. – all accurate but let's zoom out a little bit. Fewest wins in almost two decades.
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: Accelerator on March 10, 2025, 09:21:12 pm
Delaware went 1-11 to end the regular season. Now they start trying?

Don't want what they're doing to overshadow what we did last year.
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: sbu1991 on March 10, 2025, 09:05:35 pm
If asked, Geno will probably point out how they lost to a team that made it to the conference finals, but the better answer is that this season was wide open, and there for anyone’s taking, including SB. Further evidence of a wasted season .
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: Checkmate on March 10, 2025, 08:28:16 pm
Freaking Delaware. A win away from dancing. A close one with us and three double digit wins since.
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: ecasadoSBU on March 09, 2025, 08:15:57 pm
Predictable amount of fan disappointment around Rutgers these days on various platforms. Themes like "How can we be so bad with two lottery picks?" and "Fire Pikiell" are pretty regular blasts.

Tough gig that college coaching, but at least it pays well.

Coach Pikiell is a great dude and a fairly good coach and I will always have respect for him. But it felt like he always struggled to breakthrough at SBU despite so many opportunities.

The only year we got to the NCAAs was thanks to Warney who took over the game at the end.

It looks like he is facing the same struggles at Rutgers. This won't end well!

Under Coach P, SB had the look of an emerging mid-major that was always well-coached. Yes, he "only" managed to take SB to one NCAA tourney, but there were many other highlights, a win against a top-20 team, wins against big-5 programs, an NIT win. Plus he was engaged with the community and there was always the sense that the team was going in the right direction.

Contrast that with Geno...one bright spot in last year's conference tournament, and I might add that that team underachieved under Geno in the regular season. 

If Coach P gets fired at Rutgers, I would welcome him back to the North Shores of LI in a nanosecond.

Agreed.

I would take him back also. I just don't know if the conditions can be replicated for the same level of success. Its worth mentioning that we had AD J Fiore and Prez SSKenny back then and the athletic department as a whole felt like it was in an upward trajectory.

Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: Accelerator on March 09, 2025, 04:08:10 pm
I can't believe they stuck with the same guy after 199 losses.

Geno has 102 and we're already sick of him.
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: ry1nik on March 09, 2025, 12:23:38 pm
Maybe the Campbell AD didn’t make the boneheaded decision to extend the contract of a mediocre coach so it was easy to cut ties.
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: Checkmate on March 09, 2025, 10:33:58 am
In coaching news, Campbell pink-slipped Kevin McGeehan. The Camels went 15-17, 10-8 in conference play. They got off to a flying start but their demise seemingly coincided with Jasin Sinani breaking his leg.

184-199 over 12 seasons in Buies Creek. One regular season title, no tournaments.

Makes you think.
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: sbupatriots on March 06, 2025, 02:31:50 pm
Rutgers should (and will) keep Pikes as long as he'll stay, what he's done there is nothing short of a miracle. However this year is a massive disappointment for them I'd imagine.
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: OldSeawolf on March 06, 2025, 12:18:50 pm
Pikiell is/was an average (maybe slightly higher) X's and O's guy.  If there is a game on the line in the final seconds, I don't want him as my coach.

That said, what Pikiell adds to program, far outweighs his mediocre ability to coach.  He's an outstanding recruiter, he does a very good job of retaining his players, he's an outstanding ambassador for the University he coaches for, he's a good player's coach, and he's a really good guy as a person.

I'd take him back in a heartbeat over what we have currently, but we can no longer afford him.
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: Checkmate on March 06, 2025, 12:11:56 pm
No way Pikiell gets shown the door after taking the program from total anonymity to relevance, and recruiting Harper and Bailey to campus. They hadn't been to the tournament in 30 years until he showed up, and he's gone twice (really three with COVID), and they actually won a game too. That said, it can be ugly as we know, and he can't have that job in perpetuity. You wonder if he or that program can ever make a real run. The Big Ten is a gauntlet.

At the 2016 AE title game, I remember thinking we got a really favorable whistle. I can't remember the specific plays, and checking out the boxscore, 28-17 on FTAs isn't too bad. But you do wonder what happens to Pikiell if they don't win that game, with the cupboard emptying out. Side note: UVM beat us in bench points 27-0!
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: Chairman of the Board on March 06, 2025, 10:40:47 am
Predictable amount of fan disappointment around Rutgers these days on various platforms. Themes like "How can we be so bad with two lottery picks?" and "Fire Pikiell" are pretty regular blasts.

Tough gig that college coaching, but at least it pays well.

Coach Pikiell is a great dude and a fairly good coach and I will always have respect for him. But it felt like he always struggled to breakthrough at SBU despite so many opportunities.

The only year we got to the NCAAs was thanks to Warney who took over the game at the end.

It looks like he is facing the same struggles at Rutgers. This won't end well!

true but i also want to credit puriefoy, mcgrew, brenton, dougher, jackson, coley, they were all good players.  im sure im missing some. 
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: sbu1991 on March 05, 2025, 06:28:20 pm
Predictable amount of fan disappointment around Rutgers these days on various platforms. Themes like "How can we be so bad with two lottery picks?" and "Fire Pikiell" are pretty regular blasts.

Tough gig that college coaching, but at least it pays well.

Coach Pikiell is a great dude and a fairly good coach and I will always have respect for him. But it felt like he always struggled to breakthrough at SBU despite so many opportunities.

The only year we got to the NCAAs was thanks to Warney who took over the game at the end.

It looks like he is facing the same struggles at Rutgers. This won't end well!

Under Coach P, SB had the look of an emerging mid-major that was always well-coached. Yes, he "only" managed to take SB to one NCAA tourney, but there were many other highlights, a win against a top-20 team, wins against big-5 programs, an NIT win. Plus he was engaged with the community and there was always the sense that the team was going in the right direction.

Contrast that with Geno...one bright spot in last year's conference tournament, and I might add that that team underachieved under Geno in the regular season. 

If Coach P gets fired at Rutgers, I would welcome him back to the North Shores of LI in a nanosecond.
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: ecasadoSBU on March 05, 2025, 04:12:17 pm
Predictable amount of fan disappointment around Rutgers these days on various platforms. Themes like "How can we be so bad with two lottery picks?" and "Fire Pikiell" are pretty regular blasts.

Tough gig that college coaching, but at least it pays well.

Coach Pikiell is a great dude and a fairly good coach and I will always have respect for him. But it felt like he always struggled to breakthrough at SBU despite so many opportunities.

The only year we got to the NCAAs was thanks to Warney who took over the game at the end.

It looks like he is facing the same struggles at Rutgers. This won't end well!

Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: Accelerator on March 05, 2025, 12:39:12 pm
They can fire Pikiell and have him come back here. Please?
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: Moveitfred on March 05, 2025, 08:02:03 am
Predictable amount of fan disappointment around Rutgers these days on various platforms. Themes like "How can we be so bad with two lottery picks?" and "Fire Pikiell" are pretty regular blasts.

Tough gig that college coaching, but at least it pays well.
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: Checkmate on February 25, 2025, 12:55:45 pm
BTW, Tanahj Pettway averaging 18 a night for Prairie View A&M. It's a bad (bad) D-I but good for him.

Imagine this on every bucket though?? Electric!

https://x.com/MVSUMBB/status/1894248932571816303
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: Checkmate on February 17, 2025, 09:53:39 am
News that may only interest me: Abdi Bashir's twin brother, Abdul, committed to Auburn out of Casper CC. And Monmouth played at Auburn earlier this year, with Abdi going for 15 pts that night. It would be some leap to go from Monmouth to the number one team in the country, but not unfathomable given what we've seen from him in doses.

Another thing I noticed was that Kaiden Space has Triton College, a juco, at 21-3, averaging 9, 3 and 3. I always like to see when our deep bench/redshirt types go where they can get time and enjoy the game. I'm not sure what happened to Muratori. He's on the Indiana Wesleyan roster but hasn't played.
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: Checkmate on February 09, 2025, 04:35:53 pm
Crazy. I know this is A&T and not Duke but still … midseason, Landon Glasper enters the transfer portal. I believe he and Forrest were suspended for this past Thursday’s game, and they still gave Charleston everything they could handle with just six guys. And now Glasper’s out for good.

Campbell by a lot tomorrow.
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: Checkmate on February 01, 2025, 04:13:23 pm
We were pretty down after getting annihilated by Campbell, but all they’ve done since then is mount a massive comeback at Hofstra, destroy William & Mary, and then embarrass Hofstra yet again. I turned it on and it was 59-27.

Four 20 point wins in the last two weeks. Good team.
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: OldSeawolf on January 29, 2025, 03:43:05 pm
It's really cool to see the praise that Amari Williams is getting at Kentucky. I mean, you go from Drexel to this monster program, and he is an absolute anchor for them, including playing point last night at Tennessee as they didn't have a true PG due to injury:

https://www.on3.com/teams/kentucky-wildcats/news/mark-pope-calls-amari-williams-one-of-one-center-country-im-asking-him-to-do-an-impossible-job-right-now/

His coach after the UT win: “Amari Williams is like a one-of-one. I’m asking him to do an impossible job right now. Come into this gym, sold out. What are they ranked? Five? Something, I don’t know. Top 10 team. The number one defense in the country. No point guard to be found on our roster. And I’m like Amari it’s up to you… Amari brought the ball up against the press probably more than anyone else on our team.”

I was trying to think of NBA players who have played in our arena over time: Andrew Bogut (Utah), JJ Barea (Northeastern), Dante Cunningham (Villanova), Alex Caruso (Princeton), Anthony Lamb (Vermont) ... Jameel Warney! Mo Gueye! I'm probably missing people. Anyway, I don't know that Williams is a regular in the NBA but maybe he can get a cup of coffee and join this list.

The guy is a total stud.  No way we would have beaten Drexel in the playoffs, if he had been at full strength.
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: Checkmate on January 29, 2025, 02:38:15 pm
It's really cool to see the praise that Amari Williams is getting at Kentucky. I mean, you go from Drexel to this monster program, and he is an absolute anchor for them, including playing point last night at Tennessee as they didn't have a true PG due to injury:

https://www.on3.com/teams/kentucky-wildcats/news/mark-pope-calls-amari-williams-one-of-one-center-country-im-asking-him-to-do-an-impossible-job-right-now/

His coach after the UT win: “Amari Williams is like a one-of-one. I’m asking him to do an impossible job right now. Come into this gym, sold out. What are they ranked? Five? Something, I don’t know. Top 10 team. The number one defense in the country. No point guard to be found on our roster. And I’m like Amari it’s up to you… Amari brought the ball up against the press probably more than anyone else on our team.”

I was trying to think of NBA players who have played in our arena over time: Andrew Bogut (Utah), JJ Barea (Northeastern), Dante Cunningham (Villanova), Alex Caruso (Princeton), Anthony Lamb (Vermont) ... Jameel Warney! Mo Gueye! I'm probably missing people. Anyway, I don't know that Williams is a regular in the NBA but maybe he can get a cup of coffee and join this list.
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: guest441 on January 23, 2025, 09:51:57 pm
Wow Fitz hasn't made a basket since November.

But he's getting paid money to ride that bench. Good for him.
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: Chairman of the Board on January 23, 2025, 09:32:04 am
i watched the game last night, didnt see too many minutes but good to see him out there.
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: sbupatriots on January 23, 2025, 08:32:06 am
Wow Fitz hasn't made a basket since November.
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: OldSeawolf on January 22, 2025, 04:04:50 pm
In case you missed it, a slight uptick in action for Fitzmorris out at Northwestern. He played a total of 38 minutes in a loss to Michigan State and an OT win over Maryland before logging just eight minutes (and four fouls) in Sunday's loss to Michigan. Good kid. I'm glad to see him pitching in over there.

Last year, Louisville was 8-24. This year, under Kelsey, they're 15-5. Yesterday, Reyne Smith went 10 for 17 from three en route to a 30-point night. James Scott, another C of C transfer, had 16. They've won nine in a row, including seven by double digits. That place has to be going absolutely bananas over this 180 they've done. It's almost as if a coach can change an entire culture and outlook.

Good for Fitz, so his NIL$/min is going down finally.  So what are you saying, Coaching matters????  Hmmm, what a concept...........
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: Checkmate on January 22, 2025, 02:35:07 pm
In case you missed it, a slight uptick in action for Fitzmorris out at Northwestern. He played a total of 38 minutes in a loss to Michigan State and an OT win over Maryland before logging just eight minutes (and four fouls) in Sunday's loss to Michigan. Good kid. I'm glad to see him pitching in over there.

Last year, Louisville was 8-24. This year, under Kelsey, they're 15-5. Yesterday, Reyne Smith went 10 for 17 from three en route to a 30-point night. James Scott, another C of C transfer, had 16. They've won nine in a row, including seven by double digits. That place has to be going absolutely bananas over this 180 they've done. It's almost as if a coach can change an entire culture and outlook.
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: Checkmate on December 21, 2024, 04:29:35 pm
I saw that Vermont lost by 30 at Dartmouth, dropping them to 6-8 on the year, with losses to Merrimack, Iona, Fairfield, Brown, Yale, Colgate and now Dartmouth. KenPom is now 237, sixth best in the AE. Very strange to see.
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: Accelerator on November 30, 2024, 02:53:42 pm
0-8 Monmouth beats Seton Hall on the road, convincingly
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: Checkmate on November 22, 2024, 10:14:43 pm
Break up the Phoenix. Elon wins in South Bend. And a good one for Drexel too, winning at Fordham. A couple ugly results for the CAA today but teams picked to finish 12th and 11th respectively turn some heads.
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: Chairman of the Board on November 15, 2024, 10:16:35 pm
i skipped around but the big finish is at 3:00:30.  thanks!
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: Checkmate on November 15, 2024, 09:49:56 pm
Insane insane finish in Charleston. Cougars stay undefeated in wild fashion. I let out a few "wooooowwwwwws," startling the missus, and now she's upset.

Have to start at about the four-minute mark if you wanted to watch it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ci4ZmD91cv4

Goodman said "it's been a long time since I've seen a game that good."

"College basketball at its best."
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: sbupatriots on November 14, 2024, 08:18:16 am
Great day for the conference. First Northeastern steamrolled Harvard (albeit in a down year for them), and now Hofstra stuns Seton Hall 49-48. We’ll take all of these nice non-con wins.

Shame on Hofstra for only getting "1400" to that game. Also one of the worst broadcasts I've heard in a while. Couldn't have been more than 300 people in the stands.
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: Checkmate on November 13, 2024, 10:43:57 pm
Great day for the conference. First Northeastern steamrolled Harvard (albeit in a down year for them), and now Hofstra stuns Seton Hall 49-48. We’ll take all of these nice non-con wins.
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: sbufan on November 10, 2024, 02:27:19 pm
It's always interesting to see how CAA transfers do when they set off for allegedly greener pastures. I feel like they usually are TBH.

Amari Williams (Drexel –> Kentucky) started for UK in their season-opening romp of Wright State, tallying 12 points and 13 rebounds. It's amazing Drexel held on to him that long.
Trazarien White (UNCW –> TCU) started but got two fouls early and then a third early in the second half, so his line was just 2, 2 and 2 in 14 minutes.
Jyare Davis (Delaware –> Syracuse) came off the bench to put up a team-high 22 points and 12 rebounds as the Orange survived in their debut against Le Moyne. Quote from the coach: "Without Jyare Davis, we don't win this game." Pretty cool start for him.
• In the same game, Jaquan Carlos (Hofstra –> Syracuse) started and filled the box score as usual: four points, four rebounds and six assists in 36 minutes.
Anthony Dell'Orso (Campbell –> Arizona) had seven points off the bench. 1 for 9 shooting though.
Max Mackinnon (Elon –> Portland) having 20 and 6 against a D-II team doesn't really count, but nevertheless, a good night for him.
• A concerning post about Darlinstone Dubar (Hofstra –> Tennessee). https://x.com/wesrucker247/status/1853630426230956044
Justin Moore (Drexel –> Loyola Chicago) had 14 points and seven assists in his debut for Loyola, which narrowly escaped against Chicago State. The A-10's a good spot for him.
• Also in the A-10, Trey Moss (W&M –> GW) had 17 points and four rebounds in a 17-point rout of new D-I Mercyhurst.
• In the same game, Gerald Drumgoole (Pittsburgh –> Albany –> Delaware –> GW) had 10 points and four boards.
Nikita Konstantynovskyi (Monmouth –> Notre Dame) had four points and six rebounds off the bench, which pounded Stonehill.
Jordan Nesbitt (Hampton –> Wyoming) had 11 points and 16 rebounds in a reserve role.
Jerry Deng (Hampton –> Florida State) had nine points – all from threes – as the Noles easily handled Northern Kentucky.
Ja'Von Benson (Hampton –> Ole Miss) didn't do much, but can we acknowledge that a big from Hampton is now in the SEC?
• In Kelsey's debut at Louisville, Reyne Smith (C of C –> Louisville) came off the bench and had 12 points in a 48-point thrashing of Morehead State. Kobe Rodgers is on the roster there too.
Ben Burnham (C of C –> Virginia Tech) was one of the first guys off the bench, playing 17 minutes and contributing minimally for the Hokies.
• Last but not least, Keenan Fitzmorris (Stony Brook –> Northwestern) had two points, one rebound and one block as Northwestern took Lehigh out to the woodshed.

Might have missed some. Look at that lineup of schools though. Unreal, right?

Crazy list. One silver lining of the new normal of the transfer portal is it settles a lot of debates over whether so and so is good enough to play in whatever league.
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: sbufan on November 10, 2024, 02:25:24 pm
Did anyone see what Auburn did to Vermont the other day?
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: Accelerator on November 07, 2024, 03:34:09 pm
I didn't realize just how many all-CAA players left.
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: Checkmate on November 07, 2024, 10:41:35 am
It's always interesting to see how CAA transfers do when they set off for allegedly greener pastures. I feel like they usually are TBH.

Amari Williams (Drexel –> Kentucky) started for UK in their season-opening romp of Wright State, tallying 12 points and 13 rebounds. It's amazing Drexel held on to him that long.
Trazarien White (UNCW –> TCU) started but got two fouls early and then a third early in the second half, so his line was just 2, 2 and 2 in 14 minutes.
Jyare Davis (Delaware –> Syracuse) came off the bench to put up a team-high 22 points and 12 rebounds as the Orange survived in their debut against Le Moyne. Quote from the coach: "Without Jyare Davis, we don't win this game." Pretty cool start for him.
• In the same game, Jaquan Carlos (Hofstra –> Syracuse) started and filled the box score as usual: four points, four rebounds and six assists in 36 minutes.
Anthony Dell'Orso (Campbell –> Arizona) had seven points off the bench. 1 for 9 shooting though.
Max Mackinnon (Elon –> Portland) having 20 and 6 against a D-II team doesn't really count, but nevertheless, a good night for him.
• A concerning post about Darlinstone Dubar (Hofstra –> Tennessee). https://x.com/wesrucker247/status/1853630426230956044
Justin Moore (Drexel –> Loyola Chicago) had 14 points and seven assists in his debut for Loyola, which narrowly escaped against Chicago State. The A-10's a good spot for him.
• Also in the A-10, Trey Moss (W&M –> GW) had 17 points and four rebounds in a 17-point rout of new D-I Mercyhurst.
• In the same game, Gerald Drumgoole (Pittsburgh –> Albany –> Delaware –> GW) had 10 points and four boards.
Nikita Konstantynovskyi (Monmouth –> Notre Dame) had four points and six rebounds off the bench, which pounded Stonehill.
Jordan Nesbitt (Hampton –> Wyoming) had 11 points and 16 rebounds in a reserve role.
Jerry Deng (Hampton –> Florida State) had nine points – all from threes – as the Noles easily handled Northern Kentucky.
Ja'Von Benson (Hampton –> Ole Miss) didn't do much, but can we acknowledge that a big from Hampton is now in the SEC?
• In Kelsey's debut at Louisville, Reyne Smith (C of C –> Louisville) came off the bench and had 12 points in a 48-point thrashing of Morehead State. Kobe Rodgers is on the roster there too.
Ben Burnham (C of C –> Virginia Tech) was one of the first guys off the bench, playing 17 minutes and contributing minimally for the Hokies.
• Last but not least, Keenan Fitzmorris (Stony Brook –> Northwestern) had two points, one rebound and one block as Northwestern took Lehigh out to the woodshed.

Might have missed some. Look at that lineup of schools though. Unreal, right?
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: Checkmate on November 04, 2024, 05:53:02 pm
At the half …

Hofstra 34
Old Westbury 34
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: Checkmate on November 04, 2024, 03:40:54 pm
Good start for Charleston in the season's very first DI vs. DI game. I was a little surprised that the pace resembled the pace of the Kelsey teams, even if the three-point volume didn't. Nice 10-point win over a workmanlike SIU team, especially without Derrin Boyd, arguably the highest impact transfer in the CAA, who's recovering from a torn ACL.

Some interesting names popped up on the local scene. Payton Shumpert found his way to Molloy, and TPP is over at Adelphi. I'm happy for him – two seasons in double figures at the D-II and NAIA level, and now he's 15 minutes from home playing in front of family and friends. I always thought he could have served a role here. Elsewhere, I was surprised to see Juwan White is still playing. He's at NAIA Mid-America Christian. Pettway's still going too. He and Prairie View A&M debut tonight against the College of Biblical Studies.

CAA opponents tonight range from Cheyney, Dickinson and Pfeiffer to Marquette, North Carolina and Michigan State. At least our sub D-I opponent is disguised as a D-I.
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: guest441 on July 11, 2024, 09:14:56 pm
Your right it is supply/demand. the other problem sb has is there nil is not doing good. the most they can pay a player is about $35000 or $45000 and some of the other caa teams can pay over $100000. they shouldnt have anything to do with lacrosse paying players because you dont make money in lacrosse for going to the tournament. the people running the sports dept at sb cant figure out how to do what other schools in the conference are doing better then them. i heard Moore got about $40000. that should tell you how its going to go from now on.

I see what you're seeing and feel the exact opposite way. I'm shocked that we can offer $35k-$45k. Sure we're not leading the CAA in budget and NIL, but I bet we're in the top third. And we're a university that's only 60 years old with 20 years of D1. We're doing really well!

Note that long time SUNY rival Albany is only just launching their first NIL (or first non lax specific NIL) https://www.timesunion.com/sports/article/danes-greatness-nil-collective-support-ualbany-19439210.php

That was for one player the kid Moore. Thats it it's not per player. thats the most they could get to keep one kid. the top kids will leave for nil money if they can.

I completely agree that the top kids will leave for more NIL money if they can. Look across the CAA, all the top players bolted for more NIL money. I heard, unverified, that Fitzmorris was getting offers for $200,000+!!!

My hope is that the team has enough NIL support to be competitive in the CAA. And outside of Charleston, I think that's the case.

Charleston could leave the CAA after this year remember this post.
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: sbufan on July 11, 2024, 10:07:01 am
Your right it is supply/demand. the other problem sb has is there nil is not doing good. the most they can pay a player is about $35000 or $45000 and some of the other caa teams can pay over $100000. they shouldnt have anything to do with lacrosse paying players because you dont make money in lacrosse for going to the tournament. the people running the sports dept at sb cant figure out how to do what other schools in the conference are doing better then them. i heard Moore got about $40000. that should tell you how its going to go from now on.

I see what you're seeing and feel the exact opposite way. I'm shocked that we can offer $35k-$45k. Sure we're not leading the CAA in budget and NIL, but I bet we're in the top third. And we're a university that's only 60 years old with 20 years of D1. We're doing really well!

Note that long time SUNY rival Albany is only just launching their first NIL (or first non lax specific NIL) https://www.timesunion.com/sports/article/danes-greatness-nil-collective-support-ualbany-19439210.php

That was for one player the kid Moore. Thats it it's not per player. thats the most they could get to keep one kid. the top kids will leave for nil money if they can.

I completely agree that the top kids will leave for more NIL money if they can. Look across the CAA, all the top players bolted for more NIL money. I heard, unverified, that Fitzmorris was getting offers for $200,000+!!!

My hope is that the team has enough NIL support to be competitive in the CAA. And outside of Charleston, I think that's the case.
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: guest441 on July 10, 2024, 08:43:52 pm
Your right it is supply/demand. the other problem sb has is there nil is not doing good. the most they can pay a player is about $35000 or $45000 and some of the other caa teams can pay over $100000. they shouldnt have anything to do with lacrosse paying players because you dont make money in lacrosse for going to the tournament. the people running the sports dept at sb cant figure out how to do what other schools in the conference are doing better then them. i heard Moore got about $40000. that should tell you how its going to go from now on.

I see what you're seeing and feel the exact opposite way. I'm shocked that we can offer $35k-$45k. Sure we're not leading the CAA in budget and NIL, but I bet we're in the top third. And we're a university that's only 60 years old with 20 years of D1. We're doing really well!

Note that long time SUNY rival Albany is only just launching their first NIL (or first non lax specific NIL) https://www.timesunion.com/sports/article/danes-greatness-nil-collective-support-ualbany-19439210.php

That was for one player the kid Moore. Thats it it's not per player. thats the most they could get to keep one kid. the top kids will leave for nil money if they can.
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: Checkmate on May 20, 2024, 03:50:12 pm
Ra'Sean Frederick is headed to D-II West Alabama. Good level for him. Found somewhere to get good minutes.

https://www.instagram.com/p/C7Md0_2OlBW/
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: sbufan on May 14, 2024, 04:30:05 pm
Your right it is supply/demand. the other problem sb has is there nil is not doing good. the most they can pay a player is about $35000 or $45000 and some of the other caa teams can pay over $100000. they shouldnt have anything to do with lacrosse paying players because you dont make money in lacrosse for going to the tournament. the people running the sports dept at sb cant figure out how to do what other schools in the conference are doing better then them. i heard Moore got about $40000. that should tell you how its going to go from now on.

I see what you're seeing and feel the exact opposite way. I'm shocked that we can offer $35k-$45k. Sure we're not leading the CAA in budget and NIL, but I bet we're in the top third. And we're a university that's only 60 years old with 20 years of D1. We're doing really well!

Note that long time SUNY rival Albany is only just launching their first NIL (or first non lax specific NIL) https://www.timesunion.com/sports/article/danes-greatness-nil-collective-support-ualbany-19439210.php
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: ecasadoSBU on May 12, 2024, 12:50:52 pm
Yup add Arizona to the list of Syracuse, Tennessee, Northwestern, Kentucky, and others

The best talent of the CAA will never stay in this conference again going forward

Nah, I respectfully disagree.  It's all Supply/Demand.  Not everyone can play in P5 conferences.  The elite will move up, and others will move down, and there will be a re-balancing.  NIL is just exacerbating the # of movements.

That's the way I see it also.

A lot of shifting up and down but at the end of the day it doesn't make much of a difference. CAA will target those major conference players looking to get more playing time. CAA will lose those exceptional players looking to get the opportunity of playing at the highest level of Division I (majors).

It's the same reality as before NIL/portal. Things just move so much quicker now.

We have to accept the CAA for what it is - a mid-major conference in a highly stratified collegiate athletics landscape. Our conference ceiling is producing at best a 2nd Round NCAA appearance.



My only long term hope is that Stony Brook, as the flagship public University of New York, has the academic and financial muscle to someday get itself into a better conference with a higher ceiling.
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: guest441 on May 08, 2024, 12:12:09 pm
Yup add Arizona to the list of Syracuse, Tennessee, Northwestern, Kentucky, and others

The best talent of the CAA will never stay in this conference again going forward

Nah, I respectfully disagree.  It's all Supply/Demand.  Not everyone can play in P5 conferences.  The elite will move up, and others will move down, and there will be a re-balancing.  NIL is just exacerbating the # of movements.

Your right it is supply/demand. the other problem sb has is there nil is not doing good. the most they can pay a player is about $35000 or $45000 and some of the other caa teams can pay over $100000. they shouldnt have anything to do with lacrosse paying players because you dont make money in lacrosse for going to the tournament. the people running the sports dept at sb cant figure out how to do what other schools in the conference are doing better then them. i heard Moore got about $40000. that should tell you how its going to go from now on.
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: OldSeawolf on May 08, 2024, 09:26:52 am
Yup add Arizona to the list of Syracuse, Tennessee, Northwestern, Kentucky, and others

The best talent of the CAA will never stay in this conference again going forward

Nah, I respectfully disagree.  It's all Supply/Demand.  Not everyone can play in P5 conferences.  The elite will move up, and others will move down, and there will be a re-balancing.  NIL is just exacerbating the # of movements.
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: EastCoastMD on May 08, 2024, 09:17:32 am
Yup add Arizona to the list of Syracuse, Tennessee, Northwestern, Kentucky, and others

The best talent of the CAA will never stay in this conference again going forward
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: Accelerator on May 07, 2024, 09:34:56 pm
DellOrso to Arizona. Holy.
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: Checkmate on May 01, 2024, 12:29:54 pm
It's crazy. At the start of the day, there were 1950 Division I players in the transfer portal, and another 1000 D-IIs. Imagine sorting all that out. It's like applying to a college and both sides having to make their decision in mere days, and then potential fallout from that. Has to be dizzying.

Just saw another old name enter the portal: Moses Flowers from Hartford. I think he did a prep year after high school, and may have reclassified too (I see a Hudl profile that says he was Class of 2017). Anyway, he was a freshman at Hartford in 2019, so he's going to be at least 25 by the time he's done. I tried to google my way to his birth year and ... there's no way he was born in 1997, right? Wild times in college sports. These COVID bonus years need to GO.

Who was that other Hartford player who was in his 7th year (and was 24 or 25) who played us in the AE semis, the year Covid hit?  And this was before the Covid bonus year(s) were awarded.  Something about the longevity of these Hartford players..........


Ha, Traci Carter. He was maybe the first guy whose age I just couldn't believe. Looking it up, he finished up just shy of 26. Really good player though.
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: OldSeawolf on May 01, 2024, 12:20:45 pm
It's crazy. At the start of the day, there were 1950 Division I players in the transfer portal, and another 1000 D-IIs. Imagine sorting all that out. It's like applying to a college and both sides having to make their decision in mere days, and then potential fallout from that. Has to be dizzying.

Just saw another old name enter the portal: Moses Flowers from Hartford. I think he did a prep year after high school, and may have reclassified too (I see a Hudl profile that says he was Class of 2017). Anyway, he was a freshman at Hartford in 2019, so he's going to be at least 25 by the time he's done. I tried to google my way to his birth year and ... there's no way he was born in 1997, right? Wild times in college sports. These COVID bonus years need to GO.

Who was that other Hartford player who was in his 7th year (and was 24 or 25) who played us in the AE semis, the year Covid hit?  And this was before the Covid bonus year(s) were awarded.  Something about the longevity of these Hartford players..........
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: Checkmate on May 01, 2024, 11:54:11 am
It's crazy. At the start of the day, there were 1950 Division I players in the transfer portal, and another 1000 D-IIs. Imagine sorting all that out. It's like applying to a college and both sides having to make their decision in mere days, and then potential fallout from that. Has to be dizzying.

Just saw another old name enter the portal: Moses Flowers from Hartford. I think he did a prep year after high school, and may have reclassified too (I see a Hudl profile that says he was Class of 2017). Anyway, he was a freshman at Hartford in 2019, so he's going to be at least 25 by the time he's done. I tried to google my way to his birth year and ... there's no way he was born in 1997, right? Wild times in college sports. These COVID bonus years need to GO.
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: Checkmate on April 25, 2024, 12:03:06 pm
Speaking of huge losses, Trazarien White to the portal. It seemed like a given but, this late, I began to wonder if he was content there.

Feels like the right move though. He’ll land someplace good.
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: EastCoastMD on April 25, 2024, 11:33:25 am
Found this interesting link I found on the hofstra forum-- ranking net win/loss of the transfer portal players

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Qa3Fd5fpW9_72RGCBQLMmuvQRjXn4eiwAWLYtGQJYKE/edit#gid=1035890748

Even with Fitz leaving, they have us as a net positive through the transfer portal. Interestingly, hofstra is ranked higher despite their huge losses.
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: Moveitfred on April 25, 2024, 10:30:23 am
Yeah, Fitz is gone, ha ha. I wondered for a moment whether he’d return.

https://x.com/portal_updates/status/1783248443521003567?s=46&t=_0k7SEdo93-_6CvjA-r49w

That's quite a collection of choices...along with "others."

I can't help but think in this moment in time the empty center position on the SBU roster must be at least a reasonably attractive landing spot for someone. Coming off a season where essentially two centers played a lot, often together, and now both gone (I assume). Seems to me a starting spot and a whole bunch of minutes is just sitting there for the taking. 
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: Checkmate on April 24, 2024, 10:19:19 pm
Yeah, Fitz is gone, ha ha. I wondered for a moment whether he’d return.

https://x.com/portal_updates/status/1783248443521003567?s=46&t=_0k7SEdo93-_6CvjA-r49w
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: EastCoastMD on April 19, 2024, 09:27:22 am
Amari Williams (Drexel) also getting a look at Kentucky
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: Checkmate on April 18, 2024, 01:11:31 pm
ICYMI, Muratori committed to NAIA Indiana Wesleyan. National quarterfinalist last year.
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: ecasadoSBU on April 16, 2024, 10:38:48 am
Portal life screwing the mid-major programs. No way we can avoid it.

I just hope that the league lands good players from the major programs that are looking for more playing time.
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: Checkmate on April 15, 2024, 09:18:25 pm
Interesting day for the conference. Jyare Davis to Syracuse. D-stone Dubar to Tennessee. Major major programs.
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: ecasadoSBU on April 12, 2024, 02:51:20 am
"A CofC official confirms Chris Mack's contract is for 5 years worth $1.1 million per year

Mack can get a bonus of $150,000 for making the NCAA Tournament."

https://twitter.com/kevinlive5/status/1775244642264477869?s=61&t=6Bx3tD-mSTjm4jbTxJLP_g

Crazy to think Mack had the perfect job at Xavier (his alma mater) and decided to jump to Louisville in hopes of a rebuild.
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: ecasadoSBU on April 12, 2024, 02:47:49 am
congrats ecasado on another huge UConn victory.  there's a team that knows how to pass the ball.  also good execution with two bigs in foul trouble for most of the second half.

Amazing run. Pure dominance. Balanced team with so many different weapons. We were fortunate to catch the 1st/2nd Rd @ Barclays.

I Had plans to watch the Championship Game with the wife at Legends NYC... Instead I was stuck watching while stuck in traffic driving down the Adirondack Northway. 5 hours delay heading down from Plattsburgh, NY. Incredible the amount of people that traveled up to watch the total eclipse. Totally worth it though

Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: Checkmate on April 09, 2024, 11:27:25 am
Oof. Dell'Orso to the portal. A dagger for Campbell.

It'll be cool to see what some of these guys can do at a high major. We saw what Estrada was able to do with his opportunity at Bama; he more than held his own. Smith and Scott are already locked in at Louisville, and a few others ought to end up in high-profile places.
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: Chairman of the Board on April 09, 2024, 09:54:34 am
congrats ecasado on another huge UConn victory.  there's a team that knows how to pass the ball.  also good execution with two bigs in foul trouble for most of the second half.
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: Curious George on April 06, 2024, 02:44:05 pm
Chris Mack is bringing in Matt McCall to Charleston as an assistant coach. McCall previously coached UMass and Chattanooga. Nice get for Mack and his staff.
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: EastCoastMD on April 04, 2024, 02:18:05 pm
The CAA as a conference has the 5th most players in the portal (57 total, 8 committed elsewhere already)
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: sbufan on April 04, 2024, 12:11:34 pm
It's crazy out there. AJ Storr, who we had delusions of getting when he entered the portal last year, is in the portal again and evidently turned down $750,000 from Kansas because he's looking for $1M.

I can't blame anybody for it.

Accounting for Smith's departure and Brzovic's return, we're holding at four for all-conference returnees. I have to think White and Dell'Orso are being courted.

Can't imagine these NIL sums are sustainable long term. My expectations: Rich donors are excited to play GM because now they're allowed to. BUT, most teams are going to underperform - most seasons end in disappointment. And these donors are spending their own money and getting nothing in return, not even a name on a building.
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: Checkmate on April 04, 2024, 10:47:35 am
It's crazy out there. AJ Storr, who we had delusions of getting when he entered the portal last year, is in the portal again and evidently turned down $750,000 from Kansas because he's looking for $1M.

I can't blame anybody for it.

Accounting for Smith's departure and Brzovic's return, we're holding at four for all-conference returnees. I have to think White and Dell'Orso are being courted.
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: drexeldragons10 on April 04, 2024, 09:01:28 am
With Brzovic and now Burnham gone from Charleston, I wonder if they've been told that Kelsey's taking another job (i.e. Louisville). They've won 58 games the last two years, it's an exciting brand of basketball, and he's a great front man for a program. I could see it. Or they're just like everybody else seeing what kind of $$ they can get or how high on the food chain they can climb. I'd say maybe a little better but not much.

Remaining All-CAA members:
Trazarien White, UNCW (1st)
Anthony Dell'Orso, Campbell (2nd)
Reyne Smith, Charleston (2nd)
Landon Glasper, UNC A&T (3rd)

Smith left for Louisville. White likely to leave UNCW as well (though has not entered portal yet). Brzovic announced yesterday he is returning to CofC.
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: Knicksbu99 on April 02, 2024, 06:53:15 pm
This is a move for the A10. They have way deeper pockets than anyone in our league.
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: Accelerator on April 02, 2024, 04:18:38 pm
"A CofC official confirms Chris Mack's contract is for 5 years worth $1.1 million per year

Mack can get a bonus of $150,000 for making the NCAA Tournament."

https://twitter.com/kevinlive5/status/1775244642264477869?s=61&t=6Bx3tD-mSTjm4jbTxJLP_g
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: guest441 on April 01, 2024, 08:59:18 pm
Mack new coach for CoC. 5 year deal. As good as Kelsey was, this is an upgrade. Expect them load up on replacement talent quickly. They don’t mess around.

They have over a million dollars every year in NIL. I dont think sb's nil is even close to $175000.
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: Checkmate on April 01, 2024, 10:11:12 am
That Mack hiring was a stunner. What a good get for them, and somebody who is such a big fish in a smallish pond. I don't know how the contracts work when he's still getting buyout money ($133,000/mo from Louisville), but whatever it is, it's still a place that was paying Kelsey more than $1M a year, and that's just a different tax bracket than us and the rest of these CAA schools.

This feels like an A-10 level hire. We'll see if that comes to be. Charleston had another big year, and the A-10 got an at-large and won two games in the tournament, so the stock for both is high.

Wherever it is, Mack is pretty much starting from scratch, with every notable player having hit the portal, including Smith and Scott, who joined Kelsey at Louisville.
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: EastCoastMD on March 31, 2024, 12:33:38 pm
Agree. They actually upgraded at head coach if that was possible. If they stay in the conference they should be the favorites once again
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: OldSeawolf on March 30, 2024, 10:34:59 pm
Mack new coach for CoC. 5 year deal. As good as Kelsey was, this is an upgrade. Expect them load up on replacement talent quickly. They don’t mess around.
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: Accelerator on March 29, 2024, 09:57:20 pm
the O'Connell kid on NC State is from Mineola! Now he's in the Elite 8.
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: Chairman of the Board on March 28, 2024, 02:03:11 pm
yep- that's what im trying to say.  but this year, they hit them!
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: OldSeawolf on March 28, 2024, 12:43:49 pm
What we had last year was 4 Seniors who were all willing and unafraid to take the big shot when it mattered most: TSM, AC, Noll, and Fitz.  It'll be tough to duplicate that next year, IMO.
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: EastCoastMD on March 28, 2024, 12:39:35 pm
TSM was the only player with any sort of continuity from the prior year. Clarke was hurt, Maidoh was new. Can easily be duplicated with high quality transfers.
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: Chairman of the Board on March 28, 2024, 10:57:00 am
personal opinion- i think what we lose is the intangible "clutch".  focusing on the 4 consecutive game stretch- how often did clark hit a late shot to tie?  TSM?  maidoh comes alive in the paint?

i dont know that we can do that so consistently with a new squad.  there was some luck in there too. GO SB
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: sbufan on March 27, 2024, 08:28:08 pm
Holy cow. The offseason of college basketball might be crazier than the 4 professional sports leagues combined.

Next year is going to be interesting. Perhaps Stony Brook might be at a major advantage for next year --as crazy as that thought would have been a few months ago

Right? I feel like we're in a great place with only Muratori transferring.

This is so far, and not to jinx anything
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: EastCoastMD on March 27, 2024, 05:43:29 pm
Holy cow. The offseason of college basketball might be crazier than the 4 professional sports leagues combined.

Next year is going to be interesting. Perhaps Stony Brook might be at a major advantage for next year --as crazy as that thought would have been a few months ago
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: sbufan on March 27, 2024, 04:20:56 pm
I think Kelsey's a good coach and strong candidate for most coaching jobs, but shocked he landed the Louisville job. That program has really fallen
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: Checkmate on March 27, 2024, 12:52:48 pm
Now … how many Charleston guys end up with Louisville?
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: Accelerator on March 27, 2024, 12:12:51 pm
Kelsey to Louisville. Wow.

https://x.com/goodmanhoops/status/1773018379118346473?s=46&t=7_xD-zNd-dcmap9guZlWEQ
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: Checkmate on March 27, 2024, 11:15:37 am
With Brzovic and now Burnham gone from Charleston, I wonder if they've been told that Kelsey's taking another job (i.e. Louisville). They've won 58 games the last two years, it's an exciting brand of basketball, and he's a great front man for a program. I could see it. Or they're just like everybody else seeing what kind of $$ they can get or how high on the food chain they can climb. I'd say maybe a little better but not much.

Remaining All-CAA members:
Trazarien White, UNCW (1st)
Anthony Dell'Orso, Campbell (2nd)
Reyne Smith, Charleston (2nd)
Landon Glasper, UNC A&T (3rd)

Apparently, Kelsey is in competition with Pitino's Kid (New Mexico) and Holloway (Seton Hall) for the Louisville job.  Also, rumors that Kelsey is being courted by FAU.  His stock has gone way up.

Kelsey infamously spurned the Minutemen years ago, citing "personal reasons." He just signed an extension at Charleston for pretty good money ($1.1M) but if he's to leave a great situation there for Louisville, for three times the salary in a major conference and down the river from where he grew up, I have to think would be attractive to him. The bar is low right now too.

Edit: Pitino’s staying at UNM so maybe Kelsey?
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: OldSeawolf on March 27, 2024, 09:28:57 am
With Brzovic and now Burnham gone from Charleston, I wonder if they've been told that Kelsey's taking another job (i.e. Louisville). They've won 58 games the last two years, it's an exciting brand of basketball, and he's a great front man for a program. I could see it. Or they're just like everybody else seeing what kind of $$ they can get or how high on the food chain they can climb. I'd say maybe a little better but not much.

Remaining All-CAA members:
Trazarien White, UNCW (1st)
Anthony Dell'Orso, Campbell (2nd)
Reyne Smith, Charleston (2nd)
Landon Glasper, UNC A&T (3rd)

Apparently, Kelsey is in competition with Pitino's Kid (New Mexico) and Holloway (Seton Hall) for the Louisville job.  Also, rumors that Kelsey is being courted by FAU.  His stock has gone way up.
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: Checkmate on March 27, 2024, 08:41:26 am
With Brzovic and now Burnham gone from Charleston, I wonder if they've been told that Kelsey's taking another job (i.e. Louisville). They've won 58 games the last two years, it's an exciting brand of basketball, and he's a great front man for a program. I could see it. Or they're just like everybody else seeing what kind of $$ they can get or how high on the food chain they can climb. I'd say maybe a little better but not much.

Remaining All-CAA members:
Trazarien White, UNCW (1st)
Anthony Dell'Orso, Campbell (2nd)
Reyne Smith, Charleston (2nd)
Landon Glasper, UNC A&T (3rd)
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: OldSeawolf on March 25, 2024, 05:45:27 pm
The only saving grace to these transfers is that the weakening of the conference will provide more of a level playing field for SBU, who will be taking a major hit via graduations. That aside, this is a microcosm of the degrading state of college athletics. And I wouldn’t fall for this Saban BS, who is being so “candid” now that he’s out of football. He was a big part of the rich get richer problem in college athletics that flourished under his watch. Some will call it capitalism at work, but I personally think it is destroying college athletics, the NPCAA (National Professional College Athletics Association).
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: Chairman of the Board on March 25, 2024, 04:19:31 pm
not that i trust this guy... but here's what one very successful coach says: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E-Gmjbq7Hzo
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: Checkmate on March 25, 2024, 04:03:11 pm
Brzovic gone now too. Sad state of affairs in college basketball. But I can't really blame anybody who's looking for a new, possibly better opportunity.
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: nyrfan1013 on March 25, 2024, 01:48:22 pm
Now Justin Moore from Drexel has entered the portal as well.
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: nyrfan1013 on March 25, 2024, 01:44:59 pm
Hofstras point guard Jaquan Carlos has entered the portal… they have now lost Dubar and Carlos to the portal. Speedy has a lot of work to do
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: ry1nik on March 23, 2024, 05:26:57 pm
That W&M hire shows the gap between the AE and CAA

No way an AE program can poach an Ivy coach. I know there was a lot of complaining early on, but the CAA is just a much better situation.
Yet, both the CAA and AE are one-bid leagues with a 13 seed. What sounds good doesn’t always work out in reality
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: NJ Seawolf on March 23, 2024, 04:13:08 pm
That W&M hire shows the gap between the AE and CAA

No way an AE program can poach an Ivy coach. I know there was a lot of complaining early on, but the CAA is just a much better situation.
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: Checkmate on March 23, 2024, 01:21:05 pm
Conference tournament and tournament success undoubtedly brings some kind of prestige to the program, but I never really gave much thought to the financial bump from that success, particularly the First Four. Per Pete Thamel, Wagner and Grambling State made $341,802 for their respective leagues by winning their First Four game, and that's over a six-year span, so $2M roughly to each league. I'm not sure how that's distributed, but I have to think the team itself gets a larger piece of the pie.

The CAA hasn't earned a tournament win since JMU in 2013 when they were a 16 seed and beat LIU in the play-in game. Entering the tournament, they were 20-14 in a year when the CAA was ranked 18th among all conferences. This year, I feel like we would've gotten a 15 had we made it, but maybe the First Four? And a few bucks with a win?


Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: EastCoastMD on March 23, 2024, 11:52:47 am
Huge hire for W&M
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: OldSeawolf on March 23, 2024, 08:26:58 am
The lower mid-majors (Vermont and CoC) never had a chance.  You really see the difference in talent level between the Power 5's and the Mid-Majors come Tournament time.
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: Knicksbu99 on March 22, 2024, 11:13:59 pm
Charleston was never going to outrun a team  like Alabama. Somehow dropped almost 100.
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: ibosbu on March 22, 2024, 09:53:27 pm
Yeah. I was hoping for a close game. It’s the opposite. Alabama is too good for Charleston.
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: Chairman of the Board on March 22, 2024, 09:47:43 pm
that's why those teams win.  they share the ball.  fundamentals will never change, and will likely beat greedy ball hogging every time.

vermont hung around a while with duke.  CoC not so great against bama.
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: Checkmate on March 22, 2024, 08:33:44 pm
I tell you … with all of the screening and cutting and driving and kicking and overall ball movement that we see in these tournament games (most, not all), it feels like night and day with what we have witnessed recently. I know, we were one make away (sigh), but the difference in flow and shot quality is stark.
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: sbupatriots on March 20, 2024, 12:59:36 pm
Pitino mentioned making NIL deals 2-3 year commitments and I think that's what ends up saving this mess.
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: OldSeawolf on March 20, 2024, 06:17:25 am
Looking at the teams in the CIT, it would not surprise me if SB was invited but declined.
I'm sure SBU could have played in the CBI or CIT (whatever it's called now), but given that we were banged up, and given that a lot of guys are done (including possibly some bench guys), it probably made no sense to take part.  Perhaps if we had a lot of returnees, it would have made more sense.  I think Pitino and St. John's felt the same way about the NIT.
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: sbu1991 on March 19, 2024, 07:35:23 pm
Looking at the teams in the CIT, it would not surprise me if SB was invited but declined.
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: OldSeawolf on March 19, 2024, 02:07:40 pm
Geez. There goes Jyare Davis. Trey Moss from W&M too.

It's crazy that this is just about the kind of activity we can expect every offseason until further notice. There are still some people using the extra year they picked up from COVID.

It's really crazy, and I personally don't like what the portal, in conjunction with NIL, has created.  If I want professional, I'll watch the NBA.  It's getting a bit ridiculous..........I'm flooded with Verbal Commits in my feed today, and can't keep up with all of this upheaval.
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: Checkmate on March 19, 2024, 02:01:58 pm
Geez. There goes Jyare Davis. Trey Moss from W&M too.

It's crazy that this is just about the kind of activity we can expect every offseason until further notice. There are still some people using the extra year they picked up from COVID.

Seth Towns is in his eighth year of college basketball and will be playing tonight for Howard in their tournament game against Wagner. He made his collegiate debut on November 11, 2016.  :o
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: Knicksbu99 on March 18, 2024, 01:50:28 pm
Charleston will have a great shot to 3 peat almost the entire roster is slated to return. Except Butler and Policelli. Maybe we can peel off Khalil London who will not see many minutes and is a long island kid.
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: Checkmate on March 18, 2024, 12:26:36 pm
Dstone Dubar from Hofstra has entered the portal as a grad transfer. Assume he will get big time high major interest. 6'6" and shot 40% from 3.

Let's see how many all-conference players are still in the league in November. Of the 2022-23 awardees, seven played in the CAA this year, five transferred up, and three graduated. Of this year's group, five are done (Rice, Thomas, TSM, Phillips, Thompson), Williams and Dubar are already in the portal, and three may consider that route too once Alabama's through with them this week. We'll see if Charleston's still with us next year anyway.
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: sbupatriots on March 18, 2024, 12:10:05 pm
Dstone Dubar from Hofstra has entered the portal as a grad transfer. Assume he will get big time high major interest. 6'6" and shot 40% from 3.
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: OldSeawolf on March 17, 2024, 07:03:31 pm
Shocked that St John’s didn’t make it. Kenpom rank of 25.  Poor Quad 1 record and/or anti-Pitino sentiment did them in. Next to SBU, I watched them the most this year.
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: Checkmate on March 17, 2024, 06:51:02 pm
Opponents who made the tournament: Charleston, Duquesne, Nebraska, Yale, Wagner and Michigan State. St. John's missed out, but it's still gotta be a record for us. I'd guess easily.
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: OldSeawolf on February 29, 2024, 12:01:05 pm
An interesting read from Mid-Major Madness. They list five programs who should be strongly considered as additions to the A-10, all speculative as I don't think it was authored by a real insider. Yet there's a lot of sense to it.

Among them:
Charleston
Vermont
UMass Lowell

https://www.midmajormadness.com/2024/2/29/24086292/umass-departure-for-mac-opens-door-for-potential-atlantic-10-realignment

Can definitely see Charleston on the move.  Not Vermont (they seem to love their niche basketball in the cold upper northeast) and UML (too new to D1 and not a lot of notoriety yet).
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: ibosbu on February 29, 2024, 11:44:44 am
A10 should just wait a couple of years before adding more. They will likely lose another team or two to Big East.
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: Checkmate on February 29, 2024, 11:16:24 am
An interesting read from Mid-Major Madness. They list five programs who should be strongly considered as additions to the A-10, all speculative as I don't think it was authored by a real insider. Yet there's a lot of sense to it.

Among them:
Charleston
Vermont
UMass Lowell

https://www.midmajormadness.com/2024/2/29/24086292/umass-departure-for-mac-opens-door-for-potential-atlantic-10-realignment
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: Checkmate on February 28, 2024, 11:08:56 pm
With a week to play, the belief on bracketmatrix.com is that Charleston is looking at a 14 seed if they make it this year. I shudder to think what Drexel, Hofstra or Towson would get, even us. For real, we'd be one of the six 16s, right?

In other news, poor CBSSN has Elon/William & Mary tomorrow night, not Hofstra/UNCW or Stony Brook/Drexel. Not the greatest exhibition of CAA hoops.
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: Checkmate on February 28, 2024, 04:48:04 pm
Man, even the CAA (19) is ranked higher than the MAC (24) in KenPom conferences right now.

UMass basketball enthusiasts are not pleased. In the KenPom ratings, you can list off seven A-10 schools before you reach Akron at #100, and another three A-10s before reaching a second MAC team. Does Frank Martin skip town? Can they recruit at the same level? I dunno. I'm skeptical.

Here's a good rundown of what it all means for the program. All you need to know is that UMass Lowell is in a better basketball conference than UMass. On Saturday, they had their best crowd in years .... YEARS (7,000+) ... and this news broke two days later. Brutal.

https://www.masslive.com/umassfootball/2024/02/umass-move-to-mac-is-brutal-blow-to-its-mens-basketball-program-vautour.html
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: Accelerator on February 28, 2024, 04:36:37 pm
Man, even the CAA (19) is ranked higher than the MAC (24) in KenPom conferences right now.
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: OldSeawolf on February 27, 2024, 12:56:37 pm
We can still get as high as #4 and as low as #9.  If we lose to Drexel and win at home vs. Delaware, and all favorites win the other games these last 2 weeks, we get a #7.  Getting a #6 or #7 would be great (avoiding CoC until the Final), but lots can happen in these last 2 weeks.
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: Knicksbu99 on February 27, 2024, 11:33:35 am
Gonna be fun to see these teams jockey for position down the stretch we can make some moves.
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: Accelerator on February 26, 2024, 03:48:21 pm
A10 to MAC is a basketball downgrade. UMass is really going all in on football?

MAC is at odd number now and if anything, we'd be gunning for a spot there instead of the A10 as a football school.
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: Checkmate on February 26, 2024, 03:37:12 pm
UMass is headed from the A-10 to the MAC for all sports (except hockey I'm guessing/I hope). That drops the A-10 to 14 teams. You wonder if they're content there or if they're still looking at adding a couple. There are a lot of sub-FBS/non-football schools in that conference, and we have a few attractive schools who fit that mold in our conference including, well, us . Yeah, but really, not happening.

https://twitter.com/PeteThamel/status/1762198328673006013
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: sbupatriots on February 17, 2024, 09:37:51 pm
Wow Elon goes into UNCW and beats them on a buzzer beater tip-in. Good chance winner of the league finishes with 5 losses. Conference is probably looking at a 14 seed at best in the tournament.
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: Checkmate on February 16, 2024, 09:52:06 am
While Caitlin Clark went and set the career scoring record, check out how many boards Lauryn Taylor had last night:

https://fmupatriots.com/boxscore.aspx?path=wbball&id=11048
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: OldSeawolf on February 16, 2024, 06:04:50 am
Absolutely bonkers finish to the Monmouth/Campbell game. Rice from 40! Two banked threes in a four-second span.

https://x.com/mid_madness/status/1758324747736113297?s=20

Crazy finish.  Bad news, good news.  Monmouth is going to be flying high against us on Saturday, but we are back ahead of Campbell, and determine our own destiny to break tie with Monmouth.
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: NJ Seawolf on February 15, 2024, 11:56:08 pm
Also no offense but hard for teams to get up for traveling up to Durham/Orono/Lowell which are glorified HS gyms. Attendance isn't ridiculous in the CAA games but the games just have a much more big-game feel to them.
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: Accelerator on February 15, 2024, 11:17:36 pm
Hofstra and Delaware (to Elon!!!) both lost, so we gained the game back to them that we lost at Campbell.

That ending was crazy, Campbell missed 3 FTs in the double bonus to make it happen. They were up 85-80 with 17 seconds left. I would have preferred Campbell win because now we have to deal with Monmouth and we could have used that extra game of protection in the standings.
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: Checkmate on February 15, 2024, 09:58:03 pm
Absolutely bonkers finish to the Monmouth/Campbell game. Rice from 40! Two banked threes in a four-second span.

https://x.com/mid_madness/status/1758324747736113297?s=20
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: Checkmate on February 12, 2024, 08:59:42 pm
Free pancakes at Towson for their 9pm tip with Elon.

https://twitter.com/JakeShindel/status/1757220675079549420
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: Knicksbu99 on February 09, 2024, 12:26:55 pm
I agree checkie every game feels big the conference season feels way more intense and attritional it really is a grind.
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: Checkmate on February 09, 2024, 10:25:16 am
The AE has had a nice year. They haven't been this high as a conference, per KenPom since 2012-13 when Warney was a freshman.

I do think that being a CAA member means that bottom half teams in the A-10 or AAC would pick up the phone to talk to you about playing a game at your place, you're playing a few national TV games, which supports your pitch when trying to bring in recruits. If a recruit has to choose between Towson and UMBC, Monmouth and NJIT, or Northeastern and like a BU, I feel like we win those battles. Finances, travel and proximity aside, if you offered the nine AE teams a spot in the CAA just based on the talent/exposure of the programs, all nine would jump in my opinion.

Granted, I don't think the conference's trajectory is ideal. JMU left, Delaware's out soon, who knows what's next? I could see Charleston or UNCW being attractive to other conferences, and vice versa. I do like the regional nucleus of us, Hofstra, Northeastern, Drexel and Monmouth, and maybe we can include Towson in that – certainly qualified competitively. That said, I don't see much of a difference between Hampton, Elon, William & Mary, etc., and the lower-end teams in the AE. We're still just a one-bid league, only with more teams to climb over.

I will say that I'm enjoying it more, and the games feel more important.
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: ry1nik on February 09, 2024, 07:01:18 am
CAA now has 8 teams in the 100s on Kenpom. AE only has 2. The depth in this league is impressive.
The conference RPI of the AE is two spots higher than the CAA. The AE has one team with an RPI 300 or worse, the CAA has five. The CAA is not the step up that was expected in basketball or football.
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: sbupatriots on February 08, 2024, 10:10:53 pm
CAA now has 8 teams in the 100s on Kenpom. AE only has 2. The depth in this league is impressive.
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: Accelerator on February 08, 2024, 09:23:06 pm
Looking over at our old foes in the America East, Vermont loses 63-61 to NJIT. Not only is that 338 over 104 in KenPom, but Vermont snaps its 23-game conference winning streak, their last America East loss was Jan. 11, 2023, nearly 13 months ago.
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: sbupatriots on February 08, 2024, 07:51:01 pm
Flipped over to the UNCW game during half time. That environment is pretty impressive. Full Sideline student section all standing. Awesome for the conference.
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: Checkmate on February 08, 2024, 08:36:00 am
It’s tough to win on the road.

St. John’s: 2-4
Duquesne: 2-4
Nebraska: 1-7 (0-7 B1G)
Michigan State: 1-5

That’s 6-20.

Home/neutral record: 51-15.
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: sbupatriots on February 01, 2024, 08:59:18 am
Rutgers shot 1-17 from 3 last night to fall to 2-7 in the Big Ten. Thankfully for Pikiell he has a big recruiting class coming in next year.
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: ecasadoSBU on January 03, 2024, 05:17:22 pm
At least we're not Buffalo.

They're 1-11 and their only win was against a D3 school. They just lost at home to Niagara.

That's really sad considering how good Buffalo was a few years ago during the Bobby Hurley-Nate Oats era.

They started to derail with the Jim Whitesell hire and now have bottomed out with George.

Coaching is everything in College Basketball and for our schools is very difficult $$$$ to keep them.
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: Accelerator on January 03, 2024, 05:09:38 pm
Vermont barely won by 1 at Brown last night. They were down 17 in the first half and probably should have gotten called for a foul on the final play where Brown had a perfect look under the basket on an inbound.
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: Accelerator on December 30, 2023, 02:43:57 pm
At least we're not Buffalo.

They're 1-11 and their only win was against a D3 school. They just lost at home to Niagara.
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: guest441 on December 30, 2023, 02:28:00 pm
Pretty credible source has UMass as the "top option" to move to the CUSA, joining Kennesaw State and Delaware, who have already committed. Scrapping some longtime regional rivalries to go up against Liberty, Western Kentucky, UTEP, etc., in all sports makes me quite ill.

https://twitter.com/ChrisVannini/status/1740738579092107620

If UMass left, that would drop the A-10 to 14 teams, and you wonder if they'd stand pat or try to bring in two teams to get to 16. If it's the latter, the CAA has a few attractive non-football options that would fit right in, i.e. Hofstra, Charleston, UNCW and Towson.

Edit: Towson obviously has football but I think would be a candidate for hoops if permitted to stay in the CAA for football.

Stony brook should have tried really hard to get into the A10 instead of the CAA for all but football or just drop football and put all of there resources into basketball programs.


Nah man. Dropping football should not be an option! No Seawolves fan should be supporting that

We should just hold steady. If smaller schools can fund FCS football we definitely can also.

Let's keep funding our program and growing the following/facilities slow and steady. I get a feeling that when all hell breaks loose in the NCAAs Stony Brook's overall reputation and size will help keep it afloat.

We just have to wait patiently.

We see more and more school making desperation moves that make no sense. UMass has been making dumb moves for the past two decades now... 

Lets keep and grow our regional rivalries, keep traveling costs low, continue to build our facilities. So that when s#!t hit the fan we can survive the seismic shift.


Whatever is happening on College athletics right now is not sustainable. Something has to break. And when it breaks we need to make sure that we are in somewhat a position of strength to make the best move possible.

You cant grow facilities any slower than they do here under heilbron. there wont be new locker rooms for at least 5-10 years if lucky. what fans see looks good but what players and recruits see when they come here is different behind the scenes. I woundnt want to see sb lose football but with no interest thanks to heilbron if it doesnt get any better in the next three years they should drop it. put that money into basketball. while everyone likes to say sb has the largest budget blah blah blah that's just to cover operating expenses every year. i am sure they are not getting any money from the CAA and they cant raise money so take what they can raise and put it into basketball and if you make it to the tournamnet you are rewarded with a big payday.

im surprised no one is bothered by the news that Geno as more or less already quietly been extended. thats news.
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: sbupatriots on December 30, 2023, 02:24:08 pm
Wow, Stonehill, who Stony Brook beat by a million, just lost at Rutgers by 1. Decent result for Hofstra losing vs St Johns by 5.
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: ecasadoSBU on December 30, 2023, 01:03:40 pm
Pretty credible source has UMass as the "top option" to move to the CUSA, joining Kennesaw State and Delaware, who have already committed. Scrapping some longtime regional rivalries to go up against Liberty, Western Kentucky, UTEP, etc., in all sports makes me quite ill.

https://twitter.com/ChrisVannini/status/1740738579092107620

If UMass left, that would drop the A-10 to 14 teams, and you wonder if they'd stand pat or try to bring in two teams to get to 16. If it's the latter, the CAA has a few attractive non-football options that would fit right in, i.e. Hofstra, Charleston, UNCW and Towson.

Edit: Towson obviously has football but I think would be a candidate for hoops if permitted to stay in the CAA for football.

Stony brook should have tried really hard to get into the A10 instead of the CAA for all but football or just drop football and put all of there resources into basketball programs.


Nah man. Dropping football should not be an option! No Seawolves fan should be supporting that

We should just hold steady. If smaller schools can fund FCS football we definitely can also.

Let's keep funding our program and growing the following/facilities slow and steady. I get a feeling that when all hell breaks loose in the NCAAs Stony Brook's overall reputation and size will help keep it afloat.

We just have to wait patiently.

We see more and more school making desperation moves that make no sense. UMass has been making dumb moves for the past two decades now... 

Lets keep and grow our regional rivalries, keep traveling costs low, continue to build our facilities. So that when s#!t hit the fan we can survive the seismic shift.


Whatever is happening on College athletics right now is not sustainable. Something has to break. And when it breaks we need to make sure that we are in somewhat a position of strength to make the best move possible.
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: guest441 on December 30, 2023, 11:47:24 am
Pretty credible source has UMass as the "top option" to move to the CUSA, joining Kennesaw State and Delaware, who have already committed. Scrapping some longtime regional rivalries to go up against Liberty, Western Kentucky, UTEP, etc., in all sports makes me quite ill.

https://twitter.com/ChrisVannini/status/1740738579092107620

If UMass left, that would drop the A-10 to 14 teams, and you wonder if they'd stand pat or try to bring in two teams to get to 16. If it's the latter, the CAA has a few attractive non-football options that would fit right in, i.e. Hofstra, Charleston, UNCW and Towson.

Edit: Towson obviously has football but I think would be a candidate for hoops if permitted to stay in the CAA for football.

Stony brook should have tried really hard to get into the A10 instead of the CAA for all but football or just drop football and put all of there resources into basketball programs.
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: Curious George on December 29, 2023, 06:22:03 pm
Pretty credible source has UMass as the "top option" to move to the CUSA, joining Kennesaw State and Delaware, who have already committed. Scrapping some longtime regional rivalries to go up against Liberty, Western Kentucky, UTEP, etc., in all sports makes me quite ill.

https://twitter.com/ChrisVannini/status/1740738579092107620

If UMass left, that would drop the A-10 to 14 teams, and you wonder if they'd stand pat or try to bring in two teams to get to 16. If it's the latter, the CAA has a few attractive non-football options that would fit right in, i.e. Hofstra, Charleston, UNCW and Towson.
Towson football would remain in the CAA like Richmond?
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: Checkmate on December 29, 2023, 03:56:39 pm
Pretty credible source has UMass as the "top option" to move to the CUSA, joining Kennesaw State and Delaware, who have already committed. Scrapping some longtime regional rivalries to go up against Liberty, Western Kentucky, UTEP, etc., in all sports makes me quite ill.

https://twitter.com/ChrisVannini/status/1740738579092107620

If UMass left, that would drop the A-10 to 14 teams, and you wonder if they'd stand pat or try to bring in two teams to get to 16. If it's the latter, the CAA has a few attractive non-football options that would fit right in, i.e. Hofstra, Charleston, UNCW and Towson.

Edit: Towson obviously has football but I think would be a candidate for hoops if permitted to stay in the CAA for football.
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: Checkmate on December 29, 2023, 09:45:41 am
We're still just a one-bid league, but it's still a big weekend for the conference. On the schedule ...

Hofstra at (44) St. John's
UNCW at (66) Arkansas
Delaware vs (53) Princeton
Monmouth at (25) Oklahoma
UNC A&T at (102) George Mason
Northeastern at (238) Rhode Island

I'd sign up for 2-4 right now, maybe even 1-5.

We're just 4-11 against the A-10 this year. I expected a little better. We have a third crack at URI, having already logged double-digit wins with Charleston and Delaware.
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: guest441 on December 06, 2023, 06:32:08 pm
That’s Pikiell’s strength: recruiting. He’s also a great ambassador for the school that employs him.  Mediocre game coach, imo. But the first 2 items, definitely are the reason he landed where he did and is getting paid what he is. How he convinced Warney to stick around for 4 years still boggles the mind.

"How he convinced Warney to stick around" Warney didnt need to be convinced he had great relationships with coach pikiell and coach young and still does today. Its a credit to the character of those people.

It may very well be, but at the end of the day, you have to do what’s best for you. Pikiell certainly did that. Not sure Warney did. I agree with Hammer that SBU should do Warney a solid by adding him to coaching staff. More importantly though, Pikiell should offer Warney a coaching position; much of Pikiell’s on-court success at SBU and his subsequent offer at Rutgers was directly attributable to Warney.

Jameel is enjoying a great pro career in S Korea. Im sure when hes done playing he'll have plenty of options. The things you point out are all good things. Loyalty was rewarded for coach pikiell and for Jameel. Jameel is very loyal to coach pikiell and is at Rutgers all the time in the off season. He never comes back to stony brook and i dont blame him.
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: Chairman of the Board on December 06, 2023, 06:28:53 pm
https://nypost.com/2023/12/06/sports/five-star-dylan-harper-adds-to-rutgers-historic-top-three-class/amp/?utm_source=samsung-news&utm_campaign=nypost&utm_medium=referral&utm_source=upday&utm_medium=referral
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: OldSeawolf on December 06, 2023, 05:56:48 pm
That’s Pikiell’s strength: recruiting. He’s also a great ambassador for the school that employs him.  Mediocre game coach, imo. But the first 2 items, definitely are the reason he landed where he did and is getting paid what he is. How he convinced Warney to stick around for 4 years still boggles the mind.

"How he convinced Warney to stick around" Warney didnt need to be convinced he had great relationships with coach pikiell and coach young and still does today. Its a credit to the character of those people.

It may very well be, but at the end of the day, you have to do what’s best for you. Pikiell certainly did that. Not sure Warney did. I agree with Hammer that SBU should do Warney a solid by adding him to coaching staff. More importantly though, Pikiell should offer Warney a coaching position; much of Pikiell’s on-court success at SBU and his subsequent offer at Rutgers was directly attributable to Warney.
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: Hammertime on December 06, 2023, 05:35:15 pm
That’s Pikiell’s strength: recruiting. He’s also a great ambassador for the school that employs him.  Mediocre game coach, imo. But the first 2 items, definitely are the reason he landed where he did and is getting paid what he is. How he convinced Warney to stick around for 4 years still boggles the mind.

"How he convinced Warney to stick around" Warney didnt need to be convinced he had great relationships with coach pikiell and coach young and still does today. Its a credit to the character of those people.

The best thing that could happen to this university is, if Warney, when he retires from pro ball, reaches out to SBU and offer to coach. Start off as assistant coach, then after a few years elevate to HC. I just dont know if this school wants Warney or if Warney wants them.
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: guest441 on December 06, 2023, 04:58:09 pm
That’s Pikiell’s strength: recruiting. He’s also a great ambassador for the school that employs him.  Mediocre game coach, imo. But the first 2 items, definitely are the reason he landed where he did and is getting paid what he is. How he convinced Warney to stick around for 4 years still boggles the mind.

"How he convinced Warney to stick around" Warney didnt need to be convinced he had great relationships with coach pikiell and coach young and still does today. Its a credit to the character of those people.
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: OldSeawolf on December 06, 2023, 04:51:47 pm
That’s Pikiell’s strength: recruiting. He’s also a great ambassador for the school that employs him.  Mediocre game coach, imo. But the first 2 items, definitely are the reason he landed where he did and is getting paid what he is. How he convinced Warney to stick around for 4 years still boggles the mind.
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: Checkmate on December 06, 2023, 04:31:31 pm
The #2 prospect in the 2024 class, Dylan Harper, commits to Rutgers. It helps that his brother played there, but nevertheless it's a huge coup for Pikiell. It's at least a little cool to play for Rutgers. The question remains whether Pikiell can get the best out of him. Still very defense oriented.

The conference helps of course, but what a difference it makes to have these private schools and a talent-rich state at your fingertips. Long Island just isn't a hotbed for basketball or football for that matter.
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: Accelerator on December 04, 2023, 01:03:07 pm
Somehow we're not even the worst SUNY.

Buffalo is 360. Out of 362. Holy sh*t.
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: guest441 on December 04, 2023, 11:24:39 am
NET rankings are out. We come in at #320, ahead of only Hampton and UNC A&T, and, for what it's worth, ahead of only NJIT if we were still in the AE.

Geno's going to lean on the SOS for a while, but it holds little weight when you lose to Wagner at home, and barely squeak by Rider. And the injury part of it, when you're talking about one key piece, is a shaky argument when Yale was without Knowling, St. John was without Luis, Wagner was without Moore (their minutes leader), and oh by the way, we've turned it over 14 times in each of our losses to them the last three years, two on our home floor.

should gino be extended? rumor is he has been.
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: Checkmate on December 04, 2023, 10:30:29 am
NET rankings are out. We come in at #320, ahead of only Hampton and UNC A&T in the CAA, and, for what it's worth, ahead of only NJIT if we were still in the AE.

Geno's going to lean on the SOS for a while, but it holds little weight when you lose to Wagner at home, and barely squeak by Rider. And the injury part of it, when you're talking about one key piece, is a shaky argument when Yale was without Knowling, St. John's was without Luis, Wagner was without Moore (their minutes leader), and oh by the way, we've turned it over 14 times in each of our losses to them the last three years, two on our home floor.
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: ry1nik on December 03, 2023, 02:27:10 pm
After seeing that I’m now a Catamounts fan. I’d like to see them in the Sweet 16 or higher.
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: OldSeawolf on December 03, 2023, 10:13:54 am
Check out how Vermont beat Yale ... absolute madness ...

https://x.com/hardwiredsports/status/1731133801600827711?s=20

Watching Vermont overcome a 5 point deficit to Yale with 3.8 seconds left, almost makes you forget about our loss to Wagner as not being that bad......almost.
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: Checkmate on December 02, 2023, 09:56:38 pm
Check out how Vermont beat Yale ... absolute madness ...

https://x.com/hardwiredsports/status/1731133801600827711?s=20
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: Accelerator on December 02, 2023, 06:27:06 pm
Two amazing road ranked wins for the CAA this afternoon!

And one humiliating loss at home to an NEC team!
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: sbupatriots on December 02, 2023, 03:07:29 pm
Really good day so far for the CAA. Drexel up 26-25 on Nova at half, Campbell up by 22 at half, Delaware up by 8 on Boals at half, Northeastern up 7 against ODU at half. 4 big opportunities in the late slate with us, UNCW vs Kentucky, Charleston vs FAU and W&M @Richmond. Lets go CAA!
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: Knicksbu99 on November 28, 2023, 01:31:38 pm
UB basketball has cratered since oates left and leipold left football. The basketball implosion is inexcusable imo should be able to recruit to buffalo. Charleston with two huge opportunities this weekend liberty and fau probably lose both but would be big for the conference to get at least 1 maybe two.
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: sbupatriots on November 20, 2023, 09:01:29 pm
Hofstra beating Buffalo by 40. Buffalo was a 6th seed under Nate Oats not too long ago. Shows the difference a great coach can make - even at SUNY.
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: sbupatriots on November 19, 2023, 09:23:33 pm
Monmouth and Hampton, both new, actually have our two best wins. Of course, A&T is one of the worst teams in America and neither we nor Campbell has done much.

It was a pretty good teams-we-lost-to weekend, with Nebraska beating Oregon State and the Johnnies knocking off a good Utah team. Yes, we are reaching.

I know it doesnt mean a whole lot but according to Kenpom, weve had the 18th toughest strength of schedule in the country so far. Hopefully these 20 point losses are a "not as bad as it looks" situation.
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: Checkmate on November 19, 2023, 08:48:14 pm
Monmouth and Hampton, both new, actually have our two best wins. Of course, A&T is one of the worst teams in America and neither we nor Campbell has done much.

It was a pretty good teams-we-lost-to weekend, with Nebraska beating Oregon State and the Johnnies knocking off a good Utah team. Yes, we are reaching.
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: Hammertime on November 19, 2023, 12:13:06 pm
Another year of the AE looking better than the CAA. Crazy. I think the tables have turned.

The AE looks stronger and has a significantly better winning percentage so far.

that's basically the worst outcome for Stony Brook: Leaving a league where it was easier to get to the tournament (less teams) and now that league is also better in the RPI. (There is any NET release yet)


I'm all for the CAA. But I'm starting to get worried!

Go back and look at the recent additions to the CAA. That is all you need to know
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: ecasadoSBU on November 19, 2023, 10:18:17 am
Another year of the AE looking better than the CAA. Crazy. I think the tables have turned.

The AE looks stronger and has a significantly better winning percentage so far.

that's basically the worst outcome for Stony Brook: Leaving a league where it was easier to get to the tournament (less teams) and now that league is also better in the RPI. (There is any NET release yet)


I'm all for the CAA. But I'm starting to get worried!
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: Checkmate on November 18, 2023, 09:28:08 pm
Crazy. Bryant knocks off 10th ranked FAU. Among those contributing were old friend Miles Latimer, former UML standout Connor Withers, our offseason transfer hopeful Rafael Pinzon, and Doug Edert formerly of St. Peter’s fame.

Not to dwell on it, but the AE has wins over FAU, Georgia Tech, Charleston and Saint Louis.

We got a nice one today, I guess, with Hampton beating FGCU, but the only name win that I can see is Monmouth over West Virginia.
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: Chairman of the Board on November 16, 2023, 02:58:19 pm
checkie when you retire you can become our full time sports writer for SBU.  youre more than qualified.
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: Checkmate on November 16, 2023, 02:03:22 pm
Frankie 0 FGs in the last two games. One FG in the second half this season.

Vermont's reign has been ridiculous, although Lowell has at least stepped up to challenge them the last few years.

I can't wait to retire so I can randomly travel to random tournaments for random 11:30am tipoffs.

If I have it right, here's the CAA's record against the A-10 over the last few years ...

2021-22: 7-7
2022-23: 7-4
2023-24: 0-8
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: Knicksbu99 on November 16, 2023, 01:48:01 pm
Idk Kelseys constant subbing gimmick seemed to blow up in his face take your best player out Ante with 5 mins left?
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: Accelerator on November 16, 2023, 01:43:32 pm
Yikes. Never good for the top CAA team to lose to Vermont.

Outscored 23-7 in the final 5 minutes.
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: Hammertime on November 16, 2023, 01:31:50 pm
Vermont belongs in the A-10. Prove me wrong
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: Hammertime on November 16, 2023, 01:28:41 pm
Charleston is not the same team as last year. Not even close. No big man down center. Can’t hit a three to save their life. Can’t defend the perimeter. Oh, well. A one hit wonder team in the CAA.. PS. Vermont is good and should not be playing in garbage conference, AE..
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: Knicksbu99 on November 16, 2023, 01:28:25 pm
Charleston another second half collapse
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: Hammertime on November 16, 2023, 01:01:39 pm
Charleston has been poor shooting the three this year but especially Policelli 3-17. Weird to see him not really do any of the post game that I felt made him so effective last year he almost exclusively has shot threes this year.

policelli has zero points so far and is way off his game. 3 fouls, so far as well
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: Knicksbu99 on November 16, 2023, 12:50:30 pm
Charleston has been poor shooting the three this year but especially Policelli 3-17. Weird to see him not really do any of the post game that I felt made him so effective last year he almost exclusively has shot threes this year.
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: sbupatriots on November 16, 2023, 09:05:46 am
Charleston/Vermont at 11:30am today. Feels like seeing your friend from high school and college hanging out together without you. Kind've have to root for a Charleston win today after what has been a very underwhelming start for the CAA so far.
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: Checkmate on November 14, 2023, 09:45:31 pm
Tough night for the CAA. Three toss-ups at least according to the odds, and we went 0-3. Among them was Northeastern getting demolished by Harvard. Meanwhile, Lowell just won at Georgia Tech.

Big one Thursday. Vermont v Charleston in Myrtle Beach.
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: Knicksbu99 on November 10, 2023, 10:10:46 pm
Chose to watch the Charleston Duquesne game over our D3 scrimmage.Game was back and forth for about 30 minutes then duquesne broke it open. Charleston may have a fatal flaw really no PG i discounted Larson last year. Policelli Burnham Ante are a potent front court lineup but there is really no PG to orchestrate they can be got. Also we have our work cut out for us against the dukes they have great guards and just solid tough team. Expect them to compete at the top of the A10
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: Checkmate on November 10, 2023, 09:43:17 pm
Monmouth 73
West Virginia 65

Nice scalp on an otherwise dismal day for the conference. 30 points from the coach's kid. Monmouth put up a good fight against a decent George Mason team in their opener too.
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: NJ Seawolf on November 07, 2023, 12:25:44 pm
It’s incredibly depressing to see Coastal Carolina (hot garbage for more of our Big South stay), Liberty (competitive with them) and JMU (Lyle Negron nearly beat them) grow into national powers while we sink into mediocrity.

This is all on our AD and his lack of vision.

Together we transform!
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: Chairman of the Board on November 07, 2023, 11:09:01 am
this was so obvious- JMU is everything that any FCS school wanting to make the jump should be.  you could tell 15 years ago. 
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: Checkmate on November 07, 2023, 09:47:27 am
James Madison just upset #4 Michigan State.

Also, they're ranked #20 in football right now.

And if you care about soccer, they upset #1 UCF there too.

It is completely depressing to watch them do what they do while we're stuck with Heilbron's non-results.

Hoops beat Virginia a couple years ago too. The coach said on the Field of 68 podcast that it's very difficult to get local power conference teams to play them now. We saw scores like 122-59, 84-31, 98-45 and 107-28 yesterday, so good for Michigan State for scheduling them.

The JMU campus is unreal, it's a nice little town, and the facilities are terrific. I also think it's a prime area for a ramped-up athletics program, with no real pro affiliation and a pretty fertile area for talent.

I look at the path for their recent football coaches. Cignetti was an assistant at Pitt, NC State and Alabama before taking a Division II and FCS job and then landing at JMU. Mike Houston's history wasn't anything particularly special but can't argue with 28-2 in two seasons at JMU. He's at ECU now. And then Everett Withers was a coach for three pro teams and programs like Louisville, Texas and Ohio State before landing in Harrisonburg.

But why examine other teams when we're just so blessed to have Priore? I wonder if Lawton wishes he was still here rather than being the second leading rusher for an undefeated ranked JMU team.
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: Accelerator on November 07, 2023, 12:26:43 am
James Madison just upset #4 Michigan State.

Also, they're ranked #20 in football right now.

And if you care about soccer, they upset #1 UCF there too.

It is completely depressing to watch them do what they do while we're stuck with Heilbron's non-results.
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: Checkmate on November 06, 2023, 07:41:22 pm
For anybody who’s sitting around, Charleston/Iona is a treat. Frankie’s going to have so many open looks this year. They were such a volume shooting team last year, but Frankie should help their efficiency.
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: Checkmate on November 06, 2023, 11:51:21 am
Hoops is officially underway with Hofstra taking on St. Joe's this morning. What's pretty cool is that it's a field trip for kids from local schools and they're all going crazy. Love this idea. Get the kids to tell their parents to come to the next game and the next game.
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: Checkmate on October 27, 2023, 02:29:20 pm
The NIT is shafting mid-majors now too, per Jeff Goodman. Who doesn't love 17-15 Clemson and 16-16 Iowa State?

For the 2024 NIT, conference regular season champions that do not win their conference tournament or are not otherwise selected to the NCAA Division I Men’s Basketball Championship will not receive an automatic bid to the NIT.  Instead, the NIT will guarantee two teams (based on the NET rankings) from each of six conferences (Atlantic Coast, Big East, Big Ten, Big 12, Pac-12 and Southeastern). The top two teams in the NET rankings not qualifying for the NCAA men’s basketball tournament from each conference, regardless of won-loss record, will be selected.  Additionally, the 12 teams automatically selected will be guaranteed the opportunity to host a game in the first round of the NIT.

Once the 12 automatic qualifying schools have been selected, the NIT Committee will select the 20 best teams available to complete the tournament’s 32-team field.  Based on the NIT Committee’s evaluation, the best four teams of the 20 at-large teams selected will complete the 16 first round hosts, with deference given to the “first four teams out” of the Division I Men’s Basketball Championship, as determined by the NCAA Division I Men’s Basketball.  Additional teams from the six conferences with AQs are eligible to be selected as at-large teams and can be selected as hosts.
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: Accelerator on October 24, 2023, 06:18:05 pm
Three home non-cons, and all D3? WTF???
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: Knicksbu99 on October 24, 2023, 05:31:22 pm
Wow horrible.
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: Checkmate on October 24, 2023, 03:19:27 pm
Wow. Imagine this non-con home schedule?

https://uncwsports.com/sports/mens-basketball/schedule/2023-24

Siddle is very high on this year's team and links that to the difficulty they had scheduling ... but come on. We can't complain (as much) after seeing this.
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: ibosbu on October 24, 2023, 01:22:43 pm
A10 with only 1 team in the tourney! Their demise is the most puzzling one for me.
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: Checkmate on October 24, 2023, 10:48:47 am
https://www.espn.com/espn/feature/story/_/page/bracketology/ncaa-bracketology-2024-march-madness-men-field-predictions

As expected, Lunardi's preseason bracketology has Charleston as the lone CAA representative, earning a 13 seed. It's just one slot higher than Vermont as the AE automatic qualifier.

The CAA has had five different tournament champions in the last five years. Charleston is the popular pick right now, but I think them falling back to the pack is definitely in play.
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: nyrfan1013 on October 23, 2023, 10:44:08 am
Stunner. Merrimack and Sacred Heart leaving the NEC for the MAAC. Merrimack jumping ship in record time and joining a real solid conference; can't really blame them. I'm not sure how many times the NEC can backfill by dipping into the D-II ranks.

According to one of those burner twitters who have been right lately they just tweeted

@TheArmChairAD - All I can say is I hear the floodgates may not be finished for the NEC and the CAA is not done expanding yet


Now they are saying possibly Fairfield to the CAA in the future
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: NJ Seawolf on October 23, 2023, 10:40:18 am
The MAAC is a good step up for them. I’ve always had a soft spot for the conference. CAA is probably better quality wise but the travel would be nice in that conference. This is the problem by being tethered so tightly to football sometimes.
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: Checkmate on October 23, 2023, 10:27:29 am
Stunner. Merrimack and Sacred Heart leaving the NEC for the MAAC. Merrimack jumping ship in record time and joining a real solid conference; can't really blame them. I'm not sure how many times the NEC can backfill by dipping into the D-II ranks.
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: Accelerator on October 19, 2023, 06:52:12 pm
Asking a cop to shoot jumpers and play ball with you while you're in the middle of being arrested is certainly a new one.
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: ry1nik on October 19, 2023, 04:27:53 pm
Grasso comes across as a complete ahole talking to the cop like he did. Can his ass.
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: Checkmate on October 19, 2023, 02:39:27 pm
Jared Grasso is in hot water. He claimed his car got damaged outside some restaurant, and the cop said that someone from the scene of the accident gave him his plates. Bad bad look.

News report: https://turnto10.com/news/local/police-release-bodycam-of-investigation-into-bryant-basketball-coachs-alleged-hit-and-run-north-smithfield-police-oct-19-2023
Full footage: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rm49wSy6W1A
Short clip: https://x.com/danielcoates_6/status/1715053230898454726?s=20
Ridiculous line: https://x.com/StoolCBB/status/1715053962036981813?s=20
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: OldSeawolf on October 08, 2023, 08:37:55 am
https://x.com/goodmanhoops/status/1707911073054040500?s=46&t=ut9CrGyfRAKsKxkxEQCqog

Bryant head coach Jared Grasso is on a leave of absence, school spokesman told @TheMessenger. Spokesman said it’s a “personal matter.”

Hope all is well with him. Was actually excited to see him when they play stony brook. He was a name I read a lot when people wanted Geno out

Not looking good for Grasso.

"UPDATE #2
Multiple sources indicated Grasso’s leave of absence was a university decision. There is reportedly an ongoing investigation into inappropriate behavior by the Bryant head coach.

It’s unclear whether or not Grasso will return to the sidelines, but the sources we’ve spoken to could not rule out possible termination.

This is a developing story. Stay tuned for more updates." https://burnerball.com/sources-bryants-grasso-taking-leave-of-absence/

Then...

"According to a report from GoLocal, Bryant College head men’s basketball coach Jared Grasso was arrested by Smithfield, RI police on October 1st, and charged with “Failure to Stop for Accident Resulting in Damage to Vehicle.” Grasso is due for arraignment on Oct. 24 in Third Division District Court.

The arrest occurred two days after Grasso was placed on leave by the university. This incident appears to be unrelated to the current leave." https://hoopdirt.com/bryants-grasso-arrested/

Wow, what a rise and fall.  He was a real up-and-comer too.
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: Accelerator on October 08, 2023, 12:25:43 am
https://x.com/goodmanhoops/status/1707911073054040500?s=46&t=ut9CrGyfRAKsKxkxEQCqog

Bryant head coach Jared Grasso is on a leave of absence, school spokesman told @TheMessenger. Spokesman said it’s a “personal matter.”

Hope all is well with him. Was actually excited to see him when they play stony brook. He was a name I read a lot when people wanted Geno out

Not looking good for Grasso.

"UPDATE #2
Multiple sources indicated Grasso’s leave of absence was a university decision. There is reportedly an ongoing investigation into inappropriate behavior by the Bryant head coach.

It’s unclear whether or not Grasso will return to the sidelines, but the sources we’ve spoken to could not rule out possible termination.

This is a developing story. Stay tuned for more updates." https://burnerball.com/sources-bryants-grasso-taking-leave-of-absence/

Then...

"According to a report from GoLocal, Bryant College head men’s basketball coach Jared Grasso was arrested by Smithfield, RI police on October 1st, and charged with “Failure to Stop for Accident Resulting in Damage to Vehicle.” Grasso is due for arraignment on Oct. 24 in Third Division District Court.

The arrest occurred two days after Grasso was placed on leave by the university. This incident appears to be unrelated to the current leave." https://hoopdirt.com/bryants-grasso-arrested/
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: nyrfan1013 on October 04, 2023, 10:58:12 am
Not sure if anyone follows “Trilly Donovan” on Twitter but he’s been breaking a lot of big stories lately. Last night he posted a Hofstra GIF which means something is coming out about Hofstra soon.. big recruitment commit? Not sure but for him to tweet it, it must be semi big.
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: nyrfan1013 on September 30, 2023, 10:11:00 am
https://x.com/goodmanhoops/status/1707911073054040500?s=46&t=ut9CrGyfRAKsKxkxEQCqog

Bryant head coach Jared Grasso is on a leave of absence, school spokesman told @TheMessenger. Spokesman said it’s a “personal matter.”

Hope all is well with him. Was actually excited to see him when they play stony brook. He was a name I read a lot when people wanted Geno out
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: Checkmate on August 11, 2023, 10:57:59 am
Trouble in Towson.

https://www.wbaltv.com/article/towson-university-basketball-player-charged-****-june-2022/44789462
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: nyrfan1013 on August 03, 2023, 05:04:56 pm
https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/38127594/drexel-basketball-player-terrence-butler-found-dead-apartment?fbclid=IwAR3J0PAHXRL5hqSy7gEp9c0OXiOlYEZNf3RZRDGXo6lGkDHQ8b3USmLDQPs_aem_AaOteIvRt5JPsRw3Qtkp_ctNVj30omGk8m1UFBNmB9jNGwiBzkLSDuU436U2s36I1AI&mibextid=Zxz2cZ

So sad. Prayers and condolences to the family.
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: OldSeawolf on June 23, 2023, 06:01:00 am
Old friend/foe Will Brown has a new home.

https://twitter.com/marksingelais/status/1672005093938397186?s=46&t=_0k7SEdo93-_6CvjA-r49w

It was rumored many times that he was pretty locked in to remaining in the Albany area due to family.  I think this confirms that.
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: Checkmate on June 22, 2023, 11:00:41 pm
Old friend/foe Will Brown has a new home.

https://twitter.com/marksingelais/status/1672005093938397186?s=46&t=_0k7SEdo93-_6CvjA-r49w
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: Checkmate on May 08, 2023, 01:44:44 pm
I would love to get into one of these legitimate preseason MTEs like Towson is here: https://twitter.com/JonRothstein/status/1655586619649413127?s=20. In this case, you'd be looking at three automatic games against top 100 teams. Of course, we have to earn our way into something like this. Towson was good enough to do so.

Our MTE opponents of late have included FIU, Eastern Washington, Texas A&M Corpus Christi, UT Rio Grande Valley, North Dakota State, so not terrific. That said, it was pretty sweet to beat the latter three in successive days back in 2019. I think we're at least on the outskirts of the discussion being in the CAA.
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: nyrfan1013 on May 06, 2023, 12:03:23 pm
Hofstra will play St John’s at ubs arena dec 29th.. should be an exciting game.. winter break for students which kinda sucks
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: Hammertime on April 15, 2023, 01:54:31 pm
https://twitter.com/theportalreport/status/1646938055662510194?s=46&t=DoORW5uXHIKRnGVemkrkbg

Let’s get him. Worth just to see the reaction from their fans.

I dont recall seeing SBU name on that list
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: ibosbu on April 15, 2023, 08:34:49 am
https://twitter.com/theportalreport/status/1646938055662510194?s=46&t=DoORW5uXHIKRnGVemkrkbg

Let’s get him. Worth just to see the reaction from their fans.
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: Chairman of the Board on April 13, 2023, 01:38:22 pm
True. Didn't mean to dismiss Simons' mathematical contributions, which are valuable to the academic reputation of Stony Brook, was speaking solely in terms of athletics with my disappointment in him. He could have at least tossed us one measly bone over the years instead of the absolute zero he's done so far. And there's no telling how much his potential athletic donations could raise the profile of the school.

this is an important post.

because it highlights the same issue we've been discussing since the inception (2012) of this forum.  if an undergrad, who later hits it big, had a positive experience at SB, maybe through athletics, then they're more inclined to help out in the future.

but if you have no one on campus on the weekends, and then no one watching games, they have very little affinity for the U and will contribute but not to athletics.

it's all the same issue really. http://sbufan.createaforum.com/around-stony-brook/making-sb-better-idea-thread-2-0/
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: Hammertime on April 13, 2023, 12:29:22 pm
True. Didn't mean to dismiss Simons' mathematical contributions, which are valuable to the academic reputation of Stony Brook, was speaking solely in terms of athletics with my disappointment in him. He could have at least tossed us one measly bone over the years instead of the absolute zero he's done so far. And there's no telling how much his potential athletic donations could raise the profile of the school.

I used to think that as well. A few Million bucks donated from Renaissance technology is a spot in a 55 galling drum…
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: Accelerator on April 13, 2023, 11:55:07 am
True. Didn't mean to dismiss Simons' mathematical contributions, which are valuable to the academic reputation of Stony Brook, was speaking solely in terms of athletics with my disappointment in him. He could have at least tossed us one measly bone over the years instead of the absolute zero he's done so far. And there's no telling how much his potential athletic donations could raise the profile of the school.
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: ibosbu on April 13, 2023, 10:31:28 am
but the opposite can also be true- yes, this is stating the obvious- elevating the athletic profile will then in turn improve our academic reputation.  it just does.

a good year in FB/bball invites more applications, better students, more revenue, more alums contributing, tv contracts, ads, etc.

100%. Villanova is an excellent case point. It was a regional college accepting 50%. Over the last decade with basketball success and exposure, it now has become more selective…accepting 25% as application number soaring. Donations pouring in. It’s a national university now. Ranking is shooting up.

https://www.inquirer.com/news/villanova-basketball-academics-championship-more-selective-20220401.html?outputType=amp
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: Chairman of the Board on April 13, 2023, 10:20:24 am
i agree that Simons' contribution helped the overall profile of the U.

but the opposite can also be true- yes, this is stating the obvious- elevating the athletic profile will then in turn improve our academic reputation.  it just does.

a good year in FB/bball invites more applications, better students, more revenue, more alums contributing, tv contracts, ads, etc.

did kids from LI ever go to northwestern SC?  they do now, at clemson.  kids from LI never went to bama, but now they apply.  FGC?  same story. 
ever hear of gonzaga?  kids now connect flights in denver just to attend college near idaho- yes, idaho. 
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: ibosbu on April 13, 2023, 09:56:25 am
Thank you Simons. That Math building was hideous. I have worked part time in the math library when I was there. I used to worry the building would fall down with a slight tremor in earth. I think the building was a bit tilted too, although my friends thought it was my imagination.
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: guest410 on April 13, 2023, 09:30:20 am
We could have Jim Simons, but what the hell has he done for us? I've never seen him make a single athletic donation and he could be to us what Phil Knight was to Oregon. What a waste of a potential resource.

Hold it Hold it. Simons has been hugeeeeee for the University. Maybe not athletics. But for the academic side of things he donated for that shiny math building across the street from the arena (behind Physics/Math Complex) and then he made a substantial donation to Stony Brook Medical School (renamed Renaissance after his company).

Let's give credit where credit is due.

Stony Brook University is academically more competitive thanks to donors like Simons.


Now, what we need are donors like Simons that LIKE Athletics also. That we lack!

If I'm not mistaken, he's donated north of $300 million to Stony Brook, and that was in a roughly 5-year span around the start of 2010. Sucks that he doesn't like athletics but his money has helped boost the profile of the school, which in turn made the school move up the rankings, and made my degree just a little more valuable to outsiders.
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: nyrfan1013 on April 13, 2023, 08:46:24 am
Very weird move but according to Adam Zagoria - “Sources: Quinnipiac coach Baker Dunleavy will resign today and go to work at in fundraising at Villanova”

Guess he’s done coaching
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: ecasadoSBU on April 13, 2023, 08:36:17 am
We could have Jim Simons, but what the hell has he done for us? I've never seen him make a single athletic donation and he could be to us what Phil Knight was to Oregon. What a waste of a potential resource.

Hold it Hold it. Simons has been hugeeeeee for the University. Maybe not athletics. But for the academic side of things he donated for that shiny math building across the street from the arena (behind Physics/Math Complex) and then he made a substantial donation to Stony Brook Medical School (renamed Renaissance after his company).

Let's give credit where credit is due.

Stony Brook University is academically more competitive thanks to donors like Simons.


Now, what we need are donors like Simons that LIKE Athletics also. That we lack!
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: Hammertime on April 13, 2023, 06:04:03 am
We could have Jim Simons, but what the hell has he done for us? I've never seen him make a single athletic donation and he could be to us what Phil Knight was to Oregon. What a waste of a potential resource.

Simons hates sports. He is a mathematic genius and only cares about higher education, not sports. But I get what you are saying. If he was a sports guy first. This school would be FBS by now with a 25,000-seat stadium, with no Priore or Heilbron.
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: Accelerator on April 12, 2023, 11:20:22 pm
We could have Jim Simons, but what the hell has he done for us? I've never seen him make a single athletic donation and he could be to us what Phil Knight was to Oregon. What a waste of a potential resource.
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: ibosbu on April 12, 2023, 10:48:42 pm
We need a NIL sugar daddy too.
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: Knicksbu99 on April 12, 2023, 10:29:43 pm
Big Syracuse booster Adam weitsman is done supporting them. Saw a rumor on twitter he will be shifting to support Binghamton! If true very interesting to see how that plays out in a conference like the America East can you buy a title?
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: Chairman of the Board on April 12, 2023, 09:19:40 am
im stating the obvious, but if they can freely move, sometimes mid-year, and get paid via NIL, not graduate, stay 5-6 years (ok that's somewhat attributable to a pandemic), the more and more it looks like pro sports. 

yet, it's not.  it feels like the NCAA couldnt pick a side.  wonder if it gets worse or better.
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: ibosbu on April 11, 2023, 11:39:54 pm
Charleston kept the pipeline going from D-II West Liberty, reeling in 6-5/200 F Bryce Butler, who averaged 22 and 8 this year, shooting 59 percent from the field, including 43 percent from deep. He helped West Liberty win 33 games before falling to Nova Southeastern in the D-II title game, and played alongside Pat Robinson III and Dalton Bolon at West Lib previously. I have to think that being a feeder school for D-Is is a positive recruiting tool for these D-IIs.

May be NEC could be a feeder league for us  ;D
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: ibosbu on April 11, 2023, 11:35:08 pm
I still think student athletes should have the freedom to transfer as they wish. If regular students can transfer as many time as they want to different institutions so should student athletes. Everyone in the college sports world is able to move around freely. Why limit the student athlete if you are not going to limit the movement of everyone else involved (coaches, admins, A.D, etc)?

Perhaps, what should be considered is that after a 2nd transfer the next one requires a one-year gap in athletics

I mentioned earlier in this thread that “I personally hated the previous transfer rules. Players had to sit out a year. Coaches had too much power on players. Players had to stick it out at unfair situations. But I’m starting to hate the new rules too. Too easy to transfer. No roster continuity.”

I have been thinking about a fair system and my idea:

— all players should have one free transfer with no sitting out. It would give the players a chance to change scenery for better personal fit (or $$$ in this age of NIL).

— some players will get a second free transfer with no sitting out only if there’s one of the following two conditions: 1) there’s a coaching change due the coach leaving or getting fired, and 2) grad student transfer.

— all other second/third transfers will require a sitting out but no need for permission from coach or school. This will prevent coaches abusing their power. This will also force the players to make a wiser and informed decision when making the first free transfer. Also Coaches/programs can’t just poach a player and start benefiting right away. So transfer rate will reduce.

Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: ecasadoSBU on April 11, 2023, 06:27:02 pm
I still think student athletes should have the freedom to transfer as they wish. If regular students can transfer as many time as they want to different institutions so should student athletes. Everyone in the college sports world is able to move around freely. Why limit the student athlete if you are not going to limit the movement of everyone else involved (coaches, admins, A.D, etc)?

Perhaps, what should be considered is that after a 2nd transfer the next one requires a one-year gap in athletics
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: Hammertime on April 11, 2023, 03:45:53 pm
I read earlier than 20 percent of Division I players are now in the transfer portal, and we still have a month to go.

I'm sorry, but this free agency in College Basketball is way out of hand.  What % of college BBall players go onto having a viable pro career?  It's no longer about education for these college athletes.

Blame the NCAA for this. I remember years ago when this topic was being discussed. Everybody on here thought it was a great idea for athletes to transfer at will. Most responses at the time were. "If coaches can just pick up and leave why can't athletes do the same? I held my ground by saying it would be a bad idea and set bad examples. I still feel that way and athletes need to suck it up and compete harder if they want to be starters for any school. Well, just look at the total disaster this turned into being.
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: Chairman of the Board on April 11, 2023, 11:54:28 am
dont apologize- youre not wrong.
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: OldSeawolf on April 11, 2023, 10:18:51 am
I read earlier than 20 percent of Division I players are now in the transfer portal, and we still have a month to go.

I'm sorry, but this free agency in College Basketball is way out of hand.  What % of college BBall players go onto having a viable pro career?  It's no longer about education for these college athletes.
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: Checkmate on April 11, 2023, 09:27:40 am
More transfer news that may only be interesting to me ...

Charleston kept the pipeline going from D-II West Liberty, reeling in 6-5/200 F Bryce Butler, who averaged 22 and 8 this year, shooting 59 percent from the field, including 43 percent from deep. He helped West Liberty win 33 games before falling to Nova Southeastern in the D-II title game, and played alongside Pat Robinson III and Dalton Bolon at West Lib previously. I have to think that being a feeder school for D-Is is a positive recruiting tool for these D-IIs.

I read earlier than 20 percent of Division I players are now in the transfer portal, and we still have a month to go.

Also worth noting, A&T hired Monte Ross as its new head coach. He was a longtime HC at Delaware, and most recently was on the Temple staff that got let go.
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: Checkmate on April 09, 2023, 07:20:40 am
Worth noting that McCombs did not get the Pitt job. They did tap into the A-10 though, snaring Tory Verdi, who did a great job at UMass.
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: Hammertime on April 08, 2023, 09:33:02 am
Seen on Twitter this morning -

NEWS: 2023 four-star guard Isaiah Coleman tells me he has requested to be released from his NLI to College of Charleston and will reopen his recruitment. @TiptonEdits


Maybe he wants to play for the greatest, Geno Ford!!!
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: nyrfan1013 on April 08, 2023, 08:27:40 am
Seen on Twitter this morning -

NEWS: 2023 four-star guard Isaiah Coleman tells me he has requested to be released from his NLI to College of Charleston and will reopen his recruitment. @TiptonEdits
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: Checkmate on April 06, 2023, 03:37:42 pm
Seems as though Nic Timberlake, formerly of Towson, will hook up with one of the behemoths.

https://twitter.com/jakeweingarten/status/1644015657401348097

Reminds of the time Joe Cremo went from Albany to Villanova when they were perennial title contenders.
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: Checkmate on April 05, 2023, 11:05:02 am
Aaron Estrada has entered the transfer portal

That’s a big blow for them. He is going to his 4th school!

But that’s how the new system is now. Everyone needs to adjust. Transfer portal Giveth, Transfer portal Taketh away.

I personally hated the previous transfer rules. Players had to sit out a year. Coaches had too much power on players. Players had to stick it out at unfair situations.

But I’m starting to hate the new rules too. Too easy to transfer. No roster continuity. Personally I think players should be allowed maximum two transfers including grad transfer.. no sitting out. If a player is not happy after second transfer at third school, it’s likely the player is making bad decisions or will likely never be happy.

excellent post.  hard to disagree with any of it.

agreed that umass is a cautionary tale in FBS football.  though, part of me also thinks you have to dream it to do it.  but then again, SBU doesnt have the infrastructure/support to be successful at FBS, because it cannot do it at FCS

so why us?  you'd think if anything, BC, Cuse, or even UConn would acheive success.

I can speak to UMass. I have to say that I have enjoyed being at the top tier of football (albeit at the very bottom of that tier). We play at Auburn and at Penn State this year, we're at Georgia and Mississippi State and actually host Missouri next year, so on and so on. The rest of the schedule's filled with teams from the MAC, service academies, other independents, etc. It's nice seeing our name on the ticker and at least dreaming about playing in a bowl game someday. I thought that day would be a lot sooner, but here we are. What has stunted our growth is that the facilities, particularly the stadium, are well behind just about everywhere else. It doesn't help that Massachusetts is far from a fertile recruiting territory. And we've had many many years that weren't just bad. They were horrible. The fan base hasn't grown in 20 years. We had 12,000 fans at a I-AA playoff game our championship year. We probably averaged about 10,000 fans a game last year, in an upgraded stadium against better competition. Western Mass just isn't this college football bastion.

Much like Long Island. Nevertheless – and without regard for budget – I'm for it. I've enjoyed it.

I think that UMass football was further along when making the move than Stony Brook is currently. I personally can't see it happening, but if it did, I'd get behind it.

Re: the transfer portal, everybody in the world has already graduated so there would have been unprecedented movement anyway, but the NIL stuff makes the west even wilder.
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: Chairman of the Board on April 05, 2023, 09:21:51 am
Aaron Estrada has entered the transfer portal

That’s a big blow for them. He is going to his 4th school!

But that’s how the new system is now. Everyone needs to adjust. Transfer portal Giveth, Transfer portal Taketh away.

I personally hated the previous transfer rules. Players had to sit out a year. Coaches had too much power on players. Players had to stick it out at unfair situations.

But I’m starting to hate the new rules too. Too easy to transfer. No roster continuity. Personally I think players should be allowed maximum two transfers including grad transfer.. no sitting out. If a player is not happy after second transfer at third school, it’s likely the player is making bad decisions or will likely never be happy.

excellent post.  hard to disagree with any of it.

agreed that umass is a cautionary tale in FBS football.  though, part of me also thinks you have to dream it to do it.  but then again, SBU doesnt have the infrastructure/support to be successful at FBS, because it cannot do it at FCS

so why us?  you'd think if anything, BC, Cuse, or even UConn would acheive success. 
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: nyrfan1013 on April 05, 2023, 09:10:10 am
Aaron Estrada has entered the transfer portal

That’s a big blow for them. He is going to his 4th school!

But that’s how the new system is now. Everyone needs to adjust. Transfer portal Giveth, Transfer portal Taketh away.

I personally hated the previous transfer rules. Players had to sit out a year. Coaches had too much power on players. Players had to stick it out at unfair situations.

But I’m starting to hate the new rules too. Too easy to transfer. No roster continuity. Personally I think players should be allowed maximum two transfers including grad transfer.. no sitting out. If a player is not happy after second transfer at third school, it’s likely the player is making bad decisions or will likely never be happy.

Schools he’s already heard from - Alabama
Temple
Texas Tech
Arkansas
Seton Hall
Arizona
Cincinnati
Florida State
Kansas State
Washington State
NC State
Ole Miss
Tennessee
Georgetown
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: ibosbu on April 05, 2023, 06:03:45 am
If we can get this athletic department consistently at the top of CAA Football/Basketball we can some day aspire to some sort of FBS/A-10 alignment. For now, we gotta keep dreaming and hope someone with power is reading this board

In my opinion A10 has lost its luster. I could be wrong. It’s not the 3-bids/4-bids league it used to be. It’s a 1-bid league now, may be 2-bids in certain years. CAA is not that behind A10. We don’t need to move to A10 anymore to achieve high level basketball. With right leadership it is certainly possible while staying in CAA.

And FBS/CAA is also as feasible as FBS/A10 if we want to go in FBS route (long long way to FBS). High level College Football in northeast is not practical in my opinion. We can try what UMass is doing but it’s a lost cause. But we can focus on basketball and can definitely do wonder with our program. Again with right leadership.
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: ibosbu on April 05, 2023, 05:49:44 am
Aaron Estrada has entered the transfer portal

That’s a big blow for them. He is going to his 4th school!

But that’s how the new system is now. Everyone needs to adjust. Transfer portal Giveth, Transfer portal Taketh away.

I personally hated the previous transfer rules. Players had to sit out a year. Coaches had too much power on players. Players had to stick it out at unfair situations.

But I’m starting to hate the new rules too. Too easy to transfer. No roster continuity. Personally I think players should be allowed maximum two transfers including grad transfer.. no sitting out. If a player is not happy after second transfer at third school, it’s likely the player is making bad decisions or will likely never be happy.
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: Hammertime on April 04, 2023, 03:23:41 pm
The Big East has a stronghold in the Northeast in top tier college basketball. Even if the UConn coach/fanbase doesn't admit it.... the reality is that rejoining the Big East powered up Connecticut to be back where is at today. Those that left are paying the price of having to co-exist with the Carolina centered ACC (see Louisville, Pitt, Syracuse, ND)

The Connecticut athletic department was in shambles during its stay in the AAC. Now they have stabilized their football program while in Independence and have championship winning basketball back in Storrs.

Obviously Connecticut is in a different level to Stony Brook....


With that said, I do think that Stony Brook has the infrastructure, reputation, and resources to engineer a similar athletic turnaround at the mid-major level to compete well in the top tier of the CAA to get us back into the NCAA FCS/Tournament. We just need the right heads leading this athletic department. We need good leaders that have a vision and the swagger to carry it out. Right now we just have losers that are happy with the status quo.

If we can get this athletic department consistently at the top of CAA Football/Basketball we can some day aspire to some sort of FBS/A-10 alignment. For now, we gotta keep dreaming and hope someone with power is reading this board


That FBS/ A-10 pipe dream is long gone
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: nyrfan1013 on April 04, 2023, 12:27:21 pm
Aaron Estrada has entered the transfer portal
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: ecasadoSBU on April 04, 2023, 11:45:48 am
The Big East has a stronghold in the Northeast in top tier college basketball. Even if the UConn coach/fanbase doesn't admit it.... the reality is that rejoining the Big East powered up Connecticut to be back where is at today. Those that left are paying the price of having to co-exist with the Carolina centered ACC (see Louisville, Pitt, Syracuse, ND)

The Connecticut athletic department was in shambles during its stay in the AAC. Now they have stabilized their football program while in Independence and have championship winning basketball back in Storrs.

Obviously Connecticut is in a different level to Stony Brook....


With that said, I do think that Stony Brook has the infrastructure, reputation, and resources to engineer a similar athletic turnaround at the mid-major level to compete well in the top tier of the CAA to get us back into the NCAA FCS/Tournament. We just need the right heads leading this athletic department. We need good leaders that have a vision and the swagger to carry it out. Right now we just have losers that are happy with the status quo.

If we can get this athletic department consistently at the top of CAA Football/Basketball we can some day aspire to some sort of FBS/A-10 alignment. For now, we gotta keep dreaming and hope someone with power is reading this board

Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: Chairman of the Board on April 04, 2023, 11:15:22 am
a good documentary for those interested is 30 for 30 requiem for the big east.  they were not integrated and lost out to ACC/B1G/PAC; how'd they do it?  tv games, recruiting, etc.  Could be a roap map for conferences like the A10, maybe even the MAAC.
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: Checkmate on April 04, 2023, 11:04:40 am
Congratulations @ecasadoSBU and UConn. I think it’s about time we call them blue blood?

Oh man. What a game!!!!!!!!!!! Still out here hanging out in 33rd Street. What a great time.

Well... I dont know. UConn ties the Duke Blue Devils... if that isn't blue blood... then what is?

That's a really good, really well coached team. Fun to watch.

Titles the last 25 years ...

5 - UConn
3 - North Carolina
3 - Duke
2 - Kentucky
2 - Kansas
2 - Villanova
2 - Florida
Others: Baylor, Louisville, Virginia, Syracuse, Maryland, Michigan State

Of note:
0 - Indiana
0 - UCLA
0 - Gonzaga

What's amazing is that, in that time, the championship team with the most losses in the season were UConn (9; 2011), UConn (8; 2014) and UConn (8; 2023). And then there are years where they didn't even make the tournament. Their last tournament victory prior to this season was back in 2016.

The last couple months they sure looked like the best team in the country though. A real feather in the cap for the Big East. Its demise was greatly exaggerated.

"We were tied with the national runner-up with three minutes to go" is a great line for Kelsey to have in his pocket. The Larson three at 53-53 was just abominable. 10-4 SDSU run to end it.
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: NJ Seawolf on April 04, 2023, 12:49:23 am
Hiring Hurley was a genius move by UConn

You can't go wrong with NJ hoops- there is something special about hoops in this state. Hurley is a product of this basketball culture

The next Stony Brook coach would be smart to aggressively go after talent in the Garden State
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: ecasadoSBU on April 04, 2023, 12:27:43 am
Congratulations @ecasadoSBU and UConn. I think it’s about time we call them blue blood?

Oh man. What a game!!!!!!!!!!! Still out here hanging out in 33rd Street. What a great time.

Well... I dont know. UConn ties the Duke Blue Devils... if that isn't blue blood... then what is?
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: ibosbu on April 03, 2023, 11:56:49 pm
Congratulations @ecasadoSBU and UConn. I think it’s about time we call them blue blood?
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: guest441 on April 02, 2023, 09:18:25 pm
Just some food for thought.

FAU was founded in 1961. They are located an hour away from Miami, which has many pro sports. They moved to D1 in 1994. They are now in the Final Four and will be moving to the AAC next year.

I don't want to hear any more bogus excuses from Heilbron and his cronies when you have an example of a school that is forging their own history right now. Compare and contrast and it just makes us look even more pathetic.

SBU is a suny school and the bar is low. As long as they get to collect their paychecks, they will be happy.

Indeed.. SBU does not want to be an FAU. They don’t care about sports. I was told last year by Rob E. Associate AD, that SBU football will never go FBS and the school has no interest in getting better. They are quite comfortable where things are right now, And this coming from an employee of SBU.
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: Knicksbu99 on April 01, 2023, 06:58:29 pm
Recruiting to Boca Raton vs Long island.
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: Hammertime on April 01, 2023, 05:41:16 am
Just some food for thought.

FAU was founded in 1961. They are located an hour away from Miami, which has many pro sports. They moved to D1 in 1994. They are now in the Final Four and will be moving to the AAC next year.

I don't want to hear any more bogus excuses from Heilbron and his cronies when you have an example of a school that is forging their own history right now. Compare and contrast and it just makes us look even more pathetic.

Indeed.. SBU does not want to be an FAU. They don’t care about sports. I was told last year by Rob E. Associate AD, that SBU football will never go FBS and the school has no interest in getting better. They are quite comfortable where things are right now, And this coming from an employee of SBU.
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: VA_Seawolf on March 31, 2023, 01:11:10 am
Just some food for thought.

FAU was founded in 1961. They are located an hour away from Miami, which has many pro sports. They moved to D1 in 1994. They are now in the Final Four and will be moving to the AAC next year.

I don't want to hear any more bogus excuses from Heilbron and his cronies when you have an example of a school that is forging their own history right now. Compare and contrast and it just makes us look even more pathetic.

Couldn't have put it better.
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: Knicksbu99 on March 30, 2023, 05:45:43 pm
Log jam at the guard spot but he was a gettable player. What forwards are good targets?
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: nyrfan1013 on March 30, 2023, 02:08:29 pm
It seems we haven’t reached out to any guards at all in the transfer portal. Only forwards. I’m assuming Geno believes we’re okay in the guard role… would have been cool to get pinzon or even curbelo who entered the portal today. I guess with Clarke, Noll, Frey, Toby we don’t need any more
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: steveoh on March 30, 2023, 02:01:32 pm
Pinzon would have been a great get for us - especially now that we've seen he's gone to Bryant.
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: nyrfan1013 on March 30, 2023, 01:46:44 pm
Rafael Pinzon St. John’s transfer just committed to Bryant
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: guest410 on March 29, 2023, 02:07:54 pm
I can take him or leave as a coach, but he was able to recruit well and get the most out of his guys at Hartford.  I went to the Hartford-SBU semi game (right before everything got shut down for Covid), and had the pleasure of sitting next to Gallagher's cousin during that game.  Th guy was biased, but he couldn't stop raving about cuz as a coach during the game.  A game we shouldn't have lost at home, of course.

I was at that game and talked to him after the win. Really nice guy from what I could tell. Felt bad went Hartford decided to go DIII.
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: OldSeawolf on March 29, 2023, 12:14:06 pm
I can take him or leave as a coach, but he was able to recruit well and get the most out of his guys at Hartford.  I went to the Hartford-SBU semi game (right before everything got shut down for Covid), and had the pleasure of sitting next to Gallagher's cousin during that game.  Th guy was biased, but he couldn't stop raving about cuz as a coach during the game.  A game we shouldn't have lost at home, of course.
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: guest410 on March 29, 2023, 11:49:16 am
Old friend John Gallagher lands on his feet after the Hartford debacle, taking the Manhattan job. Good hire. I always thought he got a lot out of his teams and recruited well.

The players do NOT like the hire. https://www.midmajormadness.com/2023/3/28/23660299/manhattan-reportedly-hires-former-hartford-coach-john-gallagher-as-new-head-coach
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: Checkmate on March 29, 2023, 11:10:54 am
Old friend John Gallagher lands on his feet after the Hartford debacle, taking the Manhattan job. Good hire. I always thought he got a lot out of his teams and recruited well.
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: ibosbu on March 27, 2023, 06:34:17 pm
Thank you.
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: ecasadoSBU on March 27, 2023, 04:10:18 pm
Done!
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: Chairman of the Board on March 27, 2023, 02:52:09 pm
its been out for a while.  i'm not sure on how to configure- eCasado, any guidance on this point please?

thanks for the heads up.
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: ibosbu on March 27, 2023, 01:30:52 pm
Admin…Just noticed that the Brook.Land site is no longer active. Let’s remove that from the header and add CAA link?

https://caasports.com/index.aspx?path=stony_brook
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: ibosbu on March 27, 2023, 01:25:35 pm
Connecticut back in the Elite8 after a 10 year absence. As a UConn fan I think this team has what it takes to win it all

Congrats! UConn advances to Final Four!! You must be ecstatic. Best thing they have done for themselves was recognizing UConn is bball school, and ditching P5 football dream, and going back home to Big East from bad fit AAC.

PS good job repping us on holylandofhoops :)

That was one of heck of a game. Uconn is firing in all cylinders.

The wife and I went to Legends-33rds St to watch with the UConn fans. Packed house.

Oh, how I wish that Stony Brook could at least make a Round of 32 someday! Give us something, anything!!

Rooting for them to win it all.
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: ecasadoSBU on March 27, 2023, 12:41:50 pm
Connecticut back in the Elite8 after a 10 year absence. As a UConn fan I think this team has what it takes to win it all

Congrats! UConn advances to Final Four!! You must be ecstatic. Best thing they have done for themselves was recognizing UConn is bball school, and ditching P5 football dream, and going back home to Big East from bad fit AAC.

PS good job repping us on holylandofhoops :)

That was one of heck of a game. Uconn is firing in all cylinders.

The wife and I went to Legends-33rds St to watch with the UConn fans. Packed house.

Oh, how I wish that Stony Brook could at least make a Round of 32 someday! Give us something, anything!!
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: Hammertime on March 27, 2023, 11:55:14 am
Tykei's off to the Elite Eight and KState is the odds-on favorite to win that region now. However, he got a DNP-CD in last night's overtime game. I wonder if that's it for him.

So, as long as Nowell is healthy, Kansas State rolls Florida Atlantic to get to the Final 4.

If you know you could have gotten 30+ mins/game playing for SBU in your last eligible year VERSUS sitting on the bench and getting a front-row seat and guaranteeing that you get to the Final 4, which do you do in retrospect?

I am pretty sure he was getting paid at KState and that was probably the motivater for him to make that move. SB is far behind on NIL and Heilbron and Emerich arent smart enough to get much going with it.

It's infuriating how horrible Heilbron has band with NIL.

Guys ... it's Stony Brook basketball. It's a college sport in a pro town. Do you think any of these other CAA teams have boosters pouring in? Northeastern? Delaware? William & Mary? Do we have elite players with major social media followings? We and a million other mid-major schools have a long way to go.

The AD at Stony Brook ruined the program. You have heilbrons' can't do attitude and that is a recipe for continued failure. SB needs an ad with a vision and a plan. Like Fiore. If that is your attitude then i guess stony brook has peaked and the program will never be anything more than a suffolk section xi level with your lofty goals.

Well, after talking your boy, Rob E this past season, SBU is very comfortable and happy with being lofty
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: guest441 on March 27, 2023, 11:38:00 am
Tykei's off to the Elite Eight and KState is the odds-on favorite to win that region now. However, he got a DNP-CD in last night's overtime game. I wonder if that's it for him.

So, as long as Nowell is healthy, Kansas State rolls Florida Atlantic to get to the Final 4.

If you know you could have gotten 30+ mins/game playing for SBU in your last eligible year VERSUS sitting on the bench and getting a front-row seat and guaranteeing that you get to the Final 4, which do you do in retrospect?

I am pretty sure he was getting paid at KState and that was probably the motivater for him to make that move. SB is far behind on NIL and Heilbron and Emerich arent smart enough to get much going with it.

It's infuriating how horrible Heilbron has band with NIL.

Guys ... it's Stony Brook basketball. It's a college sport in a pro town. Do you think any of these other CAA teams have boosters pouring in? Northeastern? Delaware? William & Mary? Do we have elite players with major social media followings? We and a million other mid-major schools have a long way to go.

The AD at Stony Brook ruined the program. You have heilbrons' can't do attitude and that is a recipe for continued failure. SB needs an ad with a vision and a plan. Like Fiore. If that is your attitude then i guess stony brook has peaked and the program will never be anything more than a suffolk section xi level with your lofty goals.
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: Accelerator on March 26, 2023, 12:46:44 pm
Just some food for thought.

FAU was founded in 1961. They are located an hour away from Miami, which has many pro sports. They moved to D1 in 1994. They are now in the Final Four and will be moving to the AAC next year.

I don't want to hear any more bogus excuses from Heilbron and his cronies when you have an example of a school that is forging their own history right now. Compare and contrast and it just makes us look even more pathetic.
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: guest410 on March 26, 2023, 10:40:35 am
Tykei's off to the Elite Eight and KState is the odds-on favorite to win that region now. However, he got a DNP-CD in last night's overtime game. I wonder if that's it for him.

So, as long as Nowell is healthy, Kansas State rolls Florida Atlantic to get to the Final 4.

If you know you could have gotten 30+ mins/game playing for SBU in your last eligible year VERSUS sitting on the bench and getting a front-row seat and guaranteeing that you get to the Final 4, which do you do in retrospect?

I am pretty sure he was getting paid at KState and that was probably the motivater for him to make that move. SB is far behind on NIL and Heilbron and Emerich arent smart enough to get much going with it.

It's infuriating how horrible Heilbron has band with NIL.

Guys ... it's Stony Brook basketball. It's a college sport in a pro town. Do you think any of these other CAA teams have boosters pouring in? Northeastern? Delaware? William & Mary? Do we have elite players with major social media followings? We and a million other mid-major schools have a long way to go.

Back on 3/13 UD announced the next step in their NIL movement

https://bluehens.com/news/2023/3/13/Blue_Hen_Collective

"Today, we are excited to announce the next component of our NIL portfolio, the launch of the Blue Hen Collective, powered by Student-Athlete NIL (SANIL), which also runs collectives at Penn State, Rutgers, Wake Forest, and George Washington, among other schools. The Blue Hen Collective is an exciting new way for businesses and fans to support the success of our student-athletes and teams in the NIL era."
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: ibosbu on March 25, 2023, 11:36:31 pm
Connecticut back in the Elite8 after a 10 year absence. As a UConn fan I think this team has what it takes to win it all

Congrats! UConn advances to Final Four!! You must be ecstatic. Best thing they have done for themselves was recognizing UConn is bball school, and ditching P5 football dream, and going back home to Big East from bad fit AAC.

PS good job repping us on holylandofhoops :)
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: Checkmate on March 25, 2023, 11:03:10 pm
Tykei's off to the Elite Eight and KState is the odds-on favorite to win that region now. However, he got a DNP-CD in last night's overtime game. I wonder if that's it for him.

So, as long as Nowell is healthy, Kansas State rolls Florida Atlantic to get to the Final 4.

If you know you could have gotten 30+ mins/game playing for SBU in your last eligible year VERSUS sitting on the bench and getting a front-row seat and guaranteeing that you get to the Final 4, which do you do in retrospect?

I am pretty sure he was getting paid at KState and that was probably the motivater for him to make that move. SB is far behind on NIL and Heilbron and Emerich arent smart enough to get much going with it.

It's infuriating how horrible Heilbron has band with NIL.

Guys ... it's Stony Brook basketball. It's a college sport in a pro town. Do you think any of these other CAA teams have boosters pouring in? Northeastern? Delaware? William & Mary? Do we have elite players with major social media followings? We and a million other mid-major schools have a long way to go.
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: Accelerator on March 24, 2023, 10:46:20 pm
Tykei's off to the Elite Eight and KState is the odds-on favorite to win that region now. However, he got a DNP-CD in last night's overtime game. I wonder if that's it for him.

So, as long as Nowell is healthy, Kansas State rolls Florida Atlantic to get to the Final 4.

If you know you could have gotten 30+ mins/game playing for SBU in your last eligible year VERSUS sitting on the bench and getting a front-row seat and guaranteeing that you get to the Final 4, which do you do in retrospect?

I am pretty sure he was getting paid at KState and that was probably the motivater for him to make that move. SB is far behind on NIL and Heilbron and Emerich arent smart enough to get much going with it.

It's infuriating how horrible Heilbron has been with NIL.
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: ibosbu on March 24, 2023, 10:06:28 pm
SDST knocks off #1 seed Alabama. CAA champion Charleston can feel better that they lost to an Elite 8 team.

Houston is also out. All four #1 seeds are out  ::)
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: guest441 on March 24, 2023, 08:08:27 pm
Tykei's off to the Elite Eight and KState is the odds-on favorite to win that region now. However, he got a DNP-CD in last night's overtime game. I wonder if that's it for him.

So, as long as Nowell is healthy, Kansas State rolls Florida Atlantic to get to the Final 4.

If you know you could have gotten 30+ mins/game playing for SBU in your last eligible year VERSUS sitting on the bench and getting a front-row seat and guaranteeing that you get to the Final 4, which do you do in retrospect?

I am pretty sure he was getting paid at KState and that was probably the motivater for him to make that move. SB is far behind on NIL and Heilbron and Emerich arent smart enough to get much going with it.
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: OldSeawolf on March 24, 2023, 02:01:44 pm
Tykei's off to the Elite Eight and KState is the odds-on favorite to win that region now. However, he got a DNP-CD in last night's overtime game. I wonder if that's it for him.

So, as long as Nowell is healthy, Kansas State rolls Florida Atlantic to get to the Final 4.

If you know you could have gotten 30+ mins/game playing for SBU in your last eligible year VERSUS sitting on the bench and getting a front-row seat and guaranteeing that you get to the Final 4, which do you do in retrospect? 
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: ecasadoSBU on March 24, 2023, 09:32:12 am
Connecticut back in the Elite8 after a 10 year absence. As a UConn fan I think this team has what it takes to win it all
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: Checkmate on March 24, 2023, 09:16:48 am
Tykei's off to the Elite Eight and KState is the odds-on favorite to win that region now. However, he got a DNP-CD in last night's overtime game. I wonder if that's it for him.
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: guest410 on March 22, 2023, 09:18:47 pm
Nate Oats left Buffalo for Alabama 13 days after getting an extension.
Thank you
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: Accelerator on March 22, 2023, 09:16:04 pm
Nate Oats left Buffalo for Alabama 13 days after getting an extension.
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: guest410 on March 22, 2023, 09:10:30 pm
Twitter rumor PSU interested in Kelsey. Didn’t he just get a raise?

Probably just a rumor started for clickbait. But leaving a school less than a month after receiving a contract extension is not unheard of in college athletics. I don't have any specifics off the top of my head but can google it and get back to you.
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: ibosbu on March 22, 2023, 08:40:17 pm
Big East coaching lineup in no specific order. What a lineup!!!!

Rick Pitino - SJU
Sean Miller - X
Shaka Smart - MU
Danny Hurley - UCONN
Ed Cooley - GTOWN
Greg McDermott - CU
Shaheen Holloway - SHU
Kyle Neptune - NOVA
Thad Matta - Butler
Tony Stubblefield - DePaul
??? - Providence

Kim English to Providence! Makes no sense. What did he achieve at GMU? Have fun coaching amongst some of the most experienced and seasoned coaches.
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Post by: ibosbu on March 22, 2023, 08:38:11 pm
Twitter rumor PSU interested in Kelsey. Didn’t he just get a raise?
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Post by: ecasadoSBU on March 22, 2023, 10:10:29 am
Big East coaching lineup in no specific order. What a lineup!!!!

Rick Pitino - SJU
Sean Miller - X
Shaka Smart - MU
Danny Hurley - UCONN
Ed Cooley - GTOWN
Greg McDermott - CU
Shaheen Holloway - SHU
Kyle Neptune - NOVA
Thad Matta - Butler
Tony Stubblefield - DePaul
??? - Providence




Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: ecasadoSBU on March 22, 2023, 09:59:12 am
They say old folks get less politically correct with time. Looks like Pitino DGAF anymore. Old school cringy mentality.

That's cold blooded to just throw that out in public like that. But he is on a mission. and he know the fan base is hungry for wins. Its probably what the fan base is asking for deep-down but what people don't want to hear in public.

SJU will be a contender soon in the Big East. I follow the Big East a lot. That conference is only getting stronger by the year. Big East has more lives than a cat.

Look at the ACC this year and the Big East. Who would've thought back in 2013 that this would be the current reality?


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Even more cold-blooded is Ed Cooley's departure from Providence to in-conference rival Georgetown. For me that is insane. Especially after Cooley always saying that Providence was his home and right fit. College basketball at the highest level is brutal.

I honestly don't know how Stony Brook can ever climb to this level without deep pockets and an aggressive administration
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Post by: OldSeawolf on March 22, 2023, 09:41:35 am
Actually, according to Newsday, Pitino's quote was even worse than that.  He sort of dumped on the current roster.  Wonder if Soriano will stick around.

"He added that he made inquiries about the current team and “to be honest with all of you, I didn’t get glowing reports,” except on Soriano. "

A bit unprofessional to go public like that, IMO, and I'm a big Pitino fan.
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Post by: Checkmate on March 22, 2023, 09:33:20 am
According to the sju fans and sources on the Twitter spaces, pitino will want to pick the players from the transfer portal, and possibly even have some players decommit from schools to come to sju. The current sju players will have an option to stay on the team of course, but playing time will become an issue for them.

Following up on this: https://www.foxnews.com/sports/rick-pitino-most-st-johns-players-wont-be-on-team-next-season

"The one thing I want to be honest with is a lot of the players probably won’t be back on this team because they’re probably not a good fit for me."

What a wild thing to come out and say.

But when Deion Sanders walks into the first meeting and tells the players to hit the portal because he's bringing his "luggage" with him from JSU it was okay? Not looking for a fight or anything, just seeking clarification.

I don't recall hearing that or remarking on Deion. I think there's just an assumption that a coach will move a few players in and a few players out, but I don't remember a coach going public with his hints that current roster members should look for a new home.

Our coach has his job on the line, so being so overt might not be such a bad idea in a few cases. Too bad there's no media to get the word out.

All in all, the college hoops hot stove is insane with all these people trading places.
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Post by: guest410 on March 21, 2023, 10:21:05 pm
BTW, FDU didn't even search for a new HC. They promoted an assistant to lead the team.

https://www.si.com/college/2023/03/21/fairleigh-dickinson-promotes-jack-castleberry-head-coach
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Post by: nyrfan1013 on March 21, 2023, 09:14:53 pm
I also seen a quote which I guess shows there were issues on this past St John’s roster-

Rick Pitino: “I asked about the character of the basketball team. To be honest, I didn’t get glowing reports, but I did get a glowing report on Joel Soriano. We’re gonna bring him to a level he didn’t even think he could reach.”
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Post by: Chairman of the Board on March 21, 2023, 08:55:27 pm
maybe its because pitino is 70 with a six year contract and a full mandate from the university (?).  he's had a lot of success at many stops so he may be feeling good.  money isnt the issue.  i heard he's got a winged foot membership too. 

or maybe he's just being honest.  or maybe the university told him to get new players.  maybe he spoke to the team and realized many are already leaving?  obviously this is all conjecture!

they hit a home run with this, now all that's left to occur is the letdown.
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: guest410 on March 21, 2023, 08:35:49 pm
According to the sju fans and sources on the Twitter spaces, pitino will want to pick the players from the transfer portal, and possibly even have some players decommit from schools to come to sju. The current sju players will have an option to stay on the team of course, but playing time will become an issue for them.

Following up on this: https://www.foxnews.com/sports/rick-pitino-most-st-johns-players-wont-be-on-team-next-season

"The one thing I want to be honest with is a lot of the players probably won’t be back on this team because they’re probably not a good fit for me."

What a wild thing to come out and say.

But when Deion Sanders walks into the first meeting and tells the players to hit the portal because he's bringing his "luggage" with him from JSU it was okay? Not looking for a fight or anything, just seeking clarification.
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: Checkmate on March 21, 2023, 08:23:11 pm
According to the sju fans and sources on the Twitter spaces, pitino will want to pick the players from the transfer portal, and possibly even have some players decommit from schools to come to sju. The current sju players will have an option to stay on the team of course, but playing time will become an issue for them.

Following up on this: https://www.foxnews.com/sports/rick-pitino-most-st-johns-players-wont-be-on-team-next-season

"The one thing I want to be honest with is a lot of the players probably won’t be back on this team because they’re probably not a good fit for me."

What a wild thing to come out and say.
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Post by: Chairman of the Board on March 21, 2023, 01:18:22 pm
that was quick.  pitino to SJU, so tobin anderson goes to iona. https://nypost.com/2023/03/21/tobin-anderson-landing-iona-job-after-fdus-march-madness-run/
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Post by: Knicksbu99 on March 21, 2023, 11:56:48 am
I agree on Drissa Traore  i also would bet Policelli leaves and try to cash in on NIL or overseas. I think it would a smart move to try and go back to A10 like the Bonnies. Seen a lot of flame outs who try and transfer up. Best case if Policelli leaves he gets Traore to fill his spot as a starter.
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Post by: ibosbu on March 21, 2023, 11:05:29 am
Any chance of landing Beagle? It would be like Killing two birds in one stone.
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: Checkmate on March 21, 2023, 10:19:40 am
Of note: we need roster spots to get anybody and right now, by my calculation, we don't have any. That could all shift pretty quickly of course.

The last thing we need at the moment is another small guard – yes, I'd love to clear room for him. You also have to take the good with the bad with Curbelo. He cannot shoot and some of his turnovers are real head scratchers. But lots and lots of good too.

Of the LuHi guys, I think Traore is more realistic and a better fit.
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Post by: nyrfan1013 on March 21, 2023, 08:39:58 am
Curbelo to Hofstra would sting. TSM and Policelli were teammates of his. But i believe there are other Luhi Products on St Johns roster who should be targeted by SBU. Curbelo at Hofstra would be a problem in the CAA.

I actually just watched a YouTube of Curbelo and TSM practicing together.. seems like Frankie is tight with curbelo too.. would be a huge pick up, but just a dream.. I would love to get pinzon too, another luhi product lol.
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: Knicksbu99 on March 21, 2023, 07:29:45 am
Curbelo to Hofstra would sting. TSM and Policelli were teammates of his. But i believe there are other Luhi Products on St Johns roster who should be targeted by SBU. Curbelo at Hofstra would be a problem in the CAA.
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Post by: nyrfan1013 on March 21, 2023, 06:07:43 am
If I’m stony brook (and Hofstra) I’m looking at the whole st John’s roster right now.. with pitino going there I’m hearing a lot of the team will be leaving.. it seems like Andre curbelo (Illinois transfer, from Long Island) is sucking up to speedy.. he’s tweeting at Hofstra & speedy and liking their tweets.

I could see Hofstra getting a transfer, but not SBU. What has Geno done for anybody lately?? Nothing. He sucks as a HC, and players know this

This is true.. lol..
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Post by: Hammertime on March 21, 2023, 04:10:41 am
I got a like on Twitter out of Jamel Warney when I tagged his name about SBU desperately needing an HC, and that they need to hire Warney. This is the very first time Warney acknowledged anything associated with his name with coaching and coming back to SBU to coach. Maybe I am reading into this way too much. But it's a start and a spark. Maybe if people start throwing his name out there, the President will take notice.

Although it would be pretty cool to see Warney at SBU, I'd like him to get some coaching training somewhere first (can be at SBU as an assistant).  Just remember though, being a great player doesn't make you a great coach.  Ewing was a great player, and a great guy, and years after putting in his dues as an Assistant, he flopped big time at Georgetown.

I understand your point but there are many former NBA and professional coaches who are and have coached in college and did quite well. Speedy from  Hofstra is just one example of a recent hire in the CAA.

I think Warney would be great for recruiting, and bringing in some talented high school kids is something this school has not seen in a ver long time..
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: Hammertime on March 21, 2023, 03:59:08 am
If I’m stony brook (and Hofstra) I’m looking at the whole st John’s roster right now.. with pitino going there I’m hearing a lot of the team will be leaving.. it seems like Andre curbelo (Illinois transfer, from Long Island) is sucking up to speedy.. he’s tweeting at Hofstra & speedy and liking their tweets.

I could see Hofstra getting a transfer, but not SBU. What has Geno done for anybody lately?? Nothing. He sucks as a HC, and players know this
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: nyrfan1013 on March 20, 2023, 10:29:54 pm
According to the sju fans and sources on the Twitter spaces, pitino will want to pick the players from the transfer portal, and possibly even have some players decommit from schools to come to sju. The current sju players will have an option to stay on the team of course, but playing time will become an issue for them.
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: OldSeawolf on March 20, 2023, 10:09:04 pm
I know lots of the St Johns players were allegiant to Anderson, but why would you leave a program that now has one of the all-time premier college basketball coaches in Pitino. To go to SBU or Hofstra?? Pitino will have them back in the Tournament next year.


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Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: nyrfan1013 on March 20, 2023, 10:01:41 pm
If I’m stony brook (and Hofstra) I’m looking at the whole st John’s roster right now.. with pitino going there I’m hearing a lot of the team will be leaving.. it seems like Andre curbelo (Illinois transfer, from Long Island) is sucking up to speedy.. he’s tweeting at Hofstra & speedy and liking their tweets.
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: Chairman of the Board on March 20, 2023, 07:31:32 pm
st francis brooklyn drops all sports https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/35905916/st-francis-brooklyn-drop-ncaa-d-athletics-program
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: OldSeawolf on March 20, 2023, 04:37:11 pm
I got a like on Twitter out of Jamel Warney when I tagged his name about SBU desperately needing an HC, and that they need to hire Warney. This is the very first time Warney acknowledged anything associated with his name with coaching and coming back to SBU to coach. Maybe I am reading into this way too much. But it's a start and a spark. Maybe if people start throwing his name out there, the President will take notice.

Although it would be pretty cool to see Warney at SBU, I'd like him to get some coaching training somewhere first (can be at SBU as an assistant).  Just remember though, being a great player doesn't make you a great coach.  Ewing was a great player, and a great guy, and years after putting in his dues as an Assistant, he flopped big time at Georgetown.
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: Hammertime on March 20, 2023, 02:19:50 pm
I got a like on Twitter out of Jamel Warney when I tagged his name about SBU desperately needing an HC, and that they need to hire Warney. This is the very first time Warney acknowledged anything associated with his name with coaching and coming back to SBU to coach. Maybe I am reading into this way too much. But it's a start and a spark. Maybe if people start throwing his name out there, the President will take notice.
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: Checkmate on March 20, 2023, 01:31:21 pm
Notable transfers:

- Kam Woods and Duncan Powell out at A&T
- Raekwon Horton out at Charleston. He's from nearby Santee, SC, so I wonder what the rationale is. He played a prep year in Vermont so maybe Becker could swoop in?
- Myles Foster, Tahron Allen and Myles Ruth out at Monmouth. All solid role guys.
- 6-9/235 fr C Tyler Houser in at Delaware. He averaged 11 and 5 in his debut year at VMI, shooting 36 percent from three. A solid stretch 4.
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Post by: OldSeawolf on March 20, 2023, 10:03:23 am
actually i wasnt even commenting about threes... i just meant they move the ball well.  and so they do more with less (we do less with more).

which opens up the outside shot of course.  if youre on defense, would you rather the offense be predictable, or unpredictable?  8) 

obvious but not all attempts are equal.  there is situational awareness, who is shooting, is it contested, where on the floor is the attempt, shot clock, is anyone in the paint, what personnel are on the floor.  the stats dont tell that story.

Yeah, all true, and good points.  Sounds like an avenue for some additional in-depth Kenpom analysis.
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Post by: Chairman of the Board on March 20, 2023, 09:41:59 am
actually i wasnt even commenting about threes... i just meant they move the ball well.  and so they do more with less (we do less with more).

which opens up the outside shot of course.  if youre on defense, would you rather the offense be predictable, or unpredictable?  8) 

obvious but not all attempts are equal.  there is situational awareness, who is shooting, is it contested, where on the floor is the attempt, shot clock, is anyone in the paint, what personnel are on the floor.  the stats dont tell that story. 
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Post by: OldSeawolf on March 19, 2023, 09:41:12 am
anyone see princeton manhandle missouri from whistle to whistle on its way to the sweet 16?

passing.  that's all they did.  share the ball.  just like st. peter's last year.  or vermont every year.

Yeah, I agree, we're old school guys.  But the metrics say if you can shoot 33.33% from 3, it's the equivalent of shooting 50% from 2, in terms of total points.  Everyone tries to exceed that 33.33% threshold as a team.  Surprisingly, we shot 32.2% from 3 this year (seemed worse to me), which equates to 48.3% from 2, which isn't half bad.  With more 3's taken, we see more misses overall, which certainly gives the perception of worse shooting, choice of bad shots, etc.  The game has certainly changed over the years, for better or for worse.
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Post by: NJ Seawolf on March 18, 2023, 08:24:58 pm
There is definitely a role to be bombs away from downtown though as we saw from Charleston and Princeton (they took 34 threes and only hit 12 of them).
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: Chairman of the Board on March 18, 2023, 08:20:35 pm
anyone see princeton manhandle missouri from whistle to whistle on its way to the sweet 16?

passing.  that's all they did.  share the ball.  just like st. peter's last year.  or vermont every year. 
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Post by: Checkmate on March 18, 2023, 03:49:38 pm
Good get for Monmouth in the portal. Xander Rice, who led Bucknell in points and assists this year, joins a young team that showed some flashes in the second half and has everybody back.
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Post by: OldSeawolf on March 17, 2023, 10:41:17 am
Pretty cool for Hofstra to get a home game against Cincinnati in the NIT. Or it's at least a little cool. Based on ticket sales, it looks like they'll have a decent crowd too.

Also read that, after dropping 17 and 6 on the Lakers Anthony Lamb got bumped up to a full contract with the Warriors, which means he'll be on the playoff roster. He hit the max limit of 50 games for a two-way guy and got the backing of Kerr. Pretty awesome. Didn't see it coming.

Good for Hofstra.  Not sure how an 8 seed gets a home game though - I do remember SBU getting a home game against Illinois in NIT though, due to a concert conflict at Illinois.  Maybe the same here.

Amazed that Lamb has made it this far, due to his size and speed.  Good for him, but doesn't he still have those sexual allegations hanging over his head back in Vermont ???
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: Checkmate on March 16, 2023, 10:28:55 pm
Pretty cool for Hofstra to get a home game against Cincinnati in the NIT. Or it's at least a little cool. Based on ticket sales, it looks like they'll have a decent crowd too.

Also read that, after dropping 17 and 6 on the Lakers Anthony Lamb got bumped up to a full contract with the Warriors, which means he'll be on the playoff roster. He hit the max limit of 50 games for a two-way guy and got the backing of Kerr. Pretty awesome. Didn't see it coming.
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Post by: Accelerator on March 16, 2023, 08:12:45 pm
Charleston's rotation is also mostly made up of D2 and JUCO transfers, impressively.
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Post by: Hammertime on March 16, 2023, 07:33:01 pm
What a game

Great game, but my god, Charleston has forced so many threes in the second half. And not even ones that were right behind the arc; they're forcing ones from a few feet back. Despite that, they're still grinding away and down 3 with less than 20 seconds to go.

They couldn't really get anything inside either. But you're right. Larson did have two really bad misses – one he had to take that hit the side of the backboard, another at 53-53 that was so forced. Can't make five threes against that team.

I wish we could have seen them try to tie the game after the tough foul call on Scott.

SDSU defense prevented Charleston from scoring many points in the paint. However, they had no choice but to try and stay in the game with the three ball. They made this game competitive, with the top team in the Pack12 conference. Koodos to Charleston. They all plaid like a power 5 team instead of a mid-major team. This is something we never saw in the AE. Even though Vermont had a few years where they were excellent. Let's see if Charleston can continue next season where they left off.
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: Checkmate on March 16, 2023, 05:52:24 pm
What a game

Great game, but my god, Charleston has forced so many threes in the second half. And not even ones that were right behind the arc; they're forcing ones from a few feet back. Despite that, they're still grinding away and down 3 with less than 20 seconds to go.

They couldn't really get anything inside either. But you're right. Larson did have two really bad misses – one he had to take that hit the side of the backboard, another at 53-53 that was so forced. Can't make five threes against that team.

I wish we could have seen them try to tie the game after the tough foul call on Scott.
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Post by: guest410 on March 16, 2023, 05:37:16 pm
What a game

Great game, but my god, Charleston has forced so many threes in the second half. And not even ones that were right behind the arc; they're forcing ones from a few feet back. Despite that, they're still grinding away and down 3 with less than 20 seconds to go. 
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Post by: Hammertime on March 16, 2023, 05:30:19 pm
What a game
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Post by: Hammertime on March 16, 2023, 04:53:30 pm
I feel like SDSU is just going to play bully ball in this second half. 22-11 advantage on the glass.

I agree. SDSU players are just to big and physical. There defense is solid
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: Checkmate on March 16, 2023, 04:37:55 pm
I feel like SDSU is just going to play bully ball in this second half. 22-11 advantage on the glass.
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Post by: ibosbu on March 16, 2023, 03:55:23 pm
looks like furman has UVa on the ropes, late.

Furman wins with a wild ending…3 pointer with 2 seconds left.

If Charleston can beat SDST, they play Furman next. Great opportunity to reach Sweet Sixteen.
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Post by: Chairman of the Board on March 16, 2023, 02:41:30 pm
looks like furman has UVa on the ropes, late.
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: ibosbu on March 16, 2023, 02:07:13 pm
I’m definitely rooting against. Can’t stand their fans. And the how the school swept the Lamb case under the rug.
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: Checkmate on March 16, 2023, 10:54:33 am
Vermont's just a 10.5 point dog in their 2-15 matchup against Marquette, by far the slimmest margin for those games. The 2-15 lines in general are pretty tight, but we've also seen 2s go down in the first round in each of the past two years.

Do we root for or against Vermont?
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: Knicksbu99 on March 15, 2023, 06:40:48 pm
Wish we finished them off at our place this year.
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: Accelerator on March 15, 2023, 12:39:08 pm
That was good for the CAA, but terrible for Stony Brook morale by reinforcing how Hofstra eats our lunch at everything we do
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: OldSeawolf on March 15, 2023, 11:49:15 am
Pikiell does a lot of things right, but still has problems finishing big games, and his teams historically are poor free throw shooters.
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: ibosbu on March 15, 2023, 11:42:05 am
https://youtube.com/watch?v=FRCVI_FkH2M&si=EnSIkaIECMiOmarE

Pikiell and the players were quite emotional. I like the great relationship between the coach and the players. He was great with the players at Stony Brook too.
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: ibosbu on March 15, 2023, 11:07:31 am
Also I love Pikiell. Runs a great program. Recruits well. His team plays hard and efficient. But I think his end game tactics are still lacking in big games.
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: ibosbu on March 15, 2023, 11:05:22 am
I am rooting for Hofstra. Hope they can make a run in the NIT. It will be a boost for CAA. Also hopefully will create some buzz on Long Island. Which I am hoping will have some trickle down effect on Stony Brook Basketball; both being in the same conference and in close proximity.
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: OldSeawolf on March 14, 2023, 09:11:50 pm
Amazing Hofstra win over Rutgers, with Hofstra surviving Estrada fouling out with like 7 mins left in regulation. Refs were not kind to Hofstra, but they persevered. Amazing back and forth in OT, with Rutgers missing the final shot.


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Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: Hammertime on March 14, 2023, 09:11:20 pm
Hofstra playing Rutgers tight in the NIT. These players are so far ahead of SBU. And Hofstra coach, Speedy Clayton, is a class act and is quickly becoming highly respected. Good game at the half…

What a **** game. I'd love to see a seven-game series between these teams.

Holy $hit. Hofstra pulls the upset. What a team. I hope they win it all
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: guest410 on March 14, 2023, 08:56:41 pm
Hofstra playing Rutgers tight in the NIT. These players are so far ahead of SBU. And Hofstra coach, Speedy Clayton, is a class act and is quickly becoming highly respected. Good game at the half…

What a **** game. I'd love to see a seven-game series between these teams.
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: Hammertime on March 14, 2023, 07:52:51 pm
Hofstra playing Rutgers tight in the NIT. These players are so far ahead of SBU. And Hofstra coach, Speedy Clayton, is a class act and is quickly becoming highly respected. Good game at the half…
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: Checkmate on March 14, 2023, 03:55:51 pm
I was surprised to see that we didn't have anybody in the CBI. I know it seems silly to talk about a third-rate tournament, but it got me wondering if teams didn't accept invitations because players didn't want to get hurt in advance of entering the transfer portal, or have a short roster for multiple games because of the portal. Other elements: it costs money, there isn't much to gain, etc., but maintaining your health could be a reason too.

Hofstra beating Rutgers would be a nice way to punctuate the CAA's season. It'll be tough though.
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: guest410 on March 14, 2023, 11:44:40 am
Jameer Nelson Jr. to the transfer portal. Big loss for Delaware.

Also, I read that Caroline McCombs got a second interview for the coaching vacancy at Pitt.

Good for McCombs. She's worked hard to get here, and seeing her become a HC in the ACC would be nice.

https://pittsburghsportsnow.com/2023/03/14/pitt-womens-basketball-coaching-search-update/
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: OldSeawolf on March 14, 2023, 10:16:07 am
Jameer Nelson Jr. to the transfer portal. Big loss for Delaware.

Also, I read that Caroline McCombs got a second interview for the coaching vacancy at Pitt.

Not surprised with Nelson.  He's really good, and has his father's name going for him.  TBH, I was surprised he was playing for Delaware.
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: Checkmate on March 14, 2023, 10:13:43 am
Jameer Nelson Jr. to the transfer portal. Big loss for Delaware.

Also, I read that Caroline McCombs got a second interview for the coaching vacancy at Pitt.
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: Checkmate on March 13, 2023, 07:39:05 am
Hofstra at Rutgers in the first round of the NIT tomorrow night. Let’s see where Rutgers’ energy is at after not seeing their name called yesterday. That’s always a wild card in the NIT.

No CBI representation for the CAA.

More movement in the transfer portal: Jamarii Thomas is out at UNCW. I like his game. It should be a busy week on a portal so we'll have to keep an eye on it. One name that jumped out at me was Andre Snoddy, a kid from Melville who averaged 9.5 points and 8.4 boards at Central Connecticut State. What's interesting is he entered the portal last year but returned to CCSU. I was disappointed to see that he didn't make any of the NEC teams with those numbers, but I think he could help in an Omar Habwe kind of way here. Before dismissing the school, consider the schools that Charleston drew players from. It's this big puzzle and we have two guys between 6-4 and 6-10 (and I have no idea how many roster spots ... but we have a lot of small guards and non-rebounding bigs!).
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: Hammertime on March 13, 2023, 07:37:10 am
Year 2030… Hammertime is extremely frustrated with Stony Brook athletics and solemnly declares for the 478th time “I am done with SBU athletics.”

Keep cheering for your Seawolves, pal. Maybe in 2030, your boy Chucky cheese will make the first round of the FCS playoffs against Wofford, or Sacred Heart. And Maybe Geno Ford goes 500 in the CAA!!!

I will be keep cheering for my Seawolves even if they are lost cause.

I said it in a jest… but despite all your negativity towards this program, I think deep down you probably have a soft spot for the Seawolves. So if you are still around by 2030, I hope, instead of disparaging the program, you get to root for a team that is CAA champions multiple times in both bball and fb.

And yes I am very much in the camp of Let’s Fire both Priore and Ford asap. I just don’t think they are anything special. Priore is an NEC level coach and I just can’t stand his playing style. We play the most boring predictable archaic passive football in CAA. Priore will likely go 1-7/2-6 in CAA again this year. Geno is a sub .500 mid-major coach like you said and I got super excited by the fake news of his firing.

But as a fan, when the teams are back on the turf/court, I will be keep cheering for them to win each and every single game. Now that it seems like we are stuck with Geno for another year, I will be rooting for the boys to win the CAA next season and make it to the tourney. If that means more years of Geno be it. On the other hand, I suspect, you would rather see the Team go winless next season under Geno.

See, here's the problem with this athletic program. They really don't care if you cheer them on to win or lose. They really don't care if they win or lose. The athletic administration has a state budget that must be within its means, with or without season ticket holders, or just fans buying tickets or not. And that is my gripe with SBU.

As I said in the past. I am only here for their sports program, nothing else. I did not attend SBU but my senior son is graduating this May, so. There might be a little connection there, considering my tuition money goes to SBU, but that's okay. I have no qualms with their academic program because I know SBU is a highly respected program for that. In medicine and STEM studies that is.

This athletic program is very okay with losing every game in ALL sports. it doesn't matter. Coaches don't get fired. AD can just spew his weekly talking points and excite the Presidents and State with nonsense talk. Nothing matters in sports here, nothing... Why are some people still cheering on SBU football and basketball? Most likely because they are family and friends of players. Or like me who lives around the corner from the university, just something to do. But how much more are fans supposed to sit back spend money on tickets, donate money, and watch their local college sports program fail with no plan to change, and get better? Not me or dozens of other season ticket holders I know and have spoken to over the years, hence. The pathetic attendance at all of the sporting events lately.

If and when SBU changes its tune, and cleans house. Then I will come back, but I can't keep supporting a program that sticks its middle fingers up at donors and fans. And yes, Priore did give me the middle finger on a televised game years ago. He is a real POS. But Hey.. This is what SBU likes. Go WOKE, go broke and this athletic dept needs to go broke, but they never will because of taxpayers' money..... Oh, and yes. I hope Chucky Cheese loses every game this coming football season. The same with Geno Ford.
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: ibosbu on March 12, 2023, 11:40:27 pm
A10 with one bid VCU seed 12.
CAA with one bid Charleston seed 12.

Every year, A10 is becoming less attractive. Doesn’t look that ahead of CAA. With right circumstances, I can see CAA getting two bids in future.
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: ibosbu on March 12, 2023, 11:30:30 pm
Year 2030… Hammertime is extremely frustrated with Stony Brook athletics and solemnly declares for the 478th time “I am done with SBU athletics.”

Keep cheering for your Seawolves, pal. Maybe in 2030, your boy Chucky cheese will make the first round of the FCS playoffs against Wofford, or Sacred Heart. And Maybe Geno Ford goes 500 in the CAA!!!

I will be keep cheering for my Seawolves even if they are lost cause.

I said it in a jest… but despite all your negativity towards this program, I think deep down you probably have a soft spot for the Seawolves. So if you are still around by 2030, I hope, instead of disparaging the program, you get to root for a team that is CAA champions multiple times in both bball and fb.

And yes I am very much in the camp of Let’s Fire both Priore and Ford asap. I just don’t think they are anything special. Priore is an NEC level coach and I just can’t stand his playing style. We play the most boring predictable archaic passive football in CAA. Priore will likely go 1-7/2-6 in CAA again this year. Geno is a sub .500 mid-major coach like you said and I got super excited by the fake news of his firing.

But as a fan, when the teams are back on the turf/court, I will be keep cheering for them to win each and every single game. Now that it seems like we are stuck with Geno for another year, I will be rooting for the boys to win the CAA next season and make it to the tourney. If that means more years of Geno be it. On the other hand, I suspect, you would rather see the Team go winless next season under Geno.
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: Hammertime on March 12, 2023, 06:44:41 pm
Vermont 12 seed against Marquette 2 seed.  Vermont clearly got screwed. Wow!!!
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: Hammertime on March 12, 2023, 06:39:11 pm
Charelston is a 12 seed. I don't know much about the AE, so I'm curious if this is the highest ever seed for a team in an SBU conference, or has there been higher.

I thought Vermont was a 11th seed against Syracuse and won the first round. But I could be wrong. This was a long time ago..
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: Hammertime on March 12, 2023, 06:28:17 pm
Year 2030… Hammertime is extremely frustrated with Stony Brook athletics and solemnly declares for the 478th time “I am done with SBU athletics.”

Keep cheering for your Seawolves, pal. Maybe in 2030, your boy Chucky cheese will make the first round of the FCS playoffs against Wofford, or Sacred Heart. And Maybe Geno Ford goes 500 in the CAA!!!
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: guest410 on March 12, 2023, 06:21:38 pm
Charelston is a 12 seed. I don't know much about the AE, so I'm curious if this is the highest ever seed for a team in an SBU conference, or has there been higher.
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: ry1nik on March 12, 2023, 02:59:54 pm
It doesn’t help that the lone bright spot (women’s lacrosse) took a drubbing at Northwestern. One loss like that won’t ruin all hope for a Final Four appearance but they can’t afford another like that.
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: VA_Seawolf on March 12, 2023, 01:23:29 pm
Year 2030… Hammertime is extremely frustrated with Stony Brook athletics and solemnly declares for the 478th time “I am done with SBU athletics.”

I'm assuming this is satire, but the only thing worse for an athletic program than frustrated fans is apathetic fans. With how bad things have been going, SBU is lucky there are still fans who care at all...
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: ibosbu on March 12, 2023, 11:49:52 am
Year 2030… Hammertime is extremely frustrated with Stony Brook athletics and solemnly declares for the 478th time “I am done with SBU athletics.”
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: Hammertime on March 12, 2023, 06:55:58 am
Buffalo fires Jim Whitesell after 4 years; 70-49 overall and 45-27 in the MAC, but went one and done in 3 of his 4 years. That's a New York school that at least knows they can't take mediocrity.

One more reason why I am done with SBU athletics. UB HC contract is being bought out because of this firing. He is set to receive $500,000 as a parting gift. Geno Ford has one more year left on his contract, but Heilbron won't let him go because SBU can't afford to pay out his remaining contract??

https://buffalonews.com/sports/college/ub-mens-basketball-coach-jim-whitesell-out-after-four-seasons/article_d7489c14-c01b-11ed-8605-fb6479a3ae52.html
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: Accelerator on March 11, 2023, 05:38:03 pm
Buffalo fires Jim Whitesell after 4 years; 70-49 overall and 45-27 in the MAC, but went one and done in 3 of his 4 years. That's a New York school that at least knows they can't take mediocrity.
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: guest410 on March 11, 2023, 12:50:26 pm
Barring a collapse, Vermont is going dancing again. They're up nine with under four minutes left in the game.
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: Checkmate on March 10, 2023, 09:53:56 am
Two pretty big losses for W&M in Wight – their second leading scorer and rebounder – and Ayesa, who made 19 threes in their last four games.

It was nice to see Tykei on the big stage last night, albeit minimally and in a losing effort. He'll be in the tournament next week. Glad somebody's getting there.

Most bracketologists have Charleston on the 12 line, with some at 11 and 13. If a team is at one point ranked, loses a couple games two months ago and wins out, does that really drop them to 45-55? Rankings are so backward.
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: Checkmate on March 08, 2023, 03:10:31 pm
CAA first teamer will test the waters.

https://twitter.com/portal_updates/status/1633559192102469633?s=20

He'll land somewhere good. One of many many graduates who may want to see what's out there with their remaining year(s) of eligibility.
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: OldSeawolf on March 07, 2023, 09:37:23 pm
Somehow they found a way to win the last 2 nights after trailing late in both. Larson was amazing tn. Hope they can do some damage in the Tourney.


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Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: Hammertime on March 07, 2023, 09:25:11 pm
What a fun game to watch. Good luck in the NCAA Charleston. You deserve it
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: Hammertime on March 07, 2023, 09:24:09 pm
Best newcomer team with a skeleton crew roster. We will be a top 5/6 team yearly book it.

I doubt that!!
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: sbupatriots on March 07, 2023, 09:22:38 pm
Congrats to Charleston, well earned. Will be very fun to watch in the tourny.
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: Checkmate on March 07, 2023, 09:20:46 pm
I can’t remember admiring a player’s game more than I do Ryan Larson’s. The kid is just everywhere. I’m psyched that Charleston will be representing the CAA. We have a lot of work to do to overtake them and others.
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: guest441 on March 07, 2023, 05:30:03 pm
Best newcomer team with a skeleton crew roster. We will be a top 5/6 team yearly book it.

Id like to agree with you but that wont happen with Geno as hc and not with Heilbron as ad.
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: NJ Seawolf on March 07, 2023, 05:27:00 pm
Campbell isn’t a bad team- solid hoops team and a football team on the rise. Hampton had a rough year in both sports. Again compare those to Bingo/Maine/etc and I’m much happier where we are at.
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: Knicksbu99 on March 07, 2023, 05:08:02 pm
Best newcomer team with a skeleton crew roster. We will be a top 5/6 team yearly book it.
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: Checkmate on March 07, 2023, 04:49:36 pm
Just wish we hadn't added Hampton and Campbell. Not sure how those two schools help.

Hampton and Campbell fans: "I just wish we hadn't added Stony Brook. Not sure how that helps."
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: sbupatriots on March 07, 2023, 03:23:26 pm
Just wish we hadn't added Hampton and Campbell. Not sure how those two schools help.
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: NJ Seawolf on March 07, 2023, 12:53:50 pm
CAA is still way better than the AE

UNCW, CoC, Hofstra, Towson would probably all be ahead of Vermont. The quality of basketball isn’t comparable. The bottom of the conference did drag CAA down but those teams have potential.
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: Knicksbu99 on March 07, 2023, 09:55:50 am
Kelsey should give his tournament bonus to the refs got a very favorable whistle.
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: OldSeawolf on March 07, 2023, 06:20:17 am
Absolute heart-stopping night of basketball in the CAA. Charleston/Towson was like a steel cage match. Towson fans may raise hell about the free throw totals.

Yeah, I’m glad we made the move.

Yeah, those were 2 amazing games!  CoC/Towson was one of the most physical bball games I've seen in a long while.
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: Checkmate on March 06, 2023, 11:27:47 pm
Absolute heart-stopping night of basketball in the CAA. Charleston/Towson was like a steel cage match. Towson fans may raise hell about the free throw totals.

Yeah, I’m glad we made the move.
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: sbupatriots on March 06, 2023, 10:29:09 pm
We Love UNCW!!! Go Seahawks!!
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: VA_Seawolf on March 06, 2023, 08:57:14 pm
I tuned in for the final two minutes of regulation and all of OT. Lovely to see Hofstra lose to UNCW!!
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: Checkmate on February 25, 2023, 09:18:04 pm
Wilmington scores two points in the final 11 minutes to cough up the three seed. 19-2 run for Towson.
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: ry1nik on February 10, 2023, 06:20:56 pm
Kenpom imo is wildly overrated.

I have also pondered its legitimacy before, but concluded that there's a lot to it. But then you look at the Vegas spreads and they're almost in lockstep with KenPom. I also like how it breaks the game down further than just FG%, points, etc. The most noticeable flaw is that, with its predictions, it's all data driven and doesn't take injuries into account.
This is why I like Sagarin ratings. One of the three ratings is based on “Recency,” which indirectly takes injuries into account
http://sagarin.com/sports/cbsend.htm
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: Accelerator on February 10, 2023, 11:18:53 am
My biggest problem with KenPom is how much it takes into account last year's data as the starting point for the rankings when there's so much turnover in CBB now.
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: Checkmate on February 10, 2023, 09:29:05 am
Kenpom imo is wildly overrated.

I have also pondered its legitimacy before, but concluded that there's a lot to it. But then you look at the Vegas spreads and they're almost in lockstep with KenPom. I also like how it breaks the game down further than just FG%, points, etc. The most noticeable flaw is that, with its predictions, it's all data driven and doesn't take injuries into account.
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: Chairman of the Board on February 10, 2023, 08:28:12 am
im not too worried about it as it's a point in time and can change.

however, i dont think we'd be in the top half of the AE right now.  you think this team could beat bingo?  unh?
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: ecasadoSBU on February 10, 2023, 01:52:05 am
Warren Nolan NET Conference Rankings


24. America East
25. CAA

This has to be a nightmare
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: guest441 on February 09, 2023, 07:27:30 pm
Kenpom imo is wildly overrated.

Wildly overated?
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: Knicksbu99 on February 09, 2023, 04:53:09 pm
Not disputing the newcomers have been bad us included. I think this season is an outlier would finish if fully healthy most likely top half. Think its tough to compare a league with 9 teams total to 13 where the bottom 8 or so have cannibalized each other. Along with the fact the top of the CAA would probably blow the top of the America east out of the water.
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: Hammertime on February 09, 2023, 04:29:45 pm
Kenpom imo is wildly overrated.

Why do you say that? The CAA is horrible this year. Thanks partly due to the newcomers stinking the house up
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: Knicksbu99 on February 09, 2023, 03:18:08 pm
Kenpom imo is wildly overrated.
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: Checkmate on February 09, 2023, 02:56:57 pm
The day has come. The CAA has fallen behind the AE in conference rankings per KenPom. Seven teams at 287 or worse.
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: seawolfemeritus on February 09, 2023, 09:39:04 am
I dont see jameel coming any where near sbu while hielbron is here. Heilbron blew it when he didnt hire Jay Young. I would rather have a young assistant who has the energy that Pikiel brought to sbu when he built the program. the two head coaches of sbu football and basketball avoid our fan base and have no connection to the community and it shows.

I know nothing about Jay or his connection to the community, and I would have supported hiring him a few years ago, but just looking at results, he took over a Fairfield program that finished at .500 or above in conference six times in the 2010s and made six postseason tournaments. Jay's teams were under .500 in each of his first three seasons and they're under .500 now. Geno's been over .500 twice. That said, I feel like we've seen bad basketball under Geno (better this year), whereas Fairfield plays boring basketball.

Jameel's not coming anywhere near SBU because it would be  i n s a n e  to hire him as a head coach at this point in his life. Maybe someday though.
Jay inherited a disaster from Sydney Johnson, and his first 3 years were spent with cardboard cutouts (covid) and playing in the Bridgeport mausoleum. This is his first year in an actual home arena (same for some of the players). There's another SBU HOF'er who actually has been coaching. Pikiell brought Bryan Dougher back as an assistant, was part of the staff with Jameel's NCAA team, then he brought him to Rutgers, and now he's with Jay at Fairfield.
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: ibosbu on February 09, 2023, 01:51:32 am
https://twitter.com/jakeshindel/status/1623418291644407812?s=46&t=2DGx70GU49dxYukeXXgLww
CAA Commissioner Joe D’Antonio is holding a press conference tomorrow to discuss the conference’s media rights agreements. Will update after it ends.

I hope this is the end of Flo. But likely another extension.
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: guest410 on February 08, 2023, 08:20:08 pm
So tonight Vermont-Maine game is in the midst of a delay as Maine tries to rebuild the court, I **** you not. The baseline was clearly not in a straight line so they started to take apart the court and piece it back together.

https://twitter.com/TheFieldOf68/status/1623486852475809792?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: Hammertime on January 20, 2023, 03:37:01 pm
Warney would need some experience coaching first i’d imagine. Not sure why some think he would be a great recruiter he’s not a high profile player like deion sanders. Geno has had the misfortune of some exogenous forces postseason ban and unreal injury luck. But he’s a mediocre to slightly above coach not gonna take Stony brook to the next level I assume he just runs out his contract and they part ways and the AD goes after a power 5 assistant. Geno’s problem to me hasn’t really been recruiting its been the play style. There are two all league Point guards on the bench. Having even one the season is vastly different.

Dont forget about 90% of his players leaving the team last year.

Geno is not a good coach. His record over his coaching career proves that. I do believe Warney, if given a chance, would be much better at recruiting than Ford. Warney now has NBA experience and he does have the backing of other coaches in the league.
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: Hammertime on January 20, 2023, 03:33:00 pm
Warney would need some experience coaching first i’d imagine. Not sure why some think he would be a great recruiter he’s not a high profile player like deion sanders. Geno has had the misfortune of some exogenous forces postseason ban and unreal injury luck. But he’s a mediocre to slightly above coach not gonna take Stony brook to the next level I assume he just runs out his contract and they part ways and the AD goes after a power 5 assistant. Geno’s problem to me hasn’t really been recruiting its been the play style. There are two all league Point guards on the bench. Having even one the season is vastly different.

I agree. Warney would no doubt need some coaching experience first. Maybe an assistant under his old coach. Pikel. Then make that jump to HC at SBU.
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: Knicksbu99 on January 20, 2023, 01:32:09 pm
Warney would need some experience coaching first i’d imagine. Not sure why some think he would be a great recruiter he’s not a high profile player like deion sanders. Geno has had the misfortune of some exogenous forces postseason ban and unreal injury luck. But he’s a mediocre to slightly above coach not gonna take Stony brook to the next level I assume he just runs out his contract and they part ways and the AD goes after a power 5 assistant. Geno’s problem to me hasn’t really been recruiting its been the play style. There are two all league Point guards on the bench. Having even one the season is vastly different.
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: Checkmate on January 20, 2023, 11:19:26 am
I dont see jameel coming any where near sbu while hielbron is here. Heilbron blew it when he didnt hire Jay Young. I would rather have a young assistant who has the energy that Pikiel brought to sbu when he built the program. the two head coaches of sbu football and basketball avoid our fan base and have no connection to the community and it shows.

I know nothing about Jay or his connection to the community, and I would have supported hiring him a few years ago, but just looking at results, he took over a Fairfield program that finished at .500 or above in conference six times in the 2010s and made six postseason tournaments. Jay's teams were under .500 in each of his first three seasons and they're under .500 now. Geno's been over .500 twice. That said, I feel like we've seen bad basketball under Geno (better this year), whereas Fairfield plays boring basketball.

Jameel's not coming anywhere near SBU because it would be  i n s a n e  to hire him as a head coach at this point in his life. Maybe someday though.
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: guest441 on January 20, 2023, 10:15:51 am
I dont see jameel coming any where near sbu while hielbron is here. Heilbron blew it when he didnt hire Jay Young. I would rather have a young assistant who has the energy that Pikiel brought to sbu when he built the program. the two head coaches of sbu football and basketball avoid our fan base and have no connection to the community and it shows.
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: Chairman of the Board on January 19, 2023, 05:35:52 pm
this was alluded to above but i dont think the contention is how well he'd do.

the issue is that all coaches have a bad season here and there- sometimes two consecutive- even belichick, saban, virtually no one is immune.

thus, when that happens, especially given today's world of coaches having very short leashes and seats get warm quickly- then he's out.

and then youre in a situation where you've just fired your all time best player, and it cost a lot of money to both hire and fire, and then find someone new.  and that's his legacy.  not winning the first/only AE title with 43 points in 40 minutes. 
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: Hammertime on January 19, 2023, 04:25:23 pm
Someone needs to explain to me what makes a former player with no coaching experience whatsoever a suitable candidate for a mid-major head coaching position. To boot, he's 29, but let's leave age out of it in favor of credentials. Absolute legend here but come on. You can't draw the comparison to Ewing because he coached in the NBA for 15 years (but has, yes, been a disaster there). Juwan Howard, Jerry Stackhouse, Damon Stoudamire, they all put in a lot of time before getting a chance. Chris Mullin is a better analogy and he was an unmitigated disaster at St. John's. Just one example, but I'd be surprised if there were many/any wild success stories with coaches who hadn't put in the time. And maybe Warney does that, but that's a loooong way away.

I'm not sure if using Deon Sanders as an example is a good example, but I'll give it a shot anyways. Prime only coaching experience he ever had was in High School. But because of his celebrity status and his amazing time playing in the NFL as arguably the best CB who ever played the sport, turned out to be pretty good for JSU. He was able to bring in top 4 and 5 star players to transfer to JSU or recruit out of high school. Now that Prime is with Colorado, he appears to be doing the same thing.

Would Warney be another Deon Sanders? I don't know but I'm willing to put my money on it that he would fill seats and bring in better players than Geno Ford could ever bring in. Prove me wrong...
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: Hammertime on January 19, 2023, 01:57:22 pm
Hiring the star player to come back as head coach doesn't always work. Look at Ewing at Georgetown right now, that's a disaster that will end up with some terribly burned bridges at the end of it.

You really can’t compare the NBA to a mid major school. Warney would bring in better players to SBU then Ford can, by far.

Warney of course will need to learn how to be a HC first, before he can coach. But I do believe he would do great in recruiting
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: guest410 on January 19, 2023, 10:11:15 am
Hiring the star player to come back as head coach doesn't always work. Look at Ewing at Georgetown right now, that's a disaster that will end up with some terribly burned bridges at the end of it.

My favorite part of this is Jeff Goodman tweeting after every Georgetown loss to a high-major or Big-East foe.
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: Checkmate on January 19, 2023, 09:36:48 am
Someone needs to explain to me what makes a former player with no coaching experience whatsoever a suitable candidate for a mid-major head coaching position. To boot, he's 29, but let's leave age out of it in favor of credentials. Absolute legend here but come on. You can't draw the comparison to Ewing because he coached in the NBA for 15 years (but has, yes, been a disaster there). Juwan Howard, Jerry Stackhouse, Damon Stoudamire, they all put in a lot of time before getting a chance. Chris Mullin is a better analogy and he was an unmitigated disaster at St. John's. Just one example, but I'd be surprised if there were many/any wild success stories with coaches who hadn't put in the time. And maybe Warney does that, but that's a loooong way away.
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: Accelerator on January 19, 2023, 02:52:41 am
Hiring the star player to come back as head coach doesn't always work. Look at Ewing at Georgetown right now, that's a disaster that will end up with some terribly burned bridges at the end of it.
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: sbu1991 on January 18, 2023, 11:44:31 pm
he has, and, when you consider the adversity, it's a great job he's done. 

maybe even if the season ended today.

so let's see what the next 6 weeks looks like but he certainly has outpaced expectations by doing more with less.

We'll see how well Ford adjusts to the adjustments.
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: Chairman of the Board on January 18, 2023, 11:18:57 pm
he has, and, when you consider the adversity, it's a great job he's done. 

maybe even if the season ended today.

so let's see what the next 6 weeks looks like but he certainly has outpaced expectations by doing more with less.
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: sbu1991 on January 18, 2023, 11:02:34 pm
We need something like this for when Elon shows up and they'll wonder what the hell we have against them.

https://twitter.com/JomboyMedia/status/1615827534624481280?s=20&t=xxmeRYQUCPCn7FXnbH6k5g

The only way SBU ever will see something like that again is if Warney becomes the HC

Last I checked Warney was playing well in Korea. He would be a great candidate for the next BB HC, tho, I think Ford has done a good job this year.
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: Hammertime on January 18, 2023, 06:42:31 pm
We need something like this for when Elon shows up and they'll wonder what the hell we have against them.

https://twitter.com/JomboyMedia/status/1615827534624481280?s=20&t=xxmeRYQUCPCn7FXnbH6k5g

The only way SBU ever will see something like that again is if Warney becomes the HC
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: Checkmate on January 18, 2023, 04:51:21 pm
We need something like this for when Elon shows up and they'll wonder what the hell we have against them.

https://twitter.com/JomboyMedia/status/1615827534624481280?s=20&t=xxmeRYQUCPCn7FXnbH6k5g
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: Hammertime on January 18, 2023, 01:13:44 pm
https://twitter.com/tceonsgpn/status/1615549726119854080?s=46&t=4HlxRE-ucQdJnE418_uxAQ

This is what real student sections do

The sad thing is. If we had a real Athletic Director like Mat Larson, who SBU lost and went to NDSU. SBU could easily have a student section like that. But this school decided to go in a very different direction.
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: Accelerator on January 17, 2023, 11:38:03 pm
https://twitter.com/tceonsgpn/status/1615549726119854080?s=46&t=4HlxRE-ucQdJnE418_uxAQ

This is what real student sections do
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: Chairman of the Board on January 17, 2023, 09:20:37 pm
regardless of where you stand on the debate, the CAA is currently 0 for 14 against the AP top 25.  not that we normally win those games, and we all know CoC is in the top 25, and probably UNCW is pretty good.  hof and towson might be right behind.  maybe its just good for now that we even play top 25s as it helps with RPI/SoS. https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/standings/_/group/10

as for the bottom, yes, if you trust kenpon, we have 3 teams in the bottom 17, out of 363 teams.  they're combined 6-49. https://kenpom.com/index.php
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: guest441 on January 17, 2023, 03:52:37 pm
Heilbrons depatrtment is loaded with state employees collecting checks. thats it. thats why it is the way it is. Its a long way from what Jim Fiore did and brought to that department. he did not accept people not doing theyre jobs. It all goes back to Shawn Heilbron.
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: Checkmate on January 17, 2023, 03:47:59 pm
Electric atmosphere in Wilmington tonight. Bodies flying everywhere. Not an everyday thing for sure, but UNCW really filled the gym for this one.

UNCW coach’s halftime interview on the court. “We’re not tough enough. We’re way too soft. We’re not tough enough.”

And he walks off. Tirade incoming.

Trask colisuem has been voted as the toughest place to play in the CAA for quite some time.  Holds about 5,200 and the entire bleachers section behind the benches is for students, except a small section for opposing players parents. We allow about 1,200 students and put a couple hundred upstairs in the corner behind the bleachers when the bleachers are full.  It can get incredibly loud in there since there isn't a lot of room between the court and where the fans sit.  Trask was built in the 70's when UNCW had less than 4k students, we're at 18k now so we usually have a decent crowd with about 3-4 sellouts per year.  We usually lead the CAA in attendance but CofC has us this year with their success.

Curious about your arena size, student seating, past history of attendance, etc.  Some of our northern school have a hard time getting even a decent attendance with Northeastern being the worst by far.  Although it looks like Hampton is getting nobody or just isn't reporting attendace since they who about 100 per game so far.

Nobody answered so here goes.

Island Federal holds 4,160 people, and I would say we're between 1,500 and 2,500 most nights, mostly on the higher side. Anything over 2,500 is a strong showing. We averaged over 2,700 per game for a few seasons a few years ago. It hasn't been stuffed to the gills since the 2016 America East title game I want to say.

Without having traveled to any games elsewhere recently, I would go out on a limb and call it a beautiful arena. However, I wouldn't necessarily call it a tough place to play. The student section is very tame by college basketball standards. They occupy just one end zone and, no matter the showing, aren't going to ride anybody on the opposing team and are rarely/never on their feet. I can't recall a single "bull$hit" chant, which I loathe loathe loathe with kids in the crowd but definitely would have said that and worse as a student myself. I think the community members who go are pretty invested and will cheer, but you can ask 100 people in our area who won last night's game, or when the next game was, or who the best player was and 95 would shrug. It is not a sports town. I think people are too invested in the Giants, Jets, Islanders, Mets, Yankees, maybe the Knicks, to give Stony Brook much of a look (fools!).

I'm interested to see if anything changes with the change in conference. I say minor if at all at least for the short term.

What does everyone else think?

Have to take some offense to this. Was a student from 2012-16 and it got pretty personal against AE opponents. We knew every coach and player and used plenty of profanity. I can remember especially riding Bill Herrion over the years. I think we had a top 2 and maybe even the top student section in the AE. Granted the AE didnt have great fan support and those were probably the best years for MBB. I think if we can get some continuity in terms of players and more winning we can be a top 3 fan support school in the CAA behind UNCW and CoC. It mattered that by 15-16 we knew Jameel and Puriefoy on a more personal level and you as a student were going to support them as much as people as players.

From where I was sitting, I don't recall it getting especially boisterous/contentious on a regular basis, but you were in the thick of it and lived it so I believe you. I could see the students getting after the Duncans. I do recall the HUCK FARTFORD fans one time. That's the kind of effort we need. When an opposing player's at the FT line, somebody should hold up a poster of a photo from their/their girlfriend's/their mom's Instagram just to divert their eye/attention. I'm not sure the administration would allow it for long though. Too buttoned-up.

Agreed on the need for continuity. I'm hoping that ship hasn't completely sailed.
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: sbupatriots on January 17, 2023, 03:31:50 pm
Electric atmosphere in Wilmington tonight. Bodies flying everywhere. Not an everyday thing for sure, but UNCW really filled the gym for this one.

UNCW coach’s halftime interview on the court. “We’re not tough enough. We’re way too soft. We’re not tough enough.”

And he walks off. Tirade incoming.

Trask colisuem has been voted as the toughest place to play in the CAA for quite some time.  Holds about 5,200 and the entire bleachers section behind the benches is for students, except a small section for opposing players parents. We allow about 1,200 students and put a couple hundred upstairs in the corner behind the bleachers when the bleachers are full.  It can get incredibly loud in there since there isn't a lot of room between the court and where the fans sit.  Trask was built in the 70's when UNCW had less than 4k students, we're at 18k now so we usually have a decent crowd with about 3-4 sellouts per year.  We usually lead the CAA in attendance but CofC has us this year with their success.

Curious about your arena size, student seating, past history of attendance, etc.  Some of our northern school have a hard time getting even a decent attendance with Northeastern being the worst by far.  Although it looks like Hampton is getting nobody or just isn't reporting attendace since they who about 100 per game so far.

Nobody answered so here goes.

Island Federal holds 4,160 people, and I would say we're between 1,500 and 2,500 most nights, mostly on the higher side. Anything over 2,500 is a strong showing. We averaged over 2,700 per game for a few seasons a few years ago. It hasn't been stuffed to the gills since the 2016 America East title game I want to say.

Without having traveled to any games elsewhere recently, I would go out on a limb and call it a beautiful arena. However, I wouldn't necessarily call it a tough place to play. The student section is very tame by college basketball standards. They occupy just one end zone and, no matter the showing, aren't going to ride anybody on the opposing team and are rarely/never on their feet. I can't recall a single "bull$hit" chant, which I loathe loathe loathe with kids in the crowd but definitely would have said that and worse as a student myself. I think the community members who go are pretty invested and will cheer, but you can ask 100 people in our area who won last night's game, or when the next game was, or who the best player was and 95 would shrug. It is not a sports town. I think people are too invested in the Giants, Jets, Islanders, Mets, Yankees, maybe the Knicks, to give Stony Brook much of a look (fools!).

I'm interested to see if anything changes with the change in conference. I say minor if at all at least for the short term.

What does everyone else think?

Have to take some offense to this. Was a student from 2012-16 and it got pretty personal against AE opponents. We knew every coach and player and used plenty of profanity. I can remember especially riding Bill Herrion over the years. I think we had a top 2 and maybe even the top student section in the AE. Granted the AE didnt have great fan support and those were probably the best years for MBB. I think if we can get some continuity in terms of players and more winning we can be a top 3 fan support school in the CAA behind UNCW and CoC. It mattered that by 15-16 we knew Jameel and Puriefoy on a more personal level and you as a student were going to support them as much as people as players.
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: Chairman of the Board on January 17, 2023, 02:59:14 pm
i might challenge that... i don't know that such is the case.

when MBB was in its relative hey-day, sure pritchard is small (1200?) but were the selling out every game?  i don't recall.

not exactly equivalent but:

-WLAX wins.  do they get enough fans?
-what about our CWS team in 2012?
-WBB has had some great runs in the past few years.  is attendance reflective?
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: Hammertime on January 17, 2023, 02:35:55 pm
Electric atmosphere in Wilmington tonight. Bodies flying everywhere. Not an everyday thing for sure, but UNCW really filled the gym for this one.

UNCW coach’s halftime interview on the court. “We’re not tough enough. We’re way too soft. We’re not tough enough.”

And he walks off. Tirade incoming.

Trask colisuem has been voted as the toughest place to play in the CAA for quite some time.  Holds about 5,200 and the entire bleachers section behind the benches is for students, except a small section for opposing players parents. We allow about 1,200 students and put a couple hundred upstairs in the corner behind the bleachers when the bleachers are full.  It can get incredibly loud in there since there isn't a lot of room between the court and where the fans sit.  Trask was built in the 70's when UNCW had less than 4k students, we're at 18k now so we usually have a decent crowd with about 3-4 sellouts per year.  We usually lead the CAA in attendance but CofC has us this year with their success.

Curious about your arena size, student seating, past history of attendance, etc.  Some of our northern school have a hard time getting even a decent attendance with Northeastern being the worst by far.  Although it looks like Hampton is getting nobody or just isn't reporting attendace since they who about 100 per game so far.

Nobody answered so here goes.

Island Federal holds 4,160 people, and I would say we're between 1,500 and 2,500 most nights, mostly on the higher side. Anything over 2,500 is a strong showing. We averaged over 2,700 per game for a few seasons a few years ago. It hasn't been stuffed to the gills since the 2016 America East title game I want to say.

Without having traveled to any games elsewhere recently, I would go out on a limb and call it a beautiful arena. However, I wouldn't necessarily call it a tough place to play. The student section is very tame by college basketball standards. They occupy just one end zone and, no matter the showing, aren't going to ride anybody on the opposing team and are rarely/never on their feet. I can't recall a single "bull$hit" chant, which I loathe loathe loathe with kids in the crowd but definitely would have said that and worse as a student myself. I think the community members who go are pretty invested and will cheer, but you can ask 100 people in our area who won last night's game, or when the next game was, or who the best player was and 95 would shrug. It is not a sports town. I think people are too invested in the Giants, Jets, Islanders, Mets, Yankees, maybe the Knicks, to give Stony Brook much of a look (fools!).

I'm interested to see if anything changes with the change in conference. I say minor if at all at least for the short term.

What does everyone else think?

It really is quite simple. Win games and people will show up to watch. Bring in big-name HC and recruit star players. That's it. That is all you need to do to bring the crowd into SBU. Ths same thing can be said for Football. Get rid of the sleuth HC. Hire somebody with ties to the South, win games and LaVale stadium will be pact
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: Accelerator on January 17, 2023, 01:28:31 pm
Pritchard may have been a worse venue but the student section was so much more rowdy. I hate how tame our student section has become post-2016. Even when kids show up there's no invested energy from them. I want that college kid adrenaline but the students at Stony Brook are so limp and lame (outside and inside of sports cheering), and we aren't getting better types of kids anytime soon.

I always thought Northeastern had cooler people as students but woof 740 is disgraceful.
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: Knicksbu99 on January 17, 2023, 12:17:09 pm
Avg around 2100-2200 fans on a good night could get up to 2800. Being a commuter school with a heavy international student base makes it hard to have really good student engagement. Community comes out occasionally and cheers. In my opinion the remedy for higher attendance is winning championships getting more brand names to visit our beautiful arena like a Fordham I think in a few years when we are an established top  5 team in the league this will happen. Another thing is play a SUNY rivarly 4 team tourney with one host location that rotates whoever wins gets bragging rights and maybe a trophy . Being a relatively new D1 i think the athletic department needs to market the games to the point of being annoying really push the program like for the drexel game. The suite design is not my favorite because its never really full and the cameras always focus on that. Bryant plays in a high school gym and gets more students than us because they win also have to factor in the covid paranoia some fans older fans may just not return to arenas period. The arena should also probably be around 3300 seats not 4100.
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: ibosbu on January 17, 2023, 11:41:21 am
CAA attendance 2021-2022. Looks like northern teams have much lower average attendance. And we know the factors why as all these northern teams have lower numbers… including apathy towards college sports and influence of pro sports, etc.I think we will fit in the middle with similar numbers to Hofstra/Delaware/Towson.


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Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: Chairman of the Board on January 17, 2023, 11:14:00 am
agreed with checkie with one minor modification ("95 would shrug"): should be more like 99+.

in fact, if you asked 100 locals id bet the response you'd get is- SBU has a division I program?



Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: guest441 on January 17, 2023, 10:53:11 am
Electric atmosphere in Wilmington tonight. Bodies flying everywhere. Not an everyday thing for sure, but UNCW really filled the gym for this one.

UNCW coach’s halftime interview on the court. “We’re not tough enough. We’re way too soft. We’re not tough enough.”

And he walks off. Tirade incoming.

Trask colisuem has been voted as the toughest place to play in the CAA for quite some time.  Holds about 5,200 and the entire bleachers section behind the benches is for students, except a small section for opposing players parents.  We allow about 1,200 students and put a couple hundred upstairs in the corner behind the bleachers when the bleachers are full.  It can get incredibly loud in there since there isn't a lot of room between the court and where the fans sit.  Trask was built in the 70's when UNCW had less than 4k students, we're at 18k now so we usually have a decent crowd with about 3-4 sellouts per year.  We usually lead the CAA in attendance but CofC has us this year with their success.

Curious about your arena size, student seating, past history of attendance, etc.  Some of our northern school have a hard time getting even a decent attendance with Northeastern being the worst by far.  Although it looks like Hampton is getting nobody or just isn't reporting attendace since they who about 100 per game so far.

Nobody answered so here goes.

Island Federal holds 4,160 people, and I would say we're between 1,500 and 2,500 most nights, mostly on the higher side. Anything over 2,500 is a strong showing. We averaged over 2,700 per game for a few seasons a few years ago. It hasn't been stuffed to the gills since the 2016 America East title game I want to say.

Without having traveled to any games elsewhere recently, I would go out on a limb and call it a beautiful arena. However, I wouldn't necessarily call it a tough place to play. The student section is very tame by college basketball standards. They occupy just one end zone and, even no matter the showing, aren't going to ride anybody on the opposing team and are rarely/never on their feet. I can't recall a single "bull$hit" chant, which I loathe loathe loathe with kids in the crowd but definitely would have said that and worse as a student myself. I think the community members who go are pretty invested and will cheer, but you can ask 100 people in our area who won last night's game, or when the next game was, or who the best player was and 95 would shrug. It is not a sports town. I think people are too invested in the Giants, Jets, Islanders, Mets, Yankees, maybe the Knicks, to give Stony Brook much of a look (fools!).

I'm interested to see if anything changes with the change in conference. I say minor if at all at least for the short term.

What does everyone else think?

I will say that Island federal arena hasn't seen a crowd of 1800 in years. The attendance they post after a game is very inflated. The Drexel game had 1200 at most. the entire area above the suites was very empty and the main side was maybe 75% full. Students dont understand the game. Pritchard was a very challenging place to play and Will Brown and others said it on many occasions but since heilbron has gotten here he and emerich have driven season ticket holders away and have no idea how to get Long Islander's to games. Lets be real.
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: Checkmate on January 17, 2023, 09:51:54 am
Electric atmosphere in Wilmington tonight. Bodies flying everywhere. Not an everyday thing for sure, but UNCW really filled the gym for this one.

UNCW coach’s halftime interview on the court. “We’re not tough enough. We’re way too soft. We’re not tough enough.”

And he walks off. Tirade incoming.

Trask colisuem has been voted as the toughest place to play in the CAA for quite some time.  Holds about 5,200 and the entire bleachers section behind the benches is for students, except a small section for opposing players parents. We allow about 1,200 students and put a couple hundred upstairs in the corner behind the bleachers when the bleachers are full.  It can get incredibly loud in there since there isn't a lot of room between the court and where the fans sit.  Trask was built in the 70's when UNCW had less than 4k students, we're at 18k now so we usually have a decent crowd with about 3-4 sellouts per year.  We usually lead the CAA in attendance but CofC has us this year with their success.

Curious about your arena size, student seating, past history of attendance, etc.  Some of our northern school have a hard time getting even a decent attendance with Northeastern being the worst by far.  Although it looks like Hampton is getting nobody or just isn't reporting attendace since they who about 100 per game so far.

Nobody answered so here goes.

Island Federal holds 4,160 people, and I would say we're between 1,500 and 2,500 most nights, mostly on the higher side. Anything over 2,500 is a strong showing. We averaged over 2,700 per game for a few seasons a few years ago. It hasn't been stuffed to the gills since the 2016 America East title game I want to say.

Without having traveled to any games elsewhere recently, I would go out on a limb and call it a beautiful arena. However, I wouldn't necessarily call it a tough place to play. The student section is very tame by college basketball standards. They occupy just one end zone and, no matter the showing, aren't going to ride anybody on the opposing team and are rarely/never on their feet. I can't recall a single "bull$hit" chant, which I loathe loathe loathe with kids in the crowd but definitely would have said that and worse as a student myself. I think the community members who go are pretty invested and will cheer, but you can ask 100 people in our area who won last night's game, or when the next game was, or who the best player was and 95 would shrug. It is not a sports town. I think people are too invested in the Giants, Jets, Islanders, Mets, Yankees, maybe the Knicks, to give Stony Brook much of a look (fools!).

I'm interested to see if anything changes with the change in conference. I say minor if at all at least for the short term.

What does everyone else think?
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: 82Hawk on January 13, 2023, 03:27:29 pm
Electric atmosphere in Wilmington tonight. Bodies flying everywhere. Not an everyday thing for sure, but UNCW really filled the gym for this one.

UNCW coach’s halftime interview on the court. “We’re not tough enough. We’re way too soft. We’re not tough enough.”

And he walks off. Tirade incoming.

Trask colisuem has been voted as the toughest place to play in the CAA for quite some time.  Holds about 5,200 and the entire bleachers section behind the benches is for students, except a small section for opposing players parents.  We allow about 1,200 students and put a couple hundred upstairs in the corner behind the bleachers when the bleachers are full.  It can get incredibly loud in there since there isn't a lot of room between the court and where the fans sit.  Trask was built in the 70's when UNCW had less than 4k students, we're at 18k now so we usually have a decent crowd with about 3-4 sellouts per year.  We usually lead the CAA in attendance but CofC has us this year with their success.

Curious about your arena size, student seating, past history of attendance, etc.  Some of our northern school have a hard time getting even a decent attendance with Northeastern being the worst by far.  Although it looks like Hampton is getting nobody or just isn't reporting attendace since they who about 100 per game so far.
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: Checkmate on January 11, 2023, 07:43:58 pm
Electric atmosphere in Wilmington tonight. Bodies flying everywhere. Not an everyday thing for sure, but UNCW really filled the gym for this one.

UNCW coach’s halftime interview on the court. “We’re not tough enough. We’re way too soft. We’re not tough enough.”

And he walks off. Tirade incoming.
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: Knicksbu99 on January 09, 2023, 11:01:59 pm
Long term I like the move to the CAA should be able to compete in due time feel like if we had a full team absolutely finish top 6. But Charleston #22 playing UNCW who is also on a 10+ game win streak in a sold out arena is only going to be on Flohoops. Can’t help but think that is a massive miss for the conference  even getting it on Espn+ is better exposure.   
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: Checkmate on January 04, 2023, 07:48:31 am
Kansas State beat #6 Texas 116-103 in the highest scoring game in Big 12 history. Tykei had two points and two fouls in five minutes. I don’t blame anybody for trying to play at the highest level—totally get the appeal. This just can’t be what he expected. Let’s see if his minutes inch back into double digits.
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: VA_Seawolf on January 03, 2023, 04:40:24 pm
Charleston enters ranking at #23! 👏👍

https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/35365785/purdue-no-1-charleston-ends-20-year-ap-poll-drought

That's pretty awesome. To have a league team ranked is a big deal for perception and visibility. Everyone that plays charleston will come up in the TV/ESPN Top-25 score tickers

The wider appeal of the CAA is undeniable. We were sitting here on Saturday, and there was a halftime show, with a panel of experts, on a national outlet that was talking about Stony Brook regular season basketball game. When's the last time that happened? Pete Gillen and Jon Rothstein were talking up guys in our program. Just awesome. Charleston's ascension is only the latest reminder of why this was a good move.

'When was this?? We're a 5-9 team and while the CAA isn't in the basement of D1 the way the AE often was, it's a middle of the pack conference by RPI at the moment. Surprising they'd be talking about us like that. 
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: Checkmate on January 03, 2023, 02:07:22 pm
Charleston enters ranking at #23! 👏👍

https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/35365785/purdue-no-1-charleston-ends-20-year-ap-poll-drought

That's pretty awesome. To have a league team ranked is a big deal for perception and visibility. Everyone that plays charleston will come up in the TV/ESPN Top-25 score tickers

The wider appeal of the CAA is undeniable. We were sitting here on Saturday, and there was a halftime show, with a panel of experts, on a national outlet that was talking about Stony Brook regular season basketball game. When's the last time that happened? Pete Gillen and Jon Rothstein were talking up guys in our program. Just awesome. Charleston's ascension is only the latest reminder of why this was a good move.
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: ecasadoSBU on January 03, 2023, 11:41:01 am
Charleston enters ranking at #23! 👏👍

https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/35365785/purdue-no-1-charleston-ends-20-year-ap-poll-drought

That's pretty awesome. To have a league team ranked is a big deal for perception and visibility. Everyone that plays charleston will come up in the TV/ESPN Top-25 score tickers
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: sbupatriots on January 03, 2023, 11:26:08 am
In news that is perhaps only interesting to me ...

Tykei's averaging four points and two boards in about 14 minutes of action for Kansas State. They're looking good at 10-1 on the season. I wonder how he likes it there.

Similar stat line for Payton Shumpert over at Division II Daemen. Four points, two boards in limited action.

Mo Diallo is averaging 8 and 7 for Division II UT Tyler.

Tavin Pierre Philippe had 18 points in a game on December 3 for NAIA Florida Memorial but that's his only appearance. Not sure what's up there.

Juwan White is averaging six points, two boards and two assists for Division II Texas A&M International. About 20 minutes a night.

I'm just glad that, in many cases, these guys have gone somewhere and gotten good minutes, and they're mostly playing for winning programs.

Last but not least, Jules Moor is averaging 19 and 9 for NAIA North Texas-Dallas. Two of his 32 the other night came on this dunk. Worth a look.

https://twitter.com/PRO21GE/status/1602284261167583235?s=20&t=Go2SwYml4-HUanhutUAWXA

Geno's had a good couple of weeks but it is amazing how many non-D1 caliber players he's given scholarships to over the past couple years. TO, Frey and Rocco all seem to have D1 potential but would really like to see Geno winning some local recruits in the coming years.
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: Redwyn on January 03, 2023, 08:35:40 am
Pikiell and Rutgers beat #1 Purdue for the second straight year, this time on the road. Can't argue with what he's doing down there.
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: VA_Seawolf on January 02, 2023, 11:37:30 pm
Charleston enters ranking at #23! 👏👍

https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/35365785/purdue-no-1-charleston-ends-20-year-ap-poll-drought

Benefits of being in a better conference.... at least perceptually. Even those best Vermont teams never sniffed the top 25.

Of course we're trending backwards as a program, so we've got a ways to go ourselves.
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: ibosbu on January 02, 2023, 05:49:25 pm
Charleston enters ranking at #23! 👏👍

https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/35365785/purdue-no-1-charleston-ends-20-year-ap-poll-drought
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: guest441 on December 19, 2022, 03:23:04 pm
In news that is perhaps only interesting to me ...

Tykei's averaging four points and two boards in about 14 minutes of action for Kansas State. They're looking good at 10-1 on the season. I wonder how he likes it there.

Similar stat line for Payton Shumpert over at Division II Daemen. Four points, two boards in limited action.

Mo Diallo is averaging 8 and 7 for Division II UT Tyler.

Tavin Pierre Philippe had 18 points in a game on December 3 for NAIA Florida Memorial but that's his only appearance. Not sure what's up there.

Juwan White is averaging six points, two boards and two assists for Division II Texas A&M International. About 20 minutes a night.

I'm just glad that, in many cases, these guys have gone somewhere and gotten good minutes, and they're mostly playing for winning programs.

Last but not least, Jules Moor is averaging 19 and 9 for NAIA North Texas-Dallas. Two of his 32 the other night came on this dunk. Worth a look.

https://twitter.com/PRO21GE/status/1602284261167583235?s=20&t=Go2SwYml4-HUanhutUAWXA

Moor is playing for a larger crowd than SB.
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: Chairman of the Board on December 19, 2022, 11:29:12 am
thanks for this!

regarding moor- remember, there IS precedent for players returning after transfering!  nice dunk.
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: Checkmate on December 19, 2022, 11:18:02 am
In news that is perhaps only interesting to me ...

Tykei's averaging four points and two boards in about 14 minutes of action for Kansas State. They're looking good at 10-1 on the season. I wonder how he likes it there.

Similar stat line for Payton Shumpert over at Division II Daemen. Four points, two boards in limited action.

Mo Diallo is averaging 8 and 7 for Division II UT Tyler.

Tavin Pierre Philippe had 18 points in a game on December 3 for NAIA Florida Memorial but that's his only appearance. Not sure what's up there.

Juwan White is averaging six points, two boards and two assists for Division II Texas A&M International. About 20 minutes a night.

I'm just glad that, in many cases, these guys have gone somewhere and gotten good minutes, and they're mostly playing for winning programs.

Last but not least, Jules Moor is averaging 19 and 9 for NAIA North Texas-Dallas. Two of his 32 the other night came on this dunk. Worth a look.

https://twitter.com/PRO21GE/status/1602284261167583235?s=20&t=Go2SwYml4-HUanhutUAWXA
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: Accelerator on November 19, 2022, 10:59:16 am
https://nypost.com/2022/11/16/ex-albany-player-luke-fizulich-sues-dwayne-killings-school/

SUNY sports are going great!

Geno has been terrible, but at least he hasn't "violently and viciously grabbed a player, threw him up against a locker and struck him in the face, drawing blood." Yet. At least that we know of.
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: VA_Seawolf on November 17, 2022, 04:15:56 pm
Anthony Lamb is getting good minutes with the warriors, and points.

Not surprising. He was clearly a beast as we all know....

What happened to the sexual assault charge against him?  Does NBA status wipe the slate clean for him?

My understanding is that allegations were made, but no charges ever filed
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: OldSeawolf on November 17, 2022, 10:02:35 am
Anthony Lamb is getting good minutes with the warriors, and points.

Not surprising. He was clearly a beast as we all know....

What happened to the sexual assault charge against him?  Does NBA status wipe the slate clean for him?
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: VA_Seawolf on November 16, 2022, 08:46:07 pm
Anthony Lamb is getting good minutes with the warriors, and points.

Not surprising. He was clearly a beast as we all know....
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: Hammertime on November 16, 2022, 07:05:40 pm
https://nypost.com/2022/11/16/ex-albany-player-luke-fizulich-sues-dwayne-killings-school/

I hope Luke collects millions and the HC is terminated. Enough is enough with this Racist, SUNY, crap.. SUNY schools are taking this to the next level.
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: Chairman of the Board on November 16, 2022, 06:49:06 pm
https://nypost.com/2022/11/16/ex-albany-player-luke-fizulich-sues-dwayne-killings-school/
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: Checkmate on November 16, 2022, 03:44:16 pm
Anthony Lamb is getting good minutes with the warriors, and points.

Good find. I had no idea.

Another ICYMI, Tykei Greene has averaged 8.5 ppg over the first two games for Kansas State. He's coming off the bench and giving them about 20 minutes a night.
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: nyrfan1013 on November 16, 2022, 12:45:21 pm
Anthony Lamb is getting good minutes with the warriors, and points.
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: Checkmate on November 08, 2022, 03:18:12 pm
Some early tests for the CAA this week. KenPom has the CAA winning four of 10 (wins bolded). They're all good for the conference's overall rating.

Charleston at North Carolina
Towson at UMass
Hofstra vs. Iona
Delaware at Air Force
Drexel vs. Old Dominion

Northeastern at Providence
Monmouth at Seton Hall
UNC A&T at Iowa
Elon at East Tennessee State
Hampton at James Madison
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: Chairman of the Board on November 08, 2022, 11:01:49 am
always liked him.  hope it works out.
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: Checkmate on November 08, 2022, 10:47:20 am
Miles Latimer made his debut for Bryant last night, scoring 11 points in 13 minutes in their—get this—147-39 win over D-III Thomas. Bryant/Vermont actually might be a battle in the AE this year. From what I can tell, the 108-point win fell short of the record 120-point loss that Southeastern Christian suffered against Georgia in 1917-18—a 122-2 nailbiter.
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: Chairman of the Board on November 07, 2022, 04:37:46 pm
wow.  assuming this was malicious.  and if so, good for him.  even opens an opportunity for a young asst.
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: Checkmate on November 07, 2022, 03:10:41 pm
https://twitter.com/JonRothstein/status/1589710814004785152?s=20&t=B94zjNqUUz__RpIxYQI66g

Gallagher resigns at Hartford. Oh by the way, tipoff's in about 24 hours. They could be bottom five in the country, which of course is meaningless to the Hartford admin now that they're dropping down.
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: Hammertime on August 14, 2022, 04:28:11 pm
It's going to really hurt see everyone refer to him as "Pittsburgh forward Mo Gueye" knowing that he spent more time with us. So painful

I was thinking the same thing, but. Mo would get more serious looks when people know him as a Pitt player who was trained there, opposed to being trained by Geno Ford from Stony brook
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: Accelerator on August 14, 2022, 04:21:27 pm
It's going to really hurt see everyone refer to him as "Pittsburgh forward Mo Gueye" knowing that he spent more time with us. So painful
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: OldSeawolf on August 14, 2022, 12:25:35 pm
Mo Gueye getting tryout with Dallas Mavs:

https://twitter.com/shamscharania/status/1558845900834758656?s=21&t=lCBWcBErz5k5XFcdd_M3xw
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: Redwyn on August 09, 2022, 04:02:22 pm
I far preferred the CAA when it was just 12 and we were coming along with Monmouth and Hampton. And even then, I did not like Hampton and thought we were the clear prize jewel in that group.

While I will not argue with the difference in academic bona fides between us and these institutions, I suspect that Campbell, NC A&T and even Monmouth will outdraw us and in many sports outperform us.

My hope is that the athletic conference does what it's supposed to - make us play up to what is a largely better group of programs than ours at the present. We have the size and resource potential to exceed these places, but I do not believe that we are a better athletic program than Campbell or Monmouth at the moment, and NC A&T will quickly surpass us.

Programs that I think have a shot at early dominance are our cross country programs, our women's basketball team, and our men's/women's lax program. Baseball and softball will be fringe competitors. We will be buried in MBB and football until we shape up those programs.
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: Checkmate on August 09, 2022, 03:47:53 pm
This will matter to very few of you, if any, but Preston and Payton Shumpert have landed at Daemen, a pretty good D-II outside Buffalo.
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: Accelerator on August 06, 2022, 04:14:54 pm
I far preferred the CAA when it was just 12 and we were coming along with Monmouth and Hampton. And even then, I did not like Hampton and thought we were the clear prize jewel in that group.
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: VA_Seawolf on August 06, 2022, 02:37:05 pm
Here I am hoping for Howard and we get Campbell....


The additions of Campbell, Monmouth, and A&T don't excite me tbh. I know we're technically one of the newbies to this league so we can't complain, but Campbell? What? I was here expecting Howard to want to make the move any minute now....
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: Hammertime on August 03, 2022, 10:41:26 am
Worth noting: the Campbell Camels will join the CAA beginning in 2023-24. With UNC A&T joining as well, we'll be up to 14 teams.

Try to contain yourself.

An interesting proposed division setup on Twitter. Not bad if you ask me.

South
C of C
UNC Wilmington
UNC A&T
Elon
Campbell
Hampton
William & Mary

North
Towson
Delaware
Drexel
Monmouth
Hofstra
Stony Brook
Northeastern

I wonder how that will shape up in Football.
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: Checkmate on August 03, 2022, 10:03:03 am
What happened to Howard?  I thought they would be a great addition, and was under the impression it was happening.

Howard declined the invite last month.
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: sbugold on August 03, 2022, 09:50:53 am
Worth noting: the Campbell Camels will join the CAA beginning in 2023-24. With UNC A&T joining as well, we'll be up to 14 teams.

Try to contain yourself.

An interesting proposed division setup on Twitter. Not bad if you ask me.

South
C of C
UNC Wilmington
UNC A&T
Elon
Campbell
Hampton
William & Mary

North
Towson
Delaware
Drexel
Monmouth
Hofstra
Stony Brook
Northeastern

What happened to Howard?  I thought they would be a great addition, and was under the impression it was happening.
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: ibosbu on August 03, 2022, 09:45:35 am
May be we will switch to 19 games season. 12 home/home divisional against northern members and 7 vs southern members.
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: Checkmate on August 03, 2022, 09:28:56 am
Worth noting: the Campbell Camels will join the CAA beginning in 2023-24. With UNC A&T joining as well, we'll be up to 14 teams.

Try to contain yourself.

An interesting proposed division setup on Twitter. Not bad if you ask me.

South
C of C
UNC Wilmington
UNC A&T
Elon
Campbell
Hampton
William & Mary

North
Towson
Delaware
Drexel
Monmouth
Hofstra
Stony Brook
Northeastern
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: VA_Seawolf on May 03, 2022, 02:43:21 pm
I take that as they're leaving the door open. With a strong start in the CAA, I wouldn't rule out a move to the A10 in a year or two. That's been the goal from the start (or at least it should have been). There is the question though of if the A10 is getting watered down. They only got two bids to the tournament this year and finished only two spots higher than the CAA in the conference rankings. I would peg the odds of a CAA at-large bid to be only marginally worse than an A10 at-large for a team that has a good year. Just something to keep an eye on.
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: ibosbu on May 03, 2022, 12:33:49 pm
https://collegehoopstoday.com/index.php/rothstein-files/bernadette-mcglade-atlantic-10-open-to-adding-16th-member/

Would have been interesting if we were still looking, although I think we’d have been a darkhorse at best for it.


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Yes we probably wouldn’t have much chance, but darkhorse is a good way to put it. Because I also do not see any clear cut worthy addition from New England and Mid-Atlantic. Best candidate is probably for from south of DMV. Charleston stands out to me in terms of dedication to basketball.

From north, Iona brings nothing except Pitino. Vermont is handicapped by their location. Northeastern is one of many Boston teams with average attendance less than 1k. Delaware has football issue. Fairfield/Siena have potential, not do not add anything to what A10 already has. I would say Hofstra and us would have a lot of advantage over other candidates from the region. But every school including us lack basketball success which is one thing A10 values above all.

It’s probably going to be Belmont or Charleston imo.

I wish we had couple of more trips to ncaa in the last decade. It would have put us above many candidates. We just have one banner.
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: Checkmate on May 03, 2022, 08:22:34 am
https://collegehoopstoday.com/index.php/rothstein-files/bernadette-mcglade-atlantic-10-open-to-adding-16th-member/

Would have been interesting if we were still looking, although I think we’d have been a darkhorse at best for it.


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Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: ecasadoSBU on April 22, 2022, 01:19:40 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OUd6choLqi8&t=1467s
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: ecasadoSBU on April 21, 2022, 11:55:44 pm
Wow. Can’t Jay Wright retired just like that. Legend.

Really shocking to be honest. Sad to lose a great coach for the game.

Yeah. Nova is not going to be perennial contender anymore. Why are they hiring one year coach from Fordham? They could get anyone. And they got money.

Nova won two championships with the Jay Wright-Neptune duo. So it makes sense they bring him in to try to retain players and keep the same system in place
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: Checkmate on April 21, 2022, 09:31:17 pm
Wow. Can’t Jay Wright retired just like that. Legend.

Really shocking to be honest. Sad to lose a great coach for the game.

Yeah. Nova is not going to be perennial contender anymore. Why are they hiring one year coach from Fordham? They could get anyone. And they got money.
Neptune was a Nova assistant for a long time before taking the Fordham gig. A Fordham friend was pleased to have a glimmer of hope with Neptune, but now he’s expecting to regress to the norm with him gone.


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Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: ibosbu on April 21, 2022, 08:58:48 pm
Wow. Can’t Jay Wright retired just like that. Legend.

Really shocking to be honest. Sad to lose a great coach for the game.

Yeah. Nova is not going to be perennial contender anymore. Why are they hiring one year coach from Fordham? They could get anyone. And they got money.
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: ecasadoSBU on April 21, 2022, 06:33:14 pm
Wow. Can’t Jay Wright retired just like that. Legend.

Really shocking to be honest. Sad to lose a great coach for the game.
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: ibosbu on April 21, 2022, 07:56:16 am
Wow. Can’t believe Jay Wright retired just like that. Legend.
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: Checkmate on April 03, 2022, 02:12:45 pm
I’d love to be right here. Except for the month of course.

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Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: ibosbu on March 29, 2022, 07:50:42 pm
Bryant announces they’re joining the AE and parking football in the Big South

Following what Monmouth and us did. Free parking at Big South
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: guest410 on March 29, 2022, 06:43:40 pm
Bryant announces they’re joining the AE and parking football in the Big South
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: Accelerator on March 29, 2022, 12:36:28 pm
I made a joke a few months ago about how I wish Geno would get caught doing something like hitting his own players so that we could get out of his contract without having to pay the buyout. But seeing how bad the PR is for this Albany case has me realize that's obviously not a good outcome.

I shouldn't be laughing at this sh*tstorm happening to them... but I am. Sorry, but after watching the Hooley three in person at their arena, I have no sympathy.
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: Chairman of the Board on March 28, 2022, 07:40:11 pm
being thrown around on the boards is... bring will brown back!

and i have to say- it isnt the worst idea ive heard.
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: Hammertime on March 28, 2022, 06:50:07 pm
Update from Scooby Doo’s:

https://twitter.com/samurai_hoops/status/1508515204849709058?s=21

Per Samurai Sources, Dwayne Killings will be relieved of his duties at Albany following the Final Four.

Albany AD Mark Benson reportedly going to give Killings an opportunity to depart on his own.

The allegations against Killings center around an *alleged* physical altercation with a student athlete.

AD Mark Benson has reportedly given Killings the opportunity to leave on his own in an attempt to salvage the situation but has openly began his search for a replacement


Maybe UA will take Geno Ford as their next HC..
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: guest410 on March 28, 2022, 03:46:14 pm
https://twitter.com/mid_madness/status/1508284146816270339

Only 16 hours ago, Mid-Major Madness posted Albany picked up a commitment from a '22 SG who chose the Great Danes over UMass, Marist and NJIT.
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: guest410 on March 28, 2022, 03:39:45 pm
The same account says John Gallagher interviewed for the La Salle Head Coach position.
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: ibosbu on March 28, 2022, 03:21:14 pm
Lot of respect for Will Brown and the teams that beat us in AE playoffs, but zero for their fans.

Don’t know much about Dwayne Killings and current players… but yeah. I would never wish bad for fellow SUNY teams. Agreed… hope they endure.

But tbh it’s hard to find any sympathy after the way their fans on AE board continue to bash us.
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: Chairman of the Board on March 28, 2022, 03:15:54 pm
maybe it's this: https://dailygazette.com/2022/03/28/ualbany-mens-basketball-guard-horton-enters-into-ncaa-transfer-portal/
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: Chairman of the Board on March 28, 2022, 03:11:33 pm
read that brown tweeted "#karma" and then quickly took it down. https://bigpurplefans.ipbhost.com/topic/9471-allegations-swirling/

the internets say its obvious who the player is... to me its not.  maybe i dont pay close enough attention.

hope they all get this figured out and come out on top.  would hate to see a fellow suny endure an athletics issue.
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: ibosbu on March 28, 2022, 03:03:05 pm
Update from Scooby Doo’s:

https://twitter.com/samurai_hoops/status/1508515204849709058?s=21

Per Samurai Sources, Dwayne Killings will be relieved of his duties at Albany following the Final Four.

Albany AD Mark Benson reportedly going to give Killings an opportunity to depart on his own.

The allegations against Killings center around an *alleged* physical altercation with a student athlete.

AD Mark Benson has reportedly given Killings the opportunity to leave on his own in an attempt to salvage the situation but has openly began his search for a replacement


Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: VA_Seawolf on March 27, 2022, 05:05:03 pm
Personally I think the school that earns the credits should keep the bulk of them, something like 60-70% and then split the rest, but whatever. IDK what the CAA does either, but it's likely in line with what other conferences do.
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: ibosbu on March 27, 2022, 01:33:58 pm
I thought this was an interesting read about St. Peter’s financial situation and what this run means/doesn’t mean.

https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/33604306/financial-jackpot-unlikely-cash-strapped-saint-peter-peacocks-generating-ncaa-tournament-revenue


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Good read. Whatever number of units (ie money) they end up earning, it will get distributed evenly to all MAAC members over 6 years. It may seem unfair, but every unit that other teams (Iona for example) have been bringing in previous years, St. Peter’s got a share too.

I think most conferences split tourney unit money evenly among conference members regardless of who earns it. I know one exception A10 who splits based on performance rather than evenly. They split 75% for the team earning the unit and 25% for conference. I’m sure there are other conferences who have their own rules on splitting. I wonder what CAA does.
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: Knicksbu99 on March 27, 2022, 01:11:00 pm
Surprised jenkins averaged 4 assists at FDU with all the one dribble pull up steph curry threes he took this year.
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: Checkmate on March 27, 2022, 09:05:28 am
I thought this was an interesting read about St. Peter’s financial situation and what this run means/doesn’t mean.

https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/33604306/financial-jackpot-unlikely-cash-strapped-saint-peter-peacocks-generating-ncaa-tournament-revenue


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Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: Chairman of the Board on March 26, 2022, 08:42:07 pm
st. peter's (at least in this tournament) is playing old school bball.  jump shots, baby hooks, passing, pick & roll, etc.  sometimes the ball doesnt even spend 1 second in a player's hands, instead it's tapped out to the next player.  passes open up the three.  they take only 20 a game but hit them because they attempt after much passing.

passing works in every sport.  except golf.  and boxing.  and tennis.
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: Accelerator on March 26, 2022, 08:36:21 pm
The way that Geno took a great playmaker like Jenkins (4 assists per game at FDU) and made him only have 2.9 this year is criminal.
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: Chairman of the Board on March 26, 2022, 08:18:44 pm
and the real rub is- it's actually easier than the offense we run.  need less talent, don't need to make low % shots, don't need outside shooters, dribblers, slashers, penetrators.  you just need unselfish players that pass the ball.

vermont does it.  st. peter's does it.  maybe its the formula for a midmajor to win.

we've won exactly one game of importance in the past 15 years (or ever, for that matter, at this level), with 21 assists (thanks woody). 

this year?  averaged 11 per game.
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: sbu1991 on March 26, 2022, 05:28:05 pm
St. Peters !!!  Great story, and didn't we beat them this year :)

Holloway playing his way right into a multi-million dollar Seton Hall head coaching job, now that Willard is leaving.  He's a real good guy; good for him.

Geno could learn A LOT from St. Peters' offense. Great ball movement, screens, off-the-ball movement and cutting to the basket. It's impressive how much they can fit into a single possession, which almost always yields a makable shot. (Basically, the exact opposite of a typical SB possession.)
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: OldSeawolf on March 26, 2022, 02:09:52 pm
St. Peters !!!  Great story, and didn't we beat them this year :)

Holloway playing his way right into a multi-million dollar Seton Hall head coaching job, now that Willard is leaving.  He's a real good guy; good for him.
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: ibosbu on March 22, 2022, 04:12:33 pm
Agreed. Back to back tourney appearances after a 30 years of drought.. well deserved. New UMD coach Willard will be making in the same neighborhood.
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: Checkmate on March 22, 2022, 03:31:13 pm
https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/33477610/rutgers-men-basketball-coach-steve-pikiell-agree-four-year-extension
Good for him. Well deserved. He’s revived that program, which is to say that it was once alive and I’m not sure that’s accurate!


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Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: Chairman of the Board on March 22, 2022, 01:21:01 pm
https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/33477610/rutgers-men-basketball-coach-steve-pikiell-agree-four-year-extension
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: Chairman of the Board on March 21, 2022, 09:19:00 am
i didnt see that one- i did catch the beginning of UNC/baylor, and both teams came out of the gates launching threes.  but of course, those two teams sunk many of them, especially UNC. 
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: OldSeawolf on March 21, 2022, 09:04:25 am
anyone catch the end of osu/nova?  it was a tight game and both teams just launched hapless threes for about the last 10 minutes.  it was awful bball.

Yeah, it was bad.  But Auburn got the award for most bad shots in a game.  Bruce Pearl should get fired after that performance.
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: Chairman of the Board on March 21, 2022, 08:35:12 am
anyone catch the end of osu/nova?  it was a tight game and both teams just launched hapless threes for about the last 10 minutes.  it was awful bball. 
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: OldSeawolf on March 21, 2022, 07:28:45 am
It’s gotta be a kick in the nuts for Olaniyi to transfer here to win a conference title (among other reasons) only to see Miami reach the Sweet 16. And they can beat Iowa State too.


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I was thinking the same thing during the game last night.   Additionally, I think I found a team that takes as many bad shots as us......Auburn!   I could not believe the # of bad 3's that were hoisted by them all night.   I think Bruce Pearl attended too many Geno Ford summer camps.
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: Checkmate on March 21, 2022, 07:22:17 am
It’s gotta be a kick in the nuts for Olaniyi to transfer here to win a conference title (among other reasons) only to see Miami reach the Sweet 16. And they can beat Iowa State too.


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Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: Accelerator on March 17, 2022, 11:27:47 pm
Look at that. “Local church team of high schoolers” knocked off Kentucky.

Sorry, Accel, had to rib you for that one


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Lol that did age poorly. But at the time they were not nearly as good as they are now. KenPom of 217 vs 107 as of today. At this point, it’s good PR for us to have beaten them at all.
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: Chairman of the Board on March 17, 2022, 11:17:43 pm
vermont knotted at 48 with arkansas....
Title: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: Checkmate on March 17, 2022, 10:56:04 pm
Look at that. “Local church team of high schoolers” knocked off Kentucky.

Sorry, Accel, had to rib you for that one


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Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: Chairman of the Board on March 17, 2022, 05:28:47 pm
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We remember his 1-4 in championship games at sbu  and I still remember sitting in the arena with my son in the last one, trailing by 17 early in the 2nd half, saying that this defies all odds. But Warney put the team on his back thankfully.

and somehow we ignore this formula year after year.... i know, im a broken record.
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: OldSeawolf on March 17, 2022, 04:38:14 pm
The Rutgers L was tough. It felt like Pikiell should have called timeout in regulation, at least after the offensive rebound. And then the turnover in OT—ouch.

I do think things came easier for Notre Dame so the better team may have won. Still gotta love what's going on at Rutgers. They'll bring most everyone back and it seems like the floor for their recruiting continues to rise. If I was in NJ, I'd think it was cool to play for Rutgers and go up against the B1G.

Would I take Pikiell back at SBU? In a heartbeat. No questions asked.

But the guy continues to lose Big games. Last year, blowing that lead against Houston was inexcusable in the round of 32, when he took the air out of the ball way too early. He was crucified for that on the Rutgers boards.

Last night, he blew the game with that ridiculous diagrammed out-of-bounds play TO after a timeout, when they had a 1 pt lead and the ball with 27 secs left (forget if it was at end of regulation or the 1st OT, since there were so many swings in game).

We remember his 1-4 in championship games at sbu  and I still remember sitting in the arena with my son in the last one, trailing by 17 early in the 2nd half, saying that this defies all odds. But Warney put the team on his back thankfully.

He’s a really good guy, excellent recruiter, great ambassador for the university he’s working for, but when it comes to X’s and O’s, he isn’t close to the top; I’d even venture to say mediocre at best.

4 years, $16MM, I say he should be sharing a piece of that with Warney, who put him on the map.  Then again, he was the guy who recruited Warney, and somehow convinced him to stay for 4 years.
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: Checkmate on March 17, 2022, 02:30:21 pm
The Rutgers L was tough. It felt like Pikiell should have called timeout in regulation, at least after the offensive rebound. And then the turnover in OT—ouch.

I do think things came easier for Notre Dame so the better team may have won. Still gotta love what's going on at Rutgers. They'll bring most everyone back and it seems like the floor for their recruiting continues to rise. If I was in NJ, I'd think it was cool to play for Rutgers and go up against the B1G.
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: Accelerator on March 17, 2022, 12:48:23 pm
Hunter Dickinson on Michigan is the younger brother of Ben Dickinson, whoa! I’m dating myself with that reference but he was one of the dirtiest players in America East history, played on Binghamton and was just a complete a-hole with his flagrants and unnecessary hits, if anyone remembers him.
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: VA_Seawolf on March 14, 2022, 10:54:31 pm
I bought tickets for the entire slate of the BET like I usually did before the pandemic.

That was exciting basketball at the garden. Would love for Stony Brook to play in an environment like that someday.

I wonder how the CAA Tournament is?!? Thinking of checking it out next March in DC

Not sure it'll stay in DC next year as the CAA tourney has moved around a bit, but if it's in the same spot just a quick word of caution as that arena is in SE DC which is the hood of DC. Won't be an issue if you drive in though I don't think.
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: seawolfemeritus on March 14, 2022, 09:17:37 am
Also Fairfield under JY has been pretty underwhelming. Seems like Boals was the right hire that year over JY, but once Boals left, we should have started a new coaching search.
Inherited a mess, and hasn't had a home court advantage in 3 years while their new arena is under construction. With the arena ready next year and some recruits/portal guys, expect them to be much better. Building it the same way Pikes built SBU/RU.

Didn’t know about the home court issue. That does affect a lot. With new Arena would Fairfield be an attractive school for AE, even CAA?

No question they're looking to move, and I believe the CAA is the target. But with all this conference realignment stuff, who the heck knows? The AE board believes they're swallowing the MAAC. The MAAC board thinks they're swallowing the AE. It's entertaining, but at the end of the day nobody really knows jack! :-)
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: ecasadoSBU on March 13, 2022, 11:05:40 pm
I bought tickets for the entire slate of the BET like I usually did before the pandemic.

That was exciting basketball at the garden. Would love for Stony Brook to play in an environment like that someday.

I wonder how the CAA Tournament is?!? Thinking of checking it out next March in DC
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: Knicksbu99 on March 13, 2022, 04:31:07 pm
Yale won today another tourney team we beat.
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: Hammertime on March 13, 2022, 07:08:08 am
No doubt in my mind no ban this team is in the finals. Sure Vermont was a juggernaut but its march and anything can happen would love to have a 3rd crack at them shame the AE shame Shawn helibron.

I like SH as a person, but he sucks as an AD for SB. Sorry to say that, but it's true.....

What are your top three gripes with him?

I'm not in the weeds as much with the athletic department happenings, but I see him at every game, mostly successful programs, a major conference upgrade, return of the swim program, a new bubble, new training center ... so it's pretty good from my angle, but as I said, I haven't really scrutinized the inner workings much.

SH 5 year 100 million Dollar plan when first hired missed by about 90 million.

SH couldn't even raise $100,000 to install lighting at Joe Nathan Field. for the men's baseball field, hence, they missed a chance to make the NCAA dance last year.

SH locks Geno Ford into a 5-year contract right out of the gate after Boals leaves for Ohio. Huge mistake.

SH extends coach Priore's contract twice when he should have fired him, twice...

The upgrades you mentioned only happened because of a huge influx of money from SB former Alumni, The Dolan family.

I'm sure there are many more gripes I forgot to mention. Like I said. SH is a really nice guy. No doubt. But he isn't good for SB and his ability to raise money is not up to par with his expectations..


Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: Accelerator on March 13, 2022, 01:38:44 am
Ahmad Walker’s brother is dancing. He had 27 tonight for UAB—after going for 40 yesterday. Port Washington kid.


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Damn, I haven’t thought about Ahmad Walker in ages. Didn’t know he had a brother in D1 either. Ahmad was a real head case, so much potential but had to get arrested a month before he would have been one of the main weapons in the post-NCAA team.
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: guest410 on March 13, 2022, 12:05:02 am
Andrew Garcia's trying to go to the tournament finally. Kent State v. Akron.

He's going to have to play a big role, especially early. One of these guys got suspended for the game, and three others for the first half.

https://twitter.com/KardSports/status/1502788036748189698?s=20&t=a0VqV4OPb9OpScrE6hHslQ

Unfortunately, statistically, he had a terrible game. Five points, four rebounds, two steals, one assist, and fouled out in 22 minutes.
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: Checkmate on March 12, 2022, 11:34:27 pm
Ahmad Walker’s brother is dancing. He had 27 tonight for UAB—after going for 40 yesterday. Port Washington kid.


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Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: Accelerator on March 12, 2022, 10:34:25 pm
No doubt in my mind no ban this team is in the finals. Sure Vermont was a juggernaut but its march and anything can happen would love to have a 3rd crack at them shame the AE shame Shawn helibron.

I like SH as a person, but he sucks as an AD for SB. Sorry to say that, but it's true.....

What are your top three gripes with him?

I'm not in the weeds as much with the athletic department happenings, but I see him at every game, mostly successful programs, a major conference upgrade, return of the swim program, a new bubble, new training center ... so it's pretty good from my angle, but as I said, I haven't really scrutinized the inner workings much.

Let's start with his awful contract decisions in the money sports: football and basketball!

And then the inability to fundraise enough money to cover his ass when those hires began to fail. His fundraising in general has been awful, and that was the sole reason he was brought here.

I also don't think the student engagement has improved that much since he came along — another strike against him.
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: Checkmate on March 12, 2022, 08:18:18 pm
Andrew Garcia's trying to go to the tournament finally. Kent State v. Akron.

He's going to have to play a big role, especially early. One of these guys got suspended for the game, and three others for the first half.

https://twitter.com/KardSports/status/1502788036748189698?s=20&t=a0VqV4OPb9OpScrE6hHslQ
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: Checkmate on March 12, 2022, 07:42:14 pm
No doubt in my mind no ban this team is in the finals. Sure Vermont was a juggernaut but its march and anything can happen would love to have a 3rd crack at them shame the AE shame Shawn helibron.

I like SH as a person, but he sucks as an AD for SB. Sorry to say that, but it's true.....

What are your top three gripes with him?

I'm not in the weeds as much with the athletic department happenings, but I see him at every game, mostly successful programs, a major conference upgrade, return of the swim program, a new bubble, new training center ... so it's pretty good from my angle, but as I said, I haven't really scrutinized the inner workings much.
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: Hammertime on March 12, 2022, 05:03:52 pm
No doubt in my mind no ban this team is in the finals. Sure Vermont was a juggernaut but its march and anything can happen would love to have a 3rd crack at them shame the AE shame Shawn helibron.

I like SH as a person, but he sucks as an AD for SB. Sorry to say that, but it's true.....
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: Knicksbu99 on March 12, 2022, 04:18:56 pm
Also gonna miss home court hosting playoffs.
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: Knicksbu99 on March 12, 2022, 04:15:58 pm
No doubt in my mind no ban this team is in the finals. Sure Vermont was a juggernaut but its march and anything can happen would love to have a 3rd crack at them shame the AE shame Shawn helibron.
Title: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: Checkmate on March 12, 2022, 01:26:25 pm
What’s the largest average margin of victory for a conference tournament champion in history? Because Vermont won by 39, 32 and 39 points.

The AE stinks, and UVM’s resume isn’t especially impressive on its own, but I would not want to face them in the first round of the tournament.


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Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: ibosbu on March 11, 2022, 10:24:24 am
Also Fairfield under JY has been pretty underwhelming. Seems like Boals was the right hire that year over JY, but once Boals left, we should have started a new coaching search.
Inherited a mess, and hasn't had a home court advantage in 3 years while their new arena is under construction. With the arena ready next year and some recruits/portal guys, expect them to be much better. Building it the same way Pikes built SBU/RU.

Didn’t know about the home court issue. That does affect a lot. With new Arena would Fairfield be an attractive school for AE, even CAA?
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: seawolfemeritus on March 11, 2022, 09:07:27 am
Also Fairfield under JY has been pretty underwhelming. Seems like Boals was the right hire that year over JY, but once Boals left, we should have started a new coaching search.
Inherited a mess, and hasn't had a home court advantage in 3 years while their new arena is under construction. With the arena ready next year and some recruits/portal guys, expect them to be much better. Building it the same way Pikes built SBU/RU.
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: OldSeawolf on March 11, 2022, 07:21:35 am
Anyone notice that Stef Smith (UVM alum) played for St. John's this year.  Had 10 points last night, in tough loss to Nova.
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: Checkmate on March 10, 2022, 11:13:46 pm
I have to imagine that Grasso levels up once Bryant’s season is over with.


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Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: VA_Seawolf on March 10, 2022, 09:24:02 pm
AE is bush league. Bryant will fit right in.

I'm just thankful we're on the way out.
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: OldSeawolf on March 10, 2022, 12:20:52 pm
The real story of the week was the Malice at the Palace 2.0 at Bryant/Wagner. Never did I ever think that could ever happen at an NEC game, lol.

Bryant students came off like massive d-bags... but at least they have a passion for the team that I haven't seen at Stony Brook since Warney left.

I'm sure the America East will be so happy now to take Bryant into their Conference.....
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: Accelerator on March 10, 2022, 11:54:30 am
The real story of the week was the Malice at the Palace 2.0 at Bryant/Wagner. Never did I ever think that could ever happen at an NEC game, lol.

Bryant students came off like massive d-bags... but at least they have a passion for the team that I haven't seen at Stony Brook since Warney left.
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: ecasadoSBU on March 10, 2022, 11:46:33 am
I attended the BET last night. Have all-session passes. Gotta say that its been a fun start.

I expect today's game to be a lot of fun also. I would love to see Stony Brook in the Big East someday in my lifetime. lol
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: ibosbu on March 10, 2022, 11:29:29 am
Also Fairfield under JY has been pretty underwhelming. Seems like Boals was the right hire that year over JY, but once Boals left, we should have started a new coaching search.
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: ibosbu on March 10, 2022, 11:25:05 am
Iona and Pitino lost to Rider… NIT bound.
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: ibosbu on March 08, 2022, 10:54:27 pm
5th seed Hens are going to the big dance after beating 1st seed Towson and 2nd seed UNCW... played tough defense in all three CAA tourney games
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: guest410 on March 08, 2022, 09:23:33 pm
Stony Brook lost to Wagner back in December, 78-49, and then beat Bryant 86-78 a week later. Bryant is now whooping Wagner in the NEC championship, 70-37 with 3:36 remaining. CBB is so bizarre.
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: VA_Seawolf on March 08, 2022, 10:30:21 am
The average CAA team is better than the average AE team, but Vermont is the best team in either league.

We'll be fine in the CAA. Recruiting will tick up and we'll be good.
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: Accelerator on March 07, 2022, 09:00:29 pm
Towson lost in the semis. Their KenPom was 67, which is about where Vermont was this year too.
Title: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: Checkmate on March 07, 2022, 08:32:57 pm
Watching the CAA tournament, I don’t look at these teams and wonder how the heck we’re going to compete. Maybe that’s me being naive. If you take out Hofstra, we’re 7-7 against the CAA all time, with some solid recent results.

I wonder if we can get Albany in here for a buy game next year


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Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: ibosbu on March 06, 2022, 11:49:40 pm
I have a feeling if Quinny joins AE, they might be a very good fit and may challenge Vermont. Q got money. (Just AE board rumor that Bryant done deal and Quinny likely joining AE.). No one will touch Becker due to **** scandal under his watch. So he will be at Vermont for a while. But it won’t be cakewalk like Gonzaga. Q has ambition and being private, doesn’t need to make sloth like decisions (unlike state schools). Anyway hope UMBC or NJIT wins the AE tournament. But I don’t see anyone upsetting Vermont at home.
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: VA_Seawolf on March 06, 2022, 06:58:38 pm
I can’t see it, but how I would love to see Vermont stub its toe in the AE Tournament. Total massacre today though.


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Not going to happen.

One would have to believe that Vermont leaves the AE once the new basketball arena is up and running. That would be that nail in the coffin

Vermont is basically the East Coast Gonzaga but without the continuity at coach and the NCAA performance. They're poised to dominate the AE the same way Gonzaga has dominated the WCC.
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: Hammertime on March 06, 2022, 05:15:29 pm
I can’t see it, but how I would love to see Vermont stub its toe in the AE Tournament. Total massacre today though.


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Not going to happen.

One would have to believe that Vermont leaves the AE once the new basketball arena is up and running. That would be that nail in the coffin
Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: Checkmate on March 06, 2022, 04:53:10 pm
I can’t see it, but how I would love to see Vermont stub its toe in the AE Tournament. Total massacre today though.


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Title: Re: Around the CAA / Country
Post by: ecasadoSBU on March 06, 2022, 03:26:01 pm
Big East elite this year too with 7 bids in play
Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: ecasadoSBU on March 06, 2022, 03:24:45 pm
The WCC is projected to get 3 or 4 bids this year also.

The west coast high-major (non P6) leagues are doing pretty well this year. That would be 7/8 bids between the MWC/WCC while the P6 ACC is looking at only 4 or 5 bids this year. The A10 is also struggling
Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: VA_Seawolf on March 06, 2022, 12:31:05 am
Mountain West being projected to get 4 teams is an anomaly and highly unusual. They usually only get one or two IIRC. That may have something to do with it.

In any case in the CAA if we play well there's always a chance. The AE never had a prayer at an at-large.
Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: ibosbu on March 04, 2022, 04:18:57 pm
Amazing that A10 is in the danger of becoming 1-bid conference this year. It’s been a while since they last had more than 2 bids. It seems every year they are becoming less and less relevant?! Or May be they are just having an off year. May, just May be, CAA may not be that far behind from A10?

https://twitter.com/espnlunardi/status/1499800278282944521?s=21

PS time to change the name of the thread? Would love to see this thread continuing as it has so many pages already! Or perhaps start a fresh one as we move into CAA
Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: Hammertime on February 18, 2022, 06:07:39 am
https://www.wabi.tv/2022/02/17/maine-mens-basketball-head-coach-richard-barron-mutually-agree-part-ways/

Maine has fired their HC

We could only wish. But that doesnt happen at SBU very often
Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: guest410 on February 17, 2022, 07:05:40 pm
https://www.wabi.tv/2022/02/17/maine-mens-basketball-head-coach-richard-barron-mutually-agree-part-ways/

Maine has fired their HC
Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: Checkmate on January 08, 2022, 01:35:18 pm
It seems like Pitt has unlocked Gueye to a degree. Four straight games with 30-plus minutes and 14-plus points. A lot of it’s coming from three.

Here’s a nice read on how he’s developed.

https://www.post-gazette.com/sports/Pitt/2021/12/23/pitt-panthers-basketball-mouhamadou-gueye-jeff-capel-stony-brook-seawolves/stories/202112240022


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Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: Accelerator on December 16, 2021, 08:58:41 pm
A lot of people let him get away, because he played two seasons at D2.
Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: OldSeawolf on December 16, 2021, 07:58:28 pm
Almonacy lighting it up with Appalachian St vs Duke. 17 pts at the half. How’d we ever let him get away?
Title: Around the AE/country
Post by: Checkmate on November 19, 2021, 09:30:23 pm
Another example of the depth of the AE—Lowell goes into DC and steamrolls GW in the second half. That’s two road wins over the A-10 for UML, and both were without Connor Withers (not sure why). They looked really good. Nice fortifications at guard in Faison, Hammond and Hikim, all transfers to go with a million returnees. These days, every statement has to begin with “if he stays” but Max Brooks might be conference POY before he’s done there. Good hands, soft touch, and a good finisher around the rim. He had a career high in points two nights after setting his high against CCSU. Definite defensive POY candidate too. STUD.

17 assists on 27 makes. 40-20 advantage in the paint. They rolled despite going 3-21 from three.

Vermont with a nice win over the Ivy favorites too.

We’re going to have our hands full this year.


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Title: Around the AE/country
Post by: Checkmate on November 19, 2021, 06:18:47 pm
I don’t know what the record is, but 72 percent of UMass’ shots came from three point land today (42/58) in a 93-90 overtime win over UNC Greensboro.
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Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: Checkmate on November 17, 2021, 10:21:53 pm
Binghamton’s up 69-55 on Columbia with six minutes left, DOESN’T SCORE AGAIN IN REGULATION, it goes to OT and they lose. Wretched loss. They were shooting the lights out and then collapsed.


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Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: VA_Seawolf on November 10, 2021, 10:11:13 pm
Other Seawolves in other places ...

- Andrew Garcia's now at Kent State. They tip off Friday. He's back working with Randal Holt, who's an assistant there.
- Michael Almonacy (App State) had 9 points on 4-of-15 shooting in a season-opening loss to Iona.
- Makale Foreman was a DNP in Cal's loss to UC San Diego.
- Jeff Otchere was a DNP in UTRGV's win over Texas A&M International.
- Anthony Ochefu was a DNP in Delaware's loss to Davidson.
- Jules Moor had two points in four minutes during Stephen F. Austin's win over LSU-Alexandria.
- Corry Long (SNHU) and Tavin Pierre-Philippe (New Haven) tip on Friday.
- It was reported that Miles Latimer transferred from Bucknell to Bryant but he's not listed on the roster.
- Same with Leighton Elliott-Sewell at STAC. Not listed.

Literally more than half the roster of kids who played here between 18-20 are now elsewhere. I could simply point to the transfer rules, but even then half of these kids wound up in programs/conferences that are equal to or below SBU. What the hell.
Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: Checkmate on November 10, 2021, 02:06:22 pm
Other Seawolves in other places ...

- Andrew Garcia's now at Kent State. They tip off Friday. He's back working with Randal Holt, who's an assistant there.
- Michael Almonacy (App State) had 9 points on 4-of-15 shooting in a season-opening loss to Iona.
- Makale Foreman was a DNP in Cal's loss to UC San Diego.
- Jeff Otchere was a DNP in UTRGV's win over Texas A&M International.
- Anthony Ochefu was a DNP in Delaware's loss to Davidson.
- Jules Moor had two points in four minutes during Stephen F. Austin's win over LSU-Alexandria.
- Corry Long (SNHU) and Tavin Pierre-Philippe (New Haven) tip on Friday.
- It was reported that Miles Latimer transferred from Bucknell to Bryant but he's not listed on the roster.
- Same with Leighton Elliott-Sewell at STAC. Not listed.
Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: OldSeawolf on November 10, 2021, 06:20:04 am
Mo Gueye 2 points, 8 rebounds in his Pitt debut. The Citadel wins by 15 at the road.


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Wish him well, but we all wondered, why Pitt???
Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: Checkmate on November 10, 2021, 05:52:35 am
Mo Gueye 2 points, 8 rebounds in his Pitt debut. The Citadel wins by 15 at the road.


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Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: VA_Seawolf on September 10, 2021, 11:46:26 am
https://gobearcats.com/sports/mens-basketball/roster/staff/jordan-mckenzie/100

Wishing him well. We all gave him a hard time as a player at times, but he could defend and handle the ball well.
Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: guest410 on September 06, 2021, 12:45:48 pm
https://gobearcats.com/sports/mens-basketball/roster/staff/jordan-mckenzie/100
Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: Hammertime on September 02, 2021, 06:29:51 am
I guess that unforgivable baseball bungle finished off Huchthausen.

I guess SBU took one for the team. Amy was a do-nothing commissioner since her hire. This new Commissioner has a nice resume. Hopefully, he believes in conference expansions and possibly brings in FCS football.

You would want to see an AmericaEast football deal? The CAA and the AmericaEast are two really bad conferences. That would be worse.

I think merging the AE and CAA for all sports would be better than doing nothing. This new AE appears to be a go-getter, whereas Amy was a leach and a nothing.
Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: guest419 on September 01, 2021, 08:57:20 pm
I guess that unforgivable baseball bungle finished off Huchthausen.

I guess SBU took one for the team. Amy was a do-nothing commissioner since her hire. This new Commissioner has a nice resume. Hopefully, he believes in conference expansions and possibly brings in FCS football.

You would want to see an AmericaEast football deal? The CAA and the AmericaEast are two really bad conferences. That would be worse.
Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: Hammertime on August 16, 2021, 05:28:00 am
I guess that unforgivable baseball bungle finished off Huchthausen.

I guess SBU took one for the team. Amy was a do-nothing commissioner since her hire. This new Commissioner has a nice resume. Hopefully, he believes in conference expansions and possibly brings in FCS football.
Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: OldSeawolf on August 15, 2021, 04:12:39 pm
I guess that unforgivable baseball bungle finished off Huchthausen.
Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: Knicksbu99 on August 15, 2021, 03:46:55 pm
I really like this hire
Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: guest410 on August 12, 2021, 02:16:04 pm
Say hello to Brad Walker, the new AE commissioner.

https://americaeast.com/news/2021/8/12/commissioner_announcement-Brad_Walker.aspx
Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: Hammertime on August 11, 2021, 08:10:13 pm
Playing P5 schools for a big check is worth it especially when your athletic department cant raise money.

Yes, Humiliate the team, coaches, university, and conference. Not to mention. Putting these players at risk of getting hurt because P5 school athletes are bigger and stronger than FCS players Esepically against SBU players.

The better plan is to schedule two G5 games against schools like UCONN, UMASS, Buffalo, etc.. Maine does this year in and year out, and it works.. Hey!! SBU might actually win a game or two and make a name for themself.
Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: guest419 on August 11, 2021, 05:45:43 pm
Playing P5 schools for a big check is worth it especially when your athletic department cant raise money.
Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: ry1nik on May 31, 2021, 10:11:35 am
There’s not only a financial benefit to playing P5 schools but a recruiting one as well. Many if not most prospects value the chance to play against a storied P5 program.
Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: VA_Seawolf on May 31, 2021, 02:24:42 am
This will do absolutely nothing to close the floodgates.

https://twitter.com/JonRothstein/status/1397219530968076288?s=20

Any mid-major that chooses not to play high-major due to fears of live evaluation should have their athletic administration fired immediately. It's a disservice to the school, the athletes, and the program overall. That money goes a long way, seriously. He's referring to CBB, not sure if CFB will see the same thing, but I'll use CFB as an example anyway. Last year's SBU at FAU game would've netted Stony Brook $400,000. After expenses for travel, lodging, salaries, and whatnot, the school would probably bank close to $200,000 (very rough guess, no idea how far off it is.) That's a **** ton of money. Some FCS schools schedule two FBS teams a year to pad the department's budget, and it's a brilliant move. It makes a lot of money and helps offset the cost of salaries, plus it gets the team's greater media attention. SBU played Virginia in basketball a couple of years ago and was supposed to play Florida this past season. Not sure how much the school received/would receive for those games, but usually, it's in the low six figures for CBB. Again, that's six figures more than SBU gets for playing Seton Hall two years ago. Mid-majors must continue to play higher-tier teams; otherwise, their budgets will shrink. Fans want to see them go against the best. No one wants to pay to see SBU play Bing every year and no great team outside the conference. Stop the dumb **** and worrying about losing players because the teams will scout them at the game and worry about losing players because your facilities are not excellent and the coaching staff is ****.

SBU is pulling in a whopping $625,000 to head to Eugene, Oregon and get royaly **** by the Ducks third string players. Worth it though.

I agree with you entirely when it comes to mid-major playing up major schools. The money is very important for the mid-major athletic budget and it gives the players exposure to play better teams. A win-win for both institutions. It worked for years, why change it now.

I don't totally agree with how SB usually schedules top-tier football schools for the one big payday. Why not try to schedule two G5 schools and make the same money. Like Maine usually does every year. You have a chance of beating UCONN, UMASS, Toledo, Eastern Michigan, Buffalo, etc.. not once, but twice. To fly across the country to get your ass handed to you and make your athletes, school, look like a jackass for money, to me is foolish. Maine has no problem finding G5 schools to play every year, Why cnt SB?

I always thought the same.

We should play more Temple, UConn, UMass, Buffalo, etc as opposed to powerhouses like Oregon.

I wouldn't mind both, but that would be hard on the players. It depends. Financially I see the draw of playing Oregon, but the fan in me would like to see more winnable games against G5 schools that are a reasonable distance away. I think every four years where we get the 12th game we should go ahead and schedule the P5 bodybag game. Otherwise we'd probably be better served to limit it to AAC and MAC teams who we'd have a shot against.
Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: Hammertime on May 26, 2021, 06:33:37 pm
This will do absolutely nothing to close the floodgates.

https://twitter.com/JonRothstein/status/1397219530968076288?s=20

Any mid-major that chooses not to play high-major due to fears of live evaluation should have their athletic administration fired immediately. It's a disservice to the school, the athletes, and the program overall. That money goes a long way, seriously. He's referring to CBB, not sure if CFB will see the same thing, but I'll use CFB as an example anyway. Last year's SBU at FAU game would've netted Stony Brook $400,000. After expenses for travel, lodging, salaries, and whatnot, the school would probably bank close to $200,000 (very rough guess, no idea how far off it is.) That's a **** ton of money. Some FCS schools schedule two FBS teams a year to pad the department's budget, and it's a brilliant move. It makes a lot of money and helps offset the cost of salaries, plus it gets the team's greater media attention. SBU played Virginia in basketball a couple of years ago and was supposed to play Florida this past season. Not sure how much the school received/would receive for those games, but usually, it's in the low six figures for CBB. Again, that's six figures more than SBU gets for playing Seton Hall two years ago. Mid-majors must continue to play higher-tier teams; otherwise, their budgets will shrink. Fans want to see them go against the best. No one wants to pay to see SBU play Bing every year and no great team outside the conference. Stop the dumb **** and worrying about losing players because the teams will scout them at the game and worry about losing players because your facilities are not excellent and the coaching staff is ****.

SBU is pulling in a whopping $625,000 to head to Eugene, Oregon and get royaly **** by the Ducks third string players. Worth it though.

I agree with you entirely when it comes to mid-major playing up major schools. The money is very important for the mid-major athletic budget and it gives the players exposure to play better teams. A win-win for both institutions. It worked for years, why change it now.

I don't totally agree with how SB usually schedules top-tier football schools for the one big payday. Why not try to schedule two G5 schools and make the same money. Like Maine usually does every year. You have a chance of beating UCONN, UMASS, Toledo, Eastern Michigan, Buffalo, etc.. not once, but twice. To fly across the country to get your ass handed to you and make your athletes, school, look like a jackass for money, to me is foolish. Maine has no problem finding G5 schools to play every year, Why cnt SB?

I always thought the same.

We should play more Temple, UConn, UMass, Buffalo, etc as opposed to powerhouses like Oregon.

So this year UMass is hosting two FCS teams, Rhode Island and Maine, paying out $350,000 and $300,000 respectively. UConn is hosting Holy Cross and Yale, paying out $425,000 and $285,000. Temple and Buffalo are not playing an FCS team this year. (All figures courtesy of our friends HERO Sports https://herosports.com/fcs-football-2021-fbs-payouts-bzbz/)

Stony Brook is playing at UMass in 2022, and the exact payout is unknown at this time. Most of the money will go towards paying Morgan State, who heads to Long Island roughly two months later and will receive $120,000 for the game.

Most of these games are planed years in advance. SH should of had these local FBS schools locked up, year after year playing teams that are in the G5.
Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: guest410 on May 26, 2021, 05:55:38 pm
This will do absolutely nothing to close the floodgates.

https://twitter.com/JonRothstein/status/1397219530968076288?s=20

Any mid-major that chooses not to play high-major due to fears of live evaluation should have their athletic administration fired immediately. It's a disservice to the school, the athletes, and the program overall. That money goes a long way, seriously. He's referring to CBB, not sure if CFB will see the same thing, but I'll use CFB as an example anyway. Last year's SBU at FAU game would've netted Stony Brook $400,000. After expenses for travel, lodging, salaries, and whatnot, the school would probably bank close to $200,000 (very rough guess, no idea how far off it is.) That's a **** ton of money. Some FCS schools schedule two FBS teams a year to pad the department's budget, and it's a brilliant move. It makes a lot of money and helps offset the cost of salaries, plus it gets the team's greater media attention. SBU played Virginia in basketball a couple of years ago and was supposed to play Florida this past season. Not sure how much the school received/would receive for those games, but usually, it's in the low six figures for CBB. Again, that's six figures more than SBU gets for playing Seton Hall two years ago. Mid-majors must continue to play higher-tier teams; otherwise, their budgets will shrink. Fans want to see them go against the best. No one wants to pay to see SBU play Bing every year and no great team outside the conference. Stop the dumb **** and worrying about losing players because the teams will scout them at the game and worry about losing players because your facilities are not excellent and the coaching staff is ****.

SBU is pulling in a whopping $625,000 to head to Eugene, Oregon and get royaly **** by the Ducks third string players. Worth it though.

I agree with you entirely when it comes to mid-major playing up major schools. The money is very important for the mid-major athletic budget and it gives the players exposure to play better teams. A win-win for both institutions. It worked for years, why change it now.

I don't totally agree with how SB usually schedules top-tier football schools for the one big payday. Why not try to schedule two G5 schools and make the same money. Like Maine usually does every year. You have a chance of beating UCONN, UMASS, Toledo, Eastern Michigan, Buffalo, etc.. not once, but twice. To fly across the country to get your ass handed to you and make your athletes, school, look like a jackass for money, to me is foolish. Maine has no problem finding G5 schools to play every year, Why cnt SB?

I always thought the same.

We should play more Temple, UConn, UMass, Buffalo, etc as opposed to powerhouses like Oregon.

So this year UMass is hosting two FCS teams, Rhode Island and Maine, paying out $350,000 and $300,000 respectively. UConn is hosting Holy Cross and Yale, paying out $425,000 and $285,000. Temple and Buffalo are not playing an FCS team this year. (All figures courtesy of our friends HERO Sports https://herosports.com/fcs-football-2021-fbs-payouts-bzbz/)

Stony Brook is playing at UMass in 2022, and the exact payout is unknown at this time. Most of the money will go towards paying Morgan State, who heads to Long Island roughly two months later and will receive $120,000 for the game.
Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: ecasadoSBU on May 26, 2021, 12:30:01 pm
This will do absolutely nothing to close the floodgates.

https://twitter.com/JonRothstein/status/1397219530968076288?s=20

Any mid-major that chooses not to play high-major due to fears of live evaluation should have their athletic administration fired immediately. It's a disservice to the school, the athletes, and the program overall. That money goes a long way, seriously. He's referring to CBB, not sure if CFB will see the same thing, but I'll use CFB as an example anyway. Last year's SBU at FAU game would've netted Stony Brook $400,000. After expenses for travel, lodging, salaries, and whatnot, the school would probably bank close to $200,000 (very rough guess, no idea how far off it is.) That's a **** ton of money. Some FCS schools schedule two FBS teams a year to pad the department's budget, and it's a brilliant move. It makes a lot of money and helps offset the cost of salaries, plus it gets the team's greater media attention. SBU played Virginia in basketball a couple of years ago and was supposed to play Florida this past season. Not sure how much the school received/would receive for those games, but usually, it's in the low six figures for CBB. Again, that's six figures more than SBU gets for playing Seton Hall two years ago. Mid-majors must continue to play higher-tier teams; otherwise, their budgets will shrink. Fans want to see them go against the best. No one wants to pay to see SBU play Bing every year and no great team outside the conference. Stop the dumb **** and worrying about losing players because the teams will scout them at the game and worry about losing players because your facilities are not excellent and the coaching staff is ****.

SBU is pulling in a whopping $625,000 to head to Eugene, Oregon and get royaly **** by the Ducks third string players. Worth it though.

I agree with you entirely when it comes to mid-major playing up major schools. The money is very important for the mid-major athletic budget and it gives the players exposure to play better teams. A win-win for both institutions. It worked for years, why change it now.

I don't totally agree with how SB usually schedules top-tier football schools for the one big payday. Why not try to schedule two G5 schools and make the same money. Like Maine usually does every year. You have a chance of beating UCONN, UMASS, Toledo, Eastern Michigan, Buffalo, etc.. not once, but twice. To fly across the country to get your ass handed to you and make your athletes, school, look like a jackass for money, to me is foolish. Maine has no problem finding G5 schools to play every year, Why cnt SB?

I always thought the same.

We should play more Temple, UConn, UMass, Buffalo, etc as opposed to powerhouses like Oregon.

Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: Hammertime on May 26, 2021, 05:21:38 am
This will do absolutely nothing to close the floodgates.

https://twitter.com/JonRothstein/status/1397219530968076288?s=20

Any mid-major that chooses not to play high-major due to fears of live evaluation should have their athletic administration fired immediately. It's a disservice to the school, the athletes, and the program overall. That money goes a long way, seriously. He's referring to CBB, not sure if CFB will see the same thing, but I'll use CFB as an example anyway. Last year's SBU at FAU game would've netted Stony Brook $400,000. After expenses for travel, lodging, salaries, and whatnot, the school would probably bank close to $200,000 (very rough guess, no idea how far off it is.) That's a **** ton of money. Some FCS schools schedule two FBS teams a year to pad the department's budget, and it's a brilliant move. It makes a lot of money and helps offset the cost of salaries, plus it gets the team's greater media attention. SBU played Virginia in basketball a couple of years ago and was supposed to play Florida this past season. Not sure how much the school received/would receive for those games, but usually, it's in the low six figures for CBB. Again, that's six figures more than SBU gets for playing Seton Hall two years ago. Mid-majors must continue to play higher-tier teams; otherwise, their budgets will shrink. Fans want to see them go against the best. No one wants to pay to see SBU play Bing every year and no great team outside the conference. Stop the dumb **** and worrying about losing players because the teams will scout them at the game and worry about losing players because your facilities are not excellent and the coaching staff is ****.

SBU is pulling in a whopping $625,000 to head to Eugene, Oregon and get royaly **** by the Ducks third string players. Worth it though.

I agree with you entirely when it comes to mid-major playing up major schools. The money is very important for the mid-major athletic budget and it gives the players exposure to play better teams. A win-win for both institutions. It worked for years, why change it now.

I don't totally agree with how SB usually schedules top-tier football schools for the one big payday. Why not try to schedule two G5 schools and make the same money. Like Maine usually does every year. You have a chance of beating UCONN, UMASS, Toledo, Eastern Michigan, Buffalo, etc.. not once, but twice. To fly across the country to get your ass handed to you and make your athletes, school, look like a jackass for money, to me is foolish. Maine has no problem finding G5 schools to play every year, Why cnt SB?
Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: guest410 on May 25, 2021, 05:22:56 pm
This will do absolutely nothing to close the floodgates.

https://twitter.com/JonRothstein/status/1397219530968076288?s=20

Any mid-major that chooses not to play high-major due to fears of live evaluation should have their athletic administration fired immediately. It's a disservice to the school, the athletes, and the program overall. That money goes a long way, seriously. He's referring to CBB, not sure if CFB will see the same thing, but I'll use CFB as an example anyway. Last year's SBU at FAU game would've netted Stony Brook $400,000. After expenses for travel, lodging, salaries, and whatnot, the school would probably bank close to $200,000 (very rough guess, no idea how far off it is.) That's a **** ton of money. Some FCS schools schedule two FBS teams a year to pad the department's budget, and it's a brilliant move. It makes a lot of money and helps offset the cost of salaries, plus it gets the team's greater media attention. SBU played Virginia in basketball a couple of years ago and was supposed to play Florida this past season. Not sure how much the school received/would receive for those games, but usually, it's in the low six figures for CBB. Again, that's six figures more than SBU gets for playing Seton Hall two years ago. Mid-majors must continue to play higher-tier teams; otherwise, their budgets will shrink. Fans want to see them go against the best. No one wants to pay to see SBU play Bing every year and no great team outside the conference. Stop the dumb **** and worrying about losing players because the teams will scout them at the game and worry about losing players because your facilities are not excellent and the coaching staff is ****.

SBU is pulling in a whopping $625,000 to head to Eugene, Oregon and get royaly **** by the Ducks third string players. Worth it though.
Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: Checkmate on May 25, 2021, 02:00:24 pm
This will do absolutely nothing to close the floodgates.

https://twitter.com/JonRothstein/status/1397219530968076288?s=20
Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: Chairman of the Board on May 11, 2021, 10:20:07 am
its ok!  i dont think there' a right/wrong place for it- that's merely where it started and i simply added on to it!

wanted you to have the whole story.
Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: ibosbu on May 11, 2021, 08:58:50 am
My bad Chair. I don’t know how I could miss a whole thread on it!!
Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: Chairman of the Board on May 11, 2021, 07:24:59 am
http://sbufan.createaforum.com/stony-brook-basketball/sexual-assault-at-america-east-conference-school/msg33415/#msg33415
Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: Accelerator on May 10, 2021, 10:43:40 pm
The one thing that annoys me right now is that Kendall Ware has never specifically named Anthony Lamb as her rapist. Other girls have said that Anthony Lamb **** them dating back to high school, but those are all social media posts and won't be taken as seriously as headline news.

Ware said that she refuses to name her rapist because she doesn't want to deal with retaliation, but at some point, you NEED to officially out him so that it can be on the record and used as evidence. The Houston Rockets aren't going to release Lamb because of some anonymous social media stories, but they will be more pressured to with an official newspaper article. Vermont won't face any consequences until it is on the record that Lamb is a rapist and not simply through social media.
Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: ibosbu on May 10, 2021, 10:23:13 pm
I dont know if you are following the Vermont MBB sexual assault story:

https://www.burlingtonfreepress.com/story/news/education/university-of-vermont/2021/05/03/uvm-protest-kendall-ware-sexual-assault-handling-outrages-students-uvm-empowering-survivors-metoo/4927912001/
https://www.burlingtonfreepress.com/story/news/2021/05/07/university-vermont-athletics-director-responds-students-demand-change-sexual-assault-cases/4987928001/

Our own Adam already blogged about it back in February:
https://brook.land/a-tale-of-two-responses-to-sexual-assault-allegations-ebe2897bdfe9

infuriating and appalling if UVM really tried to hide it all.

Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: Hammertime on May 10, 2021, 05:40:06 am
I would support the idea of dropping football as well. It doesn’t do much to boost the university’s reputation and I doubt it ever will…especially in light of the looming NYS fiscal crisis. Use the money for faculty and scholarships.

Hire the right personnel and it would. Keeping Chucky Cheese as SB HC does nothing for the football program. I was watching the SHSU and JMU game yesterday, and JMU HC is a former wide receive coach under Nick Saban, from Alabama. If JMU can hire talented assistant coaches from a Power 5 conference, why can't SH?

Cignetti is actually paid less than Chuck. It's funny, back in 2017, Chuck made more money than Lance Leipold, the then coach of Buffalo. Sensing a pattern here? Someone is overpaid.

Exactly. This is the BS nonsense that goes on with the NYS, "boys club". Just short of corruption. It is all about who you know and if you are liked or not. For some unknown reason, Chucky has strong ties in this system. The only way it changes is if people stand up to the university and demand a change or inquiry into who is behind keeping this guy in as HC..
Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: guest410 on May 09, 2021, 10:31:55 am
I would support the idea of dropping football as well. It doesn’t do much to boost the university’s reputation and I doubt it ever will…especially in light of the looming NYS fiscal crisis. Use the money for faculty and scholarships.

Hire the right personnel and it would. Keeping Chucky Cheese as SB HC does nothing for the football program. I was watching the SHSU and JMU game yesterday, and JMU HC is a former wide receive coach under Nick Saban, from Alabama. If JMU can hire talented assistant coaches from a Power 5 conference, why can't SH?

Cignetti is actually paid less than Chuck. It's funny, back in 2017, Chuck made more money than Lance Leipold, the then coach of Buffalo. Sensing a pattern here? Someone is overpaid.
Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: Hammertime on May 09, 2021, 06:13:42 am
I would support the idea of dropping football as well. It doesn’t do much to boost the university’s reputation and I doubt it ever will…especially in light of the looming NYS fiscal crisis. Use the money for faculty and scholarships.

Hire the right personnel and it would. Keeping Chucky Cheese as SB HC does nothing for the football program. I was watching the SHSU and JMU game yesterday, and JMU HC is a former wide receive coach under Nick Saban, from Alabama. If JMU can hire talented assistant coaches from a Power 5 conference, why can't SH?
Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: Chairman of the Board on May 08, 2021, 03:28:46 pm
Oh hellllll no. We're not dropping football. Cut Men's Soccer, swimming, and a bunch of other stuff, but don't you dare touch football. Can't believe Hartford is actually dropping. I figured that was just a baseless rumor...


Guess it was a good thing we grabbed NJIT when we did.

SB would still have to maintain a total of 14 sports to stay D1. Either 7 for boys and 7 for girls. They can't just start cutting out other sports and keep the well-known sports going.

Hartford University must be hemorrhaging in all sports. This is why the school needs to cut out scholarships.

correction- nearly everyone is hemorrhaging in all sports.  except for maybe the top 25 programs.
Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: ry1nik on May 08, 2021, 07:07:51 am
I would support the idea of dropping football as well. It doesn’t do much to boost the university’s reputation and I doubt it ever will…especially in light of the looming NYS fiscal crisis. Use the money for faculty and scholarships.
Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: Hammertime on May 08, 2021, 05:51:42 am
Oh hellllll no. We're not dropping football. Cut Men's Soccer, swimming, and a bunch of other stuff, but don't you dare touch football. Can't believe Hartford is actually dropping. I figured that was just a baseless rumor...


Guess it was a good thing we grabbed NJIT when we did.

SB would still have to maintain a total of 14 sports to stay D1. Either 7 for boys and 7 for girls. They can't just start cutting out other sports and keep the well-known sports going.

Hartford University must be hemorrhaging in all sports. This is why the school needs to cut out scholarships.
Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: VA_Seawolf on May 07, 2021, 11:52:06 pm
Oh hellllll no. We're not dropping football. Cut Men's Soccer, swimming, and a bunch of other stuff, but don't you dare touch football. Can't believe Hartford is actually dropping. I figured that was just a baseless rumor...


Guess it was a good thing we grabbed NJIT when we did. 
Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: Chairman of the Board on May 07, 2021, 08:01:23 am
not crazy.

but i would ask- is there a middle ground here- perhaps dropping football down (or altogether)?  isnt that like half the budget?

note that hartford doesn't field football. https://www.hartford.edu/about/athletics-transition.aspx
Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: Hammertime on May 07, 2021, 04:55:20 am
https://www.courant.com/sports/college/hc-sp-university-of-hartford-goes-div-iii-20210507-jva2n5pi5nfvvnt2wyr2cz3jde-story.html

"The University of Hartford Board of Regents voted Thursday to transition the university’s athletic program from Division I to Division III.

The university will submit to the NCAA a formal request to join Division III in January 2022 and hopes to be reclassified no later than Sept. 1, 2025. The school said in a statement that scholarships and coaching contracts will be honored."

It's a scary thought but the more I think of it the more it makes sense now. If it weren't for the girls in sports. SB athletics might be better off dropping down a division or two. I mean. They clearly are regressing in every men's sports since 2016. Really, since AD Fiore got the boot.

Who's going to continue to fund the athletics department. NYS has no interest in using tax dollars to do so. That money is better spent on supporting welfare and illegal immigration, as per Cuomo, not me.

Call me crazy, and that's fine but if this new President is anti-sports, and it is starting to look that way, I definitely could see SBU following the likes of Hartford university.
Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: guest410 on May 06, 2021, 10:08:14 pm
https://www.courant.com/sports/college/hc-sp-university-of-hartford-goes-div-iii-20210507-jva2n5pi5nfvvnt2wyr2cz3jde-story.html

"The University of Hartford Board of Regents voted Thursday to transition the university’s athletic program from Division I to Division III.

The university will submit to the NCAA a formal request to join Division III in January 2022 and hopes to be reclassified no later than Sept. 1, 2025. The school said in a statement that scholarships and coaching contracts will be honored."
Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: guest410 on April 19, 2021, 02:58:52 pm
It appears as though two former UMBC players are heading to Utah State with Ryan Odom.
Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: Checkmate on April 12, 2021, 07:14:48 pm
https://twitter.com/JonRothstein/status/1381648499704483840?s=20
It’s weird. You see these other programs hemorrhaging some of their premier guys – Smith, Mills, Cooks, Rogers, Horvath, Kennedy, Sutherlin etc – and you’d think it would affect them adversely. But there are SO MANY transfers out there that it feels like the talent may not drop off. If we get those transfers AND keep our nucleus, hey, that’s pretty good.

Edit: Now Eytle-Rock too.


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Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: guest410 on April 12, 2021, 06:09:45 pm
https://twitter.com/JonRothstein/status/1381648499704483840?s=20
Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: Checkmate on April 12, 2021, 04:45:12 pm
https://twitter.com/UMBCAthletics/status/1381654954147000322

Former Penn State interim HC Jim Ferry is the new HC at UMBC

Welcome to the next Vermont boys!!

UMBC got themselves a really good coach who can recruit.

I dunno. He wasn't given the permanent job at Penn State, he had very poor results at Duquesne, and while the two tournament appearances for LIU were great, it's not like he lit the world on fire there before. The numbers aren't everything, but they're something. And Ferry's track record isn't unlike Geno's.
Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: guest410 on April 12, 2021, 04:08:43 pm
https://twitter.com/VerbalCommits/status/1381380420281974784

I wonder if the major players on UMBC that entered the Portal (Akin, Horvath, Rogers) will change their minds now.

Can't speak to their actions, but one player entered AFTER her was announced.

https://www.verbalcommits.com/players/keondre-kennedy
Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: OldSeawolf on April 12, 2021, 02:31:57 pm
https://twitter.com/VerbalCommits/status/1381380420281974784

I wonder if the major players on UMBC that entered the Portal (Akin, Horvath, Rogers) will change their minds now.
Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: Hammertime on April 12, 2021, 01:36:27 pm
https://twitter.com/UMBCAthletics/status/1381654954147000322

Former Penn State interim HC Jim Ferry is the new HC at UMBC

Welcome to the next Vermont boys!!

UMBC got themselves a really good coach who can recruit.
Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: guest410 on April 12, 2021, 01:20:22 pm
https://twitter.com/UMBCAthletics/status/1381654954147000322

Former Penn State interim HC Jim Ferry is the new HC at UMBC
Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: guest410 on April 11, 2021, 06:58:00 pm
https://twitter.com/VerbalCommits/status/1381380420281974784
Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: Wolfie on April 10, 2021, 01:52:18 pm
Odom leaves UMBC for Utah State. Good for him. AE loses a good coach.

Since 2016, the AE has seen how many head coaches fired or hired away? I'm fairly new to AE stuff, only following since I got to SBU in '18 so feel free to fill in any missing names.

Steve Piekell - From SBU to Rutgers
Jeff Boals - From SBU to Ohio
Aki Thomas - Fired by UMBC
Ryan Odom - From UMBC to Utah State
Bob Walsh - Fired by Maine
Tommy Dempsey - Fired by Bing
Will Brown - Fired by Albany

Is that it, or am I missing anyone?

That sounds about right i think. The quality of play had dropped a lot. It seems like GF just sends the team out onto the court to play street ball. Will Brown truly coached and he coached very well.  Gallagher too.

Geno Ford was 4-1 against Will Brown.

GF also lost to Lowell and Hartford and doesnt coach. The secret is out on this con artist.

Ryan Odom lost to Lowell and John Becker lost to Hartford. But your statement was that Will Brown truly coached.  Obviously not as well in 4 of the 5 games vs Stony Brook.  You can believe GF is a poor coach.  Your opinion and maybe even a fair assessment. But calling him a con artist is over the top and deflects from your previous rationale.
Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: Hammertime on April 10, 2021, 10:20:40 am
Odom leaves UMBC for Utah State. Good for him. AE loses a good coach.

Since 2016, the AE has seen how many head coaches fired or hired away? I'm fairly new to AE stuff, only following since I got to SBU in '18 so feel free to fill in any missing names.

Steve Piekell - From SBU to Rutgers
Jeff Boals - From SBU to Ohio
Aki Thomas - Fired by UMBC
Ryan Odom - From UMBC to Utah State
Bob Walsh - Fired by Maine
Tommy Dempsey - Fired by Bing
Will Brown - Fired by Albany

Is that it, or am I missing anyone?

That sounds about right i think. The quality of play had dropped a lot. It seems like GF just sends the team out onto the court to play street ball. Will Brown truly coached and he coached very well.  Gallagher too.

Geno Ford was 4-1 against Will Brown.

GF also lost to Lowell and Hartford and doesnt coach. The secret is out on this con artist.

It doesnt matter anymore. He will be sitting on a ton of cash at the end of his contract.
Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: guest419 on April 10, 2021, 10:01:52 am
Odom leaves UMBC for Utah State. Good for him. AE loses a good coach.

Since 2016, the AE has seen how many head coaches fired or hired away? I'm fairly new to AE stuff, only following since I got to SBU in '18 so feel free to fill in any missing names.

Steve Piekell - From SBU to Rutgers
Jeff Boals - From SBU to Ohio
Aki Thomas - Fired by UMBC
Ryan Odom - From UMBC to Utah State
Bob Walsh - Fired by Maine
Tommy Dempsey - Fired by Bing
Will Brown - Fired by Albany

Is that it, or am I missing anyone?

That sounds about right i think. The quality of play had dropped a lot. It seems like GF just sends the team out onto the court to play street ball. Will Brown truly coached and he coached very well.  Gallagher too.

Geno Ford was 4-1 against Will Brown.

GF also lost to Lowell and Hartford and doesnt coach. The secret is out on this con artist.
Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: Wolfie on April 10, 2021, 07:34:38 am
Odom leaves UMBC for Utah State. Good for him. AE loses a good coach.

Since 2016, the AE has seen how many head coaches fired or hired away? I'm fairly new to AE stuff, only following since I got to SBU in '18 so feel free to fill in any missing names.

Steve Piekell - From SBU to Rutgers
Jeff Boals - From SBU to Ohio
Aki Thomas - Fired by UMBC
Ryan Odom - From UMBC to Utah State
Bob Walsh - Fired by Maine
Tommy Dempsey - Fired by Bing
Will Brown - Fired by Albany

Is that it, or am I missing anyone?

That sounds about right i think. The quality of play had dropped a lot. It seems like GF just sends the team out onto the court to play street ball. Will Brown truly coached and he coached very well.  Gallagher too.

Geno Ford was 4-1 against Will Brown.
Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: ibosbu on April 07, 2021, 08:27:43 pm
Speedy is the new coach at our Long Island rival.
Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: Hammertime on April 07, 2021, 05:22:12 am
I’m not a fan of Geno Ford. But if he takes us to the dance, and gets an upset win in the tournament, even by fluke, I don’t care if he gets a contract extension. I would love to get a win in the tournament. It will be priceless.

You should be very concerned if GF gets an extension on his contract. He sucks as an HC. If by a fluke, SB makes it to the big dance, that does not change the fact he is a terrible coach and athletes dont want to be here to play and get a good education. SBU needs a coach with chemistry. GF has neither.

I love SH. He is a good man and is very smart, but he made a mistake by allowing GF to con SH into hiring him as their HC.
Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: Accelerator on April 06, 2021, 10:51:01 pm
Ugh, don't remind me of the BU game. Huge halftime lead and then we let up 14 unanswered points – to the same player! F'in John Holland. How do you let one man go on his own 14-0 run against you. One player scoring 14 points in a row. That game still haunts me.
Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: OldSeawolf on April 06, 2021, 09:03:22 pm
Geno seems to me like a nice guy personally, but his in-game coaching abilities are somewhat lacking, and became painfully obvious this year, with the big drop off on talent.

Pikiell was a really good guy, great recruiter, great ambassador for the university, and despite his overall, was a marginal in-game coach, particularly in big games.  Anyone who saw us lose 4 Finals (the BU and UA games in particular) and saw him blow a late 10-pt Rutgers lead against Houston in the 2nd round this year, would most certainly agree.
Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: Accelerator on April 06, 2021, 08:18:23 pm
Pikiell losing in the America East finals 4 times in a row has no bearing on what’s expected from now on. Completely new regime, new players, etc. We don’t enter the AE finals with a disadvantage because of our record in them a decade ago. And I would know, I had to suffer through that stage as a student.

Pikes is still 10 times the coach Geno will ever be, but let’s not act like Pikes didn’t have his own share of flaws too.
Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: Chairman of the Board on April 06, 2021, 07:49:46 pm
id love to think we can make the dance but the fact is we can't get out of the first round.  of the AE tournament.

and if we do- what does our record look like in the finals?
Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: guest410 on April 06, 2021, 07:20:34 pm
Wow, brain fart on my part forgetting UMBC is an AE team.
Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: OldSeawolf on April 06, 2021, 07:13:56 pm
That’s a lot of IF’s there. When was the last time an AE team won a game in the tournament (that’s not rhetorical, quiet serious, I have no idea when it last happened). GF won’t lead a team to the promise land, not gonna happen. He’s not the type of coach to do it.

Umbc over VA in 2018.  Vermont over Syracuse in 2005.
Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: ibosbu on April 06, 2021, 07:02:46 pm
I was just going by the IFs others suggested which would lead to his contract extension. I would welcome those IFs. Although I don’t see it happening, ie upset tourney win. But with Olaniyi on board, making to the tournament is a realistic goal.
Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: guest410 on April 06, 2021, 06:58:35 pm
That’s a lot of IF’s there. When was the last time an AE team won a game in the tournament (that’s not rhetorical, quiet serious, I have no idea when it last happened). GF won’t lead a team to the promise land, not gonna happen. He’s not the type of coach to do it.
Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: ibosbu on April 06, 2021, 06:50:18 pm
I’m not a fan of Geno Ford. But if he takes us to the dance, and gets an upset win in the tournament, even by fluke, I don’t care if he gets a contract extension. I would love to get a win in the tournament. It will be priceless.
Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: guest419 on April 06, 2021, 04:16:24 pm
Agreed. AE is surely a mini league for coaches. And I would love to have that headache for us. Which would mean we have an awesome successful coach... eyed by higher programs.

Will Geno Ford’s next gig be a high Major or power program or is this his peak? With Oliniyi on board, this is the time to change my, and most of ours, opinion that extending his contract was a mistake. I hope he finds success soon and leaves us for higher paying job, which would mean we did good under him and probably danced.

No P5/High Major AD in their right mind would hire Geno Ford at this point.

Hope he has a fluke year where we win the AE and upset someone in the tournament so a P5 school foolishly gives him way too much money and takes that hand grenade off our hands.

The problem is SH would foolishly give GF an extention. 
Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: Checkmate on April 06, 2021, 11:09:07 am
Agreed. AE is surely a mini league for coaches. And I would love to have that headache for us. Which would mean we have an awesome successful coach... eyed by higher programs.

Will Geno Ford’s next gig be a high Major or power program or is this his peak? With Oliniyi on board, this is the time to change my, and most of ours, opinion that extending his contract was a mistake. I hope he finds success soon and leaves us for higher paying job, which would mean we did good under him and probably danced.

No P5/High Major AD in their right mind would hire Geno Ford at this point.

Or at any point. I dont care if SB wins the AE. No P5 school is going to hire GF. He cant recruit athletes out of HS. he relies on transfers.

So does everyone now.

https://sports.yahoo.com/why-baylors-transfer-heavy-formula-offers-glimpse-of-the-future-063704592.html
Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: Hammertime on April 06, 2021, 05:54:17 am
Agreed. AE is surely a mini league for coaches. And I would love to have that headache for us. Which would mean we have an awesome successful coach... eyed by higher programs.

Will Geno Ford’s next gig be a high Major or power program or is this his peak? With Oliniyi on board, this is the time to change my, and most of ours, opinion that extending his contract was a mistake. I hope he finds success soon and leaves us for higher paying job, which would mean we did good under him and probably danced.

No P5/High Major AD in their right mind would hire Geno Ford at this point.

Or at any point. I dont care if SB wins the AE. No P5 school is going to hire GF. He cant recruit athletes out of HS. he relies on transfers.
Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: VA_Seawolf on April 06, 2021, 01:52:04 am
Agreed. AE is surely a mini league for coaches. And I would love to have that headache for us. Which would mean we have an awesome successful coach... eyed by higher programs.

Will Geno Ford’s next gig be a high Major or power program or is this his peak? With Oliniyi on board, this is the time to change my, and most of ours, opinion that extending his contract was a mistake. I hope he finds success soon and leaves us for higher paying job, which would mean we did good under him and probably danced.

No P5/High Major AD in their right mind would hire Geno Ford at this point.

Hope he has a fluke year where we win the AE and upset someone in the tournament so a P5 school foolishly gives him way too much money and takes that hand grenade off our hands.
Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: guest419 on April 05, 2021, 11:18:25 pm
Odom leaves UMBC for Utah State. Good for him. AE loses a good coach.

Since 2016, the AE has seen how many head coaches fired or hired away? I'm fairly new to AE stuff, only following since I got to SBU in '18 so feel free to fill in any missing names.

Steve Piekell - From SBU to Rutgers
Jeff Boals - From SBU to Ohio
Aki Thomas - Fired by UMBC
Ryan Odom - From UMBC to Utah State
Bob Walsh - Fired by Maine
Tommy Dempsey - Fired by Bing
Will Brown - Fired by Albany

Is that it, or am I missing anyone?

That sounds about right i think. The quality of play had dropped a lot. It seems like GF just sends the team out onto the court to play street ball. Will Brown truly coached and he coached very well.  Gallagher too. 
Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: ibosbu on April 05, 2021, 09:54:21 pm
I think that’s about it.

Odom leaves UMBC for Utah State. Good for him. AE loses a good coach.

Since 2016, the AE has seen how many head coaches fired or hired away? I'm fairly new to AE stuff, only following since I got to SBU in '18 so feel free to fill in any missing names.

Steve Piekell - From SBU to Rutgers
Jeff Boals - From SBU to Ohio
Aki Thomas - Fired by UMBC
Ryan Odom - From UMBC to Utah State
Bob Walsh - Fired by Maine
Tommy Dempsey - Fired by Bing
Will Brown - Fired by Albany

Is that it, or am I missing anyone?


Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: guest410 on April 05, 2021, 06:54:15 pm
Odom leaves UMBC for Utah State. Good for him. AE loses a good coach.

Since 2016, the AE has seen how many head coaches fired or hired away? I'm fairly new to AE stuff, only following since I got to SBU in '18 so feel free to fill in any missing names.

Steve Piekell - From SBU to Rutgers
Jeff Boals - From SBU to Ohio
Aki Thomas - Fired by UMBC
Ryan Odom - From UMBC to Utah State
Bob Walsh - Fired by Maine
Tommy Dempsey - Fired by Bing
Will Brown - Fired by Albany

Is that it, or am I missing anyone?

Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: guest410 on April 05, 2021, 06:37:06 pm
Agreed. AE is surely a mini league for coaches. And I would love to have that headache for us. Which would mean we have an awesome successful coach... eyed by higher programs.

Will Geno Ford’s next gig be a high Major or power program or is this his peak? With Oliniyi on board, this is the time to change my, and most of ours, opinion that extending his contract was a mistake. I hope he finds success soon and leaves us for higher paying job, which would mean we did good under him and probably danced.

No P5/High Major AD in their right mind would hire Geno Ford at this point.
Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: Knicksbu99 on April 05, 2021, 05:06:42 pm
If we go to the tournament no doubt he bolts for a higher job if they came calling. If he fails to get there during his contract I doubt he will get another head coaching job again as his resume is just mediocre. A high level assistant may be his ultimate path.He needs results this year team is too talented for anything less.
Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: ibosbu on April 05, 2021, 04:19:57 pm
Agreed. AE is surely a mini league for coaches. And I would love to have that headache for us. Which would mean we have an awesome successful coach... eyed by higher programs.

Will Geno Ford’s next gig be a high Major or power program or is this his peak? With Oliniyi on board, this is the time to change my, and most of ours, opinion that extending his contract was a mistake. I hope he finds success soon and leaves us for higher paying job, which would mean we did good under him and probably danced.
Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: OldSeawolf on April 05, 2021, 04:04:59 pm
Odom leaves UMBC for Utah State. Good for him. AE loses a good coach.

He's a really good coach, and deserves it, especially after the VA win.   Probably fair to say now that Odom was looking for a BIG jump for his next job, and that's why he probably stayed at UMBC after the VA win.  The AE is the minor leagues training ground for most of the other leagues.
Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: ibosbu on April 05, 2021, 03:01:27 pm
Odom leaves UMBC for Utah State. Good for him. AE loses a good coach.
Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: VA_Seawolf on April 05, 2021, 12:34:45 pm
Airturn, Laettner shot aside, if you haven’t watched that entire game, I suggest you do so.  Absolutely amazing game. Suggs is an absolute stud, and after his “shot” I seriously wouldn’t be surprised if he goes #1 in the draft.  And the kid is only a Freshman.

Oh, I've watched it numerous times. I think what people forget, or at least omit, is the Sean Woods running one-hander moments before Laettner's shot. Just a great game all around. Super high scoring, which is unusual for that late in the tournament... As for Suggs, he chose Gonzaga over other P5 teams in both basketball and football (Ohio State and Nebraska offered for FB, damn good QB). Mark Few hasn't had many 1 and done at Gonzaga, and I surely hope that doesn't change. But Suggs was the right fit for this team, the missing piece to the puzzle.

I'll be pulling for the Zags tonight and if they can't get it done tonight then they're likely never going to do so. Baylor is legit though. Will be an amazing game.
Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: guest410 on April 04, 2021, 10:41:41 pm
Airturn, Laettner shot aside, if you haven’t watched that entire game, I suggest you do so.  Absolutely amazing game. Suggs is an absolute stud, and after his “shot” I seriously wouldn’t be surprised if he goes #1 in the draft.  And the kid is only a Freshman.

Oh, I've watched it numerous times. I think what people forget, or at least omit, is the Sean Woods running one-hander moments before Laettner's shot. Just a great game all around. Super high scoring, which is unusual for that late in the tournament... As for Suggs, he chose Gonzaga over other P5 teams in both basketball and football (Ohio State and Nebraska offered for FB, damn good QB). Mark Few hasn't had many 1 and done at Gonzaga, and I surely hope that doesn't change. But Suggs was the right fit for this team, the missing piece to the puzzle.
Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: OldSeawolf on April 04, 2021, 09:32:10 pm
Airturn, Laettner shot aside, if you haven’t watched that entire game, I suggest you do so.  Absolutely amazing game. Suggs is an absolute stud, and after his “shot” I seriously wouldn’t be surprised if he goes #1 in the draft.  And the kid is only a Freshman.
Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: guest410 on April 04, 2021, 09:06:14 pm
That UCLA/Gonzaga game was prob the 2nd best college hoops game, I can remember ever seeing in all my years. What a phenomenal game, end-to-end.  What was the best game, you ask?  The Kentucky/Duke game (Laettner shot) was my all-time best.

Saw the Suggs play live; holy ****, it was insane. Unbelievable game. Neither team let up, fought hard, dug deep, and gave it their all for both halves and OT. UCLA has every right to be upset but should hold their head high because damn, they outplayed the seeding and played so well... Grew up a UNC fan, and over the years, have studied Duke and Chrisitan Laettner. I've watched that shot probably 100-200 times in my life, and it's one of the first games that come to mind when someone says, "if you could go to any sports moments in history."
Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: OldSeawolf on April 04, 2021, 08:55:14 pm
That UCLA/Gonzaga game was prob the 2nd best college hoops game I can remember ever seeing in all my years. What a phenomenal game, end-to-end.  What was the best game you ask?  The Kentucky/Duke game (Laettner shot) was my all-time best.
Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: ibosbu on April 01, 2021, 01:02:41 pm
https://twitter.com/CBSSportsRadio/status/1377657409410334721?s=20
Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: ibosbu on April 01, 2021, 12:53:26 pm
Roy Williams has retired! We will see lot of new coaches in some of the well known bball programs when new season starts...Texas, UNC, Indiana, Marquette.
Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: pgajohnny97 on March 26, 2021, 09:29:55 am
Well, looks like the only history SBMBB will be making is negative history..........
Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: ibosbu on March 25, 2021, 05:19:55 pm
CofC just hired one of the best mid/low-major coach.. Kelsey from Winthrop.
looking at these two best coaching job rankings of CAA and AE respectively (even if we take with a grain of salt).. makes me wonder what could have been. CofC HC position is the most attractive in CAA. And even two years ago Stony Brook was considered to be the best coaching job in AE.. but we decided to go with Ford :'(

(https://s23455.pcdn.co/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/Conference-Chain-CAA-1.jpg)


(https://s23455.pcdn.co/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Conference-Chain-America-East.jpg)
Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: Chairman of the Board on March 25, 2021, 03:35:23 pm
for comparison, gueye is also 6'9" but is 210lbs.

rodriguez is 8 inches shorter and 30lbs heavier.
Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: Hammertime on March 25, 2021, 03:23:32 pm
my opinion but it's time to focus on cultivating the next generation of players- kids who want to come and stay.

and by that, i mean we better get some bigs on the radar, pronto

ask and receive.

https://www.verbalcommits.com/players/maurice-vassell

160lb at 6'9" gives me a bit of pause....

Pencil body. Glad GF is at least sending out offers to HS kids and just, not all Juco transfers.
Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: Chairman of the Board on March 25, 2021, 03:15:11 pm
my opinion but it's time to focus on cultivating the next generation of players- kids who want to come and stay.

and by that, i mean we better get some bigs on the radar, pronto

ask and receive.

https://www.verbalcommits.com/players/maurice-vassell

160lb at 6'9" gives me a bit of pause....
Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: guest410 on March 25, 2021, 01:51:30 pm
He’s again testing the draft waters, and entering the portal. Tested last year BEFORE entering the portal, feedback wasn’t super positive from what I was told. Why he’s leaving Miami? Could be due to people thinking the program is on the decline. Won’t really know for sure unless he says something publicly. Someone mentioned Europe instead of a fifth year, which is definitely what he should do. He’ll make it to the NBA. Cash in now and head to Europe.
Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: ibosbu on March 25, 2021, 01:45:22 pm
Jim Larrañaga on Elijah Olaniyi: "He told me he wants to go pro, but he is entering the transfer portal as a backup."

^from twitter.. and whatever that means ???
Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: ibosbu on March 25, 2021, 01:34:41 pm
So long Miami, hello...... Unknown. Elijah Olaniyi is back in the transfer portal. https://247sports.com/college/miami/Article/Elijah-Olaniyi-transfer-portal-Miami-Hurricanes-basketball-163050023/

I don't understand the what can be the reason for him leaving Miami.. he started 18 games.. played 3rd most minutes. Gets to play against tough ACC opponents to prove himself. Playing for a good coach. I totally get leaving Stony Brook for Miami. Unless he will be starting for a blue blood program, why leave Miami?
Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: Hammertime on March 25, 2021, 12:53:39 pm
Unlikely he returns but not impossible. Maybe geno can make a compelling case that he can come back win a title. There is so much more parity in cbb and the america east get to the tourney make a name for yourself that way.

Why would Elijah want to play for GF. You never want to go backward, only forward.
Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: guest419 on March 25, 2021, 12:17:41 pm
my opinion but it's time to focus on cultivating the next generation of players- kids who want to come and stay.

and by that, i mean we better get some bigs on the radar, pronto

I agree with you but its not going to happen while GF is here.  Word is out on that guy.
Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: Knicksbu99 on March 25, 2021, 12:15:10 pm
Unlikely he returns but not impossible. Maybe geno can make a compelling case that he can come back win a title. There is so much more parity in cbb and the america east get to the tourney make a name for yourself that way.
Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: Chairman of the Board on March 25, 2021, 12:00:08 pm
my opinion but it's time to focus on cultivating the next generation of players- kids who want to come and stay.

and by that, i mean we better get some bigs on the radar, pronto
Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: guest410 on March 25, 2021, 11:52:18 am
Come back to SBU? 😂, he’s trying to move up the DI scale and go more high profile, not drop off the face of the earth. Ohio, Rutgers, are some logical destinations, maybe Georgia. Just my opinion, although Ohio is less high profile, but a better chance to start and dominate. 
Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: OldSeawolf on March 25, 2021, 10:50:45 am
Probably a 0% chance he'd come back to us.  Although he played better the 2nd half of the year at Miami, he's not an elite D1 player.  Does he seriously think that an upgrade in program will help a his original NBA ambition?   I think not.  Elijah should face reality and turn pro and play somewhere in Europe now; he's certainly good enough for that.  He has a finite # of years to cash in, and now is the time.  Why waste another year being a bench player on a more prestigious program?
Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: guest410 on March 25, 2021, 09:56:21 am
So long Miami, hello...... Unknown. Elijah Olaniyi is back in the transfer portal. https://247sports.com/college/miami/Article/Elijah-Olaniyi-transfer-portal-Miami-Hurricanes-basketball-163050023/
Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: guest419 on March 23, 2021, 12:42:50 pm
GF advanced in the NIT two years in a row at Kent State. SH must have relied on that history when signing him.

And ignored the rest of his history.
Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: pgajohnny97 on March 23, 2021, 11:12:54 am
Had to be a reason why JB took just about everyone else with him and left GF behind?????????
Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: ry1nik on March 23, 2021, 09:11:58 am
GF advanced in the NIT two years in a row at Kent State. SH must have relied on that history when signing him.
Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: Hammertime on March 23, 2021, 05:55:04 am
Rumor has it that was he made all of the players speak to SH so that he would get the job.  IDO but the steady mass exodus of players may prove this may be very true.  Shame on SH for letting that happen and signing a long term contract.

I believe it. Geno has long been a dirty man. The red flag was there when he tried to weasel his way out of paying the $1.2 million buyout he owed Kent State when he left for Bradley. He has a history of just being a scumbag.

https://www.ohioattorneygeneral.gov/Media/News-Releases/July-2013/Attorney-General-DeWine-and-Kent-State-University

And look at GF record at Bradly University. I posted this a while back about GF. He is a horrible coach.

 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geno_Ford

WOW. This guy is a creep.
Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: Accelerator on March 22, 2021, 11:28:43 pm
Rumor has it that was he made all of the players speak to SH so that he would get the job.  IDO but the steady mass exodus of players may prove this may be very true.  Shame on SH for letting that happen and signing a long term contract.

I believe it. Geno has long been a dirty man. The red flag was there when he tried to weasel his way out of paying the $1.2 million buyout he owed Kent State when he left for Bradley. He has a history of just being a scumbag.

https://www.ohioattorneygeneral.gov/Media/News-Releases/July-2013/Attorney-General-DeWine-and-Kent-State-University
Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: Hammertime on March 22, 2021, 08:22:22 pm
It would inappropriate for her to talk sports since the university (along with the nation and world) have been dealing with a generational crisis like Covid. Personally I would question her judgment if she did.

What are you talking about?? So, because of the plandemic, the President of SBU would be wrong to discuss the health of SB athletics, and her vision and aspirations going foward??? I say it would be reckless NOT to talk about the Helath of your University to the people who support it.
Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: guest419 on March 22, 2021, 07:31:22 pm
What is there to look forward to next year? Based on spring the football team is in big trouble. Basketball under GF is a disaster. Womens lacrose will do well and a couple other sports but they dont bring in money. I dont see how anyone can get excited about the close future with athletics. SH had great ideas but he did not do what he said he would do in five years and he is now looking at his eigth year. He and RE will be able to use covid as there excuse. It was nice to see the womens' basketball team in the NCAA but theres no money there of any significants. Football and mens' basketball are in tough shape.
Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: ry1nik on March 22, 2021, 07:21:35 pm
It would inappropriate for her to talk sports since the university (along with the nation and world) have been dealing with a generational crisis like Covid. Personally I would question her judgment if she did.
Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: Hammertime on March 22, 2021, 06:02:42 pm
true.  i definitely get the feeling she isnt the sports type.  but will reserve judgment until we get out of this (will we get out of this?).

She's been SBU President for a few months now and no talk about SB athletic. What does that tell you about her priority for this University.

We all know Academics is and should always be the school's #1 priority, but a good president should always talk about every department in a positive manner. Even if it is all smoke and mirrors and Bill$hit. So far, I haven't heard anything about her direction and asperation with SB athletics.
Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: Knicksbu99 on March 22, 2021, 05:38:26 pm
There a few players who went to Long Island Lutheran.
Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: pgajohnny97 on March 22, 2021, 04:39:07 pm
I am the new guy here.  I too was a season ticket holder for a very long time until GF took the reins of this team, that's when I decided that it was time to go. I simply couldn't get behind this guy, his coaching style, the way he treats people and he could never be an ambassador to SB.  I was shocked and disappointed that he was offered the HC post. Rumor has it that was he made all of the players speak to SH so that he would get the job.  IDO but the steady mass exodus of players may prove this may be very true.  Shame on SH for letting that happen and signing a long term contract. I really think donors would line up and contribute to his buyout at this point. There are huge problems in SB Athletics and yes it does have to do in part with leadership and financial support. State $ will not be coming our way so it needs to be donor secured. I agree that RE is a very unusual/unapproachable guy who never went out of his way to socialize with any of the season ticket holders let alone investigate and secure new donor prospects.  IMO he should be the first to go.  I have very little faith in SH because he should be proactive in holding RE accountable and doing what's best for Athletics.  With regard to SB being a commuter school, there may be some truth to this and maybe just maybe a good idea would be to look into a more local recruit rather than all JUCO players we seem to be after.  I remember there was a local PJ kid who was a walk on (can't remember his name). Boals put him in and he nailed a 3 pointer and the freakin crowd went wild, the place was electric.  It was so relatable and people seem to want that connection/relationship. The community has no connection to this team.  Community service was absent (no counting when COVID hit).  Those players were never out and about mingling with the community.  I am sorry but you have to be able to connect with the community if you expect them to come to games and support the program. Right now there is nothing and I do not see anything coming anytime soon with the current leadership and HC.  We really need to clean the house, that is just my opinion...........
Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: Chairman of the Board on March 22, 2021, 02:41:58 pm
true.  i definitely get the feeling she isnt the sports type.  but will reserve judgment until we get out of this (will we get out of this?).
Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: OldSeawolf on March 22, 2021, 02:29:52 pm
there's no right/wrong on this topic.  just opinions.  thank you for yours!  8)

great discussion by the way.  i just worry that the solution takes years and maybe even decades and we are losing time.

As my kids can attest to, one of my favorite sayings is, “it always starts at the top”.  Given that premise, we’ve had a changing of the guard, and we’ll see what McInnis brings to the table.  Unfortunately, with Covid, she is limited in what she can currently do.  Give it another year, and we can make an appropriate evaluation.
Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: Chairman of the Board on March 22, 2021, 01:57:00 pm
there's no right/wrong on this topic.  just opinions.  thank you for yours!  8)

great discussion by the way.  i just worry that the solution takes years and maybe even decades and we are losing time. 
Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: ibosbu on March 22, 2021, 01:41:12 pm
iBO i happen to agree regarding intl students, and at the risk of putting words in another's mouth, i think he meant children of immigrants, not necessarily just foreigners.  thoughts?

I will generalize and I know I may be wrong. Just my observation:

In my time at stony brook (2001-06), I noticed that it didn’t matter whether children of late 21st century immigrants (ie east and south Asian Americans students), or descendants of white setters, or descendants of African slaves... they all loved pro sports..Giants/Jets, Yankees/Mets, even the Knicks! And apathy towards college sports were same across all not just Asian students.

Now I 100% agree that parents of the Asian Americans or others recent first generation immigrants are not into collegiate sports but they are not into pro sports either, unlike their children.

If you look at other P5 schools with high Asian American student %, these students are really into the school spirit and follow their fb and bb program. In DMV, Asian students from Virginia and VA Tech root for their programs passionately even after graduation. Something is lacking at Stony Brook. Perhaps it’s the high commuters %, perhaps we just don’t have a good team that makes the ESPN regularly to feel proud of... Don’t know what it is.
Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: OldSeawolf on March 22, 2021, 01:27:44 pm
Believe me, I was rooting for him.  Just a devastating and inexcusable loss.  Taking air out of ball too early killed all momentum, and these iso’s as shot clock was running out, just pathetic coaching calls. Major flashbacks for me of our first four final games with sbu.

We saw both the good and bad side of Pikiell. Tremendous in building a program, sustaining good winning percentage, very likable, good recruiter etc etc. In game coaching decisions in high stake pressure games are still head scratching. Overall I wish he was still here.

IBO, all your positive comments on Pikiell are spot on.  I’ll add one additional one — excellent ambassador for the University.  Unfortunately, in-game management is not one of his strong suits.  Overall, I’m with you; I’d prefer if he was still here too.
Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: Chairman of the Board on March 22, 2021, 12:58:49 pm
iBO i happen to agree regarding intl students, and at the risk of putting words in another's mouth, i think he meant children of immigrants, not necessarily just foreigners.  thoughts?
Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: ibosbu on March 22, 2021, 12:55:58 pm
Believe me, I was rooting for him.  Just a devastating and inexcusable loss.  Taking air out of ball too early killed all momentum, and these iso’s as shot clock was running out, just pathetic coaching calls. Major flashbacks for me of our first four final games with sbu.

We saw both the good and bad side of Pikiell. Tremendous in building a program, sustaining good winning percentage, very likable, good recruiter etc etc. In game coaching decisions in high stake pressure games are still head scratching. Overall I wish he was still here.
Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: ibosbu on March 22, 2021, 12:48:47 pm
International students is not really the problem. It’s more about apathy towards college athletics in general in northeastern region.

International students percentage:
Stony Brook 17%
Syracuse 19%
Michigan st 12.4%
Michigan 15%
Ohio st 11%
Duke 21.6%
UConn 14.1%

Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: Hammertime on March 22, 2021, 11:05:22 am
At this rate, Stony Brook should be desperate enough to reach out to him and his billions of dollars. If Heilbron actually cut him off because of his Epstein ties, that's another disappointment from him. Just looking to keep his hands clean while football and basketball keep spiraling downwards. You simply do not do anything to jeopardize your richest donor - a basic rule - and Heilbron can't even follow that.

I think for once Heilbron made the right decision. SBU does not, and should not, want to be associated with Jeffrey Epstein, even if it costs them dearly with athletics. Heilbron needs to find the money literally anywhere else. He's a smooth talker with grand ideas, wonder why he's striking out left and right.

Because it really isn't that easy to find somebody who wants to give millions of Dollars back to their Alumni. SBU has a very high foreign population. Do they really care about SBU sports? Nope. Heilbron is not stupid. I've spoken to him many times over the years about this subject,  and his hand are basically tied up trying to get money from the Government. Private donors are not so giving lately neither.
Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: Chairman of the Board on March 22, 2021, 10:15:10 am
it's all the same issue.  student disaffection leads to alumni apathy.

http://sbufan.createaforum.com/around-stony-brook/making-sb-better-idea-thread/
Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: guest410 on March 22, 2021, 10:02:18 am
At this rate, Stony Brook should be desperate enough to reach out to him and his billions of dollars. If Heilbron actually cut him off because of his Epstein ties, that's another disappointment from him. Just looking to keep his hands clean while football and basketball keep spiraling downwards. You simply do not do anything to jeopardize your richest donor - a basic rule - and Heilbron can't even follow that.

I think for once Heilbron made the right decision. SBU does not, and should not, want to be associated with Jeffrey Epstein, even if it costs them dearly with athletics. Heilbron needs to find the money literally anywhere else. He's a smooth talker with grand ideas, wonder why he's striking out left and right.
Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: Accelerator on March 21, 2021, 11:01:04 pm
At this rate, Stony Brook should be desperate enough to reach out to him and his billions of dollars. If Heilbron actually cut him off because of his Epstein ties, that's another disappointment from him. Just looking to keep his hands clean while football and basketball keep spiraling downwards. You simply do not do anything to jeopardize your richest donor - a basic rule - and Heilbron can't even follow that.
Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: guest410 on March 21, 2021, 10:37:02 pm
You're telling me that Stony Brook can't find $720,000 to get rid of a dead-end coach no one wants around? $720,000 is not a lot of money!

That's exactly what I'm saying. Donors have been pulling away over the past few years given the state of the two biggest teams, and the single biggest donor is directly linked to Jefferey Epstein and even SBU is not desperate enough to take any more of his money. There's a reason why the new indoor practice facility was supposed to be named after him and now has no name at all. America East teams have announced big donations over the past couple of years, Maine redoing almost every athletic thing on campus, Bing with their new baseball/softball stadiums, Vermont with the new arena's, etc. SBU doesn't have that luck. No big-time donors to help save the school from the big bad, terrible coach.
Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: Accelerator on March 21, 2021, 10:14:10 pm
You're telling me that Stony Brook can't find $720,000 to get rid of a dead-end coach no one wants around? $720,000 is not a lot of money!
Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: OldSeawolf on March 21, 2021, 09:37:31 pm
Believe me, I was rooting for him.  Just a devastating and inexcusable loss.  Taking air out of ball too early killed all momentum, and these iso’s as shot clock was running out, just pathetic coaching calls. Major flashbacks for me of our first four final games with sbu.
Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: guest410 on March 21, 2021, 09:30:32 pm
Another major Pikiell choke. Up 10 late, he took the air out of the bill way too early.  Minus the Hooley shot, reminded me so much of the Albany final where we blew the lead late. Still trouble winning the big one.  Houston gave them every chance to win too.

Choke or not, he took his team to the tournament, won a game and came close to a Sweet 16. Pkiell deserves praise for that.
Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: OldSeawolf on March 21, 2021, 09:26:05 pm
Another major Pikiell choke. Up 10 late, he took the air out of the bill way too early.  Minus the Hooley shot, reminded me so much of the Albany final where we blew the lead late. Still trouble winning the big one.  Houston gave them every chance to win too.
Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: Chairman of the Board on March 21, 2021, 09:24:46 pm
blew a 10 point lead and lost 63-60.
Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: Chairman of the Board on March 21, 2021, 08:46:53 pm
pikiell is up 45-38 on #2 houston.
Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: guest410 on March 21, 2021, 08:21:07 pm
If geno struggles next year with the same group we had this year any chance SH fires him?

Nope, not unless somebody comes up with about 1 Million Dollars to buy it GF remaining contract.

Well after next season it'll be roughly $720,000 but you're still right, no chance SBU can afford to eat that money while paying for another coach. Starting March 31, 2022, SBU can enter into extension talks, and have one year to the day to get them done, or to let him know they will not be extending the contract. If SBU truly wanted to keep GF around, they'd bang out an extension on April 1, 2022, if not, he's a lame-duck coach (which he is already).
Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: Hammertime on March 21, 2021, 07:15:31 pm
If geno struggles next year with the same group we had this year any chance SH fires him?

Nope, not unless somebody comes up with about 1 Million Dollars to buy out GF remaining contract.
Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: Knicksbu99 on March 21, 2021, 06:13:51 pm
If geno struggles next year with the same group we had this year any chance SH fires him?
Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: Knicksbu99 on March 21, 2021, 06:11:51 pm
Does boals get this team we had this year to finals and possibly the tourney? I think he does.
Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: guest419 on March 21, 2021, 10:12:39 am
So Pikiell, and Boals both win their first round games. Glad to see we can be a launching pad for coaching careers when we don't f**k up and give bad coaches like Ford bloated contracts.

GF got a 5 year deal out of the gate. SH is the architect of failure.
Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: VA_Seawolf on March 21, 2021, 12:38:22 am
So Pikiell, and Boals both win their first round games. Glad to see we can be a launching pad for coaching careers when we don't f**k up and give bad coaches like Ford bloated contracts.
Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: guest419 on March 20, 2021, 09:49:45 pm
Boals had to leave. Money and his almamater. SH hiring GF was a great con pulled off by GF. SH and his staff all need to go. They dont seem to have a clue whats going on in there own deptartment.
Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: Moveitfred on March 20, 2021, 09:27:58 pm
Sort of feels like SBU just fell a little bit deeper down the hole after Boals' big upset win over the (2019) defending champs.

Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: Chairman of the Board on March 20, 2021, 04:57:05 pm
yep.

the four Ps
Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: Checkmate on March 20, 2021, 03:15:49 pm
One thing is clear watching these tournament games – and it's been awesome; really enjoying it. Anyway, that thing is our scheme on offense is just terrible. There are only two teams that I've seen that looked clueless offensively. The first was Norfolk State in the second half in a game they won. The other was San Diego State against the Syracuse zone – which usually happens, but it looked like they didn't even know it was coming.

The rest though, I've seen the ball moving, finding the open man, cuts, picks, rolls, penetration, etc. It's just sad. Watching SBU was a chore this winter. But the tournament's been great.

Really happy for Pikiell, and it was cool hearing Akwasi's name on the telecast too. And Boals later today. With these last two years, we have lost all the momentum from their tenures, and as long as Becker's at UVM, Odom's a UMBC, even Gallagher at Hartford making it work each year, I feel like we're just so far behind now.
Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: guest419 on March 20, 2021, 09:34:44 am
After a dreadful first half, App St charges back to a commanding second half lead, then snatches defeat from the jaws of victory to go down in a play-in game.

Mike Almonacy, channeling his inner SBU, goes...brace yourselves...1-14 from the floor, 1-13 from three. Gulp.

Chairman: it could be worse.

 ::)

Im happy for Mike Almoncy. He made his own way and had a great conference championship game.
Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: ibosbu on March 19, 2021, 11:47:10 pm
Pikiell bravo 👏
Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: Chairman of the Board on March 19, 2021, 10:00:03 am
After a dreadful first half, App St charges back to a commanding second half lead, then snatches defeat from the jaws of victory to go down in a play-in game.

Mike Almonacy, channeling his inner SBU, goes...brace yourselves...1-14 from the floor, 1-13 from three. Gulp.

Chairman: it could be worse.

 ::)
Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: OldSeawolf on March 19, 2021, 08:07:11 am
His final 3 attempt to win the game was admittedly rushed and hit the backboard like a dead chicken thrown against a barn. (Yeah, I've thrown a dead chicken against a barn. I know).

Play-by-play guy saw fit to call it "a brick."

Ouch. Tough night.

I watched the last 10 minutes.  Rallied back from 18 down to take a 6 (I think) point lead, just to blow it.  Almonacy was a brick-layer for sure, but the team as a whole shot under 26% for the game, and still had a chance to win on the last possession!   Not sure he has eligibility left, but wonder if he'll come back for another season.
Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: Moveitfred on March 19, 2021, 07:54:01 am
His final 3 attempt to win the game was admittedly rushed and hit the backboard like a dead chicken thrown against a barn. (Yeah, I've thrown a dead chicken against a barn. I know).

Play-by-play guy saw fit to call it "a brick."

Ouch. Tough night.
Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: Checkmate on March 19, 2021, 07:49:35 am
Rough night for Almonacy: 1 for 14, including 1 for 13 from three. App State loses by one. He had some ugly ones late, including an all-backboard floater (his only two) and a potential game winning three that sailed over the rim. Had to be nervous/pressing.


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Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: Moveitfred on March 19, 2021, 07:43:26 am
After a dreadful first half, App St charges back to a commanding second half lead, then snatches defeat from the jaws of victory to go down in a play-in game.

Mike Almonacy, channeling his inner SBU, goes...brace yourselves...1-14 from the floor, 1-13 from three. Gulp.

Chairman: it could be worse.
Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: guest419 on March 18, 2021, 03:06:18 pm
thanks- speaking of ualbaNy, i posted this in the lacrosse thread but its relevant here too: http://fanlax.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=290&t=2674

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UAlbany lacrosse coach wants to get rid of NCAA transfer portal

“You get rid of the portal and you go back to the old way of doing it,” Marr said on a Zoom call Wednesday. “Hold kids accountable for why they’re transferring. Am I transferring for legitimate reasons? If a kid comes to me and says, 'Coach, I’m not fitting in with the team' or 'Academically I want to do something different,' then I would release him. But if a kid comes and like, well, he’s disgruntled because he thinks he should be playing or that type of stuff, or reasons that he sees different than you, then you have the ability to hold it over him.”

“For this to be his third school, I don’t know,” Marr said. “To me, it’s not TD’s fault that he has this opportunity. I blame the people who make those decisions. I just think it’s wrong. … To see the amount of transferring that’s going on, and again, the fact that Denver is on a trimester (academic calendar) and they can pull a kid in during the season, that to me, it’s really over the top. I don’t think that should be able to be legal. Once the season starts, I don’t think you should be able to shuffle people in and out of your lineup.”

Using basketball as an example — there are already more than 560 names on the VerbalCommits Division I transfer list for 2021 — Marr said the portal has given college sports more of a professional feel and turned athletes into free agents.

“You’re giving kids an easy way out as opposed to working through a problem or working through adversity or learning how to deal with their teammates or learning how to deal with a coaching staff,” Marr continued. “They just get to leave. So they run away from their problems. You’re just giving kids an opportunity to run away from their problems. That’s just my opinion.”

The portal isn't turning kids into free agents. Its letting them leave a program thats not a good fit for them, and make the most of their brief college career.  Free agents get paid. If the coach is the problem, as it is at SB in my opinion then they should be allowed to run from that problem.

Sort of disagree.  This is like free agency, and is the NCAA's concession to college athletes in lieu of allowing them to get paid for playing, endorsements, etc.  Certainly hurts mid-majors a lot more than P5's.

No doubt it hurts midmajors bigtime.  guys like GF's days are numbered because they cant keep their kids. horrible coachingstyle.
Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: OldSeawolf on March 18, 2021, 08:58:27 am
thanks- speaking of ualbaNy, i posted this in the lacrosse thread but its relevant here too: http://fanlax.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=290&t=2674

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UAlbany lacrosse coach wants to get rid of NCAA transfer portal

“You get rid of the portal and you go back to the old way of doing it,” Marr said on a Zoom call Wednesday. “Hold kids accountable for why they’re transferring. Am I transferring for legitimate reasons? If a kid comes to me and says, 'Coach, I’m not fitting in with the team' or 'Academically I want to do something different,' then I would release him. But if a kid comes and like, well, he’s disgruntled because he thinks he should be playing or that type of stuff, or reasons that he sees different than you, then you have the ability to hold it over him.”

“For this to be his third school, I don’t know,” Marr said. “To me, it’s not TD’s fault that he has this opportunity. I blame the people who make those decisions. I just think it’s wrong. … To see the amount of transferring that’s going on, and again, the fact that Denver is on a trimester (academic calendar) and they can pull a kid in during the season, that to me, it’s really over the top. I don’t think that should be able to be legal. Once the season starts, I don’t think you should be able to shuffle people in and out of your lineup.”

Using basketball as an example — there are already more than 560 names on the VerbalCommits Division I transfer list for 2021 — Marr said the portal has given college sports more of a professional feel and turned athletes into free agents.

“You’re giving kids an easy way out as opposed to working through a problem or working through adversity or learning how to deal with their teammates or learning how to deal with a coaching staff,” Marr continued. “They just get to leave. So they run away from their problems. You’re just giving kids an opportunity to run away from their problems. That’s just my opinion.”

The portal isn't turning kids into free agents. Its letting them leave a program thats not a good fit for them, and make the most of their brief college career.  Free agents get paid. If the coach is the problem, as it is at SB in my opinion then they should be allowed to run from that problem.

Sort of disagree.  This is like free agency, and is the NCAA's concession to college athletes in lieu of allowing them to get paid for playing, endorsements, etc.  Certainly hurts mid-majors a lot more than P5's.
Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: Chairman of the Board on March 18, 2021, 07:58:54 am
agreed with hammer.  the answer is likely somewhere in the middle.
Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: Hammertime on March 18, 2021, 06:12:20 am
thanks- speaking of ualbaNy, i posted this in the lacrosse thread but its relevant here too: http://fanlax.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=290&t=2674

Quote
UAlbany lacrosse coach wants to get rid of NCAA transfer portal

“You get rid of the portal and you go back to the old way of doing it,” Marr said on a Zoom call Wednesday. “Hold kids accountable for why they’re transferring. Am I transferring for legitimate reasons? If a kid comes to me and says, 'Coach, I’m not fitting in with the team' or 'Academically I want to do something different,' then I would release him. But if a kid comes and like, well, he’s disgruntled because he thinks he should be playing or that type of stuff, or reasons that he sees different than you, then you have the ability to hold it over him.”

“For this to be his third school, I don’t know,” Marr said. “To me, it’s not TD’s fault that he has this opportunity. I blame the people who make those decisions. I just think it’s wrong. … To see the amount of transferring that’s going on, and again, the fact that Denver is on a trimester (academic calendar) and they can pull a kid in during the season, that to me, it’s really over the top. I don’t think that should be able to be legal. Once the season starts, I don’t think you should be able to shuffle people in and out of your lineup.”

Using basketball as an example — there are already more than 560 names on the VerbalCommits Division I transfer list for 2021 — Marr said the portal has given college sports more of a professional feel and turned athletes into free agents.

“You’re giving kids an easy way out as opposed to working through a problem or working through adversity or learning how to deal with their teammates or learning how to deal with a coaching staff,” Marr continued. “They just get to leave. So they run away from their problems. You’re just giving kids an opportunity to run away from their problems. That’s just my opinion.”

The portal isn't turning kids into free agents. Its letting them leave a program thats not a good fit for them, and make the most of their brief college career.  Free agents get paid. If the coach is the problem, as it is at SB in my opinion then they should be allowed to run from that problem.

I am torn on this subject. One side of me agrees that a student/athlete should be free to move about the college spectrum at will. But the other side of me says that once he is committed to a college, he/she should have to sit out 1 year before playing. Like the old days.

I could see this being very frustrating for a college coach to try and balance his roster with kids that are constantly coming and going. That is just plain wrong. You need to be responsible with your choices in life and deal with adversity. Like the UA coach alluded to. He is correct. These kids today think they could do whatever they want in life when in the real world, we all know that is not how it works. I also agree with you. If a college coach sucks and a rising star athlete is not getting the proper coaching in the sport he/she is playing in, and that coach is possibly holding that athlete back from making it into the pros, then yes. That athlete should be allowed to leave and go into the transfer proto call list. That happened when Stacey Bidell was at SB. Bidell had an opportunity to play in the NFL, but was overlooked by many teams because he had no film on him catching the ball out of the backfield. Bidell told me that personally when his tryout days in the NFL came to an end. He regretted transferring to SBU because of coach P and SB lack of grooming him to be a pro-ready athlete and missed opportunities in the NFL.. I believe what he told me is true.

So yeah. This is something the NCAA needs to fix and fix in a hurry. I dont recall having major issues in the past when athletes would transfer but had to sit out a season.
Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: guest410 on March 17, 2021, 08:41:47 pm
Albany hired their new coach yesterday or the day before.

Albany has a new coach.

https://twitter.com/JonRothstein/status/1371603332666687488

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dwayne_Killings

Great hire for Albany. Killings is young, only 39, but has been a coach since 2003!

2003–2006   Charlotte Hornets (assistant)
2006–2009   Temple (asst. dir. of basketball op.)
2009–2010   NBA D-League (admin)
2010–2011   Boston University (assistant)
2011–2016   Temple (assistant)
2016–2018   Connecticut (assistant)
2018–2021   Marquette (asst./associate HC)
2021–present   Albany
Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: Chairman of the Board on March 17, 2021, 08:39:45 pm
yeah that's the discussion.  let's see how recruits react to the statement at our arch rival.
Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: guest419 on March 17, 2021, 08:17:22 pm
thanks- speaking of ualbaNy, i posted this in the lacrosse thread but its relevant here too: http://fanlax.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=290&t=2674

Quote
UAlbany lacrosse coach wants to get rid of NCAA transfer portal

“You get rid of the portal and you go back to the old way of doing it,” Marr said on a Zoom call Wednesday. “Hold kids accountable for why they’re transferring. Am I transferring for legitimate reasons? If a kid comes to me and says, 'Coach, I’m not fitting in with the team' or 'Academically I want to do something different,' then I would release him. But if a kid comes and like, well, he’s disgruntled because he thinks he should be playing or that type of stuff, or reasons that he sees different than you, then you have the ability to hold it over him.”

“For this to be his third school, I don’t know,” Marr said. “To me, it’s not TD’s fault that he has this opportunity. I blame the people who make those decisions. I just think it’s wrong. … To see the amount of transferring that’s going on, and again, the fact that Denver is on a trimester (academic calendar) and they can pull a kid in during the season, that to me, it’s really over the top. I don’t think that should be able to be legal. Once the season starts, I don’t think you should be able to shuffle people in and out of your lineup.”

Using basketball as an example — there are already more than 560 names on the VerbalCommits Division I transfer list for 2021 — Marr said the portal has given college sports more of a professional feel and turned athletes into free agents.

“You’re giving kids an easy way out as opposed to working through a problem or working through adversity or learning how to deal with their teammates or learning how to deal with a coaching staff,” Marr continued. “They just get to leave. So they run away from their problems. You’re just giving kids an opportunity to run away from their problems. That’s just my opinion.”

The portal isn't turning kids into free agents. Its letting them leave a program thats not a good fit for them, and make the most of their brief college career.  Free agents get paid. If the coach is the problem, as it is at SB in my opinion then they should be allowed to run from that problem.
Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: Chairman of the Board on March 17, 2021, 07:56:29 pm
thanks- speaking of ualbaNy, i posted this in the lacrosse thread but its relevant here too: http://fanlax.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=290&t=2674

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UAlbany lacrosse coach wants to get rid of NCAA transfer portal

“You get rid of the portal and you go back to the old way of doing it,” Marr said on a Zoom call Wednesday. “Hold kids accountable for why they’re transferring. Am I transferring for legitimate reasons? If a kid comes to me and says, 'Coach, I’m not fitting in with the team' or 'Academically I want to do something different,' then I would release him. But if a kid comes and like, well, he’s disgruntled because he thinks he should be playing or that type of stuff, or reasons that he sees different than you, then you have the ability to hold it over him.”

“For this to be his third school, I don’t know,” Marr said. “To me, it’s not TD’s fault that he has this opportunity. I blame the people who make those decisions. I just think it’s wrong. … To see the amount of transferring that’s going on, and again, the fact that Denver is on a trimester (academic calendar) and they can pull a kid in during the season, that to me, it’s really over the top. I don’t think that should be able to be legal. Once the season starts, I don’t think you should be able to shuffle people in and out of your lineup.”

Using basketball as an example — there are already more than 560 names on the VerbalCommits Division I transfer list for 2021 — Marr said the portal has given college sports more of a professional feel and turned athletes into free agents.

“You’re giving kids an easy way out as opposed to working through a problem or working through adversity or learning how to deal with their teammates or learning how to deal with a coaching staff,” Marr continued. “They just get to leave. So they run away from their problems. You’re just giving kids an opportunity to run away from their problems. That’s just my opinion.”
Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: ibosbu on March 17, 2021, 07:25:48 pm
Albany hired their new coach yesterday or the day before.

Albany has a new coach.

https://twitter.com/JonRothstein/status/1371603332666687488

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dwayne_Killings
Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: guest410 on March 16, 2021, 06:42:39 pm
Other than Mo Alex and Jordan I really couldnt tell you who was on the team this year. I didnt watch much. The athletic dept turned me off a year ago. SH may smile if he walks past you. RE has never said hello and a horrible product on the court. We gave up our season tickets. I live in Nassau and i love college hoops. i may be a Hofstra season ticket holder when things open up again. The few games over the years i've gone to there they have at least pretended to be happy to see you. And there bldg looks better than SBUs which is filthy, downstairs. Where you get the food at SB, on the lower level it looks like the bldg is 100 yrs old. Stuff stored there. Peeled paint. There is no pride in there apearance.

I covered the Long Island Nets G-League finals game at SBU a few years back. They didn't mind the locker room (Nets used the Home one, idk if there's a difference at IFCU), but said everything else about the place was either terrible or subpar. Someone in the organization was complaining about the "suites" and how it was essentially one open suite with a "door" to it but that wouldn't stop anyone from walking right in, which did happen. Trajan Langdon and Tiago Splitter were sitting a in a suite, eating and drinking while watching the game, and a fan who had suite access, but not that suite, just walked right in between them and started talking. Both were visibly upset and had the person removed.
Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: guest419 on March 16, 2021, 06:33:40 pm
Other than Mo Alex and Jordan I really couldnt tell you who was on the team this year. I didnt watch much. The athletic dept turned me off a year ago. SH may smile if he walks past you. RE has never said hello and a horrible product on the court. We gave up our season tickets. I live in Nassau and i love college hoops. i may be a Hofstra season ticket holder when things open up again. The few games over the years i've gone to there they have at least pretended to be happy to see you. And there bldg looks better than SBUs which is filthy, downstairs. Where you get the food at SB, on the lower level it looks like the bldg is 100 yrs old. Stuff stored there. Peeled paint. There is no pride in there apearance.
Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: guest419 on March 16, 2021, 06:25:50 pm
Albany now has 7 players in the portal

That is to be expected when a 20 year veteran coach departs. But when an assistant coach becomes HC coach and the majority of the players depart. There is a big problem problem. When UA finds their new HC, he will most likely be recruiting a new team anyways

Albany hired their new coach yesterday or the day before.
Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: Chairman of the Board on March 16, 2021, 05:00:32 pm
i like him. 

note i also liked otchere's film, a lot.
Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: sbugold on March 16, 2021, 04:22:36 pm
also C peter turay committed to UNO.

meaning we officially have no bigs, other than christie, even on the radar let alone on the roster for next year (does sayles have an extra covid year?).

This guy is immediately eligible and has some NY area ties.  Check him out, and GO GET HIM!!

https://verbalcommits.com/players/chris-efretuei
Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: Chairman of the Board on March 16, 2021, 03:15:29 pm
correct; that's exactly what im asking.  and there really is no answer.

especially given, how much easier it is to transfer these days, AND the fact that players think they'll get better looks in a 5th year elsewhere (see 2019/2020 SB).

add in the early tourney exits and the annual exodus, not looking great.

hoping there are some bigs on the radar that aren't appearing on VC.  we've won exactly ONE game of import during the modern era (pikiell/boals/ford, past 15 years) and it was ALL our star big.  the other 14 seasons is just missing threes.

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Post by: OldSeawolf on March 16, 2021, 02:50:43 pm
also C peter turay committed to UNO.

meaning we officially have no bigs, other than christie, even on the radar let alone on the roster for next year (does sayles have an extra covid year?).

Everyone in NCAA was given an extra year of eligibility, after enduring the Covid season.  Mo, Sayles, Habwe can all in theory return.  Question is will they play beyond their grad years and if so, will they return to SBU or transfer?
Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: Hammertime on March 16, 2021, 02:11:44 pm
Albany now has 7 players in the portal

That is to be expected when a 20 year veteran coach departs. But when an assistant coach becomes HC coach and the majority of the players depart. There is a big problem problem. When UA finds their new HC, he will most likely be recruiting a new team anyways
Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: guest410 on March 16, 2021, 01:55:52 pm
Sayles and Mo have another year should they chose to use it
Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: Chairman of the Board on March 16, 2021, 12:41:21 pm
also C peter turay committed to UNO.

meaning we officially have no bigs, other than christie, even on the radar let alone on the roster for next year (does sayles have an extra covid year?).
Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: guest410 on March 16, 2021, 11:36:42 am
Albany now has 7 players in the portal
Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: OldSeawolf on March 14, 2021, 09:12:01 am
The only thing I remember about Boals is him having a stacked team, and losing at home in the QF to Binghamton, who I think had 7 wins all year.  He was obviously checked out already, with bags packed, before that game even began.   Not exactly SBU hall-of-fame material.
Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: SBU 2010 on March 13, 2021, 10:21:47 pm
Boals was a decent coach but everybody knew he wouldn't stick around given his whole life was in Ohio. We need a guy like Pikiell who is invested in the institution and building a program.
Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: VA_Seawolf on March 13, 2021, 08:47:26 pm
Boals is looking real good to get Ohio into the NCAA Tournament right now. They're up big at the half against Buffalo. They entered the MAC tournament as the 5 seed.
Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: Checkmate on March 13, 2021, 06:35:13 pm
Young is so defensive minded. Like 50 points a night. Sooooo slooooow. I don’t know that I could get into that.

This is in no way an endorsement of Geno.


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Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: SBU 2010 on March 13, 2021, 04:37:29 pm
Also, pushing hard for Fairfield to win the MAAC mainly so that Jay Young and Bryan Dougher make the tourney. It's still a crime Jay Young didn't get the job when Pikiell left- Heilbron was excited in getting the Power 5 coach in Boals who we all knew would bolt as soon as he had some modicum of success. Heilbron has made a couple of good hires in the non-revenue generating sports but has really done poorly on the basketball side IMHO.

I would offer our job to Dougher tomorrow if I was running things by the way. 
Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: SBU 2010 on March 13, 2021, 04:12:10 pm
Congrats to Hartford and Coach Gallagher- he's done a good job building a team and bringing in the right transfers. Not gonna lie, good to not see Vermont going to the tourney. UMass-Lowell is a great story. They are on a completely different trajectory than SBU unfortunately
Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: Hammertime on March 13, 2021, 01:37:11 pm
9 penalities for 80 yards in the first half.
Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: Hammertime on March 13, 2021, 01:31:47 pm
Imo foolish those 3 seniors turned down a great chance to get to the tourney which i think they would have. To be role players on avg to below avg p5 teams i hope gueye doesn’t take the bait. Elijah is the only move that made some sense.

When a HC isnt respected and the kids see him treat other players like garbage they look to leave. SB would have won the conference with those players staying and every one knows that. Its the coach. Hard to think of a worse HC hire in cbb in the past few years at any school knowing the history of the coach.

Yup, that appears to he the problem as of late with SB.
Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: guest419 on March 13, 2021, 01:27:45 pm
Imo foolish those 3 seniors turned down a great chance to get to the tourney which i think they would have. To be role players on avg to below avg p5 teams i hope gueye doesn’t take the bait. Elijah is the only move that made some sense.

When a HC isnt respected and the kids see him treat other players like garbage they look to leave. SB would have won the conference with those players staying and every one knows that. Its the coach. Hard to think of a worse HC hire in cbb in the past few years at any school knowing the history of the coach.
Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: Hammertime on March 13, 2021, 01:27:22 pm
If coach P doesnt start Josh in the 2nd half. I will
Have a stroke. He is clearly a more mobile Q. He also looks to be more patient and scans the field well. He is looks to be more accurate with his passes.

Coach P. Let go of your Napolean attitude and give Zamot a shot.
Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: guest419 on March 13, 2021, 01:23:47 pm
Imo foolish those 3 seniors turned down a great chance to get to the tourney which i think they would have. To be role players on avg to below avg p5 teams i hope gueye doesn’t take the bait. Elijah is the only move that made some sense.

treat kids poorly and they will want to leave. Its simple.
Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: Checkmate on March 12, 2021, 01:46:27 pm
Imo foolish those 3 seniors turned down a great chance to get to the tourney which i think they would have. To be role players on avg to below avg p5 teams i hope gueye doesn’t take the bait. Elijah is the only move that made some sense.

Just thinking about the swaps we made, taking position and impact into mind as best as I can ...

Olaniyi >> Greene (and I love Greene)
Garcia >> Habwe
Foreman ≤ JFR
Otchere < Sayles
Latimer > LES (position mismatch)
Ochefu = Diallo

In a year where the AE was light, I gotta think we'd be playing as the favorite tomorrow. Woulda been fun.
Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: Knicksbu99 on March 12, 2021, 09:17:54 am
Imo foolish those 3 seniors turned down a great chance to get to the tourney which i think they would have. To be role players on avg to below avg p5 teams i hope gueye doesn’t take the bait. Elijah is the only move that made some sense.
Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: ibosbu on March 11, 2021, 11:40:36 pm
Would love to see Gtown/UConn big east final. UConn made a good decision going back to BE. Their FBS aspirations failed and they didn’t wait too long to destroy their main sports bball.
Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: guest419 on March 11, 2021, 09:11:09 pm
yeah he may have left regardless of the coach... app state has students stick around for weekends: https://i.pinimg.com/originals/4b/a4/c4/4ba4c4f4433d4986e093ce396dba95d7.jpg

https://www.google.com/search?q=app+state+football+student+section&tbm=isch&ved=2ahUKEwiJn5raqajvAhX5Vd8KHf5HBUMQ2-cCegQIABAA&oq=app+state+football+student+section&gs_lcp=CgNpbWcQAzoCCAA6BAgAEEM6BggAEAUQHjoECAAQGFCg8QJY0YsDYLSNA2gCcAB4AYABcYgBywqSAQQxNi4ymAEAoAEBqgELZ3dzLXdpei1pbWfAAQE&sclient=img&ei=bhhKYImwCPmr_Qb-j5WYBA&bih=931&biw=1920&rlz=1C1CHBF_enUS822US822#imgrc=sQigx5Wnnc8YpM

It was under Boals. he didnt like the kid. Pikel recruited him.
Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: Checkmate on March 11, 2021, 12:54:09 pm
- Cal steamrolls Stanford to reach the Pac-12 quarters. Two minutes for Foreman after playing seven in the regular season finale.
- Miami still alive in the ACC.
- Latimer's season is done at Lehigh: 6.1 ppg in 10 games
- 14 games, 8 minutes per for Ochefu at Delaware. They're done also.
- Otchere and Garcia are both out there tonight to try to keep their seasons alive. Odds are not terrific for either.
Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: guest410 on March 11, 2021, 10:08:00 am
"Vermont’s Stef Smith is transferring.

The 6-foot-2 senior guard averaged 13.6 points per game  this past season."

https://twitter.com/GoodmanHoops/status/1370025280778080257
Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: Chairman of the Board on March 11, 2021, 08:21:52 am
yeah he may have left regardless of the coach... app state has students stick around for weekends: https://i.pinimg.com/originals/4b/a4/c4/4ba4c4f4433d4986e093ce396dba95d7.jpg

https://www.google.com/search?q=app+state+football+student+section&tbm=isch&ved=2ahUKEwiJn5raqajvAhX5Vd8KHf5HBUMQ2-cCegQIABAA&oq=app+state+football+student+section&gs_lcp=CgNpbWcQAzoCCAA6BAgAEEM6BggAEAUQHjoECAAQGFCg8QJY0YsDYLSNA2gCcAB4AYABcYgBywqSAQQxNi4ymAEAoAEBqgELZ3dzLXdpei1pbWfAAQE&sclient=img&ei=bhhKYImwCPmr_Qb-j5WYBA&bih=931&biw=1920&rlz=1C1CHBF_enUS822US822#imgrc=sQigx5Wnnc8YpM
Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: Hammertime on March 11, 2021, 05:29:44 am
Just think, Stony Brook, let this boy go! I think it was under coach Boals's watch.

https://twitter.com/MAlmonacy2016/status/1369758951949152261?s=20
Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: guest419 on March 10, 2021, 05:35:09 pm
Three SB kids in the portal.
Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: guest410 on March 10, 2021, 05:24:20 pm
According to Stadium's updated list, these are all the America East players in the portal:

Cameron Healy, 6-3, 190, G, RS Jr., Albany (3.2 ppg)
Will Kondrat, 6-7, 200, F, Jr., Albany (Didn’t play)
Antonio Rizzuto, 6-3, 195, G, Jr., Albany (12.5 ppg)
Wol Maiwen, 6-4, 185, G, Fr., Maine (1.3 ppg – 7 games)
Precious Okoh, 6-1, 190, G, Soph., Maine (4.8 ppg – 8 games)
Veljko Radakovic, 6-9, 210, F, Soph., Maine (2.3 ppg – 7 games)
Randell Wiel, 6-4, 195, G, Fr., Maine (Didn’t play) – DAYTONA STATE
Mykhailo Yagodin, 6-5, 195, G, Jr., Maine (4.3 ppg – 6 games)
Diego Willis, 6-4, 180, G, Jr., NJIT (5.9 ppg)
Leighton Elliott-Sewell, 6-6, 185, F, Jr., Stony Brook (2.6 ppg)
Tavin Pierre Philippe, 6-3, 185, G, Soph., Stony Brook (1.6 ppg)
Juwan White, 6-2, 185, G, Jr., Stony Brook (0.3 ppg – 6 games)
Charlie Russell Jr., 6-8, 200, F, Soph., UMass Lowell (0.0 ppg – 1 game)
Arkel Lamar, 6-5, 235, F, Grad, UMBC (3.3 ppg) – UMKC
Darnell Rogers, 5-2, 150, G, Sr.,UMBC (9.8 ppg)
Marque Maultsby, 6-3, 165, G, Jr., UNH (6.5 ppg)
Meekness Payne, 6-8, 200, F, Jr., UNH (3.0 ppg)
Sean Sutherlin, 6-5, 200, G, Sr., UNH (12.8 ppg, 9.3 rpg: 2019)
Bernie Andre, 6-6, 210, F, Grad, Vermont (11.2 ppg) – FIU

https://watchstadium.com/college-basketballs-2020-21-transfer-list-10-26-2020/
Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: OldSeawolf on March 10, 2021, 04:51:35 pm
Right you are, Checkmate, sorry for the bad info.
Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: Checkmate on March 10, 2021, 04:17:28 pm
5'2" UMBC guard Darnell Rogers (3 star guy) just entered into the transfer portal.    Interestingly, both TPP and Juwon White's name are no longer listed as transferees in the portal.

TPP and White are there—just further down on the complete list. We're headed north of 1,000, everybody!
Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: OldSeawolf on March 10, 2021, 11:19:09 am
5'2" UMBC guard Darnell Rogers (3 star guy) just entered into the transfer portal.    Interestingly, both TPP and Juwon White's name are no longer listed as transferees in the portal.
Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: guest419 on March 09, 2021, 03:29:47 pm
I remember at the preseason scrimmage his freshman year he looked like the best player on the floor. And then when games arrived, he was a completely different player – unsure of himself, going through the motions, etc. And let’s be fair here: I don’t think any of us were terribly disappointed to have Almonacy’s roster spot open when he decided to transfer.

But ... he goes to SNHU, gets all the minutes he wants, builds confidence, and last night looked like a completely different dude than what we saw. Way way more aggressive, and it looked like he filled out a little bit too.

Gotta be real happy for the kid. Maybe Ohio State vs App State in the first round so it’s Key vs. Almonacy.


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So he is a coachable kid who others but not Boals saw potential in and they coached him with their ability matching his. Good for them. Good for him.  He is a great story.
Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: Checkmate on March 09, 2021, 08:35:03 am
I remember at the preseason scrimmage his freshman year he looked like the best player on the floor. And then when games arrived, he was a completely different player – unsure of himself, going through the motions, etc. And let’s be fair here: I don’t think any of us were terribly disappointed to have Almonacy’s roster spot open when he decided to transfer.

But ... he goes to SNHU, gets all the minutes he wants, builds confidence, and last night looked like a completely different dude than what we saw. Way way more aggressive, and it looked like he filled out a little bit too.

Gotta be real happy for the kid. Maybe Ohio State vs App State in the first round so it’s Key vs. Almonacy.


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Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: Hammertime on March 09, 2021, 05:37:44 am
Good for Almonacy. Always liked him, and thought he didn’t get deserved playing time, but kept a great attitude.  He went D2 from sbu; glad to see he made it back and became their #1 scorer.

Other very good local High school athletes will look at this and decide not to play basketball at SBU. This school is sinking deep into the dark days again. I called it a couple of years ago when Boals departed and Coch P got a new contract extension.
Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: guest419 on March 08, 2021, 10:16:41 pm
And tournement MVP, for Almoncy. He was recruited by Coach Pikel. I'm happy for him. SBU and SH should be embaresed for their bad decisions. Look how Mike is ending his college career.
Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: OldSeawolf on March 08, 2021, 09:38:44 pm
Good for Almonacy. Always liked him, and thought he didn’t get deserved playing time, but kept a great attitude.  He went D2 from sbu; glad to see he made it back and became their #1 scorer.
Title: Around the AE/country
Post by: Checkmate on March 08, 2021, 08:36:12 pm
In case you missed it, Mike Almonacy has 27 points and App State is eight minutes away from the NCAA tournament. He had 23 and 19 in the quarters and semis.


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Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: OldSeawolf on March 08, 2021, 12:44:54 pm
Both Healy and Rizzuto of Albany, have entered transfer portal.
Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: guest419 on March 06, 2021, 06:33:40 pm
UMass Lowell knocked off UMBC and will now play in the AE tournament championship. WOW.

Shock the world??? Bring on Virginia!!

SH and GF will probably say they lost to the team that made it to the finals so the season wasnt that bad.
Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: OldSeawolf on March 06, 2021, 06:15:17 pm
Hartford bumps off UVM.  We’re gonna have a first time AE champ.  Rooting for UML.
Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: guest410 on March 06, 2021, 06:14:27 pm
Hartford-UMass Lowell for the conference tournament title. **** is crazy.

Per Jeff Goodman:

One America East coach just texted me this:

“THIS is why you don’t let your top 2 seeds not play for 2 weeks leading into a conference tournament. Hartford and Lowell.”

https://twitter.com/GoodmanHoops/status/1368337401211478022
Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: Hammertime on March 06, 2021, 05:09:16 pm
UMass Lowell knocked off UMBC and will now play in the AE tournament championship. WOW.

Shock the world??? Bring on Virginia!!
Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: guest410 on March 06, 2021, 04:38:38 pm
UMass Lowell knocked off UMBC and will now play in the AE tournament championship. WOW.
Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: guest410 on March 04, 2021, 04:18:47 pm
In addition to Juwan White and TPP of SBU entering the transfer portal (mentioned in another thread), add Cameron Healy of Albany (he'd be a nice pickup for SBU), and Diego Willis (NJIT), who I thought had a nice outside shot.

And Meekness Payne of UNH

https://verbalcommits.com/players/meekness-payne
Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: OldSeawolf on March 04, 2021, 03:58:15 pm
In addition to Juwan White and TPP of SBU entering the transfer portal (mentioned in another thread), add Cameron Healy of Albany (he'd be a nice pickup for SBU), and Diego Willis (NJIT), who I thought had a nice outside shot.
Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: guest410 on March 01, 2021, 04:20:11 pm
thanks.

here are the other openings: https://www.basketballforum.com/threads/2021-coaching-carousel.689904/page-10#post-15345654

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Openings so far: Albany, Boston College, Fordham, Penn State, Northern Illinois, New Mexico, Denver, Tennessee-Martin (coach died), UT-Rio Grande Valley (coach died), Texas State, Portland...Goodman also said Indiana State is probably going to open too.

Armchair opinion on what to watch for by firing, retiring or the current coach jumping ship to another opening to avoid being fired: Miami, Minnesota, Indiana, Iowa State, Kansas State, DePaul, Middle Tennessee, Illinois State, Central Connecticut, Washington, Vanderbilt, South Carolina, Texas A&M-Corpus Christi

UTRGV is otchere's home, right?

Yes. The coach died at the age of, I believe, 55, a couple of weeks ago.
Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: Chairman of the Board on March 01, 2021, 04:15:33 pm
thanks.

here are the other openings: https://www.basketballforum.com/threads/2021-coaching-carousel.689904/page-10#post-15345654

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Openings so far: Albany, Boston College, Fordham, Penn State, Northern Illinois, New Mexico, Denver, Tennessee-Martin (coach died), UT-Rio Grande Valley (coach died), Texas State, Portland...Goodman also said Indiana State is probably going to open too.

Armchair opinion on what to watch for by firing, retiring or the current coach jumping ship to another opening to avoid being fired: Miami, Minnesota, Indiana, Iowa State, Kansas State, DePaul, Middle Tennessee, Illinois State, Central Connecticut, Washington, Vanderbilt, South Carolina, Texas A&M-Corpus Christi

UTRGV is otchere's home, right?
Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: Hammertime on March 01, 2021, 01:08:52 pm
yeah, plus he gets a state pension i assume.

Actually, it is my understanding contract coaches dont get Define benefit pensions. Probably just a 401B, or something like that.
Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: Chairman of the Board on March 01, 2021, 12:23:18 pm
yeah, plus he gets a state pension i assume. 
Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: OldSeawolf on March 01, 2021, 11:43:38 am
was it really mutual? https://ualbanysports.com/news/2021/3/1/ualbany-head-mens-basketball-coach-will-brown-and-ualbany-athletics-agree-to-mutually-part-ways.aspx

i guess that makes it less surprising (?)

My guess, is that after 20 years, Brown asked UA admin to spin it that way.  If he saved and invested wisely, he should be able to retire, if that's what he wants.  Circa $ 400K in Albany is like $ 550K down here.  Maybe he can become a coaching consultant, and help us out :)
Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: guest419 on March 01, 2021, 11:07:22 am
Surprising news, IMO.  Will Brown let go at Albany:

https://twitter.com/JonRothstein/status/1366383489994620931?s=20

This isnt a surprise.  he didnt have any more time on his contract.
Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: Chairman of the Board on March 01, 2021, 11:03:38 am
was it really mutual? https://ualbanysports.com/news/2021/3/1/ualbany-head-mens-basketball-coach-will-brown-and-ualbany-athletics-agree-to-mutually-part-ways.aspx

i guess that makes it less surprising (?)
Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: Chairman of the Board on March 01, 2021, 10:33:43 am
i happen to agree.  it's not often i'll think something good of the purple and yellow.
Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: OldSeawolf on March 01, 2021, 10:09:01 am
agreed with both.  this feels like the wrong move for the great pains, and is very surprising.

https://www.timesunion.com/sports/article/Will-Brown-dismissed-as-UAlbany-basketball-coach-15988049.php

i hate speculation but there may be more to this story...

It'll never happen, but I'd hire Brown in a heartbeat at SBU.  He has major Long Island roots - he's a Miller Place HS grad (all county Bball player there), and had a great career at Dowling DII (if you guys remember that defunct school).  I recall that he stayed at Albany after his NCAA run due to his wife's upstate roots, after being courted elsewhere - he certainly could be in the A10 (or higher) by now.  The guy knows how to win the big game.
Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: ry1nik on March 01, 2021, 10:05:42 am
Brown has three straight losing seasons in a very weak conference. There's more to lose by keeping him than looking for a new start with a new coach.
Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: guest410 on March 01, 2021, 09:46:40 am
Late last night it was reported Bingo has fired their HC and is promoting assistant Levell Sanders to Interim HC for next year. The school has to conduct a search due to state regulations but it's expected Sanders will be the HC when that's said and done.
Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: Chairman of the Board on March 01, 2021, 09:36:25 am
agreed with both.  this feels like the wrong move for the great pains, and is very surprising.

https://www.timesunion.com/sports/article/Will-Brown-dismissed-as-UAlbany-basketball-coach-15988049.php

i hate speculation but there may be more to this story...
Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: Hammertime on March 01, 2021, 09:04:15 am
Surprising news, IMO.  Will Brown let go at Albany:

https://twitter.com/JonRothstein/status/1366383489994620931?s=20

Damn!!!! Huge mistake for UA. This is SB time to pick up a really good coach. He should have been SB HC years ago. A long Island guy too!!
Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: OldSeawolf on March 01, 2021, 08:47:35 am
Surprising news, IMO.  Will Brown let go at Albany:

https://twitter.com/JonRothstein/status/1366383489994620931?s=20
Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: Checkmate on January 16, 2021, 06:25:40 pm
Vermont 65
Maine 30

It’s Maine of course, but I don’t think UVM will go down quietly.


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Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: P5hope on January 16, 2021, 05:48:13 pm
Never really understood why they left to bottom tier teams. When stonybrook could win the league.
Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: Hammertime on January 16, 2021, 01:48:54 pm
Interesting info, Checkmate. Gotta wonder if any these guys are questioning their decisions, especially since they haven’t been able to play in front of large crowds. Although I haven’t seen him play, I think Garcia is the one guy who is really holding his own. I’ve seen Elijah play 3 times with Miami, and he pretty much looked like a fish out of water.

Elijah cant do anything against the bigs in the ACC
Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: OldSeawolf on January 16, 2021, 01:20:16 pm
Interesting info, Checkmate. Gotta wonder if any these guys are questioning their decisions, especially since they haven’t been able to play in front of large crowds. Although I haven’t seen him play, I think Garcia is the one guy who is really holding his own. I’ve seen Elijah play 3 times with Miami, and he pretty much looked like a fish out of water.
Title: Around the AE/country
Post by: Checkmate on January 16, 2021, 01:01:50 pm
It’s good to see Garcia on ESPN2 right now. It’s gotta be a thrill to play at that level. However, take a look at the standings and you see that he, Olaniyi and Foreman transferred to programs that entered the day 2-15 in conference.

At Bucknell, Latimer had 9 and 11 points in a back to back against Lafayette. The Bison are 0-4.

Otchere has 10 blocks and nine fouls in two games for UTRGV, both absolute blowouts against D-I noob Dixie State and D-II St. Mary’s (TX).

Elsewhere, Penn State hasn’t played in two weeks, but Sam Sessoms (Bingo) made a good impression prior to the hiatus, scoring in double digits in all seven games he’s played, including a season-high 17 in their last contest.

Anthony Lamb was taken sixth overall in this week’s G League draft by the Canton Charge. I don’t really get how the draft works but I guess that’s good.


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Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: Checkmate on January 02, 2021, 09:18:54 pm
Vermont falls to 2-3 in conference after a one-point loss to an Albany team that played without Healy. UA’s going to be tough – two close losses to UMBC and now this.

Not writing off Vermont yet but ... they don’t scare me. Five points from preseason first teamer Stef Smith.


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Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: OldSeawolf on December 28, 2020, 10:34:45 pm
Air, that was a great episode. Valvano was a character but real good guy who inspired many after he was diagnosed with cancer. That game, along with Villanova win 2 years after, were prob biggest 2 ncaa upsets of my lifetime.
Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: guest410 on December 28, 2020, 10:24:07 pm
Big ESPN 30 for 30 fan. The one on Jimmy V and that NC State team is very good, and talks about that play.
Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: OldSeawolf on December 28, 2020, 09:18:19 pm
Quite the roster:

https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/schools/houston/1983.html

I think NC state beat MJ in the ACC tourn thT year
Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: Chairman of the Board on December 28, 2020, 09:00:53 pm
i think they beat MJ too.

that drexler team with benny anders?  he was just as good as drexler.  and was olajuwon there too?  phi slamma jamma?
Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: OldSeawolf on December 28, 2020, 08:49:33 pm
CoB, yeah Whittenburg to Charles on the dunk. Classic game; beat Goliath Hakeem and Drexler.
Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: Chairman of the Board on December 28, 2020, 07:35:04 pm
i watch it all the time.  survive and advance.  cutting down the nets.  the '93 espy award speech. 

yes, looked just like it.  whittenburg to charles, i think.  or was it thurl bailey.
Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: OldSeawolf on December 28, 2020, 06:35:04 pm
Some of you guys are prob too young to remember this, but that final NJIT play to win reminded me of the final play of the NC State championship win over Houston back in 1983. ESPN plays it all the time with Jimmy Valvano running around the court in disbelief after that missed shot turned pass leads to winning layup.
Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: guest410 on December 28, 2020, 05:37:11 pm
https://twitter.com/NJITHoops/status/1343676363765669888 Such an ugly string of events, but NJIT scored at the buzzer.
Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: guest369 on December 28, 2020, 05:19:20 pm
Jesus christ. That's two losses for Vermont already. When was the last time that happened?
Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: guest410 on December 28, 2020, 05:17:16 pm
NJIT double OT victory over Vermont. First-ever AE win.
Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: OldSeawolf on December 24, 2020, 11:04:22 pm
I agree with VA_Seawolf. Go A10 or stay in AE.  The cost and effort associated with a conf move is considerable, so moving to the CAA doesn’t buy you enough imo. Going A-10 would be more worth the effort/cost, and would be a much better long-term play.  But until we win a couple of AE titles or have a couple of FCS deep runs, we are not going to be able to attract the caliber of coaches required in the A-10, and are not going to be able to attract the caliber of athletes worthy of the A-10, who aren’t going to bolt after 1 good season (like they will in the AE). Unfortunately, in the current climate, we’re not going anywhere anytime soon. SH is gonna see some immense budgetary pressure from Administration, and will have to decide what sports stay and what sports go, and will be looking to save his own job first imo, before embarking on any kind of conf move.
Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: guest410 on December 24, 2020, 05:24:50 pm
The Foreman-Olaniyi-Garcia-Yeboah SBU team would compete well in the A10. And if they were in the A10, maybe they wouldn't have defected.

Yeboah was never going to stay for that fifth year. Even before Boals left he was talking about either going pro or transferring. Whether it be A10 or not, he wasn't feeling connected to the place. Pikell offered that.
Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: guest369 on December 24, 2020, 04:55:07 pm
The Foreman-Olaniyi-Garcia-Yeboah SBU team would compete well in the A10. And if they were in the A10, maybe they wouldn't have defected.
Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: guest410 on December 24, 2020, 04:09:18 pm
I stand by my prior comments on the CAA being a lateral move.


You don't gain anything as far as positive exposure or likelihood of making the Big Dance by hopping from one one-bid conference to another. The CAA isn't like it was 15 years ago where it could send 2-3 teams to the Dance. We'd have tougher competition for that single bid with worse travel than we have now. Hate on the AE all you want, but until we can get into the A10 (the level of conference we should be targeting) The AE makes sense for us. With a good coach there's no reason we can't dominate this league and make it to the Big Dance more often than not. Vermont has dominated us as of late, but it's not impossible to change that.

The CAA also has it's own issues. It too has the internal strife of football schools vs basketball schools (Hosftra and Northeastern both got in because they had football, but then both proceeded to drop football  ;D ) , northern vs southern schools, plus JMU is clearly going to be out the door soon to FBS and then what will come after that? William and Mary would be a better fit in the Patriot League too. What then? Elon could hop back to the SoCon, and before you know it you just left the AE for a sinking ship. The CAA has some serious internal issues nobody wants to talk about. The AE may not be great, but it's incredibly stable for the level of conference that it is. All the schools (Hartford being the exception) share the distinction of being well regarded public schools in their respective states with us being the best one. Plus travel is much better. Do you really think UNC Wilmington and College of Charleston enjoy sending their team(s) all the way up to Boston to play Northeastern and vice versa? For a one bid league with a crap TV deal and no money? I'd take the ESPN deal we have for the added exposure over whatever the hell that joke of a TV deal the CAA negotiated a year or so ago. It's just as likely Delaware and Towson hop back over here to the AE if anything.

A10, FBS, or bust. Anything else isn't even worth considering. FBS might have to be put on hold for a while, but there's no reason for SH to not be pushing us for A10 membership. The bottom quarter of that conference is a joke and we'd be far better than any of those teams. The A10 is a solid 2-3 bid conference annually getting as many as 5 back in 2013 I believe. That's where we need to go.

Spoke to a couple of Delaware sources recently, and one almost every day, the school is very happy with the CAA in terms of basketball and football. They have zero plans of changing conferences even if offered.

The rest of what you pointed out though makes sense in certain aspects such as the TV deal, JMU looking to jump ship, but A10 Basketball would eat SBU alive. At least given the current roster and coaching staff. IF Pikell were still here, then yes, the school would have a chance at A10 because he is a good coach, recruits well and builds up the okay recruits into great players. Even Boals had some of that in him. But GeNO? Football and Basketball here at stuck with **** coaches.
Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: VA_Seawolf on December 24, 2020, 02:09:35 pm
I stand by my prior comments on the CAA being a lateral move.


You don't gain anything as far as positive exposure or likelihood of making the Big Dance by hopping from one one-bid conference to another. The CAA isn't like it was 15 years ago where it could send 2-3 teams to the Dance. We'd have tougher competition for that single bid with worse travel than we have now. Hate on the AE all you want, but until we can get into the A10 (the level of conference we should be targeting) The AE makes sense for us. With a good coach there's no reason we can't dominate this league and make it to the Big Dance more often than not. Vermont has dominated us as of late, but it's not impossible to change that.

The CAA also has it's own issues. It too has the internal strife of football schools vs basketball schools (Hosftra and Northeastern both got in because they had football, but then both proceeded to drop football  ;D ) , northern vs southern schools, plus JMU is clearly going to be out the door soon to FBS and then what will come after that? William and Mary would be a better fit in the Patriot League too. What then? Elon could hop back to the SoCon, and before you know it you just left the AE for a sinking ship. The CAA has some serious internal issues nobody wants to talk about. The AE may not be great, but it's incredibly stable for the level of conference that it is. All the schools (Hartford being the exception) share the distinction of being well regarded public schools in their respective states with us being the best one. Plus travel is much better. Do you really think UNC Wilmington and College of Charleston enjoy sending their team(s) all the way up to Boston to play Northeastern and vice versa? For a one bid league with a crap TV deal and no money? I'd take the ESPN deal we have for the added exposure over whatever the hell that joke of a TV deal the CAA negotiated a year or so ago. It's just as likely Delaware and Towson hop back over here to the AE if anything.

A10, FBS, or bust. Anything else isn't even worth considering. FBS might have to be put on hold for a while, but there's no reason for SH to not be pushing us for A10 membership. The bottom quarter of that conference is a joke and we'd be far better than any of those teams. The A10 is a solid 2-3 bid conference annually getting as many as 5 back in 2013 I believe. That's where we need to go.
Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: ry1nik on December 24, 2020, 01:32:09 pm
AirTurn, it wasn’t a stupid comment but it would not help the program’s profile much. The way to significantly boost SB basketball’s national profile is to earn a spot in the NCAA tournament. Since both the AEC and CAA are one bid leagues, it makes more sense to stay in the weaker of the two and have a better chance of winning the single bid.
Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: guest410 on December 24, 2020, 12:59:07 pm
This is a first...the AEC is the weakest D1 conference out of 31. It’s been hurting for a while but never this bad.
http://realtimerpi.com/rpi_conf_Men.html

It's not going to get any better either. No non-conference games hurt us big time. Last year, UVM played five teams inside the RPI top 100 before conference play began, and they'll win those games occasionally. We had four and lost four, but it still helps the RPI to get steamrolled by a juggernaut. This year, you look at the Big Sky, which is right above us ... Montana lost to teams ranked 36th, 46th and 82nd, and beat a solid Washington team at 114. There are other examples too.

Although now that I look at it, it's saying we have a better non-conference win percentage and better overall SOS than the Big Sky. I demand we be ranked 30th!

I've been saying for years. SB should have pushed hard to join the CAA in all sports but I got the pitchfork thrown at me from people telling me it is only a lateral, why bother.

With Geno Ford and a bunch of transfers on this team, SB belongs in the AE conference, for BB at least. The girls Lax absolutely should move on and out to a more respectable conference. Maybe the Big10 will one day accept these girls..

Women's Lax is regarded as one of the ten best in the nation, but get screwed come tournament time because they're an AE team. It's bullshit. How that program became top tier, from a school like this is insane, and Spallina is a damn great coach and recruiter.

As y'all know, SBU tried going to CAA and Hofstra's AD shut it down for reasons that to this day are dumb. I said it at some point on here that SBU needs to go CAA and someone said it was a lateral move and suggested it was a stupid comment. But it's not. The CAA is a better conference in literally every sport. Plus, it would be nice to see all Stony Brook teams play under the same conference (aside from Women's Tennis who play in the Missouri Valley Conference 'MVC').
Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: OldSeawolf on December 24, 2020, 08:56:43 am
This is a first...the AEC is the weakest D1 conference out of 31. It’s been hurting for a while but never this bad.
http://realtimerpi.com/rpi_conf_Men.html

It's not going to get any better either. No non-conference games hurt us big time. Last year, UVM played five teams inside the RPI top 100 before conference play began, and they'll win those games occasionally. We had four and lost four, but it still helps the RPI to get steamrolled by a juggernaut. This year, you look at the Big Sky, which is right above us ... Montana lost to teams ranked 36th, 46th and 82nd, and beat a solid Washington team at 114. There are other examples too.

Although now that I look at it, it's saying we have a better non-conference win percentage and better overall SOS than the Big Sky. I demand we be ranked 30th!

Agree that the lack of non-conf games hurt the AE.   This is one ranking.  FYI, Kenpom, which I put more stock into, has us ranked 24th out of 32 conferences.
Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: Hammertime on December 24, 2020, 04:37:26 am
This is a first...the AEC is the weakest D1 conference out of 31. It’s been hurting for a while but never this bad.
http://realtimerpi.com/rpi_conf_Men.html

It's not going to get any better either. No non-conference games hurt us big time. Last year, UVM played five teams inside the RPI top 100 before conference play began, and they'll win those games occasionally. We had four and lost four, but it still helps the RPI to get steamrolled by a juggernaut. This year, you look at the Big Sky, which is right above us ... Montana lost to teams ranked 36th, 46th and 82nd, and beat a solid Washington team at 114. There are other examples too.

Although now that I look at it, it's saying we have a better non-conference win percentage and better overall SOS than the Big Sky. I demand we be ranked 30th!

I've been saying for years. SB should have pushed hard to join the CAA in all sports but I got the pitchfork thrown at me from people telling me it is only a lateral, why bother.

With Geno Ford and a bunch of transfers on this team, SB belongs in the AE conference, for BB at least. The girls Lax absolutely should move on and out to a more respectable conference. Maybe the Big10 will one day accept these girls..
Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: VA_Seawolf on December 24, 2020, 02:32:48 am
This is a first...the AEC is the weakest D1 conference out of 31. It’s been hurting for a while but never this bad.
http://realtimerpi.com/rpi_conf_Men.html

It's not going to get any better either. No non-conference games hurt us big time. Last year, UVM played five teams inside the RPI top 100 before conference play began, and they'll win those games occasionally. We had four and lost four, but it still helps the RPI to get steamrolled by a juggernaut. This year, you look at the Big Sky, which is right above us ... Montana lost to teams ranked 36th, 46th and 82nd, and beat a solid Washington team at 114. There are other examples too.

Although now that I look at it, it's saying we have a better non-conference win percentage and better overall SOS than the Big Sky. I demand we be ranked 30th!

Yikes....

I'll bang the same old "we need to GTFO out of the AE" drum again, but really, this year is such an anomaly with the virus and everything that I wouldn't necessarily put too much stock in the results this year. There are going to be some lean years ahead for this conference and its programs, but I wouldn't overreact to this year. We'll get better. If anything this probably just means the usual doormats like Bing and Maine are just worse this year than normal. 
Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: Checkmate on December 23, 2020, 10:47:54 pm
This is a first...the AEC is the weakest D1 conference out of 31. It’s been hurting for a while but never this bad.
http://realtimerpi.com/rpi_conf_Men.html

It's not going to get any better either. No non-conference games hurt us big time. Last year, UVM played five teams inside the RPI top 100 before conference play began, and they'll win those games occasionally. We had four and lost four, but it still helps the RPI to get steamrolled by a juggernaut. This year, you look at the Big Sky, which is right above us ... Montana lost to teams ranked 36th, 46th and 82nd, and beat a solid Washington team at 114. There are other examples too.

Although now that I look at it, it's saying we have a better non-conference win percentage and better overall SOS than the Big Sky. I demand we be ranked 30th!
Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: guest369 on December 23, 2020, 09:59:41 pm
What an embarrassment. Being affiliated with this conference is an image problem for SBU, too.
Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: ry1nik on December 23, 2020, 09:17:33 pm
This is a first...the AEC is the weakest D1 conference out of 31. It’s been hurting for a while but never this bad.
http://realtimerpi.com/rpi_conf_Men.html
Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: Checkmate on December 22, 2020, 09:47:07 am
I watched the 2nd half, and UML is legit.  UVM definitely misses Lamb, and is beatable, as you reported.

They played without two bigs – Davis and Murphy – who were out with back injuries. Per the Burlington Free Press, Davis is day to day, and Murphy is week to week.
Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: guest410 on December 21, 2020, 11:19:44 pm
Lowell wins. Lowell wins. They shot the lights out against Vermont tonight, and UVM played very small most of the night. Gotta think they bounce back tomorrow, although I’d welcome a hyped-up Riverhawk team here next week.


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Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: OldSeawolf on December 21, 2020, 09:51:30 pm
I watched the 2nd half, and UML is legit.  UVM definitely misses Lamb, and is beatable, as you reported.
Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: Checkmate on December 21, 2020, 07:17:25 pm
Lowell wins. Lowell wins. They shot the lights out against Vermont tonight, and UVM played very small most of the night. Gotta think they bounce back tomorrow, although I’d welcome a hyped-up Riverhawk team here next week.


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Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: Checkmate on December 16, 2020, 05:26:12 pm
Elijah at the center of Jim Larranaga's outburst about timing of the transfer rule. https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/30503888/miami-hurricanes-men-hoops-coach-jim-larranaga-blasts-timing-potential-transfer-rule-change

Welcome to the beginning of the Wild West of the NCAA!  I tend to agree with his argument though.  Probably better for Elijah if he plays this year, if he has any aspirations of playing in Europe afterwards.
Elijah’s a go at Miami. https://twitter.com/goodmanhoops/status/1339332711077588997?s=21


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Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: OldSeawolf on December 14, 2020, 10:16:58 am
Elijah at the center of Jim Larranaga's outburst about timing of the transfer rule. https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/30503888/miami-hurricanes-men-hoops-coach-jim-larranaga-blasts-timing-potential-transfer-rule-change

Welcome to the beginning of the Wild West of the NCAA!  I tend to agree with his argument though.  Probably better for Elijah if he plays this year, if he has any aspirations of playing in Europe afterwards.
Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: Hammertime on December 14, 2020, 05:17:20 am
I am curious. Does anyone here believe that Geno Ford has what it takes to recruit high-level mid-major players? I mean. Coach Boals and Pikiell had connections and good players came to SB, and for the most part, stayed. My take on Geno Ford going forward is, he will only recruit the leftovers that other low-level teams don't want or transfers from other low-level D1 teams. The mass exodus that occurred after the end of the season last year was a sign that something is off with this coaching squad, and players don't like it here anymore.

I want to see how these guys gel and play this year before making and harsh criticism, but my gut feeling is telling me something just isn't right with Ford.

One of the first players Boals reached out to when he moved to Ohio, Alex Antetokounmpo. Sound familiar? Yea, the youngest of the five brothers. He was a 3-star recruit who was leaning towards Ohio before deciding to go pro after HS. And don't forget. D'Angelo Russell and a few other Brooklyn Nets players showed up to an SBU game in 2019. That's not happening with Geno.

If we were getting NBA players at our games, why am I just now hearing about this? That's big ****** news and shows how much we've fallen if that's no longer happening.

Yup, D'Angelo Russel was sitting right in front of me on the floor seats the entire game. It is stuff like that that is why SB should always be looking for a name coach. Russel wasn't there because of Geno, that I can reassure you.

Even after a few years, that name coach departs to a power conference, it is still a huge recognition for SB to have him for that time. Other good assistants wouldn't mind starting out at SB because of the history of recruiting good players and with the hopes of moving up as Pikiel and Boles did.

I'm sorry guys but I have every reason to believe that Geno Ford is a dud and he will not be successful at SB. His time at Bradley University will rear its ugly head out again ..
Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: VA_Seawolf on December 14, 2020, 02:08:24 am
I am curious. Does anyone here believe that Geno Ford has what it takes to recruit high-level mid-major players? I mean. Coach Boals and Pikiell had connections and good players came to SB, and for the most part, stayed. My take on Geno Ford going forward is, he will only recruit the leftovers that other low-level teams don't want or transfers from other low-level D1 teams. The mass exodus that occurred after the end of the season last year was a sign that something is off with this coaching squad, and players don't like it here anymore.

I want to see how these guys gel and play this year before making and harsh criticism, but my gut feeling is telling me something just isn't right with Ford.

One of the first players Boals reached out to when he moved to Ohio, Alex Antetokounmpo. Sound familiar? Yea, the youngest of the five brothers. He was a 3-star recruit who was leaning towards Ohio before deciding to go pro after HS. And don't forget. D'Angelo Russell and a few other Brooklyn Nets players showed up to an SBU game in 2019. That's not happening with Geno.

If we were getting NBA players at our games, why am I just now hearing about this? That's big ****** news and shows how much we've fallen if that's no longer happening.
Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: Checkmate on December 13, 2020, 10:52:53 pm
Elijah at the center of Jim Larranaga's outburst about timing of the transfer rule. https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/30503888/miami-hurricanes-men-hoops-coach-jim-larranaga-blasts-timing-potential-transfer-rule-change
Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: OldSeawolf on December 13, 2020, 07:47:58 pm
Irony is that it was the only shot he made for the game. Good for him though.
Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: guest410 on December 13, 2020, 05:15:23 pm
Makale Foreman with the buzzer-beating three-point shot to lift Cal over San Francisco. https://twitter.com/WaybrightAdam/status/1338242173632835585
Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: guest410 on December 05, 2020, 01:20:27 pm
I am curious. Does anyone here believe that Geno Ford has what it takes to recruit high-level mid-major players? I mean. Coach Boals and Pikiell had connections and good players came to SB, and for the most part, stayed. My take on Geno Ford going forward is, he will only recruit the leftovers that other low-level teams don't want or transfers from other low-level D1 teams. The mass exodus that occurred after the end of the season last year was a sign that something is off with this coaching squad, and players don't like it here anymore.

I want to see how these guys gel and play this year before making and harsh criticism, but my gut feeling is telling me something just isn't right with Ford.

One of the first players Boals reached out to when he moved to Ohio, Alex Antetokounmpo. Sound familiar? Yea, the youngest of the five brothers. He was a 3-star recruit who was leaning towards Ohio before deciding to go pro after HS. And don't forget. D'Angelo Russell and a few other Brooklyn Nets players showed up to an SBU game in 2019. That's not happening with Geno.
Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: P5hope on December 05, 2020, 09:31:55 am
I dont think geno has a problem getting talent. Its about how he uses that talent and it is way too early to tell how this team can gel together. I mean Jrod was a good juco recruit and policelli was a 3 star outta hs. Geno was put in a tough position by the mass exodus of guys which is just the new normal in college bball. I like the jayhawks/ luhi pipeline they are building though.
Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: OldSeawolf on December 05, 2020, 07:59:49 am
I am curious. Does anyone here believe that Geno Ford has what it takes to recruit high-level mid-major players? I mean. Coach Boals and Pikiell had connections and good players came to SB, and for the most part, stayed. My take on Geno Ford going forward is, he will only recruit the leftovers that other low-level teams don't want or transfers from other low-level D1 teams. The mass exodus that occurred after the end of the season last year was a sign that something is off with this coaching squad, and players don't like it here anymore.

I want to see how these guys gel and play this year before making and harsh criticism, but my gut feeling is telling me something just isn't right with Ford.

Hammer, the college landscape has changed big time.  Lower-level mid-majors like SBU will score an occasional winner that is missed by the bigger colleges; that will continue.  But with transfer rules loosening in favor of the college-athlete, anyone of quality will be one and done at schools like SBU.  These types of kids will use SBU as a stepping stone to a higher level college in subsequent years.  Although it's too early to tell yet, a guy like JRod could transfer at the end of the year if he has a big year at SBU this year.  Kids all have the dream of playing professionally (whether it's realistic or not), and the NCAA is now giving them the latitude to play in the best league they can play in, in lieu of paying these kids, for maximum exposure.  Free agency on steriods has now begun.   No reflection on Geno, IMO.  Garcia and Elijah can certainly compete at a higher level, although Garcia minutes early on (except for one game) is way diminished.  Makale getting the minutes big time at Cal.  Garcia leaving got everyone else thinking, and that's when the dominoes started to fall, IMO.
Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: Hammertime on December 05, 2020, 04:48:21 am
I am curious. Does anyone here believe that Geno Ford has what it takes to recruit high-level mid-major players? I mean. Coach Boals and Pikiell had connections and good players came to SB, and for the most part, stayed. My take on Geno Ford going forward is, he will only recruit the leftovers that other low-level teams don't want or transfers from other low-level D1 teams. The mass exodus that occurred after the end of the season last year was a sign that something is off with this coaching squad, and players don't like it here anymore.

I want to see how these guys gel and play this year before making and harsh criticism, but my gut feeling is telling me something just isn't right with Ford.
Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: Checkmate on December 04, 2020, 11:22:45 pm
I know these guys weren't realistic gets for us, but it's nevertheless nice to see Long Island talent play major minutes early at big-time programs. Zed Key (Brentwood/LuHi) is averaging 7 points a night off the bench for Ohio State, and Andre Curbelo (LuHi) is at 10 ppg for #5 Illinois.
Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: VA_Seawolf on December 02, 2020, 04:38:46 pm
Andrew Garcia with a team-high 22 points in 23 minutes off the bench for Georgia in their 85-75 win over FAMU on Sunday. 6 for 8 from the field, 10 for 11 from the line.

Makale Foreman played a team-high 35 minutes in Cal's win over Nicholls State last night, putting up six points, six boards and five assists. Through three games – in true Chuck fashion – he's 9 for 28 from the field (.321), including 6 for 21 from deep (.286).

No sign of Jeff Otchere with UTRGV just yet due to injury.

Good to hear they're playing well. It's nuts how this team just completely imploded back in March as the world was going to hell. We'd be the clear favorites had we been able to keep all of those guys here. Latimer too. I couldn't even tell you who is on our roster now other than Gueye.
Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: Checkmate on December 01, 2020, 06:35:23 pm
I watched a good amount of the UNH/Bryant game, figured we'll see both. Bryant is really good. Their press is just relentless and they come down the floor and get shots off quickly. Green is a blur – nearly impossible to keep in front of you. It's a miracle that UNH kept it close, particularly without Sutherlin.
Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: Checkmate on December 01, 2020, 10:59:15 am
Andrew Garcia with a team-high 22 points in 23 minutes off the bench for Georgia in their 85-75 win over FAMU on Sunday. 6 for 8 from the field, 10 for 11 from the line.

Makale Foreman played a team-high 35 minutes in Cal's win over Nicholls State last night, putting up six points, six boards and five assists. Through three games – in true Chuck fashion – he's 9 for 28 from the field (.321), including 6 for 21 from deep (.286).

No sign of Jeff Otchere with UTRGV just yet due to injury.
Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: Checkmate on November 28, 2020, 10:43:24 am
BTW, Hartford looked really solid against UConn yesterday. They couldn’t make a shot in the first half but settled down and cut the lead to three before UConn pulled away. The kid Flowers, who I viewed as mainly a shooter a year ago, was extremely aggressive going to the hoop even against a long and physical team. I could see him being an 18 ppg type who challenges for first team all conference honors.


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Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: OldSeawolf on November 25, 2020, 09:37:17 pm
Good call on that game Checkmate.
Title: Around the AE/country
Post by: Checkmate on November 25, 2020, 06:07:09 pm
Real nice OOC win out of the gate for Lowell. They were 14 point dogs and won handily. 15 turnovers in the first half; just four thereafter.

Wish I bet the ML but did take them ATS

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Title: Around the AE/country
Post by: Checkmate on November 24, 2020, 10:39:55 pm
This season's going to be insane. Maine was scheduled to play Virginia at Mohegan before it came up with a positive COVID test Tuesday, so now Virginia is facing Towson, and Maine is off for the weekend.

Lowell's an early 14-point dog against San Francisco on a neutral floor. I know they haven't practiced much, but I think Noel's the best player on the floor, and Lowell didn't fly cross country to play it. I'd take all those points.
Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: Chairman of the Board on November 24, 2020, 10:32:53 am
ruTgers makes an appearance in a top 25 (note, local paper homerism): https://nypost.com/2020/11/21/college-basketball-the-posts-preseason-top-25-revealed/
https://nypost.com/2020/11/23/rutgers-mens-basketball-2020-season-preview-predictions/

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21. Rutgers
Steve Pikiell performed a miracle at Stony Brook. His work at Rutgers has been even better.

Title: Around the AE/country
Post by: Checkmate on November 23, 2020, 03:36:02 pm
It’s not much but any piece of the world’s most elite league is a good thing for the AE.

http://go.uvm.edu/lambpistons


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Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: VA_Seawolf on July 18, 2020, 03:41:11 am
https://twitter.com/NicoleAuerbach/status/1284150868309422080?s=20
“ America East is postponing fall sport competitions, source tells
@TheAthletic
. Winter sports unaffected at this time. The hope is to play fall sports in the spring.”

If in fact, Fall Sports are actually going to be played in the Spring, I would think that this is going to overwhelm athletics departments.   Very tough task.


Covid will still be around in the spring. Best to just cancel fall sports all together. It'll suck, but it is what it is.
Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: OldSeawolf on July 17, 2020, 01:48:35 pm
https://twitter.com/NicoleAuerbach/status/1284150868309422080?s=20
“ America East is postponing fall sport competitions, source tells
@TheAthletic
. Winter sports unaffected at this time. The hope is to play fall sports in the spring.”

If in fact, Fall Sports are actually going to be played in the Spring, I would think that this is going to overwhelm athletics departments.   Very tough task.
Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: ibosbu on July 17, 2020, 12:10:14 pm
https://twitter.com/NicoleAuerbach/status/1284150868309422080?s=20
“ America East is postponing fall sport competitions, source tells
@TheAthletic
. Winter sports unaffected at this time. The hope is to play fall sports in the spring.”
Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: OldSeawolf on July 01, 2020, 06:08:22 pm
I wont disagree with you. He had an exceptionally great attitude, and with regular reps, he may have developed into something.
Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: Hammertime on July 01, 2020, 04:33:03 pm
Per Jeff Borzello, Chef is now headed to Delaware rather than Southern NH.


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Rather strange, no?  Delaware was a stronger team than we were last season.  Unless they graduated/lost a bunch of players, Chef will be a bench player at best.  He's probably kicking himself that he led the charge leaving SBU.

You never know. New coach. New players. New atmosphere. Ochefu has the strength and size to be a really good mid-major BB player. He just didn't have the confidence and to make that turn.
Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: OldSeawolf on July 01, 2020, 02:45:42 pm
Per Jeff Borzello, Chef is now headed to Delaware rather than Southern NH.


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Rather strange, no?  Delaware was a stronger team than we were last season.  Unless they graduated/lost a bunch of players, Chef will be a bench player at best.  He's probably kicking himself that he led the charge leaving SBU.
Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: Checkmate on June 30, 2020, 08:53:37 pm
Per Jeff Borzello, Chef is now headed to Delaware rather than Southern NH.


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Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: Chairman of the Board on June 13, 2020, 10:24:59 pm
https://www.relaxlacrosseblog.com/post/njit-america-east-robert-morris-northeast-nec-central-michigan-lacrosse
Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: guest369 on June 13, 2020, 07:46:54 pm
NJIT isn’t as shitty academically as I thought they were. At 11,000 they’re still a small school, but our 27,000 just dwarfs everyone else.

I don’t know what the procedure to leave conferences is like, but I hope that Shawn is doing the hard work behind the scenes.
Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: SaltySeawolf on June 13, 2020, 09:06:07 am
Also gives another game a year that is fairly close to home.  Ive never been to Maine, New Hampshire and UMBC only once.  Hartford and NJIT are games you can regularly get to.
Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: Chairman of the Board on June 13, 2020, 08:21:10 am
all makes sense.  while jersey tech is a fine school, not sure this really adds flair, but does give us another local rival to compete with.
Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: OldSeawolf on June 13, 2020, 07:15:20 am
The move is good, but I question why it was made. We didn't need to add anyone.

Plain and simple.  NJIT tried to get into AE before and was rejected.  It makes much more sense for them than traveling to FL for games.  For AE, it's economics and it's insurance against defections (namely, SBU and UVM) and the possible demise of the league.  Of course, with sports and budgets up in the air, I don't think these defections will happen for awhile, at least in the case of SBU.
Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: VA_Seawolf on June 13, 2020, 03:20:00 am
The move is good, but I question why it was made. We didn't need to add anyone.
Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: OldSeawolf on June 12, 2020, 09:32:41 pm
It's official now with NJIT:

https://twitter.com/AmericaEast/status/1271517844979646465?s=20

I think this is a good move for all.  NJIT is a highly ranked academic institution, they have a real nice, new stadium, and they will recruit better playing in Northeast.  I'm assuming they will be eligible for the tournament immediately since they've been D1 already for several years.

I don't think we're going anywhere in the near term, with SUNY budgets going to be in the crapper.  As already stated, moving to CAA is a waste for the effort involved.  I'm hoping we can shoot for the A-10, in a couple of years, when budgets are hopefully restored and we lick this Covid thing.



Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: Chairman of the Board on June 12, 2020, 06:23:33 pm
now that's an interesting idea.... del/towson moving BACK to the AE, and adding football.
Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: VA_Seawolf on June 12, 2020, 05:23:32 pm
If I’m being optimistic, maybe this opens the door for one of the schools (aka us) to GTFO of the America East

Realignment moves are often sudden and catch you by surprise. So if somebody knew something, adding NJIT as a backfill would be smart, but I don't think that's what's happening. Not yet anyway. I also feel like if anyone left it would be Vermont first. We're better by every metric, but they've actually been winning on the court. I could see the A10 as a landing spot for them (or us honestly) if they left.

I say drop all talk of joining the CAA. That's a lateral move and a stupid one with JMU half way out the door to FBS practically. Hell, I bet if anything we could take Towson/Delaware from the CAA and bring football in-house to the AE if we wanted to. There's some deep instability brewing in that conference.
Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: guest369 on June 12, 2020, 01:34:25 pm
If I’m being optimistic, maybe this opens the door for one of the schools (aka us) to GTFO of the America East
Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: Chairman of the Board on June 12, 2020, 12:55:31 pm
It’s a no brainer for NJIT. The AE has its warts but it’s better than going to Kennesaw State, Lipscomb, et al. If you’re going to be in a one-bid league, at least have it be local.


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Now somebody who claims to be the A-Sun commissioner says that Goodman's tweet is inaccurate. "More to come."

https://twitter.com/ASUNCommish

I hope this is bogus. Nothing against NJIT, but we don't need to expand and they really don't add much to our conference. They fit academically more or less and the geography is good, but outside of that there's no need to make this move. If someone left sure, NJIT will be a great replacement once we finally get out of this conference, but until then I don't see the point.

Maybe that is the plan. NJIT enters the AE and SB goes into the CAA for all sports.

https://www.uslaxmagazine.com/college/men/njit-to-join-america-east-leave-atlantic-sun-conference
Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: Chairman of the Board on June 12, 2020, 09:12:49 am
https://stonybrookathletics.com/news/2020/6/11/general-america-east-synergy-sports-technologies-announce-innovative-partnership.aspx
Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: Hammertime on June 12, 2020, 05:48:38 am
It’s a no brainer for NJIT. The AE has its warts but it’s better than going to Kennesaw State, Lipscomb, et al. If you’re going to be in a one-bid league, at least have it be local.


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Now somebody who claims to be the A-Sun commissioner says that Goodman's tweet is inaccurate. "More to come."

https://twitter.com/ASUNCommish

I hope this is bogus. Nothing against NJIT, but we don't need to expand and they really don't add much to our conference. They fit academically more or less and the geography is good, but outside of that there's no need to make this move. If someone left sure, NJIT will be a great replacement once we finally get out of this conference, but until then I don't see the point.

Maybe that is the plan. NJIT enters the AE and SB goes into the CAA for all sports.
Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: VA_Seawolf on June 11, 2020, 05:12:29 pm
It’s a no brainer for NJIT. The AE has its warts but it’s better than going to Kennesaw State, Lipscomb, et al. If you’re going to be in a one-bid league, at least have it be local.


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Now somebody who claims to be the A-Sun commissioner says that Goodman's tweet is inaccurate. "More to come."

https://twitter.com/ASUNCommish

I hope this is bogus. Nothing against NJIT, but we don't need to expand and they really don't add much to our conference. They fit academically more or less and the geography is good, but outside of that there's no need to make this move. If someone left sure, NJIT will be a great replacement once we finally get out of this conference, but until then I don't see the point.
Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: Checkmate on June 11, 2020, 03:13:46 pm
It’s a no brainer for NJIT. The AE has its warts but it’s better than going to Kennesaw State, Lipscomb, et al. If you’re going to be in a one-bid league, at least have it be local.


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Now somebody who claims to be the A-Sun commissioner says that Goodman's tweet is inaccurate. "More to come."

https://twitter.com/ASUNCommish
Title: Around the AE/country
Post by: Checkmate on June 11, 2020, 01:28:21 pm
It’s a no brainer for NJIT. The AE has its warts but it’s better than going to Kennesaw State, Lipscomb, et al. If you’re going to be in a one-bid league, at least have it be local.


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Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: OldSeawolf on June 11, 2020, 01:05:50 pm
Welcome NJIT!

https://twitter.com/goodmanhoops/status/1271114394865410048?s=21


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Good move for them (a lot less travel) and good for conference.  They were good a couple of years ago, and built themselves a nice stadium, if memory serves correct.  Extra 2 games; no bye weeks now, so easy to accommodate.  Of course, AE may be hedging their bets on future defections, by adding them.
Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: Hammertime on June 11, 2020, 12:54:04 pm
Welcome NJIT!

https://twitter.com/goodmanhoops/status/1271114394865410048?s=21


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Good, now maybe SB can finally get out of this bottom dweller conference.
Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: Checkmate on June 11, 2020, 12:25:08 pm
Welcome NJIT!

https://twitter.com/goodmanhoops/status/1271114394865410048?s=21


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Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: Hammertime on May 29, 2020, 09:49:17 am
Ochefu is following Almonacy and Long to SNHU. I’m fairly sure he’ll do well there.

https://twitter.com/antochefu/status/1266163258425331712?s=21


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I had very high hopes for Ochefu when Bolas recruited him. He has High Major genes in his DNA, but he never materialized. Was that on the coaches, would he have progressed better had he gone to Duke, Virginia, NC etc.... ?
Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: Checkmate on May 28, 2020, 08:25:06 pm
Ochefu is following Almonacy and Long to SNHU. I’m fairly sure he’ll do well there.

https://twitter.com/antochefu/status/1266163258425331712?s=21


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Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: OldSeawolf on May 25, 2020, 08:45:25 am
Good pluses and minuses!  Think we’re heading toward the minuses. It appears that the NCAA is moving towards removing the 1 year of sitting on transfer rule, as a compromise to the kids in lieu of them getting paid (for endorsements or other). If that happens AE SBU becomes a one and done school for its best players. An A-10 SBU prob becomes a two and done school for its best. In this scenario, if you think the transfer phenomenon of today is the Wild West, you ain’t seen nothing yet. SBU will become a launching pad for higher-end conferences akin to Duke being a launching pad for the NBA.
Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: Tml on May 25, 2020, 07:47:48 am
What the "new normal" means in regards to transfers is that you can no longer red shirt anyone.  You must bring in guys who are physically able to play right away and burn their freshman year up asap.  It won't eliminate regular transfer who has to sit a  year, but it will eliminate you school ever losing a grad transfer.

Unless dangling the option to transfer is part of the new game.

Let me just propose a What If?, and believe me I have no idea. But what if you have decided as a coach you're going to be the "transfer school" and you think that might be one edge you could have in getting better players.

Completely different situation, for sure, but as an example I know that your BIG basketball schools sit in living rooms and tell kids (and parents) that if you come to us and play for a year or two and you're ready for the NBA, we're going to groom you and help you get there. No need to feel bad and beg, that's what we're all about here and, in fact, we're going to tell you it's time to go.

What if SBU has decided they are going to tell kids (and parents), You come to SBU and give us a year or two, and if you can and want to transfer to a P5 or wherever and can even get a grad degree for free, we'll help you. That's what we're all about here.

Is getting a kid to stay honorably for 4 years and bleed red Wolf an old model? Going or gone the way of the bounce pass and mid-range bank shots? Maybe a revolving door of 1-2 year players is the new frontier and SBU is trying to be on the leading edge of that. SBU was pretty good the last couple of years, and Hartford looked poised to give UVM a run with their new lineup.

Listen, I'm just throwing nonsense at the wall, but why couldn't this scenario above be just as plausible as the other ideas here?

Great post.  I think the downside is twofold.  One, kids only play a year together, two tops.  But that seems to be happening anyway.  Two, it seems to make the recruiting job tougher because you need to secure a new flock of 4-8 players every year.  That may just be the way it is, unless they are required to sign a 4 year commitment letter, which few would do and it may be against the NCAA rules.
Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: VA_Seawolf on May 25, 2020, 12:44:00 am
What the "new normal" means in regards to transfers is that you can no longer red shirt anyone.  You must bring in guys who are physically able to play right away and burn their freshman year up asap.  It won't eliminate regular transfer who has to sit a  year, but it will eliminate you school ever losing a grad transfer.

Unless dangling the option to transfer is part of the new game.

Let me just propose a What If?, and believe me I have no idea. But what if you have decided as a coach you're going to be the "transfer school" and you think that might be one edge you could have in getting better players.

Completely different situation, for sure, but as an example I know that your BIG basketball schools sit in living rooms and tell kids (and parents) that if you come to us and play for a year or two and you're ready for the NBA, we're going to groom you and help you get there. No need to feel bad and beg, that's what we're all about here and, in fact, we're going to tell you it's time to go.

What if SBU has decided they are going to tell kids (and parents), You come to SBU and give us a year or two, and if you can and want to transfer to a P5 or wherever and can even get a grad degree for free, we'll help you. That's what we're all about here.

Is getting a kid to stay honorably for 4 years and bleed red Wolf an old model? Going or gone the way of the bounce pass and mid-range bank shots? Maybe a revolving door of 1-2 year players is the new frontier and SBU is trying to be on the leading edge of that. SBU was pretty good the last couple of years, and Hartford looked poised to give UVM a run with their new lineup.

Listen, I'm just throwing nonsense at the wall, but why couldn't this scenario above be just as plausible as the other ideas here?

That's very much a model that can work for us. Will it be a new one that a school has never tried before? IDK, but I don't see the problem. If it gets us winning titles then I'm cool with it. Every year you lose a portion of the team to graduation anyway, so this really wouldn't be all that different. Until we're in a stronger conference, we'll have to roll with this.
Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: Moveitfred on May 24, 2020, 06:43:12 pm
What the "new normal" means in regards to transfers is that you can no longer red shirt anyone.  You must bring in guys who are physically able to play right away and burn their freshman year up asap.  It won't eliminate regular transfer who has to sit a  year, but it will eliminate you school ever losing a grad transfer.

Unless dangling the option to transfer is part of the new game.

Let me just propose a What If?, and believe me I have no idea. But what if you have decided as a coach you're going to be the "transfer school" and you think that might be one edge you could have in getting better players.

Completely different situation, for sure, but as an example I know that your BIG basketball schools sit in living rooms and tell kids (and parents) that if you come to us and play for a year or two and you're ready for the NBA, we're going to groom you and help you get there. No need to feel bad and beg, that's what we're all about here and, in fact, we're going to tell you it's time to go.

What if SBU has decided they are going to tell kids (and parents), You come to SBU and give us a year or two, and if you can and want to transfer to a P5 or wherever and can even get a grad degree for free, we'll help you. That's what we're all about here.

Is getting a kid to stay honorably for 4 years and bleed red Wolf an old model? Going or gone the way of the bounce pass and mid-range bank shots? Maybe a revolving door of 1-2 year players is the new frontier and SBU is trying to be on the leading edge of that. SBU was pretty good the last couple of years, and Hartford looked poised to give UVM a run with their new lineup.

Listen, I'm just throwing nonsense at the wall, but why couldn't this scenario above be just as plausible as the other ideas here?
Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: OldSeawolf on May 24, 2020, 05:57:19 pm
What the "new normal" means in regards to transfers is that you can no longer red shirt anyone.  You must bring in guys who are physically able to play right away and burn their freshman year up asap.  It won't eliminate regular transfer who has to sit a  year, but it will eliminate you school ever losing a grad transfer.

Very good point, Salty.
Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: SaltySeawolf on May 24, 2020, 03:26:35 pm
What the "new normal" means in regards to transfers is that you can no longer red shirt anyone.  You must bring in guys who are physically able to play right away and burn their freshman year up asap.  It won't eliminate regular transfer who has to sit a  year, but it will eliminate you school ever losing a grad transfer.
Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: Tml on May 24, 2020, 08:03:51 am
Ceesay is off to Campbellsville of the NAIA.

https://twitter.com/HassanCeesay/status/1264359178988064775?s=20

Ceesay was SB Bench guy, not a starter. Why is he leaving .

He’s a Boals recruit who isn’t playing much?
Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: Hammertime on May 24, 2020, 06:39:28 am
Ceesay is off to Campbellsville of the NAIA.

https://twitter.com/HassanCeesay/status/1264359178988064775?s=20

Ceesay was SB Bench guy, not a starter. Why is he leaving .
Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: Checkmate on May 23, 2020, 09:10:49 pm
Ceesay is off to Campbellsville of the NAIA.

https://twitter.com/HassanCeesay/status/1264359178988064775?s=20
Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: VA_Seawolf on May 21, 2020, 12:58:12 pm
On one hand, I think it bodes well for our program that we wind up sending so many good players to P5 schools. It shows our player development is quite good by and large.

I'd much rather keep them here in the AE, but as I've mentioned until we're in an A10 level conference or better, that's just not going to happen. Can't blame a kid for wanting to play in the P5.  The gulf between them and the rest of D1 has just grown substantially.
Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: OldSeawolf on May 21, 2020, 12:22:51 pm
"Chuck" is headed to Cal.

https://twitter.com/Makale_0/status/1263499792296140800?s=20

Odd choice, given that some CA schools already have canceled Fall sports.

Now that our 3 "superstars" have all transferred out, and looking at where they've gone, I think Olaniyi probably has the best chance of success of the 3 at Miami given his athleticism.   I think Garcia will get minutes (and maybe even start at Georgia) since the team is very young, but IMO, he's going to get eaten alive in the SEC; not tall enough, not quick enough.  And Foreman will probably be a reserve; can't see him succeeding in the Pac12.
Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: Checkmate on May 21, 2020, 12:07:11 pm
"Chuck" is headed to Cal. Same profile school as some others – bottom half Power 5 program. I'm surprised he got this high truthfully. Definitely a shooter off the bench.

https://twitter.com/Makale_0/status/1263499792296140800?s=20
Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: Checkmate on May 20, 2020, 05:52:33 pm
Meanwhile, nearby Manhattan, which plays in a similar conference, is adding some ballers. Diallo and Nelson were 4-stars out of HS.

https://twitter.com/adamzagoria/status/1263224291421814789?s=21


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Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: Checkmate on May 20, 2020, 02:41:04 pm
Garcia to Georgia (announced in the other thread). They had EIGHT freshmen on the roster this past year and were just 5-13 in conference – 16-16 overall. They lost two of their top scorers to graduation, as well as Anthony Edwards, who ought to be a high pick in the draft. I have to think Garcia will get a good look down there a la Yeboah.

Let's see where Foreman ends up tomorrow. Imagine three power conference school players on our roster and we can't get by Hartford? In three attempts?
Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: SaltySeawolf on May 18, 2020, 03:32:42 pm
Foreman narrowed down his destinations; Cal, Iowa State and Santa Clara.

Santa Clara??? Really

It would be fitting if he chose Santa Clara and they bagged their season.
Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: guest369 on May 18, 2020, 02:02:57 pm
Foreman narrowed down his destinations; Cal, Iowa State and Santa Clara.

Santa Clara??? Really
Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: VA_Seawolf on May 17, 2020, 07:04:21 pm
Elijah in the ACC... this will be interesting. Let's see how he does. I know little about the Canes other than they're not exactly a basketball powerhouse, so he'll likely get decent minutes.
Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: OldSeawolf on May 17, 2020, 05:14:04 pm
Olaniyi to Miami. It’ll be fun to see how he stacks up in 2021-22.

https://twitter.com/adamfinkelstein/status/1262118573889204224?s=21


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Who??
Title: Around the AE/country
Post by: Checkmate on May 17, 2020, 04:32:24 pm
Olaniyi to Miami. It’ll be fun to see how he stacks up in 2021-22.

https://twitter.com/adamfinkelstein/status/1262118573889204224?s=21


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Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: Chairman of the Board on May 13, 2020, 03:56:47 pm
yep.
Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: VA_Seawolf on May 13, 2020, 03:35:12 pm
for whatever this is worth- wlax conference gets rid of their conference tournament (i think that still means there is an autobid), citing cost concerns: https://www.uslaxmagazine.com/college/women/mid-american-eliminating-conference-tournament-in-womens-lacrosse

wondering if others could follow, as a cost cutting measure. note this is 12 months ahead of time.

Makes sense. If you want to reduce exposure risk, you limit the number of games. IDK how it works in LAX, but conference tournaments are completely redundant in sports like Basketball. You proved who was better over the course of the regular season. Crown the regular season winner champ, send them to the NCAAT and be done with it. 
Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: Chairman of the Board on May 13, 2020, 02:37:15 pm
for whatever this is worth- wlax conference gets rid of their conference tournament (i think that still means there is an autobid), citing cost concerns: https://www.uslaxmagazine.com/college/women/mid-american-eliminating-conference-tournament-in-womens-lacrosse

wondering if others could follow, as a cost cutting measure. note this is 12 months ahead of time.
Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: VA_Seawolf on May 13, 2020, 02:23:00 pm
California State Schools have canceled sports for the upcoming Fall, 2020 season.  This means no football for Fresno State, San Diego State and San Jose State, in Mountain West Conference.   This is a huge decision.  Basketball still a question mark for these schools"

https://twitter.com/DrNicole1908/status/1260549744742596608?s=20

That's huge. Expect the cascading effects to start hitting elsewhere soon too with other schools shutting down sports for the fall.
Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: Hammertime on May 13, 2020, 12:19:08 pm
California State Schools have canceled sports for the upcoming Fall, 2020 season.  This means no football for Fresno State, San Diego State and San Jose State, in Mountain West Conference.   This is a huge decision.  Basketball still a question mark for these schools"

https://twitter.com/DrNicole1908/status/1260549744742596608?s=20

This is bad. New York, Chicago will follow suit. guaranteed..
Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: OldSeawolf on May 13, 2020, 11:47:46 am
California State Schools have canceled sports for the upcoming Fall, 2020 season.  This means no football for Fresno State, San Diego State and San Jose State, in Mountain West Conference.   This is a huge decision.  Basketball still a question mark for these schools"

https://twitter.com/DrNicole1908/status/1260549744742596608?s=20
Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: OldSeawolf on April 27, 2020, 10:59:27 pm
Good for him. I always thought he had a good attitude and never got the proper chance at SBU.  Sun Belt ranked 14th in nation by KenPom, so definitely a nice step up for him.
Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: Checkmate on April 27, 2020, 07:41:20 pm
Mike Almonacy finishing up his career at App State.

https://twitter.com/malmonacy2016/status/1254814203594096640?s=21

Looking at Ceesay's Twitter followership, his most recent follows include coaches from Point University, Washington Adventist University, Life University and Quincy University.

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Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: Checkmate on April 27, 2020, 07:39:45 pm
Literally a school we beat last year. I don’t get it. I see it as a downward movement, the AE’s more competitive than the WAC

That's actually incorrect I'm sad to say. The WAC has New Mexico State which is usually the league's best team, and several others bring the overall RPI of that league somewhere into the high teens. That's much better than the lower 20's the AE usually is in. The AE is often one of the bottom 5-10 conferences in the country, so this is actually an upgrade from a competition standpoint for Otchere.
I was stunned to see that the AE far outranked the WAC this season. But every other year it has us by a good margin.


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Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: VA_Seawolf on April 27, 2020, 07:25:47 pm
Literally a school we beat last year. I don’t get it. I see it as a downward movement, the AE’s more competitive than the WAC

That's actually incorrect I'm sad to say. The WAC has New Mexico State which is usually the league's best team, and several others bring the overall RPI of that league somewhere into the high teens. That's much better than the lower 20's the AE usually is in. The AE is often one of the bottom 5-10 conferences in the country, so this is actually an upgrade from a competition standpoint for Otchere.
Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: Checkmate on April 27, 2020, 10:34:22 am
It would make sense, if playing time was a main issue, that moving down would be your best (only) option.  He wasn't going to move to a Power 5 Conference school and get more playing time.  The only way he can prove he is a pro caliber player is by getting on the floor a lot more.

He's not getting a lot more time anywhere without addressing his foul issues. He could have easily gotten 28-30 minutes here but just couldn't get out of his own way. I wish him the best. He'll play somewhere professionally.
Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: SaltySeawolf on April 27, 2020, 10:09:31 am
It would make sense, if playing time was a main issue, that moving down would be your best (only) option.  He wasn't going to move to a Power 5 Conference school and get more playing time.  The only way he can prove he is a pro caliber player is by getting on the floor a lot more.
Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: guest369 on April 27, 2020, 12:34:28 am
Literally a school we beat last year. I don’t get it. I see it as a downward movement, the AE’s more competitive than the WAC
Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: OldSeawolf on April 26, 2020, 10:50:54 pm
Surprising destination for Otchere:

https://twitter.com/ethantsbu/status/1254546906178600962?s=21
Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: Seawolf97 on April 05, 2020, 04:11:07 pm
I think   we are going to see a very limited fall sports season and hopefully start up with basketball .  Football and the other sports are at risk .
Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: guest369 on April 05, 2020, 03:04:43 pm
Albany hosted their first ever playoff game. They had 1,500 people show up.
Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: Chairman of the Board on April 04, 2020, 03:16:49 pm
Maybe a public college Ivy League but striving for better athletics: Bingo, Army, Navy, SB, Albany, William & Mary?  Excellent academics and quality teams.

great idea, i love it.

again i think it comes down to $$$, which is asses in seats.  and we just dont bring that.  army/navy do, W&M perhaps, ualbAny sometimes. 

really if they fix student life that all changes.
Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: Hammertime on April 04, 2020, 02:16:22 pm
We better be rewarded for all the stuff that our school is doing to help fight COVID. Stadium expansion, more funding, whatever. If we do all of this during crisis time and still don’t get anything from it? Cuomo will be an all-time villain for me.

Stony brook Hospital and University is a state run institution. There is no reward for doing this. The only reward you are probably going to see is no games being played this year at LaValle Stadium. If they even have a college football season at all!!!!!
Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: guest369 on April 04, 2020, 12:25:13 pm
We better be rewarded for all the stuff that our school is doing to help fight COVID. Stadium expansion, more funding, whatever. If we do all of this during crisis time and still don’t get anything from it? Cuomo will be an all-time villain for me.
Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: Tml on April 04, 2020, 07:35:53 am
Maybe a public college Ivy League but striving for better athletics: Bingo, Army, Navy, SB, Albany, William & Mary?  Excellent academics and quality teams. 
Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: Hammertime on April 04, 2020, 04:25:09 am
Will see where athletics goes whenever college sports returns- there will be a LOT of financial problems to deal with across the country.

You're absolutely correct Wolfie!  While I live in my sports bubble to help distract me from this horrible virus, in all likelihood, it's going to take an awful lot to dig out from this financially.  Although the state budget was passed today, it is based on expected federal money and somewhat robust future bounce-back of the state economy.  This is all a big TBD at this point.  No money, and there will be cuts (possibly drastic).

I hate to be the barrier of bad news, as always it seems like, but we are sitting in a depression currently. When April unemployment numbers come out in a few weeks the numbers are going to be staggering.

Coumo budget is all based on forward projected numbers, with that said, Stony Brook isn't going anywhere. I am actually more concerned about their football program being solvent. Abandoning their football team is a real possibility in a year or two...
Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: Chairman of the Board on April 03, 2020, 06:48:44 pm
i like these ideas VA.

ill add- if forming a conference, i suppose it only really works if you have the goods- meaning you can draw in tv contracts.  which means the media companies want eyeballs on the screen- to bring in ad revenues.

and it's hard to have eyeballs on the screen with 2k fans in an arena on a typical game night.
Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: VA_Seawolf on April 03, 2020, 06:22:57 pm
I can’t see Vermont ever moving up because outside of basketball they don’t really offer anything. Whereas for us, yeah our basketball has been worse than them but we outclass them in literally every other sport. Plus, the Long Island population.

Exactly this. SBU is an AAU research university in a huge state and a huge market. Hell, having the Coronavirus pop-up hospital on campus will further highlight SBU's importance to the region. Vermont has none of that. That's why I wouldn't rule out being in the Big Ten or ACC 50 years down the road. Will I still care about college sports by then? Maybe not, but it's possible for SBU to get there. 

The A-10 and FBS independence should be our next goal. I know UConn and UMass have really sucked as indies but is that because of them being independents or were they just poorly run?

The more FBS independent schools there are, the more viable this is. Perhaps another conference could form. Us, Uconn, Umass. Liberty would want to be in a conference, JMU and Delaware want FBS, ODU would appreciate having a couple other VA schools in the conference. Temple may find themselves on an island if the AAC gets raided further, Buffalo might want to join.... it's not that far fetched that a regional FBS league could form.   
Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: Chairman of the Board on April 03, 2020, 05:16:39 pm
excellent points; can't help but to think how much its costs to mobilize a football team, trainers, coaches, SIDs, AD, etc.  add in hotels, per diems, meals, flights, coach buses, holy geez.  times by 6x per year. 

meaning- if you are in a conference where bus rides are viable- big savings.  very efficient.
Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: OldSeawolf on April 03, 2020, 05:00:48 pm
Will see where athletics goes whenever college sports returns- there will be a LOT of financial problems to deal with across the country.

You're absolutely correct Wolfie!  While I live in my sports bubble to help distract me from this horrible virus, in all likelihood, it's going to take an awful lot to dig out from this financially.  Although the state budget was passed today, it is based on expected federal money and somewhat robust future bounce-back of the state economy.  This is all a big TBD at this point.  No money, and there will be cuts (possibly drastic).
Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: guest369 on April 03, 2020, 04:56:52 pm
The A-10 and FBS independence should be our next goal. I know UConn and UMass have really sucked as indies but is that because of them being independents or were they just poorly run?
Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: Wolfie_MD on April 03, 2020, 04:55:31 pm
We have to eventually get out of the AE for basketball- it puts a ceiling on the basketball program. I think the A10 is a great aspiration. I mean we would all love Big 10 but that isn't going to happen.

Will see where athletics goes whenever college sports returns- there will be a LOT of financial problems to deal with across the country.
Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: OldSeawolf on April 03, 2020, 04:46:31 pm
I can’t see Vermont ever moving up because outside of basketball they don’t really offer anything. Whereas for us, yeah our basketball has been worse than them but we outclass them in literally every other sport. Plus, the Long Island population.

Basketball (and football) rule.
Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: guest369 on April 03, 2020, 04:19:31 pm
I can’t see Vermont ever moving up because outside of basketball they don’t really offer anything. Whereas for us, yeah our basketball has been worse than them but we outclass them in literally every other sport. Plus, the Long Island population.
Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: OldSeawolf on April 03, 2020, 03:58:44 pm
I agree. I think we need Vermont kind of success before we can consider a jump. And a jump to anything less than A10 is not worth the lateral (or travel) move, imo. Don't be surprised if Vermont's new arena is tied to their aspirations of moving up.  Here is Kenpom ranking of b-ball conferences for this past season, and my interpretation of realistic (and geographically practical) conference moves:

Ranking of conferences by AdjEM of team that's expected to go .500 in conference play
Conference                              Rating
1  Big Ten Conference             +17.49  Keep Dreaming
2  Big 12 Conference              +15.73     
3  Big East Conference           +15.49  Keep Dreaming     
4  Atlantic Coast Conf             +11.45     
5  Pac 12 Conference              +11.35     
6  Southeastern Conf             +10.98     
7  American Athletic Conf          +8.62       
8  West Coast Conference      +5.29       
9  Atlantic 10 Conference        +5.01   Target
10 Mountain West Conf          +4.99       
11 Missouri Valley Conf           +2.46       
12 Mid American Conf             +0.22       
13 Conference USA                 -0.12       
14 Sun Belt Conference          -0.14       
15 Southern Conference          -0.20       
16 Ivy League                         -0.95       
17 Big Sky Conference            -2.26
18 Colonial Athletic Assoc       -3.35   Lateral Move
19 Summit League                  -3.53
20 Big West Conference          -5.07
21 Metro Atlantic Athletic         -6.30  Lateral Move
22 Horizon League                  -6.46
23 Patriot League                    -6.55  Lateral Move
24 Western Athletic Conf        -6.64
25 America East Conference  -7.69  Are we stuck here?
26 Atlantic Sun Conference     -8.63
27 Northeast Conference        -8.63  Downgrade
28 Southland Conference        -9.41
29 Ohio Valley Conference       -9.67
30 Big South Conference         -10.82
31 Southwestern Athletic        -14.37
32 Mid-Eastern Athletic Conf   -15.47
Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: Hammertime on April 03, 2020, 03:52:15 pm
We need to get out of the America East. It’s not appropriate for us as an academic institution to be down at this level.

Bingo, hallelujah. I've been saying that for years, but who is going to invite SB into a bigger, better confrnce.

The A10 would be the next logical step (CAA is a lateral move IMO. Both are one bid conferences). I think if we can actually start dominating the AE the way Vermont has done, an A10 invite would come in short order. That's the easiest move to make as it wouldn't involve football. I think it could happen, but we've got to start winning. I think we spend more money on athletics, but get less out of it than any other school at the low major level. That's got to change.

Let me ask you this. Why is Vermont still in the AE for Basketball. They are a much better team all around and their new facility is underway. If Vermont has no chance of making the A-10, I don't see how SB or UA can..
Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: Chairman of the Board on April 03, 2020, 03:35:34 pm
i think that's right VA.  and i question, why do we somewhat do less with more?

i think it's because we generally get recruits that have no other option.

why?
Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: VA_Seawolf on April 03, 2020, 03:11:13 pm
We need to get out of the America East. It’s not appropriate for us as an academic institution to be down at this level.

Bingo, hallelujah. I've been saying that for years, but who is going to invite SB into a bigger, better confrnce.

The A10 would be the next logical step (CAA is a lateral move IMO. Both are one bid conferences). I think if we can actually start dominating the AE the way Vermont has done, an A10 invite would come in short order. That's the easiest move to make as it wouldn't involve football. I think it could happen, but we've got to start winning. I think we spend more money on athletics, but get less out of it than any other school at the low major level. That's got to change.
Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: Hammertime on April 03, 2020, 02:56:56 pm
it's hard to build excitement- even harder to sustain it.  the shine from the 2016 berth is all gone.  similarly, the momentum that football and mlax had 10 years ago- old news. 

now for sports like baseball and wlax, good on them to sustain success.  well, more so wlax than any other (seven straight titles now???).

Very frustrating seeing a team, University go backwards as time goes on.  How much more support do the administrations think theybare going to get from season ticket holders,  if they dont start winning . Fans want to see their team make it into the playoffs and go far. Cash donations for sports are going to dwindle down to nothing.
Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: Chairman of the Board on April 03, 2020, 02:50:17 pm
it's hard to build excitement- even harder to sustain it.  the shine from the 2016 berth is all gone.  similarly, the momentum that football and mlax had 10 years ago- old news. 

now for sports like baseball and wlax, good on them to sustain success.  well, more so wlax than any other (seven straight titles now???).
Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: guest369 on April 03, 2020, 02:33:19 pm
There’s a ceiling cap on attendance just because it’s the America East. I don’t think any sellout fan base can be built by playing Maine and New Hampshire.

I wasn’t around during the Warney era, but the attendance numbers looked pretty good then.
Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: Chairman of the Board on April 03, 2020, 02:27:10 pm
that's true- half empty stadiums at this size- we havent proven we can make the jump attendance-wise.
Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: Hammertime on April 03, 2020, 02:11:41 pm
We need to get out of the America East. It’s not appropriate for us as an academic institution to be down at this level.

Bingo, hallelujah. I've been saying that for years, but who is going to invite SB into a bigger, better confrnce.
Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: guest369 on April 03, 2020, 01:43:55 pm
We need to get out of the America East. It’s not appropriate for us as an academic institution to be down at this level.
Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: Chairman of the Board on April 03, 2020, 11:55:54 am
i just think we are going to lose at this game of free agency.  SB just doesnt have the infrastructure to draw students to the school, when we are up against virtually any other large state school nationally. 

academics aside, i noticed that two recent recruits on our radar were looking at kent state.  and that's my point- we aren't even talking B1G or ACC.  but that next tier down- even there, we lose out to those schools.  why?
Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: Hammertime on April 03, 2020, 11:02:54 am
Jeff Otchere looks to be in demand in some good programs.  Also, some rumblings that Boals at Ohio U may be interested:

https://twitter.com/JohnniesPride/status/1245104929137721346?s=20

Good for him. Stony Brook doesn't deserve a player him. Some people are saying he wasn't good. well, apparently a bunch of power 5 schools thinks differently.



I wish him luck as well.  He's a defensive force and solid rebounder.  He really needs to work on his hands and his footwork, if he's to become a more complete player, IMO.
Absolutely. But I think with the right coaching staff they will make him a better player on both sides of the ball
Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: OldSeawolf on April 03, 2020, 10:53:15 am
Jeff Otchere looks to be in demand in some good programs.  Also, some rumblings that Boals at Ohio U may be interested:

https://twitter.com/JohnniesPride/status/1245104929137721346?s=20

Good for him. Stony Brook doesn't deserve a player him. Some people are saying he wasn't good. well, apparently a bunch of power 5 schools thinks differently.

I wish him luck as well.  He's a defensive force and solid rebounder.  He really needs to work on his hands and his footwork, if he's to become a more complete player, IMO.
Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: Hammertime on April 03, 2020, 10:43:22 am
Jeff Otchere looks to be in demand in some good programs.  Also, some rumblings that Boals at Ohio U may be interested:

https://twitter.com/JohnniesPride/status/1245104929137721346?s=20

Good for him. Stony Brook doesn't deserve a player him. Some people are saying he wasn't good. well, apparently a bunch of power 5 schools thinks differently.
Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: OldSeawolf on April 03, 2020, 10:35:13 am
Jeff Otchere looks to be in demand in some good programs.  Also, some rumblings that Boals at Ohio U may be interested:

https://twitter.com/JohnniesPride/status/1245104929137721346?s=20

Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: Hammertime on April 01, 2020, 06:22:45 am
The rich get richer. Vermont lands Bernie Andre, an all-conference guy at Northern Arizona, and he's immediately eligible. And he can shoot it a bit (35% from three). Mazzulla, Murphy and now Andre to go alongside Smith, Davis and others.

I know the Big Sky isn't much, but it's good to see somebody start the year a little slow and really hit his stride in conference play.

Exactly. Year after year Baker finds transfers, recruits who are A10 caliber players, and they stay. Nobody transferring out of Vermont.

SB is falling back to the dark days.
Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: VA_Seawolf on March 31, 2020, 05:52:29 pm
Now instead of winning 7 games a season, they’ll win 3!

And we will still be at least one of those...


Sessoms at Penn State is huge. They were having a great year this year. Not sure who they get back next year, but whoever that is plus Sessoms? That'll be one strong team.
Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: Checkmate on March 31, 2020, 04:55:32 pm
The rich get richer. Vermont lands Bernie Andre, an all-conference guy at Northern Arizona, and he's immediately eligible. And he can shoot it a bit (35% from three). Mazzulla, Murphy and now Andre to go alongside Smith, Davis and others.

I know the Big Sky isn't much, but it's good to see somebody start the year a little slow and really hit his stride in conference play.
Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: GoSeawolves on March 31, 2020, 04:37:08 pm
Good for him, I thought he was great this year. Wonder how good he can be with a real surrounding cast
Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: guest369 on March 31, 2020, 01:01:29 am
Now instead of winning 7 games a season, they’ll win 3!
Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: Chairman of the Board on March 30, 2020, 09:28:19 pm
wow.  that's gotta hurt for bingo.  and the AE.
Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: OldSeawolf on March 30, 2020, 06:33:12 pm
Binghamton transfer Sam Sessoms has committed to Penn State, per his Twitter page. That’s some upgrade.
Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: Hammertime on March 29, 2020, 01:41:16 pm
Pikiell lands his best recruit ever - big man Cliff Omoruyi from just down the street. Ranked 36th nationally per Rivals. What a turnaround over there.

https://www.nj.com/rutgersbasketball/2020/03/big-cliff-omoruyi-commits-to-rutgers-in-biggest-recruiting-coup-in-more-than-a-decade.html

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That is awesome. I hope Rutgers wins the Big10 next season.
Title: Around the AE/country
Post by: Checkmate on March 29, 2020, 11:31:53 am
Pikiell lands his best recruit ever - big man Cliff Omoruyi from just down the street. Ranked 36th nationally per Rivals. What a turnaround over there.

https://www.nj.com/rutgersbasketball/2020/03/big-cliff-omoruyi-commits-to-rutgers-in-biggest-recruiting-coup-in-more-than-a-decade.html

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Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: Moveitfred on March 25, 2020, 03:53:09 pm
https://www.onthebanks.com/2020/3/24/21193010/rutgers-mens-basketball-coach-steve-pikiell-wins-the-jim-phelan-coach-of-the-year-award
Title: Re: Around the AE/country
Post by: Chairman of the Board on March 24, 2020, 04:38:04 pm
https://stonybrookathletics.com/news/2020/3/23/mens-basketball-elijah-olaniyi-selected-to-nabc-all-district-first-team.aspx