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« Reply #195 on: October 22, 2021, 02:23:23 pm »
https://twitter.com/mattbrownep/status/1451599474393063427?s=21

JMU is gone. CUSA is crumbling. No, they will not even look in the direction of SBU, as they shouldn’t. Very few CAA teams have any shot of moving out of the conference, and that would mostly be due to their basketball programs.

Why would JMU want CUSA over the Sunbelt? The Sunbelt is a rising conference in every sport/ I'm lost

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« Reply #196 on: October 22, 2021, 02:29:52 pm »
https://twitter.com/mattbrownep/status/1451599474393063427?s=21

JMU is gone. CUSA is crumbling. No, they will not even look in the direction of SBU, as they shouldn’t. Very few CAA teams have any shot of moving out of the conference, and that would mostly be due to their basketball programs.

Why would JMU want CUSA over the Sunbelt? The Sunbelt is a rising conference in every sport/ I'm lost

Apologies, should've clarified. JMU is heading to the Sun Belt with some CUSA teams. The CUSA is being picked off one by one and is being reduced to ashes. Despite that, the CUSA will not look at SBU as a possible candidate.

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« Reply #197 on: October 22, 2021, 02:35:07 pm »
There is no pain hurtful enough for Shawn Heilbron to suffer in. That man deserves the worst.

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« Reply #198 on: October 22, 2021, 04:25:05 pm »
Now MAC likely to further expand by taking MT and WK from CUSA. I hope we are staying as far away as possible from CUSA. It would be the worst decision that would kill the SB athletics.

If we moved everything from the AE and joined CUSA then I'd agree with the massive travel and instability it wouldn't be worth it.

If came down to the point where CUSA needed football only schools to round out the conference and UConn, Liberty, etc. didn't want to play ball then absolutely SBU should jump on that. Football only in CUSA while keeping everything else in the AE would be a damn good result for SBU Athletics.

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« Reply #199 on: October 23, 2021, 05:44:54 am »
Now MAC likely to further expand by taking MT and WK from CUSA. I hope we are staying as far away as possible from CUSA. It would be the worst decision that would kill the SB athletics.

If we moved everything from the AE and joined CUSA then I'd agree with the massive travel and instability it wouldn't be worth it.

If came down to the point where CUSA needed football only schools to round out the conference and UConn, Liberty, etc. didn't want to play ball then absolutely SBU should jump on that. Football only in CUSA while keeping everything else in the AE would be a damn good result for SBU Athletics.

If I were the AD and had the opportunity to join CUSA, I'd seriously consider taking it. There wont be another opportunity like this in our lifetime to move up in conference.
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« Reply #200 on: October 23, 2021, 08:52:48 pm »
Now MAC likely to further expand by taking MT and WK from CUSA. I hope we are staying as far away as possible from CUSA. It would be the worst decision that would kill the SB athletics.

If we moved everything from the AE and joined CUSA then I'd agree with the massive travel and instability it wouldn't be worth it.

If came down to the point where CUSA needed football only schools to round out the conference and UConn, Liberty, etc. didn't want to play ball then absolutely SBU should jump on that. Football only in CUSA while keeping everything else in the AE would be a damn good result for SBU Athletics.

As would I, which is why I sure hope Heilbron is working the phones with the CUSA commissioner to at least be on her radar. They need schools BADLY right now and even if it's football only I'm sure she'd take the call.

If I were the AD and had the opportunity to join CUSA, I'd seriously consider taking it. There wont be another opportunity like this in our lifetime to move up in conference.
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Re: Conference Realignment Rumors
« Reply #201 on: October 23, 2021, 09:09:50 pm »
Now MAC likely to further expand by taking MT and WK from CUSA. I hope we are staying as far away as possible from CUSA. It would be the worst decision that would kill the SB athletics.

If we moved everything from the AE and joined CUSA then I'd agree with the massive travel and instability it wouldn't be worth it.

If came down to the point where CUSA needed football only schools to round out the conference and UConn, Liberty, etc. didn't want to play ball then absolutely SBU should jump on that. Football only in CUSA while keeping everything else in the AE would be a damn good result for SBU Athletics.

As would I, which is why I sure hope Heilbron is working the phones with the CUSA commissioner to at least be on her radar. They need schools BADLY right now and even if it's football only I'm sure she'd take the call.

If I were the AD and had the opportunity to join CUSA, I'd seriously consider taking it. There wont be another opportunity like this in our lifetime to move up in conference.


I want no part of the CUSA. For me the CUSA is like the Big South of the 2000s at this point. I prefer playing flagship state state universities from the northeast (CAA) than playing middle-of-nowhere second rate schools from the south...



You guys are sounding desperate and a bit crazy at this point.

I don't see any benefit of being at the FBS level right now in one of those crappy leagues... especially with how things are shifting so quickly. The whole model may implode in a few years anyway. What we need to do is invest in our program, find a better coach, win more games and aggressively market the teams in hopes of tapping on more fans. 


I think someday I envision that when its all said and done we can have a northeast-midAtlantic non Power-5 football conference consisting of...

Temple
Buffalo
Connecticut
Stony Brook
Massachusetts
Albany
Delaware
and who knows maybe Army?!?!

in the same conference. I would be happy with an alignment like that. Just wish there could be football-only conferences
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Re: Conference Realignment Rumors
« Reply #202 on: October 31, 2021, 08:18:01 am »
This realignment may create an opportunity for us to get into A10. Big East is looking to expand by one more team, which most likely will come from A10: SLU or Dayton or VCU. Another opening could be because UMASS may move to MAC or stupidly to CUSA. Either way, A10 will not stay at odd number 13. Unless both those happen, then they will likely stay at 12. Let’s hope only one team leaves A10.

A10 will likely add from the east. We need to audition ourselves. Stony Brook must make it to the NCAA tournament this year. Also beating GMU in our first game will help. GMU is predicted to be middle of the A10 table this season. If we can have an outstanding season, may be we will stand out from other candidates like CofC, Northeastern, etc.

Lastly we need to reach out to A10 ADs and presidents and build relationships so when an opportunity arises, they pull for us instead of for other candidates. Let’s make friends with Rhody, Fordham, GMU, GW etc. Need to play the athletics politics.
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« Reply #203 on: November 10, 2021, 05:11:25 pm »
Looks like MAC staying on 12. WKU and MTSU staying in CUSA. MTSU doesn’t want to move to MAC, and MAC probably won’t take WKU alone.

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Re: Conference Realignment Rumors
« Reply #204 on: November 10, 2021, 05:17:51 pm »
is that good or bad for opportunists?  id think bad right?
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« Reply #205 on: November 10, 2021, 05:55:34 pm »
I think that’s good? Lol not sure. But it keeps the eastward expansion idea open. I have been reading a lot of realignment stuff last couple of weeks. My hope for A10 is perhaps wishful thinking. Even if A10 loses members, they are unlikely to add anyone. It’s already become a 2 bid league. Not the old 4/5 bids A10 anymore. And Stony Brook won’t help with at-large bid.

So I have been thinking that then perhaps after A10, MAC is the best idea. I will never advocate CUSA- flying to El Paso, Las Cruces, Miami, Louisiana, Mississippi makes no sense. It would be a big mistake, that would drag the AD down financially to bankruptcy. We don’t have sugar-daddy like Coastal Carolina.

Perhaps Stony Brook with UMASS or Delaware, can give MAC an eastern presence in a population heavy region. MAC will be 14 members with SBU and UMASS/UD. They can continue East/west divisions. MAC basketball is not as good as A10, but is not as bad as Sunbelt either. Besides perhaps Buffalo and Stony Brook will start something like rivalry? Lol.
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« Reply #206 on: November 10, 2021, 07:38:19 pm »
Here is a link to conference realignment talks... crazy, entertaining, popcorn stuff lol

https://csnbbs.com/forum-637.html

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« Reply #207 on: November 10, 2021, 10:14:45 pm »
Now MAC likely to further expand by taking MT and WK from CUSA. I hope we are staying as far away as possible from CUSA. It would be the worst decision that would kill the SB athletics.

If we moved everything from the AE and joined CUSA then I'd agree with the massive travel and instability it wouldn't be worth it.

If came down to the point where CUSA needed football only schools to round out the conference and UConn, Liberty, etc. didn't want to play ball then absolutely SBU should jump on that. Football only in CUSA while keeping everything else in the AE would be a damn good result for SBU Athletics.

If I were the AD and had the opportunity to join CUSA, I'd seriously consider taking it. There wont be another opportunity like this in our lifetime to move up in conference.

SB cant afford to be in the CUSA. They probably cant afford to be in the CAA with all sports. If SH is extended you will see SB sports continue to be what it is today and not get any much better.

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« Reply #208 on: November 10, 2021, 10:16:14 pm »
UMASS will never leave the A10 for the MAC, so the MAC will stay put for now and for the foreseeable future. CUSA should stabilize at 9, and without ESPN bankrolling any additions will probably add one more school and then stop.

Here is a link to conference realignment talks... crazy, entertaining, popcorn stuff lol

https://csnbbs.com/forum-637.html

I've lurked that forum for a good five six years now. Always hilarious. Especially that one guy who lists every NCAA school as an FBS candidate   ;D
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« Reply #209 on: November 10, 2021, 11:29:27 pm »
I don’t see why Heilbron would get extended. He’s done nothing right. What justification would the powers that be have for keeping him? His tenure has been a disastrous failure.