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Re: 2014: Game 1 - Bryant vs SBU 8/28
« Reply #60 on: August 29, 2014, 09:54:20 pm »
Thanks for joining us Biggest Fan.  I read nothing into bednarski's first throw, he came I cold off the bench.  What no one comments on is his second throw on third and short, he hit Coxson in stride on the hands and coxson flat out dropped it.  A catch would have been a first down.  Bedell is fine, yes light, but fast.  He needs to be complimented by a bigger back like Fredrick's or Coker. 

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Re: 2014: Game 1 - Bryant vs SBU 8/28
« Reply #61 on: August 29, 2014, 10:27:21 pm »
Thanks for welcoming me in. I agree with you. I thought they would pound and wear down the defense with bigger backs so stacey would be able get through. We will see what happens next week. Go seawolves!!!

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Re: 2014: Game 1 - Bryant vs SBU 8/28
« Reply #62 on: August 30, 2014, 03:43:11 am »
I want your guys opinions on this. Late in the fourth quarter Kinder threw a bomb into the end zone for Coxson on one on one coverage. In my opinion, Coxson needs to win that 9 times out of 10. I'm not saying Kinder had good game in any way, but If Coxson is able to catch that pass, which I think a #1 reciever should be able to do, we still win that game.

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Re: 2014: Game 1 - Bryant vs SBU 8/28
« Reply #63 on: August 30, 2014, 08:47:23 am »
I want your guys opinions on this. Late in the fourth quarter Kinder threw a bomb into the end zone for Coxson on one on one coverage. In my opinion, Coxson needs to win that 9 times out of 10. I'm not saying Kinder had good game in any way, but If Coxson is able to catch that pass, which I think a #1 reciever should be able to do, we still win that game.

I agree with your assessment, sbufan.  While I thought Kinder certainly had a terrible night, it is true that in addition to the TD pass, I thought he was right on target to Coxson on two other occasions.  I think that one, as you mentioned, should have been caught.  The defender mad a pretty good play on the other. 

That said, I think Coxson would have been a lot more open on several occasions had Kinder been able to take proper advantage of his other weapons--mostly Level and Tye.  If he can get on target with those guys, things will be a lot better.

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Re: 2014: Game 1 - Bryant vs SBU 8/28
« Reply #64 on: August 30, 2014, 10:43:41 am »
Some thoughts about the game:
     1) The game would have been very different with a significant number of players who missed all or part of the game due to disciplinary reasons playing. I wish the players would have some type of understanding that they need to put their own selfish wants and obey team rules. I think these players only see the consequences of their actions affecting themselves and there is no culture present / peer pressure that results in them understanding that they have let their teammates down.
      2) The dropped TD pass to Coxson was definitely a pass interference that wasn't called. The defender never even looked back at the ball.
      3) Coach's strategy of bringing in transfers definitely has quickly raised the status of the program. However, I believe the downside will begin to manifest itself with future recruiting. What player wants to come to a program, get red shirted for one year, sit on the bench for 2 more years and then when he thinks it is his turn to start, finds a Junior College or D1 transfer taking his place? There are some FCS programs that do this consistently and there are some that don't. We just got beat by one that doesn't. Recruits notice these things.

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Re: 2014: Game 1 - Bryant vs SBU 8/28
« Reply #65 on: August 30, 2014, 11:32:22 am »
Good comments sundoc.  QB Hernandez must be frustrated camper.  His third year in the program, he has only seen the field for place kick holding

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Re: 2014: Game 1 - Bryant vs SBU 8/28
« Reply #66 on: August 30, 2014, 12:15:26 pm »
some additional thoughts on the transfers.  I give Coach P a lot of credit on this subject.  I think he thoroughly researches potential transfers to see if they will be good fits to the program.  he probably looks at the reasons for them leaving the former school, personal characteristics, etc.  Also, i am sure, makes some analysis as to whether that transfer will be a good fit with the program.  Will that person upset the chemistry of the team, or not.  take for example the new LB we got from Oregon.  from what I understand, he just plain quit the Oregon team.  i did not hear about any discipline issues etc.  I assume Coach P thinks he is a good risk, high reward kind of kid to bring into the program.  and how can we forget Miguel Maysonet, a transfer from Hofstra, or Mr. Coker a transfer from Iowa.  all these guys have added immediate value to the team.  and prior to the Coker Game 1 suspension, I had been hearing that team chemistry was very high for the 2014 squad.  clearly, there are some transfers that don't work out.  Art Doakes, the OL from Pittsburgh did not make it.  he was released by the program after one year, for "issues".  so coach P is not afraid to admit mistakes with these transfers, and cut ties with them if necessary.   and as fans, we have no idea how many potential transfers that Coach P turns away.  Bednarski and Kenner were recruited from their JCs to come to SB, they did not seek SB out.  Coach P must have thought he had an immediate or upcoming need for an experienced JC QB and RB a couple years ago, and they went out and recruited them.

One final note on this subject.  I reported last week watching the Sam Houston/Eastern WA game, that Sam Houston had picked up 10+ FBS transfers after spring ball this year.  all these guys were now starters on the Sam Houston roster.  SB does not do that crap.  that would indeed be demoralizing to the rest of the team.  I think SB strategically recruits transfers to the team, its not an epidemic like it is in other programs.

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Re: 2014: Game 1 - Bryant vs SBU 8/28
« Reply #67 on: August 30, 2014, 02:03:11 pm »
NDSU leading ISU at the half by 3.. These guys should just move up and out of the FCS already!!!

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Re: 2014: Game 1 - Bryant vs SBU 8/28
« Reply #68 on: August 30, 2014, 04:31:11 pm »
Game went badly. The thing that bothered me was we never sent more than two receivers out on routes.  Bryant doubled our WR's, stacked the box, and since our O-Line played terribly, we were hosed.  At no point did we have an offensive drive,

Bedell is very fast, but doesn't seem to have power/balance to avoid going down after first contact.

Bryant dropped at least 4 interceptions (possibly more).

Kinder has happy feet, and that sucks for us (I'm not going to rant about this, I did enough of that last year with Negron, so just go back to those posts.  Same complaints apply...)

Something that we were discussing were regarding the transfers.  In my opinion, they are "more talented athletes" than our organic players, but it also has to be acknowledged that if they were quality players, they would've been kept by their former teams.

Honestly, I really think that Priore did a wonderful job, and built the program extremely quickly.  But now we're experiencing the growing pains.  Not to be doom-and-gloom, but 5 years ago, I remember looking at Liberty and being amazed that we were playing a team with a possible All-American. Now we're competing in the top conference in the FCS, playing numerous ranked teams, and trying to build a permanent program.  I would never have expected us to be in this spot, so I really can't be overly upset that we are getting whooped.
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Re: 2014: Game 1 - Bryant vs SBU 8/28
« Reply #69 on: August 31, 2014, 04:29:27 pm »
jaghatai, I'm also not too upset about the loss even though losing to a NEC team ( a conference we left several years ago) does hurt a bit. The reality is that programs go up and down and its very hard to stay at the top all the time unless you are an elite program like NDSU. We will bounce back eventually and it may take a few years before we can legitly compete in the CAA... but losing to NEC teams doesn't help either

Just hoping for a good showing that makes us proud against Connecticut next week.

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Re: 2014: Game 1 - Bryant vs SBU 8/28
« Reply #70 on: September 01, 2014, 07:52:02 am »
Michael Bamiro tried out yesterday for the Green Bay Packers Practise squad....I hope he makes it... Nothing on Miguel maysonet, yet.. It's not looking good for him in the NFL!!!!!

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Re: 2014: Game 1 - Bryant vs SBU 8/28
« Reply #71 on: September 08, 2014, 02:32:19 pm »
Beating a dead horse, but Division II Merrimack put up more points against Bryant this Saturday, on Bryant's turf, than SBU did. This offense needs to get fixed, and fast.

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Re: 2014: Game 1 - Bryant vs SBU 8/28
« Reply #72 on: September 08, 2014, 04:33:09 pm »
QB is the engine that makes the rest of the Offense work.  without a playmaker at that position, your O will be one dimesional, or zero dimensional.  Bednarski shredded the UCONN D on that stellar drive for a TD.  you could see his hand offs and play action passing was much crisper than Kinder, we even generated a bit of a run game while he was under center.  if he can do that against UCONN, we are in good shape if we can get him in the game for a substantial portion of the game.

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Re: 2014: Game 1 - Bryant vs SBU 8/28
« Reply #73 on: September 09, 2014, 01:09:10 pm »
Ouch. that hurts. When a DII opponent can a figure a way to score more than us... something needs to be figured out before its too late
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