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Campi47

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2017 Commitments
« on: November 26, 2016, 06:03:25 pm »
We are now in the new season which is recruiting the best possible players for your program and then getting those players to commit and eventually sign.

What I'm hearing right now is they have many players that they will start bringing in for visits starting in December

A player that they really like is Kyle Nunez OT/DT from East Islip who is 6'3 310 pounds however he has a total of 6 offers at this time so this is going to be a battle to get him to stay home

Other players that they like from LI are Jordan McLune Farmingdale RB, Dan Lord St. Anthony's DE, Joe Valenti Wantagh DL, John Carpoc Ward Melville Safety, Joel Cruz Freeport OL/DL, Greg Amato William Floyd OL, Anthony Del Negro Connetquot LB, Christian Carrick New Hyde Park PK and there are several more.

Because Coach P has always tried to get the LI players to walk on the LI Coaches are now telling their players if they don't give you any kind of package than go somewhere else.

As I get the list of verbal commits I will post them

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Re: 2017 Commitments
« Reply #1 on: November 26, 2016, 07:33:13 pm »
Thanks for the info

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Re: 2017 Commitments
« Reply #2 on: November 26, 2016, 10:04:36 pm »
Nothing like shooting yourself in the foot with local talent .  So you walk on redshirt a year and hope to play 4 years more.  Why not go somewhere else and get a full or partial scholarship and play in your freshman year. Our program is in reverse.

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Re: 2017 Commitments
« Reply #3 on: November 28, 2016, 11:38:58 am »
I guess that Shawn is not planning to fire P this winter.  if he was, I am sure we would have heard about it by now.

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« Reply #4 on: November 28, 2016, 11:47:22 am »
I guess that Shawn is not planning to fire P this winter.  if he was, I am sure we would have heard about it by now.
2 more years left on P contract. Unless some Big-Money Booster wants to buy out coach P remaining contract I dont see him going anywhere. Maybe next season if he has another dismal year then I can see SB paying buying out one year of his contract, not two......


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« Reply #5 on: November 28, 2016, 11:55:20 am »
This university is very slow to get things accomplished.. How long have we been hearing about that puny, 2000 seat laValle stadium expansion project. 5 years now? and still no signs of construction. Even as of yesterday, when i was there to watch my nephew play in the long island championship game for SWW high school. Shawn told us in the spring, construction was going to start at the at the beginning of this year football season. The same thing for the construction of the indoor workout facility. I am not expecting to see that get going for a few more years even though the $ was appropriated for it, and the same for laValle stadium,
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« Reply #6 on: November 28, 2016, 02:39:18 pm »
I went to all 4 LIC Games this past weekend at both Hofstra and Stony Brook and in my opinion the crowds were not that great

As far as getting better crowds for the SBU Games they need to do the following;

1) Need an exciting product which right now is boring at best

2) Play the Games when the LI HS Teams are not playing and offer package prices to lure teams to come as a group

3) Give an incentive to the College Students to stay on campus and come to these games

4) Run Clinics with young player programs such as PAL ( when Coach K was here he worked very closely with PAL) to build a bigger community presence (I know they do some of this now but not enough)

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« Reply #7 on: November 28, 2016, 03:14:57 pm »
I went to all 4 LIC Games this past weekend at both Hofstra and Stony Brook and in my opinion the crowds were not that great

As far as getting better crowds for the SBU Games they need to do the following;

1) Need an exciting product which right now is boring at best

2) Play the Games when the LI HS Teams are not playing and offer package prices to lure teams to come as a group

3) Give an incentive to the College Students to stay on campus and come to these games

4) Run Clinics with young player programs such as PAL ( when Coach K was here he worked very closely with PAL) to build a bigger community presence (I know they do some of this now but not enough)

I think the ward melville/ Floyd game had the biggest attendance. Over 5500... What a game that was.

All your points you bring up are good ones, campi. Problem is it will be almost impossible to achieve any of them..

1) trying to schedule times is probably the most difficult task of all.

2) Win games and become nationally recognized  is the only way to expand the SB brand, and that is not happening lately

3) SB has a very high percentage of Asians on campus and they dont give two hoots about football. You couldn't pay them $$ to stick around campus on the weekends

4) running clinics is a very good for attracting younger players to SB.. They should should definitely be more involved with that.. I also think the coaches should be more involved with going to local high schools and talk to Juniors and Seniors athletes more. I know they do visit the school if one player is a stud, but make it a yearly visit and get more personal with kids and local high school coaches
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« Reply #8 on: November 28, 2016, 03:30:18 pm »
  Campi I agree we need some type of incentive.  I dont see much improvement for the 2017 season  so  any help is a plus.  I worked in White Plains for a number of years and every August posters would go up on the Metro North trains and Stations promoting Army Football. Army isn't a powerhouse program either so maybe an investment with the LIRR  for the fall season might help.  We are the only Div 1 program out here so lets sell the product across the Island .

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« Reply #9 on: November 28, 2016, 07:28:27 pm »
Every August the coaches in Nassau and Suffolk hold their kickoff meeting to discuss the start of the workouts/schedules/rules/Etc and every HS coach is represented at that meeting for both counties now that would be a good time for the SBU recruiter to be there and layout the SBU goals for their upcoming season however that never happens and I think the LI HS coaches just want to feel a little love and that could go along way for recruiting and getting their players to camps.

As far as SBU starting times even if you got 6 HS teams a week including the players parents, coaches, etc it would be a start

I know there are a lot of Asian students but there are also a lot of non Asian students that they have to figure a way of attracting them to games such as have a concert after a game or a movie or even a carnival but they to try to do something because what they are doing now is not working

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« Reply #10 on: November 29, 2016, 09:51:37 am »
Campi.

The calendar recruiting rules set-up by the NCAA don't allow colleges in the month of August (for football) to have any contact under the "yellow quiet period" and is very specific in the language that college coaches (or their staffs) cannot visit high schools. The entire month of August is in fact a quiet period. I am sure SH and all the various coaches in each sport have their recruiting calendars (I think by NCAA rules they have to publish their dates) and stay on top of what they need to do.

As to the Asian population, whoever stated this is just goofy. Heck he/she might want to check the roster since we have a few "Asians" on the football team. I know this might be a shock but there are several high profile "Asians" who have played in the NFL. Just to name a few, Roman Gabriel, Hines Ward, Dat Nguyen, Tedy Bruschi, Johnnie Morton, Eugene Chung, John Lee

Checking the website and our overall population of the roughly 25,700 students. undergraduate is about 17,026 which the largest being "white"is at 5922; then Asian at 3980; nonresident aliens 2452; Latinos 2012; and "black" 1102. So if we really want to **** off all the various communities, maybe we should have "free chopstix night for the Asians, Taco and Burrito night for the Latinos, to get our fan base up- and also maybe "redskin" night for the 22 American Indians on campus, and reruns of Jake Lord from Hawaii Five-0 for the 18 or so Hawaiian or Pacific Islanders.

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« Reply #11 on: November 29, 2016, 10:32:52 am »
regarding #3.  this is a subject deserving a whole thread.

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« Reply #12 on: November 29, 2016, 01:59:10 pm »
I know all about the NCAA rules

Your missing the point guys around August 15 every year there is a HS Coaches kick off meeting in both Nassau County and Suffolk County there are NO PLAYERS at these meetings if one of the SBU Coaches could show up they could talk directly to the HS Coaches and what promotion nights they want to do to get their HS players to from September through November and discuss anything else on the HS Coaches and SBU Coaches minds.

I talked to a HS Coach on Sunday at SBU and he told me that one of his players was asked to be a preferred walk on at SBU for the4 2017 Class he told that player to not go because he doesn't like how the past walk on players have been treated by the SBU Coaching Staff

Finally there is no reason why SBU Marketing Department can't get students to go to the homes games they just have to be motivated

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« Reply #13 on: November 29, 2016, 02:17:31 pm »
NCAA rules specifically state... no coaches can attend a HS during the August timeline.  Period! I stated nothing about high school football players- an NO college coach can speak to the high coaches or be at the high school during that period. Its a simple as that.  I don't know how I can make it any clearer.

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« Reply #14 on: November 29, 2016, 04:35:35 pm »
I go to these meetings every year and I have seen College Coaches in attendance so one us is not clear