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there must be something more going on that we know about... i'm not as anti-Priore as you guys are but we dont know what goes on behind closed doors, or what the priorities are.  for example if the players are graduating, staying out of trouble, maybe that's what the administration really wants.

then again, some of you guys DO actually know what goes on behind closed doors!
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Barring a last-minute change of heart or rejection from the President of the University, Chuck got the extension. Believe it's in the 2-4 year range.

This should look familiar in NY sports circles.  With NY Yankees, Cashman/Boone look out for each other, and say things to defend each other, to help keep their jobs, as Hal remains unplugged from the day-to-day.   Assuming rumors to be true, same can be said for Heilbron/Priore, and Heilbron/Ford.  Looking out for each other while President sits back idly, thinking that all is well, since we just elevated to CAA.
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Well, I think I see it this way:

Priore Negatives:
- Predictable, run-heavy offense that hasn't had a good passer in a very long time (be it from recruitment or transfer issues, what have you)
- He doesn't consistently show the energy that I'd expect from a coach hungry for a championship, but that could be more reflective of his age rather than anything else
- His teams at times don't seem disciplined, and his interviews don't give off the idea that he strongly instills that in his players

Priore Positives:
- His graduation rates are high
- His program APR is very high (Higher than every other state school in the conference but Rhode Island, who tied us at 973 and W&M, who scored 980). In fact, 2020-2021 was the highest it has ever been at SBU as a D1 program
- While I do not know how coaches see him, his public reputation is sound
- I've talked to him, we used to go to the same gym. He's an introvert, but seems like a decent human being

The last "major" coach to be fired at SBU was Nagle with MLax, who was widely seen in a negative light and was costing his program recruits and reputation. Priore's coaching may not always satisfy us, and the on field product may not be transcendent, but he is NOT an embarrassment to this school because - while we sometimes wish otherwise - I have to agree with him that winning is not the sole thing that defines a collegiate football program.

While I think there's something to be said about bringing in a new face to a program, and the guy is aging so one will eventually appear, I do not blame SH for extending Priore. I would, however, beg them to spend some real money on a good OC who can properly prepare a passer.
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thanks for this redwyn... i was getting the sense there's more to it.  i suspect you are right.

maybe we sometimes compare ourselves to the P5 programs where it truly is win at all costs, and then coaches are fired in a year or two, sometimes midseason, pay out the rest of a contract and then pay out an even bigger one to the next coach.  losing continuity and relationships all at the same time.  it might not be better, but certainly fits our instant gratification world.
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“Ground Chuck” offense will be key for the 2022 Stony Brook football team
https://www.sbstatesman.com/2022/09/04/ground-chuck-offense-will-be-key-for-the-2022-stony-brook-football-team/

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Lawton may lead the rushing attack, but the Seawolves also boast a pair of strong backup running backs who have provided plenty of production before. Roland Dempster is a power runner, just like Lawton, while Seba Nekhet is an experienced runner who provides an effective change of pace.

Dempster and Nekhet are currently sidelined with lower-body injuries and were on crutches for Thursday night’s season opener against No. 22 Rhode Island. However, they are expected to return this year.

However, with an inexperienced quarterback group and a first-year starter at the quarterback position, it seems likely that the running game will be used even more in 2022.

“We met as an offensive staff and we said, ‘What’s the one way we’re going to help our quarterbacks be great?’” Priore said. “And we said, ‘Run the ball.’’’

Priore said he is confident in the run blocking ability of the offensive line and the tight ends, along with the talent of his running backs. He said that the plan is to lean on them to lessen the burden on his quarterback.


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Sloppy offense, weak finish plummet Stony Brook football to opening night loss
https://www.sbstatesman.com/2022/09/02/sloppy-offense-weak-finish-plummet-stony-brook-football-to-opening-night-loss/

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The Seawolves’ passing offense suffered a miserable night overall, as Zamot and Bryden combined to complete just eight of their 24 passes for just 83 yards and three picks. Despite a poor performance from the two of them, it was not all their fault. The Seawolves receivers dropped several catchable passes that stalled drives.

The offensive line had several breakdowns in pass protection as well, which Priore pointed out in his press conference.

“From my vantage point, I don’t think we protected them very well when the opportunities arose,” Priore said.

Now entering their bye in week two, Priore said that the team will re-evaluate the quarterback situation. Despite that, Priore also said that he has not lost any confidence in his two quarterbacks.

“I’m confident in them,” Priore said. “I’m just as confident as I was yesterday.”

Another reason for Stony Brook’s poor offensive output was that Rhode Island stopped the run. The Seawolves rushed for 167 yards, but they only averaged 3.9 yards per carry as a team, and Zamot was the team’s leading rusher with 83 yards. Lawton was stuffed all night, rushing for only 46 yards on 20 carries. They never pulled off a big play: the longest run by a Stony Brook running back was only 12 yards. Lawton’s main backups, Roland Dempster and Seba Nekhet, were both out with lower-body injuries, leaving the Seawolves without two other big pieces of their run game.

“We didn’t get off any big plays that changed the field,” Priore said. “It needs to be better at every aspect.”

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The thing with Priore is that he does the bare minimum to avoid getting fired.

(1) runs a clean program
(2) wins a few games every year to make it seem like "next year will be better"


I'm sure Stony Brook wants to avoid setbacks in the future and buying out the coach. But I think its time to take the risk and get a new coach. I was in the Priore camp in the back of giving him additional time. But time has run out now.

We have great facilities, good funding, and a great university overall. It should be possible to win and compete at a high level in the FCS at Stony Brook. Priore has gotten accustomed to his paycheck and mediocrity
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btw mike anderson great job on the articles, giving us info we can't get elsewhere.  it's good to have our local media keep us informed. GO SB
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Well, I think I see it this way:

Priore Negatives:
- Predictable, run-heavy offense that hasn't had a good passer in a very long time (be it from recruitment or transfer issues, what have you)
- He doesn't consistently show the energy that I'd expect from a coach hungry for a championship, but that could be more reflective of his age rather than anything else
- His teams at times don't seem disciplined, and his interviews don't give off the idea that he strongly instills that in his players

Priore Positives:
- His graduation rates are high
- His program APR is very high (Higher than every other state school in the conference but Rhode Island, who tied us at 973 and W&M, who scored 980). In fact, 2020-2021 was the highest it has ever been at SBU as a D1 program
- While I do not know how coaches see him, his public reputation is sound
- I've talked to him, we used to go to the same gym. He's an introvert, but seems like a decent human being

The last "major" coach to be fired at SBU was Nagle with MLax, who was widely seen in a negative light and was costing his program recruits and reputation. Priore's coaching may not always satisfy us, and the on field product may not be transcendent, but he is NOT an embarrassment to this school because - while we sometimes wish otherwise - I have to agree with him that winning is not the sole thing that defines a collegiate football program.

While I think there's something to be said about bringing in a new face to a program, and the guy is aging so one will eventually appear, I do not blame SH for extending Priore. I would, however, beg them to spend some real money on a good OC who can properly prepare a passer.

I thought Football coaches are hired to win games, not lose them. Fans really dont care if athletes have the highest GPA out of all D1 football programs.

I totally disagree with you about SH extending P's contract. It will be four more years of the same thing, losing. if that is your style of college football, then support it, not mine.


Coach P is as arrogant and narcissistic as any human being I've spoken to. His people skills with the supporting public are the worst, and his communication with the public as far as the direction the program is going is trash. He's not transparent. keeps the public and boosters in the dark. I've had many conversations with him over the course of 11 years, In public and outside of the public. I am not the only one who feels this way as well. And you wonder why SBU has a hard time finding "big money boosters" to donate back to this program. I surely hope that scoreboard can stay lit for the entire season!!

I know for a fact many high school coaches don't like him. One local school in particular, WM. I heard that first hand.

Coach P is being paid quite well for a coach with a losing record in the CAA. I think you give him too much credit and I also think he should have not gotten a contract extension. This extension is indicative of the direction SBU is going in sports. W & L does not matter anymore here. Just keeping the program solvent enough to say SBU has a D1 sports program for all to see is all that matters now..

Take a good look around other schools that play football in the CAA, and see what direction they are going in football. It's not down, only up.

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i dont think he was agreeing with the extension- just pointing out why it may have happened.

maybe this is the drawback of enjoying such a strong academic reputation; this is what comes with it- sometimes.  pulling off both athletics and academics (let's say like stanford, duke, michigan, UVa, etc.) is very, very difficult and so seldom done.
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Delaware beats Navy today 14-7 behind a new coach.

Coach P has been with SBU for 18 years and he's still losing to Rhode Island and will have ass handed to him by UMASS.

Stony Brook beat Delaware last season 34-17.  All this tell us is that the Navy program has completely turned to crap!

Delaware fired their head coach Rocco after ONE 5-6 season, immediately after making the Final Four in the Covid year. That's the sign of a school that actually knows what it's doing and doesn't make excuses for bad performance. They didn't care that he did well in the Covid year, half a year later he was out of a job because he DID NOT PERFORM.

They replaced him with a guy that reinvigorated the program and immediately won an FBS game. It's amazing what getting rid of dead weight mediocrity and replacing him with fresh exciting blood can do!

Stony Brook bringing Priore back is the school committing its own suicide. Priore is probably on his way to his fourth straight under .500 season, and what do we do? Give him the chance to bring us four more under .500 seasons instead of getting rid of him! Stupid, stupid, stupid!

McGuiness is turning into such a bust of a president. If she OK's this, she is just as useless. She came from Texas, she's not blind to what an actual school looks like. She knows how to read win-loss columns and scoreboard numbers. I'd love to see the justification, knowing all of this info that's readily available to all of us. Heilbron also is getting too much credit for being accepted into the CAA. Anyone at the time could have taken Stony Brook there, Heilbron didn't do anything special.

No one with half a brain would extend Priore. The school and athletic department is run by morons.
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Delaware beats Navy today 14-7 behind a new coach.

Coach P has been with SBU for 18 years and he's still losing to Rhode Island and will have ass handed to him by UMASS.

Stony Brook beat Delaware last season 34-17.  All this tell us is that the Navy program has completely turned to crap!

I seriously doubt that Navy turned to crap. Let's see how they play against Memphis at home this weekend.

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Well, I think I see it this way:

Priore Negatives:
- Predictable, run-heavy offense that hasn't had a good passer in a very long time (be it from recruitment or transfer issues, what have you)
- He doesn't consistently show the energy that I'd expect from a coach hungry for a championship, but that could be more reflective of his age rather than anything else
- His teams at times don't seem disciplined, and his interviews don't give off the idea that he strongly instills that in his players

Priore Positives:
- His graduation rates are high
- His program APR is very high (Higher than every other state school in the conference but Rhode Island, who tied us at 973 and W&M, who scored 980). In fact, 2020-2021 was the highest it has ever been at SBU as a D1 program
- While I do not know how coaches see him, his public reputation is sound
- I've talked to him, we used to go to the same gym. He's an introvert, but seems like a decent human being

The last "major" coach to be fired at SBU was Nagle with MLax, who was widely seen in a negative light and was costing his program recruits and reputation. Priore's coaching may not always satisfy us, and the on field product may not be transcendent, but he is NOT an embarrassment to this school because - while we sometimes wish otherwise - I have to agree with him that winning is not the sole thing that defines a collegiate football program.

While I think there's something to be said about bringing in a new face to a program, and the guy is aging so one will eventually appear, I do not blame SH for extending Priore. I would, however, beg them to spend some real money on a good OC who can properly prepare a passer.

Simply "not being an embarassment to the school" should't be reason enough to keep your job at a school with a profile as high as ours who spends as much as we do on salaries for coaches. Last I checked Coach P got paid more than some FBS coaches all to lose to Rhode Island.

He's gotta go. It's time. Nothing against him as a person, but the wins/losses are unacceptable at this point.