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Re: SB Lacrosse 2019 Season
« Reply #255 on: April 11, 2019, 06:06:35 pm »
Chairman, we are very up and down. I do not really have a good feel for the team, the offense the last two games has been so heavy with a few guys trying to take 1 on 1 shots. That works fine at the end of the possession but as a base offense? We out shot Princeton by 16 shots and were plus 9 on ground balls. The reason we got smoked? The quality of a large volume of our shots were miserable, shooting 20 seconds into the offense after you have been on defense for 4 minutes is not smart. Most coaches consider that a turnover. I might be wrong but I got the sense our coaches were happy with that because that player kept firing low percentage shots. Princeton with 10 assists to our 2, can you spell ugly offense. I know there were other issues as well , Bollinger had a pedestrian game for him (but point blank shots do not help), defensive lapses, turnovers ( all things that happen in a game) But if you do not score you do not win. Hoping for a big push in these final regular season games, I have seen glimpses of all the talent and hard work but is is time it all comes together. Preseason ranked #2 in AE, we can still make it happen, this conference is really wide open

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Re: SB Lacrosse 2019 Season
« Reply #256 on: April 11, 2019, 06:23:37 pm »
agreed on all points
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Re: SB Lacrosse 2019 Season
« Reply #257 on: April 12, 2019, 01:50:18 am »
As I understand it (source removed), Gibson has them running a one-trick-pony offense. When the stars don't align just so, the kids resort to 1v1 dodges from the wings or from behind. No real finesse that I can identify. The only time we really move the ball is on EMO. An 'Eastwood' style attackman who finds holes and moves off-ball would probably help us to some degree. Perhaps it's a down year for the AE conference as a whole, but the fundamental errors (catching, throwing, groundballs) make it hard to believe this is Division I lacrosse. Hopefully they can pull a rabbit out of a hat these next few games, and not rely on the recurring magician that is Bollinger..

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« Reply #258 on: April 12, 2019, 09:16:56 am »
From talking with current players, there are kids that can ball and Nagle refuses to play them.  FO (#11) that smokes starters at practice and some middies and attack (#77 #41 and #48) that can create offense.  With White out for the season, the team does lose some offensive output and leadership, however,  Nagle can add a few more pieces to make this a solid team.  As teams study and learn the SBU offense they see that it is pretty easy to shut down the 1 on 1 dodge.  The Princeton game was a clear example of a defense that understood this and rotated off ball well to shut down skip passes. Nagle has to get over the mindset of playing kids he likes and create a team that can compete consistently.  Hopefully, the next three games will good ones!   

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Re: SB Lacrosse 2019 Season
« Reply #259 on: April 12, 2019, 10:07:19 am »
This offense has no where near the amount of talent it once had: Rooney, Rodgers, Eastwood, Schultz, Hughes, Tundo, etc.... let alone Crowley, Mcbride, Compitello.  Yes, the coaches need to adjust the scheme to the players they have now but the talent being recruited to SB is not what it once was.  If you watch the games it is pretty obvious to see they don't have a guy who can take over a game or consistently put stress on a defense.

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Re: SB Lacrosse 2019 Season
« Reply #260 on: April 12, 2019, 01:34:31 pm »
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I get that this team does not have an elite player like Rooney, Crowley or Rogers who all have 200 career points but there is plenty of talent on this team. Many players who were All Americans, All State, All Long Island, starters on state championship teams that were annual elite programs. I hate comparing specific players and stats over the years, its also when you are comparing the current team to players whose Bio and stats are complete but I will throw out a few.

Haun already has 104 points, 68 goals and is on pace to be in the top 10 in points all time for SB. He has more goals than Hughes and on pace to have more than Schultz.
Compitello has 68 career goals and had 50% of his points in his monster jr.year, Many of the names you said had 1 year where they got 35-40% of their career totals in a big Jr. or Sr. year.  Compitello had 25 assists his red shirt sophomore year and 35 his All American Jr. year.
Pickel and Vanginhoven have 40 and 41 goals on pace to have more than Compitello (68), Hughes(66)
Walsh had the 3rd most assists all time for a freshman (25) to Rogers and Crowley's 26. Crowley had 26 assists 3 times. Schultz never had more than 24. He is on pace to crack the top 5 all time for SB

While I do not see a player on the roster who will make Stony Brook's Mount Rushmore, there is talent


There are so many players who make a team but you can see by just picking two attackmen and two midfielders they compare historically. Defensively I could list so many players. Bollingeer, Rees, Matz,Cassidy, Pugal,  It's tough to see this team like the glory quarterfinal losing team right now but they can start by winning an AE tournament championship. They got a regular season championship last year, they have to keep building.
I would like to see 3 things:
* open up the offense and stop poor quality shots
* play smart and have fun
* Coaches do not need to complain about every call

Our Championship run starts now. I truly believe this team and staff can do it. Go Wolves


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Re: SB Lacrosse 2019 Season
« Reply #261 on: April 12, 2019, 10:31:48 pm »
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« Reply #262 on: April 12, 2019, 10:37:55 pm »
Put up or shut up time, team seems to play better on road. Season comes down to this, one ground ball at a time. 14 to 11 SB

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Re: SB Lacrosse 2019 Season
« Reply #263 on: April 13, 2019, 09:25:27 pm »
needed this win.  as it somewhat seals up a post-season berth. 

maryland BC put up a fight against UA, vermont wins.  UML can score fast and chips away at leads.  we are perfect against them but wont be for long.

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Re: SB Lacrosse 2019 Season
« Reply #264 on: April 15, 2019, 12:58:08 pm »
SBLAX808

I get that this team does not have an elite player like Rooney, Crowley or Rogers who all have 200 career points but there is plenty of talent on this team. Many players who were All Americans, All State, All Long Island, starters on state championship teams that were annual elite programs. I hate comparing specific players and stats over the years, its also when you are comparing the current team to players whose Bio and stats are complete but I will throw out a few.

Haun already has 104 points, 68 goals and is on pace to be in the top 10 in points all time for SB. He has more goals than Hughes and on pace to have more than Schultz.
Compitello has 68 career goals and had 50% of his points in his monster jr.year, Many of the names you said had 1 year where they got 35-40% of their career totals in a big Jr. or Sr. year.  Compitello had 25 assists his red shirt sophomore year and 35 his All American Jr. year.
Pickel and Vanginhoven have 40 and 41 goals on pace to have more than Compitello (68), Hughes(66)
Walsh had the 3rd most assists all time for a freshman (25) to Rogers and Crowley's 26. Crowley had 26 assists 3 times. Schultz never had more than 24. He is on pace to crack the top 5 all time for SB

While I do not see a player on the roster who will make Stony Brook's Mount Rushmore, there is talent


There are so many players who make a team but you can see by just picking two attackmen and two midfielders they compare historically. Defensively I could list so many players. Bollingeer, Rees, Matz,Cassidy, Pugal,  It's tough to see this team like the glory quarterfinal losing team right now but they can start by winning an AE tournament championship. They got a regular season championship last year, they have to keep building.
I would like to see 3 things:
* open up the offense and stop poor quality shots
* play smart and have fun
* Coaches do not need to complain about every call

Our Championship run starts now. I truly believe this team and staff can do it. Go Wolves

Analyze this however you like. Players come and go. Nagel and crew stay the same. Nagel’s best team was 2016, one-&-done in the AE tourney. We’re 3 seasons removed from 2016. Has Nagel shown you anything to believe he’s going to take us back to that level and beyond? I say no and it’s time for a change.

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Re: SB Lacrosse 2019 Season
« Reply #265 on: April 15, 2019, 01:53:44 pm »
Yup, if the AD extends Nagle anything more than a year at a time it would be incompetent....and another year only if Nagle pulls a rabbit out of a hat and somehow wins a game in the NCAA tournament.

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Re: SB Lacrosse 2019 Season
« Reply #266 on: April 15, 2019, 05:15:09 pm »
https://stonybrookathletics.com/news/2019/4/15/mens-lacrosse-haun-named-america-east-offensive-player-of-the-week.aspx

also, with 2 games to go, here's what some key stats look like:

shot % .269 (eh)
SOG % .603 (not great especially considering the past few seasons)
turnovers 15/game (solid, given new rules)
faceoffs .468 (mediocre but consider the improvement)
clearing .876 (ok; new rules considered)
assists 57% (not great considering past years)


haun and rees likely on track for the first team, i hope bollinger too (likely 2nd/3rd at this point).  grippe and pickel might get second, i think pugal should be on there, maybe walsh.  harrell for rookie team. 

if we finish strong, maybe enneguess gets into the mix.  then maybe dugan, pedone, harrison, etc.  these are just early guesses of course.  still some time left.
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Re: SB Lacrosse 2019 Season
« Reply #267 on: April 16, 2019, 09:48:53 pm »
Very solid road win. Vermont is next, two more road wins and we are the #1 seed in our house.

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Re: SB Lacrosse 2019 Season
« Reply #268 on: April 16, 2019, 09:51:33 pm »
Bummed about the mob. No love for my 14 to 11 prediction. +3 wolves versus the actual final of 15-12. Haun's questionable crease penalty increased the over.

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Re: SB Lacrosse 2019 Season
« Reply #269 on: April 18, 2019, 12:02:06 pm »
https://www.insidelacrosse.com/article/pll-draft-position-primer/54303

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Ryland Rees, Stony Brook
What happens when the best player on your team is an LSM? I don’t know you should probably ask Stony Brook, because they’re living through that very scenario right now with Ryland Rees. With international experience for Team Canada, Rees may be the best-equipped player in this draft in terms of dealing with the current crop of professional players in the PLL. Rees has the size, the power and the ballhandling ability to make an impact on a PLL team that could use a little less brawn and a little more brain from their stable of poles.
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