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Re: Pikiell Gone to Rutgers.. now what???
« Reply #60 on: April 09, 2016, 03:16:29 pm »
Much discussion on the AE boards about our new coach. Personally I think we got a good one. Lets see who he brings in as his assistants and give the man a chance. I think even if coach P were here this coming season would be iffy at best . But who knows 20 wins is possible.

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Re: Pikiell Gone to Rutgers.. now what???
« Reply #61 on: April 09, 2016, 03:29:35 pm »
Much discussion on the AE boards about our new coach. Personally I think we got a good one. Lets see who he brings in as his assistants and give the man a chance. I think even if coach P were here this coming season would be iffy at best . But who knows 20 wins is possible.

Agreed. lots of people on other Forums are already calling for Heilbron head and thinks he made a huge mistake. I say give the man a chance to prove him self. Hopefuly he does bring in some Ohio region talents to the East coast..

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Re: Pikiell Gone to Rutgers.. now what???
« Reply #62 on: April 09, 2016, 03:33:14 pm »
on what grounds???
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Re: Pikiell Gone to Rutgers.. now what???
« Reply #64 on: April 09, 2016, 06:42:16 pm »
Ranked as the #16 assistant coach in the nation by ESPN
Comes from a top-level Power-5 program
Years of experience as an assistant
Key part of recruiting at tOSU
Praised by multiple NBA talents (Jared Sullinger, Evan Turner, D'Angelo Russell)
Defensive-minded coach

This is nothing short of a home-run for the program. Coach Pikiell got us to the point where a candidate like this would even consider our program and for that we should all be thankful. I think he's going to do a great job here and its really a steal for the university and the America East. Again, just mindblowing that a coach with this pedigree is coming here. Obviously everyone is entitled to their opinion. I have a hard time rationalizing criticism for this move other than sentimental attachment to Jay Young. I think he did a great job with Coach Pikiell but, for me, as an ~10 year supporter of SBU Hoops this was a no-brainer decision.

Kudos to Shawn for another excellent move. He's really gone above and beyond my expectations as an AD and has made Stony Brook a nationally relevant job.
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Re: Pikiell Gone to Rutgers.. now what???
« Reply #65 on: April 09, 2016, 06:49:24 pm »
Ranked as the #16 assistant coach in the nation by ESPN
Comes from a top-level Power-5 program
Years of experience as an assistant
Key part of recruiting at tOSU
Praised by multiple NBA talents (Jared Sullinger, Evan Turner, D'Angelo Russell)
Defensive-minded coach

This is nothing short of a home-run for the program. Coach Pikiell got us to the point where a candidate like this would even consider our program and for that we should all be thankful. I think he's going to do a great job here and its really a steal for the university and the America East. Again, just mindblowing that a coach with this pedigree is coming here. Obviously everyone is entitled to their opinion. I have a hard time rationalizing criticism for this move other than sentimental attachment to Jay Young. I think he did a great job with Coach Pikiell but, for me, as an ~10 year supporter of SBU Hoops this was a no-brainer decision.

Kudos to Shawn for another excellent move. He's really gone above and beyond my expectations as an AD and has made Stony Brook a nationally relevant job.
Ditto MD. I think Shawn made the right move. It was my understand Shawn tried hard to get Villanova Assistant, Baker Dunleavy but he turned us down. i still think We did good by attracting a power 5 coach to the AE.. Give the man some time and we will soon be back into the NCAA!!

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Re: Pikiell Gone to Rutgers.. now what???
« Reply #66 on: December 23, 2016, 07:17:32 pm »
Watching Rutgers vs Seton Hall on FS1. Very bitter sweet. On one hand miss him on the side line, but wish him all the success. He was nothing but a class.

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« Reply #67 on: January 05, 2017, 12:37:40 pm »
Pikiell and Rutgers are having a rough time against any half-way decent team. Here thelosing results over the last four games:
Seton Hall 72-61
Wisconsin 72-52
Penn State 60-47
Michigan State 93-65

I guess clapping your hands for 40 minutes isn't the best strategy in winning games in the Big10? 😄

Based on the circumstances, Boales is so far having a much better season than Pikiell!

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« Reply #68 on: January 05, 2017, 05:44:52 pm »
Yeah he's going to have a tough time in the Big Ten. That team just doesn't have a lot of Big10 level athletes. Corey Sanders is probably the only one that would be starting on other B10 teams.

The team is obviously better than last year but that's not saying much...Coach Pikiell has got his work cut out for him.

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« Reply #69 on: March 09, 2017, 12:14:05 pm »
Great win for Coach Pikiell and Rutgers at B10 tourney opening. In one year he has already made tremendous positive influence to their rock bottom basketball program. Besides Stony Brook, I also follow Maryland basketball. And now with Pikiell at Rutgers, B10 has become a very intriguing league to follow for me. Wish Coach Pikiell all the best. He was nothing but a class act at Stony Brook and gave 110% here.

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« Reply #70 on: March 09, 2017, 04:30:00 pm »
Very close to .500 season, Rutgers first ever win in the Big 10 Tournament, the first time a 14 seed has ever won in the Big 10 Tournament.  Pikiell has had a much better year than Boal's now.  Pikiell is one of the hottest coaches in the country.  What he has done with Rutgers in year 1 is miraculous.  In fact, if he wasn't still in his very first year, I guarantee they would extend him.  Boals did great with Pikiell's players and Pikiell did great with Eddie Jordan's.  Now the question for both is - can they win at their new place with their own players?  By the way - I am very much in the camp of they can and will.

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« Reply #71 on: March 09, 2017, 04:54:27 pm »
Very close to .500 season, Rutgers first ever win in the Big 10 Tournament, the first time a 14 seed has ever won in the Big 10 Tournament.  Pikiell has had a much better year than Boal's now.  Pikiell is one of the hottest coaches in the country.  What he has done with Rutgers in year 1 is miraculous.  In fact, if he wasn't still in his very first year, I guarantee they would extend him.  Boals did great with Pikiell's players and Pikiell did great with Eddie Jordan's.  Now the question for both is - can they win at their new place with their own players?  By the way - I am very much in the camp of they can and will.

Much better year? Who here expected a 2 seed? We were picked to finish 7th. Rutgers definitely made some strides and the arrow's pointing up, but Boals got every last bit out of this group.
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« Reply #72 on: March 10, 2017, 07:57:26 am »
From a personal standpoint Pikiell absolutely had a much better year.  He is in the top 4 of the hottest coaches in the country!  Boals did fine, but SBU had its worst season in six years.  As far as expectations - that was a coaches vote and the new guy always gets the shaft.  That vote is all politics.

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« Reply #73 on: March 10, 2017, 09:50:49 am »
From a personal standpoint Pikiell absolutely had a much better year.  He is in the top 4 of the hottest coaches in the country!  Boals did fine, but SBU had its worst season in six years.  As far as expectations - that was a coaches vote and the new guy always gets the shaft.  That vote is all politics.

The new guy may get slighted in that kind of poll, but do you think it could also be because, you know, we lost our top four scorers and a three-time conference player of the year? I realize Pikiell took over a brutal program but he won nine conference games in his first three years combined and then, to his credit, the program vaulted into a stratosphere we didn't know existed. He left when he knew it wasn't going to get any better. Boals and Co. did much better than "fine." Who saw 12-4 coming? I thought maybe 4-12! Hammer predicted eight wins for the year! A much better year? No.

The hottest coach thing just isn't true. Rutgers had a very good year by their standards and checked off a lot of firsts, but few are talking about Rutgers outside of the northeast.
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Re: Pikiell Gone to Rutgers.. now what???
« Reply #74 on: March 10, 2017, 10:01:50 am »
This is an interesting debate. I think Pikiell has done a great job, but not sure if he had a better year than Boals.

If you look at Pikiell's 1st year achievement with glass half full lense, then yes... Rutgers won 3 games in conference regular season. They had 2 and 1 conference wins last two years. Lots of close games this year and team showed real fight, competitiveness, improved defense, better rebounding and unity. But, if you look at it with glass half empty lense, Rutgers only won 3 conference regular season games and last in B10 standing again. Their total wins look inflated due to cupcake non-conference schedule for a B10 team. Rutgers did not exceed expectation in B10 standing.

On the other hand, Boals inherited a team without top 4 (double digit average) scorers from last year. Forget coaches pick, you and me, regular fans couldn't have predicted a 12-4 record, 2nd in AE standing. Most of us would have been happy with a 8-8 record. But to actually host two tournament games at home, was beyond most of ours expectation.

But again, each one of us will look through our biased lenses. Boals and Pikiell are in different league now and should have to be judged differently.

One thing for sure, for any of them to have a chance to succeed in AE or B10, they better up their recruiting game. Next couple years will tell, who is more successful.