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Re: 2017 Empire Clash - vs. Albany (Game 9)
« Reply #60 on: November 05, 2017, 08:44:27 pm »
I forgot Eastern Washington lost. Them along with NAU's loss really opens things up for us a bit more with the Big Sky cannibalizing itself. Weber St.  is right there in the thick of things too though as they're 7-2 as well, but they played a D2 team so we'd have the edge over them in that respect.

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« Reply #61 on: November 06, 2017, 06:06:17 am »
I've been following SB for the past 3years and i said it and i will say it again COACH P play's to win but coaches to lose i will give you and example.  why are you not playing your best player's you have one of your best defensive player's on kick return if he gets hurt that would be a big blow to your defense your running game is predictable i watch this time after time 8 sometimes 9 defender's in the box's and he still runs the ball risking injury to your backs you have 6'8 tightens  utilize them you have one of the best backs in the conference you have some of the best receivers but most of all you have the #1 defense.  this school hasn't had a winning season in years. Your in a playoff hunt and this coach is playing like this is just another game when you really look at it i believe the team wants to win but the coaches don't know how to win COACH P. I think you need to dig deep down inside your soul put all this personal s_ _ t to side  leave your feelings and emotions at home grow some balls and get out there and take this team to that 🏆

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« Reply #62 on: November 06, 2017, 06:45:01 am »
I've been following SB for the past 3years and i said it and i will say it again COACH P play's to win but coaches to lose i will give you and example.  why are you not playing your best player's you have one of your best defensive player's on kick return if he gets hurt that would be a big blow to your defense your running game is predictable i watch this time after time 8 sometimes 9 defender's in the box's and he still runs the ball risking injury to your backs you have 6'8 tightens  utilize them you have one of the best backs in the conference you have some of the best receivers but most of all you have the #1 defense.  this school hasn't had a winning season in years. Your in a playoff hunt and this coach is playing like this is just another game when you really look at it i believe the team wants to win but the coaches don't know how to win COACH P. I think you need to dig deep down inside your soul put all this personal s_ _ t to side  leave your feelings and emotions at home grow some balls and get out there and take this team to that 🏆

Coach P will never change his style of football.  I am very concerned his contract will be renewed when we make the playoffs. How can Heilbron not renew?? I want nothing more to see SB go deep into the playoofs, but I know that will only seal his new long term contract.

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« Reply #63 on: November 06, 2017, 09:52:40 am »
I've been following SB for the past 3years and i said it and i will say it again COACH P play's to win but coaches to lose i will give you and example.  why are you not playing your best player's you have one of your best defensive player's on kick return if he gets hurt that would be a big blow to your defense your running game is predictable i watch this time after time 8 sometimes 9 defender's in the box's and he still runs the ball risking injury to your backs you have 6'8 tightens  utilize them you have one of the best backs in the conference you have some of the best receivers but most of all you have the #1 defense.  this school hasn't had a winning season in years. Your in a playoff hunt and this coach is playing like this is just another game when you really look at it i believe the team wants to win but the coaches don't know how to win COACH P. I think you need to dig deep down inside your soul put all this personal s_ _ t to side  leave your feelings and emotions at home grow some balls and get out there and take this team to that 🏆

Coach P will never change his style of football.  I am very concerned his contract will be renewed when we make the playoffs. How can Heilbron not renew?? I want nothing more to see SB go deep into the playoofs, but I know that will only seal his new long term contract.

Very good point that didn't come into my mind until now. This was a contract year for Coach P. It was the perfect storm of several senior players, and a weak conference schedule in the CAA that's a large part of this year's success. We're still recruiting well, but we should be so much better since as was mentioned. The play-calling has been terrible and we don't utilize our best players effectively.

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« Reply #64 on: November 06, 2017, 10:41:54 am »
Quite frankly I think many (of not all of us) have issues with Coach P- but there is NO WAY our current Defense is number #1. Just as point of reference we are #3 in total defense and that is just in the CAA only (our pass defense is 9th) and 10th in Red Zone defense.  As to the Tight end, I don't care if he is 6'8 or 5'8. Does he have the hands to make the catches? (two weeks ago he dropped an easy pass). He had an awesome block in the USF but if you think he's better than the others that is certainly your opinion but I don't.

I would keep Donnie W off the Punt returns (every game he lets one punt get away from him) especially as we get closer to the playoffs we need someone who can field the punts.

Joe C has the players he believes are the ones he wants to go to in game situations and comes from practices during the week. Ray Bolden is LEADING the conference in a couple of categories and that is awesome for him.

This game should not have even come down to an OT if the OL blocks on the 3rd down and Carbone did not try and lateral the ball- KNOWING a FG would have made it a two possession game. Any HS QB who has been playing QB should have that dialed in to his brain on this down. 
And with our current schedule (whether some want to knock the strength or weakness of it) the fact is that is the schedule, and as of today, we have the best record since we joined the CAA (heck just look at Elon who thought they would be in the hunt?) My worries is we don't finish strong against Wagner and Maine. But at some point in time the "balls" you write about have to also come from the players as well especially the seniors. This is what "senior Leadership" means. 

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Re: 2017 Empire Clash - vs. Albany (Game 9)
« Reply #65 on: November 06, 2017, 11:49:45 am »
I think we're being too critical. The team is 7-2. There are no easy games in the CAA. Saturday the team was playing without their all american LT, their best defensive lineman, fumbled three times, and still managed to beat our SUNY rival. Let's just enjoy this.

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Re: 2017 Empire Clash - vs. Albany (Game 9)
« Reply #66 on: November 06, 2017, 12:28:14 pm »
and we were in that Delaware game, it was tight.

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Re: 2017 Empire Clash - vs. Albany (Game 9)
« Reply #68 on: November 06, 2017, 12:52:51 pm »
I think we're being too critical. The team is 7-2. There are no easy games in the CAA. Saturday the team was playing without their all american LT, their best defensive lineman, fumbled three times, and still managed to beat our SUNY rival. Let's just enjoy this.

This!

Everyone is free to criticize. But damn... all "this Coach P should be fired" talk is making me sick... we are in the middle of a 7-2 season shooting for the FCS playoffs for the first time since 2012, and first time as CAA members. Leave the coach firing stuff until after the season.

I know it hasn't been pretty and trust me, it was painful to watch the end of the UA game... but we are 7-2. We should be excited about this.
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Re: 2017 Empire Clash - vs. Albany (Game 9)
« Reply #72 on: November 06, 2017, 02:10:27 pm »
STATS ranking is the best out there. #12 is fair.

For computer rating #4 is way too high. Sagarin has us #130 in the country and I think #19 in FCS. Massey ranks us #15 in FCS.


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Re: 2017 Empire Clash - vs. Albany (Game 9)
« Reply #73 on: November 06, 2017, 02:12:36 pm »
I have to agree with a couple of u, this team is 7-2 and u would think from reading these posts that they are 2-7. With one loss to FCS teams and the other to South Florida. This is big boy FCS football and sometimes u have to give credit to yhe other team for having good players and coming to play. Delaware, Richmond, and Albany all had very good QB's and wr's. SB was down two starters this week in Haggert and Paris, one being an AA and the other all conf. Plus and in the leadership they bring. Someone posted that the top def playet is returning kicks, thats not true its two rb's. Most schools play their best players on special teams, Penn St had the top back in the country returning kicks. And all this noise about 88 not being used in the passing game is getting silly now. He is a nice player who has been versitile for SB by playing different positions ( DL, TE, OL ) but lets stop making him out to be the second coming of Gronk. He has been here for 6 yrs now maybe the staff knows something about him that u dont, again great team player. Was Albany game sloppy, yes it was but good teams win those games and this team has shown that they no how to win games like that. Instead of enjoying a playoff run all u hear on the thread is negative nonsense and all the better coaching that u could do. Most people root for teams not for the coach to be fired every 2 min. And again i personally dont root for coaches, i want the team to do well.
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Re: 2017 Empire Clash - vs. Albany (Game 9)
« Reply #74 on: November 06, 2017, 02:25:01 pm »
I just want to add that I love CAA and how competitive it is. So glad we play in this conference with peer institutions rather than Big South or NEC. I don’t know if Long Island (and northeast region) will ever be ready for big time FBS football, but playing competitive football in the CAA (SEC of FCS ;)) so much rewarding than being at the bottom of FBS food chain (Buffalo, Umass, UConn, BC etc.) who have nothing to look forward to every November/December.
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