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Re: New Coach and Lots of New Faces...
« Reply #30 on: March 24, 2012, 03:52:22 pm »
They were up  9-8 with 24 seconds left and lost the ball in a turnover got scored on . Then lost in double OT 10-9.

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Re: New Coach and Lots of New Faces...
« Reply #31 on: March 24, 2012, 06:18:30 pm »
TERRIBLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! my god. this is horrible. what a disappointment.
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Re: New Coach and Lots of New Faces...
« Reply #32 on: March 24, 2012, 08:07:56 pm »
Eh, it's certainly not what I had hoped for, but remember that this team lost a ton a graduation last year including arguably the best midfielder, finisher, and faceoff man in the country. Also, there not getting blown out. They've been in everygame they've played. If they were winning 60+% of the faceoffs, which is what we as fans have become accustomed to after the last four years with Rand, this team would probably be 6-2 right now.

I still wouldn't be surprised if they figure it out during conference play and salvage the season, and I certainly havent given up hope on Nagle. In fact I'll say I'm impressed with how well they've played outside of the faceoff X.

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Re: New Coach and Lots of New Faces...
« Reply #33 on: March 25, 2012, 07:27:36 am »
Not sure I'm prepared to let Nagle off easy just because the Wolves lost a lot of talent. Top programs lose a lot of talent on a regular basis to graduation, but they don't drop from having been a Top Ten team one year to 1-7 the next. Top Ten teams usually stay ranked from year to year, or at least don't win only 1 game out of 8. Kenneally was in goal for less time than Brady, yet gave up more than twice the number of goals. My lacrosse mind may be limited, but why isn't Brady playing the whole game? Sounds like poor coaching to me.

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Re: New Coach and Lots of New Faces...
« Reply #34 on: March 25, 2012, 10:39:18 am »
I think you may be overstating the prominence of our men's program. I think they've only made NCAA's twice maybe three times. They didn't get there last year with all that talent. I think we should strive to be consistently a top 20 team. We're not there now, but this was always going to be a big rebuilding year.

I'm not sure what's going on in goal in at the moment, but looking at the stats neither Keneally or Brady are killing it. I think Nagle wanted to give Keneally, a fifth year senior, some playing time before conference play, but it also makes sense for Nagle to look his options considering the teams save percentage is below 500 right now.

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Re: New Coach and Lots of New Faces...
« Reply #35 on: March 25, 2012, 04:52:36 pm »
From my observations, I have seen some poor individual efforts by some team members that cost SBU the games.  Look at the turnover rate per player. Also, look at the shot and score records. This is a mediocre team that is getting excellent coaching. Also, what kind of recruiting is producing these players from past years?
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Re: New Coach and Lots of New Faces...
« Reply #36 on: March 25, 2012, 07:15:30 pm »
No doubt it's been a tough year but there is talent on this team.  What did they lose, 4 one goal games...with the exception of UVA they played everyone tight and they did have an early 2 goal lead on the Hoos.  Face-offs are killing them.   You can't expect to win close games when you are losing almost 70% of your draws. 

Here's to making a run in the AE and winning some of these close games. 

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Re: New Coach and Lots of New Faces...
« Reply #37 on: March 25, 2012, 08:35:49 pm »
Vermont comes to town this weekend . Can we go 1-0 in conference play to cheer things up?

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Re: New Coach and Lots of New Faces...
« Reply #38 on: March 25, 2012, 11:30:53 pm »
Anyone know what's going on with Campbell and Belton? I think it's important that we have them both on the field for conference play.

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Re: New Coach and Lots of New Faces...
« Reply #39 on: March 26, 2012, 08:34:49 am »
My disappointment comes from the fact that this is pretty much our best program and my expectation of the program were to be competitive in the national landscape yearly after such a great run to the NCAA in 2010. Its not the one-goal loses that are killing me, I could take a few of those, but seven at this point? that is not good, and you can't justify that with the loss of a talented class. I expected a better season at this point (something like 5-3). We wont be taken seriously until we can consistently put good teams out there.

But I'm hopeful about the conference season. There still many games to be played and these guys can turn it around and win the conference. The only thing that would save this season in my opinion is getting back to the AE championship game...
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Re: New Coach and Lots of New Faces...
« Reply #40 on: March 26, 2012, 11:15:29 am »
My disappointment comes from the fact that this is pretty much our best program and my expectation of the program were to be competitive in the national landscape yearly after such a great run to the NCAA in 2010. Its not the one-goal loses that are killing me, I could take a few of those, but seven at this point? that is not good, and you can't justify that with the loss of a talented class. I expected a better season at this point (something like 5-3). We wont be taken seriously until we can consistently put good teams out there.

But I'm hopeful about the conference season. There still many games to be played and these guys can turn it around and win the conference. The only thing that would save this season in my opinion is getting back to the AE championship game...

You're not looking at this properly. This is NOT a coaching issue. Nagle is doing fine, considering this isn't a roster he knows well and most of the talent he brought in is a redshirt or coming this Fall. This is a faceoff issue. In lacrosse, teams overperform and underperform based upon their faceoff statistics. We rallied to take UVA to overtime not because of some magical call by Sowell, but because Rand won 3 straight faceoffs at the end of the game, took the ball up the field himself, then got it to an Attackman who fired.

Look at our stats now - we couldn't win a faceoff if the other team forgot to put their guy on the field! All that given, we're playing very well for a team that gets the ball <50% of the time. I always give a new coach a year. We got a TOP faceoff guy coming in next year. I'll take a poor showing in this one if only to show how important the big three were to us.

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Re: New Coach and Lots of New Faces...
« Reply #41 on: March 26, 2012, 12:35:31 pm »
Stop with the we.  You're not part of the team.  They lost three all-time lacrosse greats.  It's going to take some time.  Stop with the "this season is a disappointment".  The non-conference season is meaningless.  There's a reason why there's an automatic bid to the NCAA Tournament.  Just a bunch of bandwagon fans

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Re: New Coach and Lots of New Faces...
« Reply #42 on: March 26, 2012, 12:58:31 pm »
LOL.... is this guy serious? ^^^

if the out of conference season is meaningless then why schedule them?

and no comments about the bandwagon fans... :)

also. anyone can use "we" to refer to the team. It is common for fans to use "we"... So suggesting to us not to use "we" won't do much...

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Re: New Coach and Lots of New Faces...
« Reply #43 on: March 26, 2012, 03:52:52 pm »
first of all, it's non-conference, not out of conference.  Why schedule them? because you'd have a five-game season.  That's why.  Look at a team like Villanova.  Look at a team like Navy.  Struggled through non-conference play but is 3-1 in the Patriot League.  You think Coach Sowell was worried about losing to North Carolina and Jacksonville.  It meant nothing.  It's conference time and Stony Brook is primed for success.

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Re: New Coach and Lots of New Faces...
« Reply #44 on: March 26, 2012, 06:26:18 pm »
THe whole conference is down with only 9 wins between the six teams. We've played everyone tough. Hopefully we can get Campbell and Belton back, figure out the faceoff to some extent, and make a run at NCAA's. I certainly don't think any of that is out of the question.