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A rather damning piece was published today as the season review offers a bleak outlook.

"At least 10 players who had previously announced publicly they held offers from Stony Brook, have decided to go elsewhere."

"Roane butted heads with the coaching staff and is looking for a fresh start, while the reasons for Indelicato’s departure are unknown."

"The Seawolves still need to pick up their recruiting efforts... James Madison and Richmond had already picked at least eight commitments as of September, with Richmond having 11."

"Stony Brook will have to decide soon whether they want to continue on the course to nowhere with their current regime, or part ways with Priore."

https://www.sbstatesman.com/2019/12/05/long-winter-is-coming-for-seawolves/

Found this "old" gem on here. Who knew back then that SBU wouldn't see the field for another year and a quarter. But damn that ending is spot on, "Winter is coming to Stony Brook, and it may be a harsh one."

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Chuck has lost it. Time to move on. At the very least we ought to be able to hire an up and coming coordinator from another successful team here to LI to right the ship. This is ridiculous.

Also, watch attendance jump once people realize we won't be playing the boring brand of Priore football anymore.

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Chuck has lost it. Time to move on. At the very least we ought to be able to hire an up and coming coordinator from another successful team here to LI to right the ship. This is ridiculous.

Also, watch attendance jump once people realize we won't be playing the boring brand of Priore football anymore.

Little Chucky lost it a long time ago. The only reason SB did well when they were in the Big South is because of the departure of the Hofstra football team. Miguel Maysonet, Brock, and a few other really good players transferred into SB. Once they departed little Chuck had to rely on recruiting and recruiting top talent players out of HS is not what he is good at doing. Some good Grad Transfers come to SB for education seasons, not because they want to play for Chucky. Or some come here because they want to be close to home and family, again not because they want to play for Coach P. I've spoken to Chucky several times in the beginning years of following football, and I must tell you. He is an $ss hole in every aspect. He does not know how to interact with fans and people in his community. If it weren't for us, there would be no football team.

We all know NYS is broke because of Cuomo's mismanagement of funds and poor decisions. To think this university has extra money to dump Chucky, pay off his contract, and find a really good HC is ridiculous. It won't happen. Why did SBU extend Coach P contract two years ago? they did that so they don't have to worry about paying money for a national search to find a new coach.  This football team is toast for years to come.
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Big news this week as far as FCS conference realignment. The more pressing one is the WAC grabbing four Texas schools from the Southland and starting up an FCS league of their own. That will lead to another FCS auto-bid to the playoff with one less at-large spot up for grabs, but the bigger news that will impact SBU is linked below. The Central Arkansas AD says that the ASUN is going to start sponsoring an FCS football league with the intention of moving the whole conference up to FBS. This was rumored a few years ago when the ASUN said they were going to expand and then split-off into separate conferences. Link below (relevant piece at 39:30):




If SH doesn't have us and SBU in on this, he has failed us as an Athletic Director and our new president isn't as pro sports as we were led to believe having come from Texas. We NEED to get into this. I don't give a damn about the "what about attendance we don't have the money" crap. We NEED to move NOW!! Liberty, Coastal Carolina, and upstate rival Buffalo all just finished the season ranked in the FBS. It's time to ditch this small time barely scrape five wins FCS BULLSHIT and move up. If SH doesn't get SBU in on this, he's all talk. Let's do it guys.

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to make sure i have this right- is the idea that SBU could have a future in this new ASUN, which i presume means replacing the other spots with northeast schools, because its doubtful we fly the team and staff to texas 5 times a year.
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to make sure i have this right- is the idea that SBU could have a future in this new ASUN, which i presume means replacing the other spots with northeast schools, because its doubtful we fly the team and staff to texas 5 times a year.

ASUN football will be all over the place. The UCA is in Arkansas, North Alabama is in Alabama, Kennesaw State is in Georgia, and those are the only three known teams that will comprise the six-team minimum to qualify for an auto-bid.

According to the article linked below, "(Central Arkansas athletic director Brad) Teague declined to name the other three schools, but it's believed Jacksonville State and Eastern Kentucky of the Ohio Valley Conference are two of them." Jacksonville State is Florida and Eastern Kentucky is Kentucky, obviously. Geographically SBU would have to fly every time they played on the road. Currently, they only fly to Richmond, JMU, Elon, and W&M. For an athletic department that is desperate for cash, constantly flying is a terrible decision.

Now if ASUN truly has FBS aspirations, which they shouldn't, as none of the aforementioned teams, IMO, are good enough for FBS and would lose to even the worst FBS squads, then SBU joining them wouldn't be the worst decision. In the short term Stony Brook would 100% take a loss, as the travel costs alone would destroy them. BUT, the profits down the road from joining the FBS would be immense, even for the lowest teams. It's something that requires, weeks and months of thought and planning.

I'm told by somebody who started hearing ASUN rumblings 6 months ago, no CAA teams have been approached, or would consider a move to ASUN.

https://www.inforum.com/bison-media-zone/mens-sports/football/6842473-McFeely-blog-Central-Arkansas-joins-new-Atlantic-Sun-football-conference-hopes-to-be-FBS-soon

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Big news this week as far as FCS conference realignment. The more pressing one is the WAC grabbing four Texas schools from the Southland and starting up an FCS league of their own. That will lead to another FCS auto-bid to the playoff with one less at-large spot up for grabs, but the bigger news that will impact SBU is linked below. The Central Arkansas AD says that the ASUN is going to start sponsoring an FCS football league with the intention of moving the whole conference up to FBS. This was rumored a few years ago when the ASUN said they were going to expand and then split-off into separate conferences. Link below (relevant piece at 39:30):




If SH doesn't have us and SBU in on this, he has failed us as an Athletic Director and our new president isn't as pro sports as we were led to believe having come from Texas. We NEED to get into this. I don't give a damn about the "what about attendance we don't have the money" crap. We NEED to move NOW!! Liberty, Coastal Carolina, and upstate rival Buffalo all just finished the season ranked in the FBS. It's time to ditch this small time barely scrape five wins FCS BULLSHIT and move up. If SH doesn't get SBU in on this, he's all talk. Let's do it guys.

It might not hurt if you contact SH with your proposals. I am quite certain he knows all too well about this move, but he is being very muted lately, and nothing he's tweeting or hinting is conference related.

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to make sure i have this right- is the idea that SBU could have a future in this new ASUN, which i presume means replacing the other spots with northeast schools, because its doubtful we fly the team and staff to texas 5 times a year.

ASUN football will be all over the place. The UCA is in Arkansas, North Alabama is in Alabama, Kennesaw State is in Georgia, and those are the only three known teams that will comprise the six-team minimum to qualify for an auto-bid.

According to the article linked below, "(Central Arkansas athletic director Brad) Teague declined to name the other three schools, but it's believed Jacksonville State and Eastern Kentucky of the Ohio Valley Conference are two of them." Jacksonville State is Florida and Eastern Kentucky is Kentucky, obviously. Geographically SBU would have to fly every time they played on the road. Currently, they only fly to Richmond, JMU, Elon, and W&M. For an athletic department that is desperate for cash, constantly flying is a terrible decision.

Now if ASUN truly has FBS aspirations, which they shouldn't, as none of the aforementioned teams, IMO, are good enough for FBS and would lose to even the worst FBS squads, then SBU joining them wouldn't be the worst decision. In the short term Stony Brook would 100% take a loss, as the travel costs alone would destroy them. BUT, the profits down the road from joining the FBS would be immense, even for the lowest teams. It's something that requires, weeks and months of thought and planning.

I'm told by somebody who started hearing ASUN rumblings 6 months ago, no CAA teams have been approached, or would consider a move to ASUN.

https://www.inforum.com/bison-media-zone/mens-sports/football/6842473-McFeely-blog-Central-Arkansas-joins-new-Atlantic-Sun-football-conference-hopes-to-be-FBS-soon

I like your thinking about SB looking at big profits down the road and not immediately. The problem here is. You are dealing with a SUNY school controlled by one person. King Cuomo. Cuomo made it very clear a few years ago that he could care less about sports. And that is evident with no ( high impact) sport in High Scholl being played in NY, and with millions of Dollars Cuomo took away from SBU Athletic dept when the science dept didn't pan out. Props to Fiore for trying.. One other thing I notice happens with SBU. What SB does, UA must do as well. These two institutions apparently move in tandem. So, if SH has high aspirations of moving this school Football team to the A-Sun Conference, Albany would have to do the same. Just my observation..

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Given the state of the national economy, the state of NY economy, the current health crisis, and the fact that other ASUN schools are miles away, no way this happens for SBU now.  However, the concept of banding together in unison with a prospect of an enmasse-FBS move, is an interesting idea.  Power in #'s.  Not sure it's the right time for this, but maybe a similar venture in the northeast when the timing is better?
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I think that the ASUN could potentially be an FBS conference. Just not with the schools it’s planning on doing it with. Pretty far-fetched to think that the schools they named could make it as FBS.

Also, we can leave Albany behind. I hope they don’t try to mimic everything we do, they’re not even close to us as an actual academic Institution.

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With the currently rumored schools the travel would be tough, however if you can convince Umass, and Uconn to join so they have a football home, and JMU finally moves up to FBS into this conference with Liberty already being there it doesn't look so far fetched for SBU anymore. Add in Delaware and you have a very logical divisional alignment.

ASUN North:
Umass
Uconn
Stony Brook
Delaware
JMU
Liberty

ASUN South:
Central Arkansas
Kennesaw State
North Alabama
Jacksonville State
Eastern Kentucky
North Carolina A&T

Bit of a hodgepodge of schools institutionally, but it gets us into FBS and could lead to an even more favorable geographically aligned conference down the road. Plenty of quality football in both divisions too. Jacksonville State, Kennesaw State, and NC A&T have had very good teams in recent years and we know what JMU and Liberty have done recently. If EKU and NC A&T stay FCS, then you can have a nice 10 team conference by putting Liberty in the south division. If SH has "big time" aspirations for SBU he needs to either get us into the A10, or help spearhead something like this for football.   
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Years ago Cuomo banned any NYS School from traveling to NC I don’t believe he has lifted that ban it has something to do with transgender issues

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With the currently rumored schools the travel would be tough, however if you can convince Umass, and Uconn to join so they have a football home, and JMU finally moves up to FBS into this conference with Liberty already being there it doesn't look so far fetched for SBU anymore. Add in Delaware and you have a very logical divisional alignment.

ASUN North:
Umass
Uconn
Stony Brook
Delaware
JMU
Liberty

ASUN South:
Central Arkansas
Kennesaw State
North Alabama
Jacksonville State
Eastern Kentucky
North Carolina A&T

Bit of a hodgepodge of schools institutionally, but it gets us into FBS and could lead to an even more favorable geographically aligned conference down the road. Plenty of quality football in both divisions too. Jacksonville State, Kennesaw State, and NC A&T have had very good teams in recent years and we know what JMU and Liberty have done recently. If EKU and NC A&T stay FCS, then you can have a nice 10 team conference by putting Liberty in the south division. If SH has "big time" aspirations for SBU he needs to either get us into the A10, or help spearhead something like this for football.

There's a lot of moving parts here, and that's a bit of an understatement, but who knows, never say never. Talent-wise, the North division trumps the South by a lot. Liberty would be the clear favorite to win every season until JMU caught up with the help of FBS money and expanding Bridgeforth even more. UConn would do wonders once they fired Edsall and who knows, UMass might actually do something right finally. SBU could find itself fighting with Delaware to stay out of last place in that division... As it's pointed out every few messages by literally everyone: SBU will not, and cannot, become FBS until they get money. The stadium needs upgrading in numerous ways from the number of seats to concessions, locker rooms, bigger (and better) press box, more spaces for parking due to more seating, which means more security and stadium staff. It would definitely introduce more jobs and put more money back into the local economy. If only someone did a write up of all of this and proposed it to Cuomo, because SBU has never proposed this to him. Yes, he stopped funds from going to upgrading the stadium, but even then, they did not detail and outline a move to FBS and the increase in jobs and the propping up of the local economy.

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drove by bridgeforth today.  if you dont think that university will be FBS in the next few years, you got another thing coming.
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drove by bridgeforth today.  if you dont think that university will be FBS in the next few years, you got another thing coming.

The JMU AD, who by all accounts is a real piece of ****, has made it clear they intend on becoming an FBS school sooner, rather than later.