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Re: Conference Realignment Rumors
« Reply #150 on: August 25, 2021, 10:00:11 am »
Quote from: Chairman of the Board on August 25, 2021, 09:38:39 am
another piece of the puzzle: https://bigten.org/news/2021/8/24/general-acc-big-ten-and-pac-12-announce-historic-alliance.aspx

short version- my hot take is that this will even further push out the other/smaller conferences to do something, and to do it quickly.  because the line between the haves and the havenots just got brighter.  thoughts?

Like what??? Merge the CAA with the BigSouth, Ohio Valley, etc..??? There is essentially no reason for that to happen because the big TV money is not interested in these smaller conferences.

What I do see happening is. less FBS teams playing FCS school because these Power5 teams can now all play each other, and not reach out to FCS school for scheduling..That is a negative for schools that reliy on that money, like SBU and many other struggling schools.
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« Reply #151 on: August 25, 2021, 10:55:42 am »
no, but my point was more that the smaller conferences are in an even bigger bind, and must act, so that may cause some displacement, while some try to move up and get their piece.
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Re: Conference Realignment Rumors
« Reply #152 on: September 10, 2021, 11:58:17 am »
The Big 12 is officially expanding with Cincinnati, Houston, BYU, and UCF.

Big 12 Extends Membership Invitations
The Big 12 Conference Board of Directors this morning voted to extend membership invitations to Brigham Young University, the University of Central Florida, the University of Cincinnati, and the Un...
big12sports.com


This means other G5 leagues like the AAC and Sun Belt will be making some moves, which means CUSA will make some moves as well, which in all likelihood will open the door for a few FCS moveups. I fully expect JMU to be FBS and out of the CAA by 2025. Their president is a goddamn idiot if they're still in the CAA at that point.

Can SBU move up from this? Highly unlikely unless a conference takes a gamble on our market and academics (which seem to matter less now). We would have had a real chance had all of this happened five years ago, but now with our current leadership I don't see us going anywhere. McGinniss doesn't seem to be much of a sports person despite coming from Texas, and the athletic leadership has clearly proven themselves to be inept. In any case, keep an eye on the situation and hope this opens a spot for SBU to improve their conference affiliation somewhere. 
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« Reply #153 on: September 10, 2021, 04:13:30 pm »
Quote from: VA_Seawolf on September 10, 2021, 11:58:17 am
The Big 12 is officially expanding with Cincinnati, Houston, BYU, and UCF.

https://big12sports.com/news/2021/9/10/conference-big-12-extends-membership-invitations.aspx

This means other G5 leagues like the AAC and Sun Belt will be making some moves, which means CUSA will make some moves as well, which in all likelihood will open the door for a few FCS moveups. I fully expect JMU to be FBS and out of the CAA by 2025. Their president is a goddamn idiot if they're still in the CAA at that point.

Can SBU move up from this? Highly unlikely unless a conference takes a gamble on our market and academics (which seem to matter less now). We would have had a real chance had all of this happened five years ago, but now with our current leadership I don't see us going anywhere. McGinniss doesn't seem to be much of a sports person despite coming from Texas, and the athletic leadership has clearly proven themselves to be inept. In any case, keep an eye on the situation and hope this opens a spot for SBU to improve their conference affiliation somewhere.

I'm sorry, but with all due respect. Do you really think SBU should move up ahead of Delaware, UNH, Maine, Rhode Island, UA etc??? Hell no. SBU university deserves to stay at the bottom of the cellar, dungen. where they belong. Boot Coach P. and SH, then we talk..
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« Reply #154 on: September 10, 2021, 04:35:43 pm »
Quote from: Hammertime on September 10, 2021, 04:13:30 pm
Quote from: VA_Seawolf on September 10, 2021, 11:58:17 am
The Big 12 is officially expanding with Cincinnati, Houston, BYU, and UCF.

https://big12sports.com/news/2021/9/10/conference-big-12-extends-membership-invitations.aspx

This means other G5 leagues like the AAC and Sun Belt will be making some moves, which means CUSA will make some moves as well, which in all likelihood will open the door for a few FCS moveups. I fully expect JMU to be FBS and out of the CAA by 2025. Their president is a goddamn idiot if they're still in the CAA at that point.

Can SBU move up from this? Highly unlikely unless a conference takes a gamble on our market and academics (which seem to matter less now). We would have had a real chance had all of this happened five years ago, but now with our current leadership I don't see us going anywhere. McGinniss doesn't seem to be much of a sports person despite coming from Texas, and the athletic leadership has clearly proven themselves to be inept. In any case, keep an eye on the situation and hope this opens a spot for SBU to improve their conference affiliation somewhere.

I'm sorry, but with all due respect. Do you really think SBU should move up ahead of Delaware, UNH, Maine, Rhode Island, UA etc??? Hell no. SBU university deserves to stay at the bottom of the cellar, dungen. where they belong. Boot Coach P. and SH, then we talk..

We're definitely better than Albany, New Hampshire, Maine, Rhode Island, etc. solely based on media market. Delaware has had the on-field success to justify it but I'm surprised they didn't move up after the Flacco era.
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« Reply #155 on: September 10, 2021, 06:07:40 pm »
or even before the flacco era.  they won a title if i remember, maybe 20 years ago?

if im a conference looking for members, im looking at academics, endowment, seating, attendance, fan support, location, etc.  SB simply doesnt have the atmosphere to support a loyal fanbase (or the reverse?) and i think this turns away buyers.  you get that with other CAA schools.  my opinion. 
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« Reply #156 on: September 10, 2021, 08:28:16 pm »
Quote from: Accelerator on September 10, 2021, 04:35:43 pm
Quote from: Hammertime on September 10, 2021, 04:13:30 pm
Quote from: VA_Seawolf on September 10, 2021, 11:58:17 am
The Big 12 is officially expanding with Cincinnati, Houston, BYU, and UCF.

https://big12sports.com/news/2021/9/10/conference-big-12-extends-membership-invitations.aspx

This means other G5 leagues like the AAC and Sun Belt will be making some moves, which means CUSA will make some moves as well, which in all likelihood will open the door for a few FCS moveups. I fully expect JMU to be FBS and out of the CAA by 2025. Their president is a goddamn idiot if they're still in the CAA at that point.

Can SBU move up from this? Highly unlikely unless a conference takes a gamble on our market and academics (which seem to matter less now). We would have had a real chance had all of this happened five years ago, but now with our current leadership I don't see us going anywhere. McGinniss doesn't seem to be much of a sports person despite coming from Texas, and the athletic leadership has clearly proven themselves to be inept. In any case, keep an eye on the situation and hope this opens a spot for SBU to improve their conference affiliation somewhere.

I'm sorry, but with all due respect. Do you really think SBU should move up ahead of Delaware, UNH, Maine, Rhode Island, UA etc??? Hell no. SBU university deserves to stay at the bottom of the cellar, dungen. where they belong. Boot Coach P. and SH, then we talk..

We're definitely better than Albany, New Hampshire, Maine, Rhode Island, etc. solely based on media market. Delaware has had the on-field success to justify it but I'm surprised they didn't move up after the Flacco era.

Rhode Island Basketball catapults them ahead of all CAA teams aside from JMU and Delaware when other conferences come looking. They're already in the A10, constantly field good Basketball teams and they have the money to upgrade facilities.
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« Reply #157 on: October 18, 2021, 11:50:42 pm »
Our Athletic Department seems too inept right now to do anything about this, but it is expected that The American will expand with six schools from Conference USA

Sources: The AAC is close to massive 6-school expansion to reshape conference
The league will be examining expansion and is expecting applications from six schools this week – Florida Atlantic, Charlotte, North Texas, UTSA, Rice and UAB – sources told Yahoo Sports.
Yahoo Sports · sports.yahoo.com


On the heels of this expansion, it would be expected that the Sun Belt would also pursue the additions of Marshall and Southern Miss, as well as potentially James Madison and Old Dominion. In any case CUSA could lose between eight and 10 of its schools. In such a scenario the conference would certainly look to backfill with schools and that would almost certainly open up a spot for SBU if we were wiling to make the upgrade to FBS and join the league.

Personally, playing basketball with the likes of FIU, Middle Tennessee, and UTEP among God knows who else doesn't appeal to me very much. HOWEVER, should a that conference get desperate enough and seek football only additions, I think it would be wise to look at making the move if it ever came to that. Granted all of this is extremely unlikely as I doubt the CUSA leftovers would have the need/desire to bring us on, nor would SH have it in him to make such a bold move, but the option is on the table.

In any case, JMU is certainly out of the CAA after all is said and done here. Does that destabilize the CAA to allow the AE to pick off a couple schools for the All-sports conference? Remains to be seen. Hartford dropping down to D3 will open up at least one spot in the league.
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« Reply #158 on: October 19, 2021, 01:58:24 am »
things are getting interesting. a lot shuffling in the mid and low-tier leagues coming soon.

After this wave of realignment... there is no way the American will have any hope of Power6 talks. Those are some really bad programs its adding to its membership. I'm glad UConn got out when it did and landed in the Big East/FB Indie.
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Re: Conference Realignment Rumors
« Reply #159 on: October 19, 2021, 05:19:27 am »
Let's see if SH and company have what it takes to get SB out of the America East, and into a more prominent conference for sports. As far as our football team. They should stay exactly where they are. In the CAA. I don't see any FBS conference looking to reach out to SH about going FBS anyways. There is hope for Lax and some other AE teams to move up.

I hope SH doesn't $uck this once-in-a-lifetime conference realignment. But he will!!!
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« Reply #160 on: October 19, 2021, 12:05:35 pm »
Quote from: Hammertime on October 19, 2021, 05:19:27 am
Let's see if SH and company have what it takes to get SB out of the America East, and into a more prominent conference for sports. As far as our football team. They should stay exactly where they are. In the CAA. I don't see any FBS conference looking to reach out to SH about going FBS anyways. There is hope for Lax and some other AE teams to move up.

I hope SH doesn't $uck this once-in-a-lifetime conference realignment. But he will!!!

I think it's more likely the AE poached from the leftovers in the CAA after JMU leaves. You could go to 11 with Delaware and Towson for instance. The league would also likely want a presence in Boston and go after Northeastern if they'd make the move.

Hoftstra can go pound sand and move to the MAAC or go D3 for all I care. I don't really see this allowing SBU to move up on the basketball side though. Even if the A10 loses St. Louis to the Big East they still have 13 teams and I don't see a large enough A10 raid anywhere that would open the door for SBU moving over. The AE while not great is pretty stable right now as it's all pretty well regarded public schools that are geographically sound. On paper this conference should be better than it is, but we've got the dregs who bring it down athletically.
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« Reply #161 on: October 19, 2021, 12:17:16 pm »
Given the tepid economic climate, the toll that Covid inflicted on NCAA sports, and the silence/indifference from McGinnis on the future of SBU Sports, I can't see Stony Brook going anywhere in the next 3-5 years.   As a matter of fact, I can see them struggling to maintain the collective footprint that they have with all of their collegiate sports programs.

It costs a lot of money to move to another conference.  The re-branding effort alone costs big $.   Hence, we're not going anywhere in the near-term, in my opinion.

And if we move in the future, it's probably not worth the expenditure unless we moved up the chain considerably, like to the A-10.  Just my opinion, of course.
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« Reply #162 on: October 19, 2021, 12:45:31 pm »
I don’t see us moving anywhere unfortunately. Personally would love to move to A10, but they probably would like to shrink rather than expand. And even if they do add anyone, we won’t be top of the candidates.

Looking at the current realignment, AAC just got a lot worse. They could have just added two instead of six. UTEP location is crazy outlier in CUSA. CUSA still has better leftover institutions than Sunbelt though imo.

It seems currently Stony Brook is happy with the status quo... I see no ambition in the coaching hiring and renewing pattern. If that’s the case AE is the best place. CAA is a sinking ship.
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« Reply #163 on: October 19, 2021, 01:26:41 pm »
i think you guys have it right.  if you read any of the recent budget reports / state of the U, money is tight.  and SB has never really, deeply cared about athletics enough to make this jump during this time.

but, the conversation is fun, so have at it!
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« Reply #164 on: October 19, 2021, 02:58:06 pm »
There is nothing to be happy with at the status quo right now. Nothing at all. FCS football and one NCAA Tournament appearance ever. That's disgusting.

There's no reason to be proud of the America East either. Maine, New Hampshire, UMass Lowell, Albany, Hartford and UMBC are not good academic schools to be lumped in with. I want to believe in the new president, but her silence is deafening. I really don't want to call for her ouster just a year into her tenure, but time is running out for me to root for her before we need to focus getting rid of her too. I will say, though, that the search committee to find the new president had no prominent athletic members on it, which concerns me a ton. They put the Binghamton president on the search committee for Stony Brook's president instead of an athletic representative. That disgusts me, and I want to know how the F that was even approved in the first place!

Again, there are ZERO reasons to be content with the way things are right now. Zero. Anyone who is happy needs to be shown the door ASAP, because they are clearly unintelligent and unfit for their job.
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