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Re: SB Lacrosse 2019 Season
« Reply #420 on: May 23, 2019, 10:25:02 pm »
Sports Information office needs to add info to the freshmen's bio's. Nothing has been posted since they arrived

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« Reply #421 on: May 23, 2019, 10:57:03 pm »
What makes everyone think Cassese would be interested. Lehigh just brought in the #8 freshmen class and is in a better conference when you look at it top to bottom. The academic profile of the school is also a much easier sell for lacrosse players (great business and engineering school). Their recruiting pool is also much more diverse then SBU’s. Lehigh can recruit off Long Island, Philadelphia, Jersey, New England and Maryland. End of the day they recruit nationally compared to SBU. We need someone to recruit Long Island, Upstate and Canada at an extremely high level. The program today is also in a very different place then when Nagel took the job. He took the job after a NCAA quarterfinal appearance and multiple trips to the America East championship. In the last 8 years we have been to 2 America East Championship games, the last one being in 2016. We need to find someone who is going to be an animal in recruiting and has the ability to develop talent over the course of their careers on campus. That’s how we get this program back to where we all want it to be.

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Re: SB Lacrosse 2019 Season
« Reply #422 on: May 24, 2019, 07:21:30 am »
Any word on transfers, kids getting poached?   New recruits??
Great questions to ask!  I would hope that the men will stay and try to win the AE.  This is a good team and with a new coach and system let's see what happens!

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« Reply #423 on: May 24, 2019, 07:40:50 am »
Laxfactory, I do not think Cassese is leaving Lehigh, I said in the mold of Kevin Cassese. In my humble opinion I think the team needs a younger , more progressive Head Coach who can relate better to his players. I think a current OC at a blue blood program. Short of that we need an established coach, younger, IN THE MOLD OF CASSESE. age , demeanor etc.

This current team is ready for next step. Regular season champs two years in a row including outright champs this year. Team returns much of the team minus two starters and the entire offense. Next coach needs to be able to make our current players better and teach them how to win playoff games


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« Reply #424 on: May 24, 2019, 08:13:24 am »
The whole Blue Blood assistant coach idea is interesting. When you look at those blue blood programs (ACC/Big10) what assistants would you put on the list? If you look at a school that hired a “blue blood” assistant last season let’s look at Colgate. They brought in an assistant from Notre Dame as the head coach. You look at their season, start of great with a huge win versus Syracuse. They go on to finish the season after that win 3-9. I just feel that if we can get an established assistant or head coach, that has been through the ringer a bit more the team that has been close will take an immediate jump. Any assistant that comes in as a first time head coach goes through growing pains. They think they have a great idea and it is not. A more seasoned head coach has had to make in season on the fly cultural and schematic adjustments and if we feel we can win now that may be best for the program.

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« Reply #425 on: May 24, 2019, 09:14:38 am »
The whole Blue Blood assistant coach idea is interesting. When you look at those blue blood programs (ACC/Big10) what assistants would you put on the list? If you look at a school that hired a “blue blood” assistant last season let’s look at Colgate. They brought in an assistant from Notre Dame as the head coach. You look at their season, start of great with a huge win versus Syracuse. They go on to finish the season after that win 3-9. I just feel that if we can get an established assistant or head coach, that has been through the ringer a bit more the team that has been close will take an immediate jump. Any assistant that comes in as a first time head coach goes through growing pains. They think they have a great idea and it is not. A more seasoned head coach has had to make in season on the fly cultural and schematic adjustments and if we feel we can win now that may be best for the program.


I think we are missing a very key point, just because we won the regular season AE championship does not mean we can win in 2020. The best shot the team had to make the tournament was  2019 this year. Justan Pugal and Ryland Rees cannot not be replaced. With no proven long poles left on this roster, the D takes a major hit. No new coach can undo the weak recruiting that has been done over the last 3 years. The AE conference (although weak) had parity across the board except for Binghamton and Hartford. We start 2020 as the 3rd or 4th best team in the conference. A new coach whether a young unproven OC or a seasoned Head coach will not change that. This hire is for the future of Stonybrook Mens lacrosse.

I do not see players leaving because of this coaching change. I think the are thrilled but lets be honest, a 1st year coach is a lame duck when it comes to the current talent pool.

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« Reply #426 on: May 24, 2019, 09:21:15 am »
I'm not so pessimistic on next year and I understand loss of two starting defenders. I also appreciate the thought of a seasoned coach, maybe someone from D2 or D3 fits the bill.  I guess the key is, the AD needs to find the right guy.


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« Reply #427 on: May 24, 2019, 12:49:30 pm »
I'm not so pessimistic on next year and I understand loss of two starting defenders. I also appreciate the thought of a seasoned coach, maybe someone from D2 or D3 fits the bill.  I guess the key is, the AD needs to find the right guy.

Not just two starting defenders but the best defender on the team in Pugal and a ground ball machine in Rees. They will be impossible to replace. UMBC is for real, Vermont and Albany can beat us on any given day. Lowell gets better every year. Will any 2020 recruits be impact players as Freshman? Big question mark?

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Re: SB Lacrosse 2019 Season
« Reply #428 on: May 27, 2019, 03:49:28 pm »
for whatever it's worth- former head coach lars tiffany just won his first national title with UVa.
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« Reply #429 on: May 27, 2019, 09:08:30 pm »
Just glad UVA beat Yale.

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« Reply #430 on: May 28, 2019, 09:40:04 pm »
I'm not so pessimistic on next year and I understand loss of two starting defenders. I also appreciate the thought of a seasoned coach, maybe someone from D2 or D3 fits the bill.  I guess the key is, the AD needs to find the right guy.

Not just two starting defenders but the best defender on the team in Pugal and a ground ball machine in Rees. They will be impossible to replace. UMBC is for real, Vermont and Albany can beat us on any given day. Lowell gets better every year. Will any 2020 recruits be impact players as Freshman? Big question mark?

Pugal and Rees are great players who had great careers but unfortunately every player ultimately graduates and somebody new get's a chance. Whoever takes their place needs to make plays and others need to help pick up the slack. Losing 2 of 10 starters is a low percentage compared to most teams.

The entire offense is back minus Daly and Wayne White is coming back , I looked at the blog and it seems to show alot of defensemen coming in next year.

Looking forward to the new coach making all the units better.

Games were great this weekend, my biggest takeaway was that Virginia players were going after ground balls like they were the last ones they would ever chase. Loved the intensity

If the new SB coach can harness that kind of energy, I see great things.




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Re: SB Lacrosse 2019 Season
« Reply #431 on: May 29, 2019, 09:25:21 am »
I'm not so pessimistic on next year and I understand loss of two starting defenders. I also appreciate the thought of a seasoned coach, maybe someone from D2 or D3 fits the bill.  I guess the key is, the AD needs to find the right guy.

Not just two starting defenders but the best defender on the team in Pugal and a ground ball machine in Rees. They will be impossible to replace. UMBC is for real, Vermont and Albany can beat us on any given day. Lowell gets better every year. Will any 2020 recruits be impact players as Freshman? Big question mark?

Pugal and Rees are great players who had great careers but unfortunately every player ultimately graduates and somebody new get's a chance. Whoever takes their place needs to make plays and others need to help pick up the slack. Losing 2 of 10 starters is a low percentage compared to most teams.

The entire offense is back minus Daly and Wayne White is coming back , I looked at the blog and it seems to show alot of defensemen coming in next year.

Looking forward to the new coach making all the units better.

Games were great this weekend, my biggest takeaway was that Virginia players were going after ground balls like they were the last ones they would ever chase. Loved the intensity

If the new SB coach can harness that kind of energy, I see great things.

They also return all the ssdm's. Pugal and Rees were great, but the team should get better next year with so much of the team coming back. First we have to get a new coach and that coach has to keep the current players in the program. Whoever gets the job should be walking into top 20 team talent wise in my humble opinion

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« Reply #432 on: May 29, 2019, 02:57:35 pm »
I'm not so pessimistic on next year and I understand loss of two starting defenders. I also appreciate the thought of a seasoned coach, maybe someone from D2 or D3 fits the bill.  I guess the key is, the AD needs to find the right guy.

Not just two starting defenders but the best defender on the team in Pugal and a ground ball machine in Rees. They will be impossible to replace. UMBC is for real, Vermont and Albany can beat us on any given day. Lowell gets better every year. Will any 2020 recruits be impact players as Freshman? Big question mark?


Pugal and Rees are great players who had great careers but unfortunately every player ultimately graduates and somebody new get's a chance. Whoever takes their place needs to make plays and others need to help pick up the slack. Losing 2 of 10 starters is a low percentage compared to most teams.

The entire offense is back minus Daly and Wayne White is coming back , I looked at the blog and it seems to show alot of defensemen coming in next year.

Looking forward to the new coach making all the units better.

Games were great this weekend, my biggest takeaway was that Virginia players were going after ground balls like they were the last ones they would ever chase. Loved the intensity

If the new SB coach can harness that kind of energy, I see great things.

They also return all the ssdm's. Pugal and Rees were great, but the team should get better next year with so much of the team coming back. First we have to get a new coach and that coach has to keep the current players in the program. Whoever gets the job should be walking into top 20 team talent wise in my humble opinion


What is the latest from the rumor mill on new SBU Men's Lacrosse coach?
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Re: SB Lacrosse 2019 Season
« Reply #433 on: May 30, 2019, 05:16:36 pm »
Have not heard anything, season is over and Memorial Day has passed.  Let's start the interviews

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« Reply #434 on: May 30, 2019, 10:22:34 pm »
From Shawn's blog:

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Our men's lacrosse coaching search is going extremely well. The number of exceptional coaches who are interested in our job has exceeded my expectations. We're going to land an excellent coach so please remain patient. I'm definitely feeling urgency to get this done, but will exercise diligence to get it right. Great times are ahead!

I know his job is to hype this up but this has me excited.