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Re: New Coach and Lots of New Faces...
« Reply #45 on: March 26, 2012, 08:27:13 pm »
Oh captain... lol
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Re: New Coach and Lots of New Faces...
« Reply #46 on: March 27, 2012, 08:48:48 am »
Non-conference games are important and should matter to all fans. Yes, it's good winning the conference and going to the NCAA's, but if a team messes up in its non-conference games, they get a bottom seed in the tournament and it's "one and done." Because SBU has had such an underperforming athletic program for a major university for so long (not assigning blame, just making an observation), we've made "conference championship" as the measure of ultimate success. I'm looking forward to the day when winning the conference AND getting past the first round— whether it's in basketball, football (where it actually may happen this year), baseball, or lacrosse— is the prize...and not just winning a championship in a bottom-dwelling conference. To do that, you have to win non-conference games to get anything but a bottom seed.

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Re: New Coach and Lots of New Faces...
« Reply #47 on: March 27, 2012, 10:48:42 am »
Amen to that !

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Re: New Coach and Lots of New Faces...
« Reply #48 on: March 27, 2012, 11:07:57 am »
Ok everyone back from the ledge.  Here's my (unsolicited) thoughts-

-its no mystery why the team is struggling; new faces, new coaches, large departures
-record isnt as bad as it looks.  teams like Fairfield are really solid this year.  plus, one goal losses, OT, goals waived off, etc.
-ball can only bounce away from you so many times.  theyll get some bounces.  perfect, as its conference time.
-flags are way down, plagued this team early on
-though Nagle plays a bit of a slower offense, turnovers are way down (10-12 total a game).  when you cant win a faceoff, this may be considered a "must run" offense
-clearing is as good as it gets, over 90% i estimate.  this will help with TOP also
-goalie situation isnt great, but theyve all played fine for the most part, which is a good sign
-theyre not yet good at playing with a lead- theyve blown a lead in every loss this year.  the hallmark of a young/new team
-campbell/belton/greene are hurt.  these are not just starters, but seniors and team leaders
-the new team leaders or "veterans" are a hodgepodge of transfers, guys from the Sowell era, new faces, etc.  This will get better

Hang in there guys- have faith in Nagle & Co, they will improve and it will all just be fine.  Dont be the impatient "i want blood" type.  Be patient.  Winning takes time.  This is when the real fans come out.

As i keep saying- if you accept this premise- that they can easily win 2+ conference games- and this premise- that they can plausibly win two AE tourney games- then youll find this team having gone farther than the star studded 2011 team.  And wouldnt that be interesting.
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Re: New Coach and Lots of New Faces...
« Reply #49 on: March 31, 2012, 02:45:25 pm »
Finally,  a wonderful win by our boys.   Note the game play changes... good coaching.   Great plays by our players.

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Re: New Coach and Lots of New Faces...
« Reply #50 on: March 31, 2012, 02:51:01 pm »
Stony Brook beats Vermont 13-5 today. One noticeable change: First game in which the team is over .500 in faceoff percentage. Thats good

We are now 2-7! Lets go Seawolves. Hopefully they can turn their season around and finish strong in the conference where it really matters.

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Re: New Coach and Lots of New Faces...
« Reply #51 on: March 31, 2012, 03:58:48 pm »
@ Ry1nik. I agree with your comments made a few days ago. Non-conference games are indeed important and as SBU fans we should expect them to compete well outside of their conference but...

Your comments regarding SBU under-performing as a "...major University for so long..." are arguable. Lets look at the history of Stony Brook University and its easy to understand why our athletics programs are lagging far behind our academics. I used to think the same way as you but lately I have changed my stance. Lets keep in mind that Stony Brook broke into the National University rankings only a few years ago, and that it transitioned into a renowned national research university from the mid 1990s onward, before that it was just another state university out there.

I don't think its fair to expect the athletic department to have grown at such a fast pace as the University has grown in the academic end, specially when SBU didn't emphasize undergraduate education and UG student life until Kenny came in (from what I've read and researched). Its unrealistic to expect SBU to have an athletic department today on the level of peer institution likes Penn State, Rutgers, Florida, Uconn, UMass just to name a few. Some of these institutions have been offering Division I athletics for longer than SBUs existence so its going to take time to [if we ever] catch up.

With that said, I still want the programs to keep growing. I want the wins to keep coming and I always have high expectations of the athletics department since the day I became a student at the University and I want those non-conference wins every day

Sorry for going off-topic... 
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Re: New Coach and Lots of New Faces...
« Reply #52 on: March 31, 2012, 06:09:21 pm »
eCasado, I'm not disagreeing with you. If you read my post again, you'll see "I'm not assigning blame..." The fact still remains that SB fans have been starved for sports success; regardless of the circumstances.

Back to the lacrosse— Andreassi was 2 for 8 on faceoffs, the rest of the team was 8 for 11. Why does Nagle give him so many minutes when he's not getting the job done?

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Re: New Coach and Lots of New Faces...
« Reply #53 on: April 01, 2012, 10:48:39 am »
Nice win. I didnt see the game but I imagine having campbell back in the lineup is a big help.

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Re: New Coach and Lots of New Faces...
« Reply #54 on: April 02, 2012, 11:28:21 am »
So im hoping this was the game where the team found its chemistry, and how perfect was the timing, we will find out in the next few weeks.  After trying 3 different goalies, at least 7-8 at the faceoff, switching many guys between A/M (Adams, Belton, Watson, Tundo, Andreassi), giving a shorty to 3 LSMs, and even making a change at starting defense.

The picture is becoming clearer.  If i had to guess- youll see Rooney/Bellando/Watson at attack; Tundo/Campbell/Bonanno at midfield, mixed in with Andreassi and Belton (inj) and maybe Dahms.  LeVerne/Millican at SSDM, maybe Cerasi mixed in, with Laforet at pole.  Gibson/Moeller/Judge at defense, Keneally in goal.

The good news is that this team has multiple threats, and so i think teams will default to giving Campbell the pole.  He clearly never seems to mind!  8)
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Re: New Coach and Lots of New Faces...
« Reply #55 on: April 02, 2012, 12:46:40 pm »
it'll be interesting to see how other teams deal with that midfield line of Tundo, Campbell, and Bonanno. They all have good size, build, and athleticism and I imagine are match up problems against a short stick.

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Re: New Coach and Lots of New Faces...
« Reply #56 on: April 02, 2012, 04:26:16 pm »
Just signed on so I have to piggie back a few topics.First off you cannot be content with just winning the conf.Since we lost to Virginia in the playoffs we have gone backwards.It's one thing to arrive,and it's another thing to stay.As a fan base and University you just can't be happy to be there.Any time you can get national exposure you need to take advantage of it.Making the playoffs last year would have been huge.Recruits want to play on NCAA playoff teams not AE playoff teams.I realize that the coaching change has something to do with the poor start but you have to do better.Recruits are fickel now and change their minds,you have to keep them interested by winning.Also the school has to start setting up it's own weekend classic games with 4 to six teams,the L.I. fans would show up.The goal should be to keep the best L.I. talent home and your not going to get that by hoping you win the AE.I have been around this school for 25 yrs as a student a football player and fan as I attend all Lacosse and Football home games,and it just seems that every step foward results in two steps back.If we could have North Carolina play here in 1991 on the old crappy field then we should be able to do better now.Hate to sound salty but real hungry for a consistant winner.To answer the Andreassi question he was a big steal from Umass for Nagel,one of his first recruits so he is gonna play him for the future.The kid can play he has been asked to do alot of different things(fo,middie,attack) does not look like face off is his best spot but that is not what they brought him here to do.Take a page from football they are on the right track.