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Re: 2018 Football
« Reply #45 on: July 20, 2018, 04:59:04 pm »
Tomorrow is a big day at SBU as it's their annual 7 on 7 competition and many very good teams from the tri state will be in attendance and then once that is completed many future SBU recruits will make their cay to the campus to show off their talents in the prospect camp this is the third one and there will be three more to follow

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« Reply #46 on: July 21, 2018, 06:22:00 am »
Tomorrow is a big day at SBU as it's their annual 7 on 7 competition and many very good teams from the tri state will be in attendance and then once that is completed many future SBU recruits will make their cay to the campus to show off their talents in the prospect camp this is the third one and there will be three more to follow

According to Brian McLaughlin. Hero Sports, tweeted, ElON Just signed 5 hot recruits and 3 had FBS offers from big schools, and more to come... If ELON, who is still new to the FBS can garnish star players, why cant SB football do this. It all comes down to coaching. Chuck Priore needs to change things up with his staff and find some big names assistants who can recruit .

I follow some FCS fan page groups on FB and and people are all over the country talking about their FCS teams and news that relate to the FCS. Nobody every talks or brings up SB football.I am the only one who will bring up some topics about SB football. But, they will talk about every other CAA team . This is a shame. If SB wants to make a name for themselves in football then they need to start making noise and get loud. This will only happen with a coaching change and bring in new staff.. Follow ELON approach coach P if you want to get recognized!!!!!!

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« Reply #47 on: July 21, 2018, 05:41:01 pm »
Tomorrow is a big day at SBU as it's their annual 7 on 7 competition and many very good teams from the tri state will be in attendance and then once that is completed many future SBU recruits will make their cay to the campus to show off their talents in the prospect camp this is the third one and there will be three more to follow

According to Brian McLaughlin. Hero Sports, tweeted, ElON Just signed 5 hot recruits and 3 had FBS offers from big schools, and more to come... If ELON, who is still new to the FBS can garnish star players, why cant SB football do this. It all comes down to coaching. Chuck Priore needs to change things up with his staff and find some big names assistants who can recruit .

I follow some FCS fan page groups on FB and and people are all over the country talking about their FCS teams and news that relate to the FCS. Nobody every talks or brings up SB football.I am the only one who will bring up some topics about SB football. But, they will talk about every other CAA team . This is a shame. If SB wants to make a name for themselves in football then they need to start making noise and get loud. This will only happen with a coaching change and bring in new staff.. Follow ELON approach coach P if you want to get recognized!!!!!!
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Albany - 6 points
New Hsmpshire - 6 points
JMU - 3 points

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New Hampshire - 38 points
JMU - 7 points

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« Reply #48 on: July 21, 2018, 07:46:18 pm »
Tomorrow is a big day at SBU as it's their annual 7 on 7 competition and many very good teams from the tri state will be in attendance and then once that is completed many future SBU recruits will make their cay to the campus to show off their talents in the prospect camp this is the third one and there will be three more to follow

According to Brian McLaughlin. Hero Sports, tweeted, ElON Just signed 5 hot recruits and 3 had FBS offers from big schools, and more to come... If ELON, who is still new to the FBS can garnish star players, why cant SB football do this. It all comes down to coaching. Chuck Priore needs to change things up with his staff and find some big names assistants who can recruit .

I follow some FCS fan page groups on FB and and people are all over the country talking about their FCS teams and news that relate to the FCS. Nobody every talks or brings up SB football.I am the only one who will bring up some topics about SB football. But, they will talk about every other CAA team . This is a shame. If SB wants to make a name for themselves in football then they need to start making noise and get loud. This will only happen with a coaching change and bring in new staff.. Follow ELON approach coach P if you want to get recognized!!!!!!

Elon is FCS lol. I think you meant new to the CAA? Or perhaps new to actually having a team with a pulse....

The thing with our recruiting this year will be this; Coach P hasn't had his contract renewed as this truly is a make or break season for him. In my mind, we'd need another playoff appearance (7-8 wins) in order to retain him since the schedule is much harder and a lot of our talent has graduated. This year will be a real test for Coach P and his staff. Until we know if we're renewing his contract or not, we're going to have a hard time recruiting players since no kid is going to want to commit to a school where they don't even know who the coach will be.

And while we're on the subject of recruiting, JMU has gotten several 3* commits and FBS transfers into their program. Their current team could probably win CUSA this year if they were FBS, so they're positioned to run this conference for a long time. Only way that changes is if an ACC school poaches their coach.
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« Reply #49 on: July 22, 2018, 07:55:01 am »
Tomorrow is a big day at SBU as it's their annual 7 on 7 competition and many very good teams from the tri state will be in attendance and then once that is completed many future SBU recruits will make their cay to the campus to show off their talents in the prospect camp this is the third one and there will be three more to follow

According to Brian McLaughlin. Hero Sports, tweeted, ElON Just signed 5 hot recruits and 3 had FBS offers from big schools, and more to come... If ELON, who is still new to the FBS can garnish star players, why cant SB football do this. It all comes down to coaching. Chuck Priore needs to change things up with his staff and find some big names assistants who can recruit .

I follow some FCS fan page groups on FB and and people are all over the country talking about their FCS teams and news that relate to the FCS. Nobody every talks or brings up SB football.I am the only one who will bring up some topics about SB football. But, they will talk about every other CAA team . This is a shame. If SB wants to make a name for themselves in football then they need to start making noise and get loud. This will only happen with a coaching change and bring in new staff.. Follow ELON approach coach P if you want to get recognized!!!!!!

Elon is FCS lol. I think you meant new to the CAA? Or perhaps new to actually having a team with a pulse....

The thing with our recruiting this year will be this; Coach P hasn't had his contract renewed as this truly is a make or break season for him. In my mind, we'd need another playoff appearance (7-8 wins) in order to retain him since the schedule is much harder and a lot of our talent has graduated. This year will be a real test for Coach P and his staff. Until we know if we're renewing his contract or not, we're going to have a hard time recruiting players since no kid is going to want to commit to a school where they don't even know who the coach will be.

And while we're on the subject of recruiting, JMU has gotten several 3* commits and FBS transfers into their program. Their current team could probably win CUSA this year if they were FBS, so they're positioned to run this conference for a long time. Only way that changes is if an ACC school poaches their coach.

Typo, Elon is FCS not FBS. I think you know that already.

I agree with you that star players wont take chance on SB if they dont know if their HC will be around next season or not.

SB had an easy schedule last year. This year not so much so. I am not expecting only one loss again for us in the CAA. We could go easily go 6-5 or 5-6. and miss the playoffs. Is that enough to renew coach P contract? Time will tell. Something inside my gut tells me SB can go 1-10 and coach P contract will still be renewed. 

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« Reply #50 on: July 22, 2018, 08:29:49 am »
Some good stuff to check out. Look where JMU, Harvard and NDSU rank .. ELON is on this list to but all the way at the bottom. SB is not listed.

https://247sports.com/Season/2019-Football/CompositeTeamRankings/

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« Reply #51 on: July 22, 2018, 09:19:14 am »
Some good stuff to check out. Look where JMU, Harvard and NDSU rank .. ELON is on this list to but all the way at the bottom. SB is not listed.

https://247sports.com/Season/2019-Football/CompositeTeamRankings/
Itís a bullshit ranking system by 24/7, who is just trying to make a name for itself and itís still early to rank all teams.  By the way, last year Stony brook was ranked higher than JMU. Just take these rankings with a grain of salt, especially the ones outside of the top 30.
Who would be a good replacement for Coach P?
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« Reply #52 on: July 22, 2018, 11:36:27 am »
These rankings are only ever decent for very elite players. If you're not an elite FBS program pulling in top 300 recruits, I don't think it's worth your time looking into these things. Also the recruiting websites don't pay any attention to new york recruits. ESPN doesn't have a single NY high school player evaluated for the class of 19.

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« Reply #53 on: July 22, 2018, 12:30:29 pm »
A 6-5 season may get Coach P renewed, but that wouldn't be enough to convince me unless our losses are one score games against good competition. If we win the games we should win, and then lose close ones to JMU, Air Force, and a couple other strong teams, maybe I'd go for that. If it's our typical 5-6 season then forget about it.


These rankings are only ever decent for very elite players. If you're not an elite FBS program pulling in top 300 recruits, I don't think it's worth your time looking into these things. Also the recruiting websites don't pay any attention to new york recruits. ESPN doesn't have a single NY high school player evaluated for the class of 19.

I think this is something that can work in our favor, especially if/when we move up. The northeast is under-recruited. There's talent, but teams aren't necessarily looking for it here. They're looking in Texas, California, and the South mostly. Our conference affiliation gives us recruiting ties into Maryland and Virginia which have plenty of talent that will head north for the right coaching staff.


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« Reply #54 on: July 22, 2018, 12:42:00 pm »

Who would be a good replacement for Coach P?

Very good question. My first move would be to try and get Lyle Hemphill back here since we were a top 5 defense while he was here. The wildcard there is we don't know how good of a coach he'll be vs a coordinator, but his performance here with us makes him worth taking a chance on. I think we could poach him from Wake Forest as that gives him the chance to bolster his resume with a HC gig.

Outside of Lyle I'd have to start digging to turn up candidates that would be good, but given the reputation of the university, and the large salary we're willing to pay (by FCS standards) we should be able to at the very least poach a top coordinator from another program. I'm sure there are guys on the JMU or NDSU sideline who would love the chance to coach here. If all else fails, we got Coach P from a D3 school, so looking there has worked for us before.

I've been very hard on Coach P lately, but he's an offensive minded coach who won many games for us when he's had the talent in the program to compete. I want to give him his chance this year and the schedule is lining up to do just that.
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« Reply #55 on: July 23, 2018, 05:42:37 am »
These rankings are only ever decent for very elite players. If you're not an elite FBS program pulling in top 300 recruits, I don't think it's worth your time looking into these things. Also the recruiting websites don't pay any attention to new york recruits. ESPN doesn't have a single NY high school player evaluated for the class of 19.

Jeremy Rucket is from Lindenhurst and was a 4 star TE recruited by Ohio State . I watched him play last season and he is the real deal. But for the most part, yeah. The NE is not a breading grounds for recruits.

https://247sports.com/Player/Jeremy-Ruckert-91686

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« Reply #56 on: July 23, 2018, 08:46:09 am »
These rankings are only ever decent for very elite players. If you're not an elite FBS program pulling in top 300 recruits, I don't think it's worth your time looking into these things. Also the recruiting websites don't pay any attention to new york recruits. ESPN doesn't have a single NY high school player evaluated for the class of 19.

Jeremy Rucket is from Lindenhurst and was a 4 star TE recruited by Ohio State . I watched him play last season and he is the real deal. But for the most part, yeah. The NE is not a breading grounds for recruits.

https://247sports.com/Player/Jeremy-Ruckert-91686

It's not even that the NE isn't a breeding ground for recruits. It's that recruiting services don't pay attention to NE recruits. If Rucket had committed to Stony Brook as  junior and shut down his recruitment, I bet he wouldn't be rated. When the services find out he has offers from Ohio State and the likes, they start watching film and giving scores. It's also why Elon appears to have great recruits

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« Reply #57 on: July 23, 2018, 01:20:40 pm »
Would like to see us start a discussion on what the strengths we have on the team Offense, Defense, ST's and get some thoughts on this especially with Media day coming up this week.  I know we have all sorts of Pro and Con Coach P' folks here, but that aside and either downplaying last season's team or talking about all of us being the next Carnac the Magnificent with our strength of record, here's some of my takes.

Offense- I like the new kid from Temple (Marshall) who has come in. Looks like a nice fit to assist JC in his throwing routes.  Of course we have Cal D coming back and Anderson and Wingate so if they can stay healthy that would be great. RB's I think we are loaded with punishing Donne L and even Gowins  (thus I am guessing why we are looking at RS Isiah White-but we do have that new NCAA rule for the 4 games so who knows). Only real weakness I see is with the OL is Zimmerman who last year got a beat a lot on inside, and on the FG's they came through him in the Spring game- so hopefully they have been getting that ironed out.

Defense- or course looks strong across the board and with our LB core hopefully they can continues to cause havoc on our opponents. Hopefully some of the new DB's can make an impact GT Jefferson from Temple) and I personally like Helsop as a DB and reminds me of a smaller TB. Hope Contressa gets a lot more reps  I think our pass rush will need to be a bit more "creative" but Coach Bob has done a nice job. Hopefully Kamara and Scarbrough can standout. Note sure if the Peterson kid is ready to hang yet-
so the only weakness I see here is in the DL depth as the season goes along.

ST-looks like we have a lot of guys coming back to help. Donnie Washington and Donnie L on the Punt return and KO's I hope can make a major impact. It was nice to see Courtney had hit that 49 yarder in the Spring Game so hopefully Coach P will give him some more opportunities- but we also know Coach P likes to play the position game. Surprised that the kid they brought in 2 years ago (Prubin) has not **** the starting line-up but good for Courtney as a former WO getting the scholarship out of it. Lukansky brings back his high Sky kicks and the KO return team has been solid (but with the change in the NCAA fair catch rule) not sure if Coach T will change anything Nolan returns as the Punter (I was told he co-led all of FBS and FCS with his inside the 20 balls), and they are bringing a new Aussie as well.  Barber comes back as the long snapper so that's good and Nolan is coming back to hold on PATs and FG's.

And there is my best and only shot as to how we'll do on the player side.

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« Reply #58 on: July 24, 2018, 03:19:31 pm »
Boyssss. 39 DAYS TILL FOOTBALL! Lets gooo.

Can't wait!! GO SEAWOLVES!

I hope we can watch that game on TV somehow
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« Reply #59 on: July 24, 2018, 05:28:14 pm »
Boyssss. 39 DAYS TILL FOOTBALL! Lets gooo.

Can't wait!! GO SEAWOLVES!

I hope we can watch that game on TV somehow

CBSSN owns most of the MWC TV contract, so I'd guess that's where the game will be. Most likely VIA an online stream.