Author Topic: 2012-2020: Future of SBU Football - Conference Affiliation, FBS Football, etc  (Read 25893 times)

Chrissy D.

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 They do move the later gms in the fall to afternoon starts. Youth football leagues are usually finished by then so you get those people to attend. As far as cold weather late in the yr I went to the Sachem v Farmingdale gm in late Nov last yr at Lavalle and that drew like 4,500. If the product is good people will show up.

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Good argument for not going FBS from the JMU perspective. I think it applies to SBU as well

http://augustafreepress.com/jmu-nation-wants-fbs-whether-makes-sense/

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Good argument for not going FBS from the JMU perspective. I think it applies to SBU as well

http://augustafreepress.com/jmu-nation-wants-fbs-whether-makes-sense/

I wholeheartedly agree.  I would much rather see the Seawolves succeed at making their presence in the CAA felt as a perennial conference championship contender and FCS champion threat.  The Albany rivalry  is a strong one, and I'd like to see another like it develop over the next few year (perhaps Delaware?).  If that happens the fan base will continue to grow and SBU's notariety and stadium capacity along with it!!

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we have to get more students in the stands for the home games, especially if we want to have a chance to move up to FBS at some point in the future.  was at the JMU game and was very disappointed with the studen turnout. practically no students.  this was a big game for SB football, and there should have been more students at game.  not sure if they too busy with school, commuter school so kids go home on the weekends, upcoming holiday on tuesday so kids took a long weekend away from campus.  we did get great turnout for the Bryant game and the WM homecoming game, but since we lost both games, I am sure that did not inspire kids to come back for the JMU game

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yeah i noticed that on the webcast.  ive been going on and on about this in the other threads. http://sbufan.createaforum.com/around-stony-brook/making-sb-better-idea-thread/

from a different angle- they've come a LONG way.  i cant believe what attendance used to look like only 15 years ago.  and bball?  wow, what a difference.  yet, other than the band, not many students in the cold weather football games. 
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I don't know what to say. Attendance average is up. For its definitely not enough. I was part of the 150 students in the red zone this past saturday. it sucked. A school of 24,500 kids should be able to fill a 4,000 student section easily. But its not that easy in the Northeast, and factor the fact that they are not winning and didn't impress the students early on with the two losses. With that said, season attendance is up largely due to the opener and homecoming but its still good to know that there is an upward trend for the 7th straight year. As it stands right now we average a 7523 fans/game

We all know the cure. Win games and you will create a following. We had it going for the past couple of years but this past two seasons are a set back
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in my mind, the weather was not an issue this weekend.  it was a perfect fall day for football, at game time the sun was out, and sitting in the stands was fantastic.  not sure what better weather you could ask for in a Fall game.  its not the Southwest afterall, its Long Island.  I'm from the West Coast and loved the Fall weather.  I saw that Wolfie was around campus mid week trying to get the kids excited about the game, guess that did not work.  How about holding a rally on Friday to get kids and the campus excited about the upcoming game?  maybe that's done already....  I thought the local community did their part to show up to the game, the missing ingredient was the student fan base, very weak.

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The community is definitely growing which is a good thing. I guess in Stony Brook we going to have to do things backwards. Hype up the community, make the fill the stadium and then maybe the students will show up. Most students don't show up because of the "No one goes mentality" so I think SBU is doing a great job marketing to the immediate community so the can show up to the game with their children, etc.

Its gonna take a lot of time and effort.... and we going to have to win consistently for several years if we want more people to show up. Its not easy to draw in the Long Island area. Students have a lot of options (Going home, NYC for the day, etc) and we going to have to compete for their time. It would've been nice if we had four winning seasons straight like 2011/12... Look at Coastal Carolina. Their attendance is booming with sellouts for every game...
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I hear you, winning is the easy way to fix things.  My hats off to Coastal Carolina, but if we'd stayed in the Big South, maybe we'd be undefeated this year too.  but we moved up, and we are playing big boy FCS football now.  and I guess we are struggling with that transition. 

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i wouldve agreed- but CCU is atop the rankings.

now you and i and everyone here knows that their competition isnt all that great, as compared to the CAA- but then again, does it matter?  they are in the top 3 in both polls!!!
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Student turnout was pathetic. The administration needs to do something to improve that- I don't know if the RAs need to be aggressive with it but there were like 70 students total in the student section. Yes I know there are a lot of commuters but there have to be more kids still on campus. To be fair, even big schools have trouble filling student sections but those are schools that charge students for tickets. What excuse do Stony Brook students have? Pretty pathetic.

On the other hand, the community involvement with the team is awesome. Its backwards but the community attendance is amazing.

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Student turnout was pathetic. The administration needs to do something to improve that- I don't know if the RAs need to be aggressive with it but there were like 70 students total in the student section. Yes I know there are a lot of commuters but there have to be more kids still on campus. To be fair, even big schools have trouble filling student sections but those are schools that charge students for tickets. What excuse do Stony Brook students have? Pretty pathetic.

On the other hand, the community involvement with the team is awesome. Its backwards but the community attendance is amazing.

That's if you count the 10 or so alumnus that were in the student section. We still feel the need to be "Students" to incubate a following. I wonder how long will it take before I can actually graduate from the Red Zone and be able to use my chairback in SEC 103. We really try hard to pump of the current students. But its not easy. Apathy is a serious problem. Kids think they are too good for college football, that "Stony Brook is not a football school" and doesn't deserve support. It sucks but hopefully one day in the future we can sell out LaValle consistently...
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I hear you, winning is the easy way to fix things.  My hats off to Coastal Carolina, but if we'd stayed in the Big South, maybe we'd be undefeated this year too.  but we moved up, and we are playing big boy FCS football now.  and I guess we are struggling with that transition. 

I saw the latest FCS Coaches' poll in the newspaper this morning.  UNH is #2 and Bryant is in at #21, with only a single loss!!  Oh, what could have (SHOULD have) been.

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disaffected student body is of course a problem at a lot of universities- but at SB, its a slightly different problem.  most of the time, schools cant get the kids out of the dorms and over to the stadium.  while SB has that issue (over 10k kids on campus!), the larger issue that needs to be addressed is are they even on campus on a saturday.

if you tear up the roots of the problem, other solutions will follow.
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how would you like to be a Sam Houston State fan, they are not even ranked, got two votes in the FCS coaches poll.  what a drop from past years for that program.  and they brought in a bunch of FBS transfers this summer to fill out their roster, thought they'd be a juggernaut with that loaded line up, but it did not work.

We need to try and turn SB into a "football" school.  change the paradigm with the students so they want to attend the games.  not sure how that is done.  winning is one way, but there have to be other ways to do it to.  I agree with others on this blog that the local community is stepping up and attending the games.  also, player families drive hundreds of miles to attend the games, even if their sons are back up players. 

Was in the area this past weekend with friends, and was commenting to them that some of the local sports bars, not just The Bench, should be made into SB Football hangouts.  A place like Miller Ale House would be a perfect sponsor of the team.  there must be many others out there.  and I know there are SBU supporters out there that are willing to extend themselves to promote the school and the football program.  these "volunteers" should be embraced by the school and leveraged in a way to "spread the word" about SBU football.  grass roots style.