Author Topic: 2012-2020: Future of SBU Football - Conference Affiliation, FBS Football, etc  (Read 13907 times)

Hammertime

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Elon U. announced it is moving from the Southern Conference to the CAA in 2014. Elon has been a Top 25 FCS team recently, though perhaps not for the last couple of years.


With the addition of Elon U, would that be considered a plus for the CAA or negative !!!

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I'd say a plus. They sucked last season but have been ranked in the top 15 a few years ago.


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This board is experiencing the summer time Doldrums so, I thought posting a video would be a little uplifting. See you guys in September !!!

http://www.caasports.com/mediaPortal/player.dbml?db_oem_id=8500&id=2553505&catid=41010

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tough times here. Very little to talk about but the excitement is there. We are all looking forward to the next athletic season!!!
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wasnt quite sure where to file this one. but its an interesting read about the potential future of college football, from the perspective of Malcom Gladwell, author of Blink and other such books.

http://www.slate.com/articles/sports/intelligence_squared/2012/04/the_next_slate_intelligence_squared_debate_is_may_8_why_malcolm_gladwell_thinks_we_should_ban_college_football_.html

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Gladwell is the ultimate beta-male.  A loser that was never competitive at anything, and by his own words, regularly advises surrender rather than fight.  He is a poor writer and his theories have more holes (again by his own admission) than a mesh jersey.  His entire premise of being born in January and all that nonsense doesnt even pass a laugh test.  What an a55-clown.
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 I have to agree with the chairman, this dude is a hack.

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Really interesting blog post about CAA expansion. Important to note that Yeager wanted Stony Brook more than Albany (suck it Danes) but Hofstra's president didn't take kindly to that suggestion. I don't really care. I'm pretty happy with where SBU is right now, but it's interesting.

http://shadesof48.com/?p=365

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danger in rushing FBS http://ajerseyguy.com/?p=7396

We can learn a lot from keep studying what Umass is doing and not make the same mistakes. Playing far from campus to meet FBS attendance requirement is really hurting them.

New England in general not a college football followers. There are only two notable FBS in the region UConn and BC. Even they are not widely followed and not powerhouse in college football. We have to make sure we dont turn into Buffalo or Umass if ever decide to play FBS.

ODU on the other hand transitioned so quickly that its remarkable. But one thing they had on there side is that the area had no pro sports or college football. Now they are expanding their stadium to 30k capacity!

We need to wait and see what Delaware does. They have the support and facilities for FBS move but will they? Are they ready to trade from being FCS power to FBS mediocre?
« Last Edit: August 21, 2013, 03:23:07 pm by iBOsbu »

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ibosbu.. The problem with SB Football is simple. Attendance. SB is not even close to considering a move to the FBS unless they get the Attendance up to a max house, and thats only around 10,000. 15,000 is the ultimate minimum attendance the NCAA is looking for to be considered a candidate for an FBS member. We just arent there yet .. Lets see how this year pans out with the move to the CAA. Hopefully we can pack the house on every home game ..

Does anyone know how many fans on average went to Hofstra home games.??? That should be a gauge on how many fans we get for this year. I know one thing.. I recruited 13 family members this season to buy season tickets to Football !!!!!!

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13 season tickets! :) amazing

And yes agree attendance is the biggest issue. But we need at least 15k sell out few seasons before moving to FBS. Even if the minimum is 10k, that wont give us profit with additional cost at FBS level to sustain the program.

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agreed with you guys, and ill state that you are the solution to the problem- fans who attend games AND get others involved.

with that said, the low attendance is surely a downer, BUT, looking at where its come from in the 10 years alone is very encouraging.  add in the stadium, new conference, better football, exciting players, high profile transfers, better coaching staff, new facilities, media deals, and of course no Hofstra, our attendance will only go UP UP AND UP!!!

GO SB!!!
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Hofstra was very average for how well they performed most seasons. Mostly mid-pack among FCS schools in attendance:

http://www.ncaa.org/wps/wcm/connect/public/NCAA/Resources/Stats/Football/Attendance/

Since you've already reached and surpassed Hofstra's former averages, and had a contest with 10K+, you can look beyond that comparison. If you look to UB's 1-AA years you're ahead in many ways but behind in attendance and SOS. UB went from D-3 in 1992 to 1-AA in '93, straight to playing the likes of Maine, YSU, JMU, and Ill St. The results were often rough but we had great crowds of 10k-12K for many games.  We then had over 15k season tickets sold for our final 1-AA season. The jump to CAA opponents will tell a lot about your fan base.

You have gone a proper steady route to grow toward the CAA and beyond. Once UB succeeded in leading the push to overturn the SUNY scholarship ban the stated goal was returning to the highest level of football. That cost us in football, where the old Yankee and Gateway leagues would not take us. And in other sports the then NAC (now AE) always rejected our applications. By '95 the MAC happened to be led by a commish who was a former UB FB assistant and they unanimous accepted us. Going from the Mid-Con to the MAC in basketball was tough enough but FBS was a big challenge that took us many years of sorting out the proper AD and coaching. We were barely mid-level FCS in talent those first few years and it took hiring Warde Manuel as AD and Turner Gill to finally develop a culture of success.