Seawolves Fans

Guys, lets take a step back.

There are plenty of state schools like New Hampshire, Maine, Massachusetts, North Dakota State, and so on that have been operating FCS programs for decades. And they will continue to do so. And that's completely acceptable.

This idea that a football program should be cut because we cannot compete at a Power-5 level is wrongful and even a corruption of what collegiate athletics was supposed to be in the first place.

I understand the fan base being pissed that we are having sub .500 seasons. We should be winning more games for sure. But expecting every program to be Power-5 or cut their program would greatly reduce opportunities for the thousands of student-athletes that don't go PRO when its all said and done.

The original mission of collegiate athletics wasn't to just been seen on TV by millions of fans across the country. Yeah, who doesn't want to be popular and in the AP Top25 every week. But that bar will remain unattainable for most college football programs. That doesn't mean that we need to cut them all and turn everything into a semi-pro model.

That's why I strongly believe that the NCAA should breakaway from the Power-5. The power-5 should go full pro. The non-power 5 should return to a model that more truly reflects the concept of the student-athlete.

Who ever said that SBU needs to compete with a power 5 school. SBU only has one FBS win. In its entirety, against lonely army.
Most on this board are talking about SBU just being competitive in the FCS. Win something and don’t get destroyed against subpar G5 school in the FBS!! Is that asking for much? I think not

Quote from: ry1nik on August 08, 2023, 03:22:47 pm

I would not mourn if football goes away. SB doesn’t have the DNA to be a major sports school. That ship has sailed. Much better to specialize and focus on developing basketball. A top 25 hoops program will generate much greater student and community interest…and cost a lot less.

Agree 100%

There's no need to kill the football program to focus on hoops though. Villanova for instance has a top shelf hoops program, but is extremely competitive in the FCS. I'd rather us adopt that model.

With our current leadership at best we drop football and wind up being being a school with crappy basketball and no football program 

Quote from: Hammertime on August 08, 2023, 05:57:25 pm

Quote from: ry1nik on August 08, 2023, 03:22:47 pm

I would not mourn if football goes away. SB doesn’t have the DNA to be a major sports school. That ship has sailed. Much better to specialize and focus on developing basketball. A top 25 hoops program will generate much greater student and community interest…and cost a lot less.

Agree 100%

There's no need to kill the football program to focus on hoops though. Villanova for instance has a top shelf hoops program, but is extremely competitive in the FCS. I'd rather us adopt that model.

With our current leadership at best we drop football and wind up being being a school with crappy basketball and no football program 

That's what I'm trying to say in a way. But I gave up.

looks like our fanbase here is all or nothing. I guess we are New Yorkers after all. Not exactly the most patient and forgiving populace.

We can thrive in the FCS with a good coach and good administration. In fact, we were thriving less than a decade ago. There is no reason why we can't get back to that level if our administrators work hard enough.

All we need is a few changes from top to bottom to get us back in the path of growth

Quote from: VA_Seawolf on August 09, 2023, 06:01:45 pm

Quote from: Hammertime on August 08, 2023, 05:57:25 pm

Quote from: ry1nik on August 08, 2023, 03:22:47 pm

I would not mourn if football goes away. SB doesn’t have the DNA to be a major sports school. That ship has sailed. Much better to specialize and focus on developing basketball. A top 25 hoops program will generate much greater student and community interest…and cost a lot less.

Agree 100%

There's no need to kill the football program to focus on hoops though. Villanova for instance has a top shelf hoops program, but is extremely competitive in the FCS. I'd rather us adopt that model.

With our current leadership at best we drop football and wind up being being a school with crappy basketball and no football program 

That's what I'm trying to say in a way. But I gave up.

looks like our fanbase here is all or nothing. I guess we are New Yorkers after all. Not exactly the most patient and forgiving populace.

We can thrive in the FCS with a good coach and good administration. In fact, we were thriving less than a decade ago. There is no reason why we can't get back to that level if our administrators work hard enough.

All we need is a few changes from top to bottom to get us back in the path of growth

"All or nothing"? How about winning something? Maybe even make the playoffs once in a while. Nobody is saying anything about SB winning the FCS Championship. That cant, wont ever happen. Just stop being a laughing stock of the FCS. It's an embarrassment for fans supporting them

You've got to be f**king kidding me. Who approved this sh*t?

Why the hell would you want to be in the same conference as BRYANT? Bryant is one of the schools we get to come to us for an easy win because they're several leagues below us! Now you want to accept them as "equals"? Just terrible and embarrassing.

The CAA seems to be morphing into an America East version of FCS football

The CAA is finished. First they make name change, that I find bizarre and wrong, and now they bring in a school like Bryant. Who’s next. Wagner???

Quote from: ry1nik on August 10, 2023, 01:52:14 pm

The CAA seems to be morphing into an America East version of FCS football

The CAA is finished. First they make name change, that I find bizarre and wrong, and now they bring in a school like Bryant. Who’s next. Wagner???

Look, I'm not happy with a lot about SBU....but I'm totally fine with this. I think it makes sense.

There was a clear need for one more northern member to make CAA football "whole" and make travel reasonable. Remember, URI was very close to dropping scholarship football and I'm sure programs like Maine and UNH (both solid football programs in the CAA) didn't like the idea of regular travel to Campbell. A round number like 16 is a very reasonable number to build divisions around. It ALSO means that every member gets 7-8 conference games against their regional opponents, making it less challenging to get an ALL D1 non-conference schedule in place, with an FBS game and 2 non-conference D1 opponents.

I'm not sure where the hate is around Bryant either. It's ranked academically ahead of Monmouth, Marist, St. Bonaventure, Siena, and several other regional brands, it has obviously put a TON of money into athletics, its endowment is a few million less than that of Providence, and it has recently had a good deal of success and notoriety.

Yankee:
Maine
New Hampshire
Bryant
Stony Brook
Albany
Rhode Island
Monmouth
Villanova

Dixie:
Campbell
Elon
Hampton
William & Mary
NC A&T
Richmond
Delaware
Towson

So long as you make sure that Delaware and Villanova play each other yearly, I think every member would be very satisfied with that type of travel arrangement.

Me personally: I'd rather see Bryant joint for all sports as well. A better addition with a greater athletic commitment in my opinion than U Albany. It would give a geographic partner to Northeastern, which has always been a bit of an outlier.