Author Topic: 2013: Game 11 - SBU vs Albany 11/23 - Empire Clash (Rivarly Week)  (Read 1054 times)

ecasadoSBU

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Sorry for that off topic post. I'm a bit under the weather I guess...

Attedance was poor. Not more than 4k. About 100 students in the endzone. Not what  I expected.

SBU and Albany continue to draw the same anemic crowd from the old NEC days
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I think this ending to the season bodes well for next year.  Considering the injury-plaugued season, once a few of the key players got back on their feet the team showed some muster and desire.  Just think, Tye, Kenner, Fredericks and Coker will be back, as will several excellent young defensemen.  Also, some real good freshman redshirted this year.  I'm encouraged.

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Don't forget  # 13  Levelle  he can fly when he gets the ball.    We will be ok  in 2014. Now who  is our QB going to be ?

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Don't forget  # 13  Levelle  he can fly when he gets the ball.    We will be ok  in 2014. Now who  is our QB going to be ?

I have two majors concerns for next year. One is the obvious, Quarterback.. I've been saying all season we need a double or triple option Q who can grow with the team, no more starting seniors who only play for one season..... Carlos Hernadez and Pat D'Amatto are unproven at this time.. AJ Otranto could be a quarterback to keep an eye on for next season This position is the key to next year success in the CAA..... The second major concern is the DB..... I know we have some young DB this year who were outplayed on many occasions.. If we can bring in some Juco or FBS transfers, that would shore up that breach in the defense. ..... Our DL and linebackers  got a A- this season.. They played real well with many RB being stuffed.. ON Offense, we lose some seniors on the left side. Lets hope we bring in some more big beef on that side, like Arthur Dokes...... TE,, What can I say we are sold with Will Tye coming back and Connor Davis will be a Sophomore,,,,With his height, 6'8" we are looking sweeeeeet ... I think in the RB position,  we are strong assuming Coker is ok to play, but we're very deep with Kenner, and Fredericks and Poteat recovering....At WR, we lose Malcom Eugene huge problem for us. Coxson is will be a senior next year but he was taken away by ambulance yesterday, condition unknown . Lets hope it's not a carrier ending injury. One or two Juco transfers with height could really help in this dept....
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sbugold

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Well, Hammer, I guess I'm just a little bit more optimistic than you are--here's some of the reasons why:

1) You've forgotten the most probable starting QB next year--Conor Bednarski; and I think he has the potential to be a really good one.
 2) You mention Coxson returning, but I believe Jahrie Level (who's displayed some great hands and speed in hi  limited action) is likely to really come into his own at WR.
3) Re: DBs, I'm still hopeful that Reuben Johnson and Davonte Anderson may be considered for medical redshirts this year based upon their season-ending injuries.  Also, there are some pretty good freshman coming up--at LB also.

All that being said, you know that Priore is going to come up with a few terrific transfers.  He always does.

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Gold, I agree with you assessment of the QB prospects.  Bednarski arrived last January with more than 20 college games under his belt at the JUCO level.  he redshirted this season and must be the front runner for next season.  I understand we open the season in Cincinnati, who are 9-2 right now.  I think we will need a solid kid under center next year as we open up on the road with a very tough game.

Hammer:  Coach P does not need a double or triple option QB, we don't run that kind of offense.  we need a kid that can complete 60-70% of his pass attempts, while keeping the defenses honest by being able to throw the ball down field when needed.  While Negron was a warrior this season, he was wildly inconsistent.  we need consistent play out of the QB position next year to be successful. 

On the subject of SB offense schemes, I listened to the webcast of the game yesterday, and the color announcer kept mentioning how Coach P's main offensive approach is the ground and pound running attack.  I wonder if he has been reading this board, and our hopes that the offense will be opened up a bit in the future, and move away from the traditional Old School Running Game that Coach P loves. 

Here's to SB lining up some nice non-conference games for next season.  I still think a home/home with Sam Houston State would be sweet, along with some quality local foes like Leghie (sp)

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Hammer:  Coach P does not need a double or triple option QB, we don't run that kind of offense.  we need a kid that can complete 60-70% of his pass attempts, while keeping the defenses honest by being able to throw the ball down field when needed.  While Negron was a warrior this season, he was wildly inconsistent.  we need consistent play out of the QB position next year to be successful.

BFF. I agree and know Priore does not run that type of offense, and why is that. It's because he never had to. Stepping up to the CAA as we are all aware now, is extremely tough. Teaching or recruiting a Quarterback to be a double option player only adds to the diversity that is needed in this league.. Why do you think all the TV announcer say " Ground and pound" It's because we did that for years and everybody knows that and it worked very well in the BS but, in the CAA and against some FBS schools you need to have a 52  deck of cards at your disposal if the ground and pound isin't working.....Having another bullet in the chamber is a good thing in a gunfight !!!!!

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   Hopefully   we get one of the new guys to play at QB  Bednarski would be ideal. Also  need offensive lineman, linebackers and  defensive backs.    Let a new guy  develop into the  QB spot rather than lose him after one season.  Even in the NFL it takes awhile to develop a good seasoned QB.   OOC teams would love a home and away  with Lehigh. Sam Houston St or even a Citadel or Furman. All  are solid programs.   Well now onto hoops then  lax and baseball. waiting to see who we sign  for football though.

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Don't forget Carlos Hernandez he has good field of vision & make quick reads & he usually gets rid of the ball within 2 to 2 1/2 seconds.

How about the play of the TE Connor; he hasn't played DE since August 2012. He was able to put pressure on the QB several times & 1 sack.

They needed players to step up n help at hey positions.

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ecasadoSBU:  I meant to respond to your post from yesterday sooner.  I feel your pain as you move on from the student section to the sideline seats.  I guess that is a stage of life.  sounds like the weather, the small crowd and the rather meaningless game (in terms of a playoff run), make the malaise all the greater.  lost of good SBU sports ahead this winter and before you know it, it will be time for spring football 2014 once again.

hopefully games against the likes of Bryant and Colgate are things of the past.  we have Albany and Rhody as the patsies of the CAA, that is enough "easy" games in the season schedule.

one more note:  I got an email from the SB Athletics Dept yesterday regarding the internet video feed.  they said they plan to upgrade the quality of the internet feed for next season.  that will be a big plus for those of us that cant travel to the home games.

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 The Albany playoff gm 2 yrs ago drew almost a sellout crowd, so like it was said bad weather and meaningless gm played into attendance. As for DB's Davonte Anderson will get the redshirt cause he was hurt in the summer, Reuben Johnson is a wait and see. With Kenner and Coker coming back don't be surprised if Fredericks get's the redshirt next yr cause that was supposed to happen this yr. The DL will be good again with all the returning guy's and add Cammara and Singleton to that. Conner Davis looked good on the DL so maybe he stays there, that's were they had him slated when he got here. As for LB watch out for John Haggert who will be a major force next year. As for QB it looks like it will be wide open, Bednarski has ability to run with his big arm. Maybe D'Amato goes full time WR, there had to be a reason that they kept putting an injured Negron out there. With an expanded roll for Tye there might not be a need for the top WR next yr. I know I am getting ahead of myself but watch out for incoming freshman Jake Carlock from Babylon at WR, he has the size 6'2" 210 the speed and hands to contribute right away ( one of the best players I have seen on the island in the last couple of yrs ). Check out optimum ch 614 and you can watch some of his gms. Injuries were the story, this team had 2nd half leads against Towson and led Main late in the fourth. They played with everyone except Villanova so I would say that there doesn't need to be major changes on how they play Football. As for opponents next year with the tough CAA schedule an FBS gm or two, you will still see a lighter non conference schedule cause you still need a good win lose record to make the playoffs.

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Connor Davis might be one of those players you could use on both sides of the ball; he has great size, speed & hands for TE. I notice on film he was wide open at times; you could use Tye as decoy & have a 2nd TE release late & be wide open. Then the D would half to play man up & give Tye more open looks.

Having 2 TE with good speed & size is a huge plus in the passing game. Short passing route will open up the deep threat.

At DE he would be good for a 3rd down pass rusher.

I am looking forward to next year; any work on Coxson.