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NCAA First Round- SB @ Johns Hopkins
« on: May 07, 2012, 08:11:58 am »
Sunday 5/13 3pm ET

SB takes on the #2 seeded Johns Hopkins Bluejays at the Mecca of lacrosse, Homewood Field in Baltimore, MD.

If you read a selection of some of the Hopkins chatter, for which there is much, some have already penciled in a victory and await the winner of Lehigh/Maryland.

Fortunately for SB, three things: I think Greeley is hurt; SB is playing at its peak of 2012; and Hopkins was seeded arguably higher than it should so SB isnt playing a true #2. 

GO SB
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Re: NCAA First Round- SB @ Johns Hopkins
« Reply #1 on: May 07, 2012, 08:48:23 am »
This team has proved that they can play with anyone. A few
Weeks ago they were very close to beating a Yale team that just cruised to an IVY league title. Hopkins was exposed in the Navy game!!

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Re: NCAA First Round- SB @ Johns Hopkins
« Reply #2 on: May 07, 2012, 08:51:22 am »
I think our team will match up well. With the improvement and confidence of this SBU squad I'm sure it will be a great game to watch.
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Re: NCAA First Round- SB @ Johns Hopkins
« Reply #3 on: May 07, 2012, 08:56:36 am »
Hopefully if the Blue Jays are looking past us  we can shock them a little.

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Re: NCAA First Round- SB @ Johns Hopkins
« Reply #4 on: May 07, 2012, 09:18:54 am »
Anyone know how many #15 or 16 seeds have beaten the #2 or 1 seeds in tournament history? I expect there would be a better chance in lacrosse than in hoops.

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Re: NCAA First Round- SB @ Johns Hopkins
« Reply #5 on: May 07, 2012, 09:27:53 am »
My concern about Hopkins is they are very good at the faceoff. It seems like Laforet has made big strides in the last couple games. If we can keep possessions about even, we'll be in the game. I think Hopkins only has 1 real facilitator on their attack in Palmer, and with Moeller (who Kevin Crowley said the other day was the best takeaway defender he's ever played against) on Palmer, Hopkins will need to generate their offense from midfield. So I'm thinking keep their mids outside and give Brady a chance to make the stop. It'll be interesting to see how Hopkins plays Tundo, Campbell, Bonanno.

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Re: NCAA First Round- SB @ Johns Hopkins
« Reply #6 on: May 07, 2012, 09:28:23 am »
Well its weird- in lacrosse at least.  The 16 team format has only been around for 9 seasons (used to be 12, with top 4 getting a bye).  Now that there's 16, there are no seeds below 8.  Therefore, 8 could play anywhere from 9-14, and 1 could play anywhere from 9-14.  They do try however, to make it so that the higher seed plays the "weaker" team. 

But they have all kinds of considerations to take into account- for example, travel costs, who already played, distance, where fans will travel to, where the neutral sites are for the QF, etc.  Just to name a few.
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Re: NCAA First Round- SB @ Johns Hopkins
« Reply #7 on: May 07, 2012, 09:33:13 am »
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It'll be interesting to see how Hopkins plays Tundo, Campbell, Bonanno.

It will be.  All three like to dodge- a lot.  Id have to think a team like JHU, which hasnt really seen SB play, will look at the stats and the previous years and just pole Campbell.  Otherwise, they will then see that Tundo has been moved to middie and is now an initiator.  UA caught on to this (benefit of playing SB the week before) and double poled the mids, by keeping a short on Belton.  Hence, we saw a lot of dodging and inverts from Bonanno.
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Re: NCAA First Round- SB @ Johns Hopkins
« Reply #8 on: May 07, 2012, 10:14:13 am »
Is lafforet physical enough to guard ranagan? Any shot Judge moves up to lpm to play ranagan?

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Re: NCAA First Round- SB @ Johns Hopkins
« Reply #9 on: May 07, 2012, 11:00:40 am »
Good question and i havent thought about that.  I was more worried with containing Palmer, he's the primary feeder and also a finisher.  I would have to guess Moeller marks him up.  JHU has big, physical middies and that will mismatch LeVerne, Millican, etc.  But not outclassed by talent- size alone.

Assuming Ranagan pushes the ball from up top, slides will have to come early, and from what ive seen, SB hasnt been doing this lately against AE opponents, but rather protects the crease.  This has worked well because Brady has saved nearly EVERYTHING from up top (and not screened).  He is really seeing the ball well.  With that said, JHU has much better shooters from up top; however, still rather take that shot than the crease feed.

Historically (JHU fans correct me if im wrong) the Jays dont play much depth, im thinking top 14 guys will command the lion's share of PT.  Wonder if we can use that to our advantage, OR, since we are potentially outmatched at faceoff, do we not want a shootout.
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Re: NCAA First Round- SB @ Johns Hopkins
« Reply #10 on: May 07, 2012, 12:53:05 pm »
Greeley tore his ACL.  I know I sound like a homer but Ranagan is overated. Unfortunatley Hopkins is on every week so I had to watch them, the goalie Bassett is legit and so is defenseman Durkin.  Watch out for mid Guida (small but fast w/big shot) attckman Benn (canadian plays similiar to McBride, great finisher) and mid Boland in and out w/injuries but usually plays big in big games.I have seen Ranagan disapear in some games, shoots low 20%. They are beatable but coach Petramala has a way of working the refs with his constant complaining. Need big effort, anything can happen.

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Re: NCAA First Round- SB @ Johns Hopkins
« Reply #11 on: May 07, 2012, 01:26:12 pm »
I do think Durkin is the real deal and will be on Rooney.  Ive seen Guida play a few times and he has done well, though he isnt the team's go to guy.  Boland is very talented but yes i think he was hurt on and off. 

Beatable?  Some of the Hopkins crowd is already discussing who might win Lehigh/Maryland.
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Re: NCAA First Round- SB @ Johns Hopkins
« Reply #12 on: May 07, 2012, 08:11:22 pm »
I'm so sick of hearing about Ranagan from all of these ESPN announcers...How he won 1st team AA last is beyond me, other than the Hop bias.  He has a grand total of 14 Goals, 7 Assists, and 14 GB's this year in 14 games.  Didn't have the greatest stats last year either.  Sure, he is built like an LB but so is Robbie Campbell.  He is the most overated player in the NCAA.  I'll take my chances with JJ and the slides. 

Sunday seems like a great day to shock the world.  Lets go BROOK!!! 
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Re: NCAA First Round- SB @ Johns Hopkins
« Reply #13 on: May 08, 2012, 01:22:40 pm »
Couldn't agree more joewillie, how are you an all american when your shot% is 16% this year & 21% for career. Here are Ranagans career #s and you be the judge (he is a junior) 45gms 41g 26a 67pts thats a joke for an aa. Cambell's #s 58gms 81g 54a 132pts & shoots 40% career who would you pick.  Since Ranagan has only 67pts in 3 yrs do not think he will get 65 next yr to equal Campbell.  The best way to shut up Quint & the boys on espn is to win and send them home.

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Re: NCAA First Round- SB @ Johns Hopkins
« Reply #14 on: May 08, 2012, 01:43:41 pm »
Couldn't agree more joewillie, how are you an all american when your shot% is 16% this year & 21% for career. Here are Ranagans career #s and you be the judge (he is a junior) 45gms 41g 26a 67pts thats a joke for an aa. Cambell's #s 58gms 81g 54a 132pts & shoots 40% career who would you pick.  Since Ranagan has only 67pts in 3 yrs do not think he will get 65 next yr to equal Campbell.  The best way to shut up Quint & the boys on espn is to win and send them home.

I have to agree too- been hearing a lot about him and while i do think he is good, im not sure the gameplay warranted all that hype.  I was wondering the same you are, JW.

I have to say, ive been reading the JHU fans and many are just way over the top looking past this game.  Some are just too smug to even realize how smug they are.  ???

Anyone going to the game???
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