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Re: 2017 Empire Clash - vs. Albany (Game 9)
« Reply #75 on: November 06, 2017, 02:32:24 pm »
iBO for that very reason, i keep an eye on the Big South.  sure, it looked like a bad move when Coastal got hot recently, but our SoS is improved and the CAA gets more teams in. 
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Re: 2017 Empire Clash - vs. Albany (Game 9)
« Reply #76 on: November 06, 2017, 04:20:09 pm »
Leaving the Big South was always going to be a positive move. It was a football only move and made all the sense in the world. Even now the Big South has two teams that could finish 10-1 overall, but still not get a seed and be ranked behind us because of the weakness of that league. It's also actually weaker now than when we were there. Us, Coastal, and VMI are all gone, and Liberty is gone after this season.

The Coaches poll has been a farce this year, but even they have us at 15. STATS has us at 12 which is more accurate. Win out, and I think the selection committee will look favorably upon us. The only threats to us from a seeing perspective are Southern Utah and Elon (if they beat JMU). South Dakota is certain to lose one of the next two at least, and WIU has three losses. We're looking good guys. Just take care of business. A conference title is still a possibility too, but needs serious chaos.

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Re: 2017 Empire Clash - vs. Albany (Game 9)
« Reply #77 on: November 06, 2017, 05:44:48 pm »
The game against Albany was very intents, but our team did what they needed to do to win.  Some of you all might feel that the defense the Legion of Wolves is not that great but I feel that the defense is awesome those five young men put their heart and soul into the games along with the rest of the defense players. I do feel that coach P coaches on his emotions and feeling towards most of the players and he needs to stop and remember there is no I in team.  I feel that he does not believe in the teams abilities and he does not trust their capabilities as players.  The team will only play as good as the person who is in charge.  Coach P needs to learn how to let his staff participate in helping him.  There is no player on the team better than the next, but every parent, family member would like to see the player they come out to represent touch the field and it is understandable because everyone will believe that their child is just as good as the next player. But this is not about who is the best and who should play and not play.  This should be about SBU getting to the playoff after not getting in for five years.
Coach P is going to be coach P but Saturday just showed his true abilities as a coach.  What coach has his own fans booing them that was  crazy.  Right now we need to stay focus on what is important to the team and that is them getting to the playoffs.  Go SBU!

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Re: 2017 Empire Clash - vs. Albany (Game 9)
« Reply #78 on: November 06, 2017, 08:35:11 pm »
The game against Albany was very intents, but our team did what they needed to do to win.  Some of you all might feel that the defense the Legion of Wolves is not that great but I feel that the defense is awesome those five young men put their heart and soul into the games along with the rest of the defense players. I do feel that coach P coaches on his emotions and feeling towards most of the players and he needs to stop and remember there is no I in team.  I feel that he does not believe in the teams abilities and he does not trust their capabilities as players.  The team will only play as good as the person who is in charge.  Coach P needs to learn how to let his staff participate in helping him.  There is no player on the team better than the next, but every parent, family member would like to see the player they come out to represent touch the field and it is understandable because everyone will believe that their child is just as good as the next player. But this is not about who is the best and who should play and not play.  This should be about SBU getting to the playoff after not getting in for five years.
Coach P is going to be coach P but Saturday just showed his true abilities as a coach.  What coach has his own fans booing them that was  crazy.  Right now we need to stay focus on what is important to the team and that is them getting to the playoffs.  Go SBU!

Well said and spot on.. Something a lot of us have been saying for a long time now.. Coach P is coach P, no changing hom.. Either love him or hate him, he's not changing is style of football..

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Re: 2017 Empire Clash - vs. Albany (Game 9)
« Reply #79 on: November 07, 2017, 08:32:50 am »
There's no question that Priore's record has been very mediocre, especially in light of the playoff drought for such a large university like SBU. I wouldn't give him much credit for earlier playoff appearances. The only reason they made it there was because of two "gifts" dropped in his lap when Hofstra dropped its program and freed up two outstanding running backs. This playoff year could very well be an outlier. Any contract extension should not be based on what happens this year...the program could revert to the mean next year.

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Re: 2017 Empire Clash - vs. Albany (Game 9)
« Reply #80 on: November 07, 2017, 10:39:46 am »
Chrissy;  you are way off on many issue..

Return game:   You have one of the best players sitting on the bench #3 not being used that is crazy & he  transferred to SBU from Boston College & he has the best skills at this position.

SBU D: THIS TEAM PLAYS A PREVENT THEY DO NOT PLAY WELL MAN ON MAN off the line.

Using TE: 1st of all they do not get proper reps in practice which effects consistency on the field; 88 does have great hands & good speed &  yes he does train with 2 former NFL receivers & he has skills not being utilized at SBU .. When you have a  6 ft 8" player sitting on the bench on third down & short is just poor execution using TE in games....   We have  #45 on the field also; they might average 1 or 2 catches a game  #88 had injury issue early in the season & he finally getting back to 100%.

Chrissy you have family member on the field the last 2 years; i been here 6 & SBU is not an offence that use TE in there game planning  enough it's a shame. Go back and look at game film against Towson RI the middle was wide open & when our TE ran routes that had a huge size advantage coaches didn't adjust.  Look at most successful teams in the NCAA & NFL they are a huge asset in there game planning. & yes most players are not a (Gronk) ass statement you stated.

To state he doesn't have hands & can't catch... you are truly don't have no ideal what your talking about.

There has not been 1 player with issue recently on this team; RB have been fumbling often in the last several game & there has been a lot of dropped balls by the WR.

SBU offensive:   We do not you the short field very well & teams load the box & the only wat to off set this is to use the short passing game w RB & TE which will also open up the deep routes.

If you feel like discussing this more one on one I look forward to at senior game.....


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Re: 2017 Empire Clash - vs. Albany (Game 9)
« Reply #81 on: November 07, 2017, 03:59:04 pm »
Slow your roll SBUFootball. First off i have no family members on the team and i have been following SBU football for 27 yrs ever since I played there. I never said 88 has no hands, someone else commented on him dropping the ball. What i said in regards to the return game was that it is not uncommon to use your starting backs on returns, a lot of schools do it. Liotine is averaging just about 24 yds a return wich is the same ave that Alston had last yr. I never said Alston cant play. As far as the defense goes I gave some credit to the other teams for having good QB's and WR's , dont quite get the prevent def statement. What is your point about who 88 works out with, its irrelevent. And yes he is talked about on this thread like he is Gronk. I didnt dog him i said he was a versital player who put the team first. As far as you teaching me anything, save it dude. I have seen this program first hand from Div 3 when we played on a jr high school field. I watched Coach Kornhauser take it to the new stadium and FCS level. And I have watched them for the last 10 yrs with Priore have some ups and downs. I will take what the school has now over playing by the train station in front of 100 people. Save your lessons for someone else and if you are going to call me out by name get your facts straight.

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Re: 2017 Empire Clash - vs. Albany (Game 9)
« Reply #82 on: November 07, 2017, 04:25:57 pm »
If you listened to Coach P on his 100 yard walk recap he said that Albany had an 19 play drive and tied the score so when they got the ball back they ran the ball to eat up the clock so Albany would have no time left in regulation and he felt comfortable going into OT

I have been coming to SBU Games since they were a club team under Fred Kemp and believe me this is more than I could have ever dreamed about


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Re: 2017 Empire Clash - vs. Albany (Game 9)
« Reply #83 on: November 07, 2017, 04:43:33 pm »
Couldnt agree more Campi. I was good friends with the late Fred Kemp jr. It was Fred sr. who encouraged my brother and I to go to SB and play. Great family, both deeply missed.

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Re: 2017 Empire Clash - vs. Albany (Game 9)
« Reply #84 on: November 08, 2017, 01:20:04 am »
There's no question that Priore's record has been very mediocre, especially in light of the playoff drought for such a large university like SBU. I wouldn't give him much credit for earlier playoff appearances. The only reason they made it there was because of two "gifts" dropped in his lap when Hofstra dropped its program and freed up two outstanding running backs. This playoff year could very well be an outlier. Any contract extension should not be based on what happens this year...the program could revert to the mean next year.

Yes, yes, yes. This!!! I love that we're back in the running for the playoffs, but my God it shouldn't have taken this long. This is a contract year and we have tons of seniors on this team. I really want to see what he does next year. That will be telling. If we give him an extension  right now, that'd be a huge mistake. He knew he'd have loads of seniors and an easier schedule. These schedules are decided far, far in advance so coach P knew what was going on. As was mentioned, he's not going to change his style now, so extending him now would be a mistake. The improvement of Carbone is nice to see though. If we win 7 games next year, then maybe you can start talking about an extension.

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Re: 2017 Empire Clash - vs. Albany (Game 9)
« Reply #85 on: November 08, 2017, 04:53:55 am »
There's no question that Priore's record has been very mediocre, especially in light of the playoff drought for such a large university like SBU. I wouldn't give him much credit for earlier playoff appearances. The only reason they made it there was because of two "gifts" dropped in his lap when Hofstra dropped its program and freed up two outstanding running backs. This playoff year could very well be an outlier. Any contract extension should not be based on what happens this year...the program could revert to the mean next year.

Yes, yes, yes. This!!! I love that we're back in the running for the playoffs, but my God it shouldn't have taken this long. This is a contract year and we have tons of seniors on this team. I really want to see what he does next year. That will be telling. If we give him an extension  right now, that'd be a huge mistake. He knew he'd have loads of seniors and an easier schedule. These schedules are decided far, far in advance so coach P knew what was going on. As was mentioned, he's not going to change his style now, so extending him now would be a mistake. The improvement of Carbone is nice to see though. If we win 7 games next year, then maybe you can start talking about an extension.

There is only one person who needs to be convinced of this, and that is Shawn Heilbron..I think SH is stuck between a rock and a hard place. Coach P was influential in the hiring of SH several years ago. How does SH NOT renew P contract next year especially if SB wins a game or two in this year playoff??

I agree 100% with you about the 2 gifts you were referring to with the closure of Hofstra Football program. Top recruits from Long Island find their way into other FCS schools and some FBS...Coach P need to find a way to get them into SB for their education and for football.If he cant do that then may be SH has a huge, difficult decision to make at the end of next season
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