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Re: Looking ahead to 2020-21
« Reply #255 on: November 03, 2020, 03:04:02 pm »
Getting rid of football would invalidate Heilbron's entire master plan.  Don't think that's gonna happen any time soon.
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Re: Looking ahead to 2020-21
« Reply #256 on: November 03, 2020, 03:42:12 pm »


I’m sure attendance would be a lot better if we played schools people actually knew!!!

I’m not and you shouldn’t be.

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Re: Looking ahead to 2020-21
« Reply #257 on: November 03, 2020, 03:54:40 pm »


I’m sure attendance would be a lot better if we played schools people actually knew!!!

I’m not and you shouldn’t be.

I think we would draw the same numbers as Rutgers. They face all the same challenges that we would face. Rutgers is, imo, the low end of what Stony Brook should aspire to be.

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Re: Looking ahead to 2020-21
« Reply #258 on: November 03, 2020, 04:35:55 pm »
curious- what are the ruTgers #s these days?
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Re: Looking ahead to 2020-21
« Reply #259 on: November 03, 2020, 04:45:37 pm »
No one should want Stony Brook to be a full-time member of the CAA. It’s a lateral move. It’s still a one-bid conference for basketball and in the FCS for football. We’d be in the same hellhole.

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Re: Looking ahead to 2020-21
« Reply #260 on: November 03, 2020, 05:21:02 pm »
we really arent headed anywhere football-wise if we can't put asses in seats.

how are we gonna do that?
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Re: Looking ahead to 2020-21
« Reply #261 on: November 03, 2020, 05:49:20 pm »
No one should want Stony Brook to be a full-time member of the CAA. It’s a lateral move. It’s still a one-bid conference for basketball and in the FCS for football. We’d be in the same hellhole.
Much better competition in terms of Basketball. Vermont is an America East powerhouse. Every team in the CAA is good, not top-heavy. And there's not another conference with numerous teams close enough that should and would want SBU.

A10? Enjoy getting whooped by VCU, Rhode Island, Dayton and UMass
ASUN- that's a step down
Big East? Funny joke
Not even going to touch ACC
C-USA is too far away and most of those schools would beat SBU
MAAC is like ASUN, step down
MAC is too far away, and too good

Maybe Patriot league, but I only know them for FCS football, not basketball.

Seriously, aside from CAA, where else do you think SBU could go? They're not good enough to join a league with plenty of good teams, and don't have the money to fly to every game.

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Re: Looking ahead to 2020-21
« Reply #262 on: November 03, 2020, 06:35:54 pm »
Moving to the CAA would not help and would probably hurt. The purpose of conference affiliation is to raise the public profile of the university. The basketball programs of Elon, Hofstra, Drexel etc. in no way enhance the visibility or reputation of those universities. Better to stay in the AEC where there’s a greater chance of winning a bid to the NCAA tournament...which DOES provide visibility.
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Re: Looking ahead to 2020-21
« Reply #263 on: November 04, 2020, 04:47:10 am »
I will say right not dropping football is a non-starter. What self-respecting university doesn't have football? Especially one with the ambitions we have? Total non-starter. Football stays.

No one should want Stony Brook to be a full-time member of the CAA. It’s a lateral move. It’s still a one-bid conference for basketball and in the FCS for football. We’d be in the same hellhole.
Much better competition in terms of Basketball. Vermont is an America East powerhouse. Every team in the CAA is good, not top-heavy. And there's not another conference with numerous teams close enough that should and would want SBU.

A10? Enjoy getting whooped by VCU, Rhode Island, Dayton and UMass
ASUN- that's a step down
Big East? Funny joke
Not even going to touch ACC
C-USA is too far away and most of those schools would beat SBU
MAAC is like ASUN, step down
MAC is too far away, and too good

Maybe Patriot league, but I only know them for FCS football, not basketball.

Seriously, aside from CAA, where else do you think SBU could go? They're not good enough to join a league with plenty of good teams, and don't have the money to fly to every game.

CAA is a lateral move and doesn't get us into a multi-bid conference. Our eyes need to be set on the A10. I completely believe with the amount we spend on athletics that we could compete in the A10. Recruiting would see a huge boost and I have no reason to believe we couldn't be in the top half of that conference every year. The A10 sends at least 2-3 teams to the tournament each year and has sent as many as five. THAT needs to be our target. They're full right now, but should St. Louis (Big East Rumored), Dayton (Big East rumored), Umass (AAC rumored), or someone else leave we have to be up there on expansion targets. There are schools in that conference such as Fordham who are clearly overmatched and are an RPI anchor for that conference. I've seen us mentioned on A10 fan boards as a replacement for deadweight Fordham.

A10 or an FBS conference should be our goal for sports. Otherwise just keep things in the AE/CAA.

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Re: Looking ahead to 2020-21
« Reply #264 on: November 04, 2020, 06:40:33 am »
I will say right not dropping football is a non-starter. What self-respecting university doesn't have football? Especially one with the ambitions we have? Total non-starter. Football stays.

No one should want Stony Brook to be a full-time member of the CAA. It’s a lateral move. It’s still a one-bid conference for basketball and in the FCS for football. We’d be in the same hellhole.
Much better competition in terms of Basketball. Vermont is an America East powerhouse. Every team in the CAA is good, not top-heavy. And there's not another conference with numerous teams close enough that should and would want SBU.

A10? Enjoy getting whooped by VCU, Rhode Island, Dayton and UMass
ASUN- that's a step down
Big East? Funny joke
Not even going to touch ACC
C-USA is too far away and most of those schools would beat SBU
MAAC is like ASUN, step down
MAC is too far away, and too good

Maybe Patriot league, but I only know them for FCS football, not basketball.

Seriously, aside from CAA, where else do you think SBU could go? They're not good enough to join a league with plenty of good teams, and don't have the money to fly to every game.

CAA is a lateral move and doesn't get us into a multi-bid conference. Our eyes need to be set on the A10. I completely believe with the amount we spend on athletics that we could compete in the A10. Recruiting would see a huge boost and I have no reason to believe we couldn't be in the top half of that conference every year. The A10 sends at least 2-3 teams to the tournament each year and has sent as many as five. THAT needs to be our target. They're full right now, but should St. Louis (Big East Rumored), Dayton (Big East rumored), Umass (AAC rumored), or someone else leave we have to be up there on expansion targets. There are schools in that conference such as Fordham who are clearly overmatched and are an RPI anchor for that conference. I've seen us mentioned on A10 fan boards as a replacement for deadweight Fordham.

A10 or an FBS conference should be our goal for sports. Otherwise just keep things in the AE/CAA.

Ambitions??? Keeping Chucky cheese as your head coach is not ambitious, sorry.

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Re: Looking ahead to 2020-21
« Reply #265 on: November 04, 2020, 09:38:34 am »
my question would be- are students going to come out of their dorms to watch bball play... davidson college?  lasalle?  st. bonnies?   

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Re: Looking ahead to 2020-21
« Reply #266 on: November 04, 2020, 12:59:36 pm »
“I will say right not dropping football is a non-starter. What self-respecting university doesn't have football? Especially one with the ambitions we have?”

At least two. UC Irvine and UC Santa Barbara, both which consistently beat SBU in academic reputation and ratings.
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« Reply #267 on: November 04, 2020, 01:28:05 pm »
I will say right not dropping football is a non-starter. What self-respecting university doesn't have football? Especially one with the ambitions we have? Total non-starter. Football stays.

No one should want Stony Brook to be a full-time member of the CAA. It’s a lateral move. It’s still a one-bid conference for basketball and in the FCS for football. We’d be in the same hellhole.
Much better competition in terms of Basketball. Vermont is an America East powerhouse. Every team in the CAA is good, not top-heavy. And there's not another conference with numerous teams close enough that should and would want SBU.

A10? Enjoy getting whooped by VCU, Rhode Island, Dayton and UMass
ASUN- that's a step down
Big East? Funny joke
Not even going to touch ACC
C-USA is too far away and most of those schools would beat SBU
MAAC is like ASUN, step down
MAC is too far away, and too good

Maybe Patriot league, but I only know them for FCS football, not basketball.

Seriously, aside from CAA, where else do you think SBU could go? They're not good enough to join a league with plenty of good teams, and don't have the money to fly to every game.

CAA is a lateral move and doesn't get us into a multi-bid conference. Our eyes need to be set on the A10. I completely believe with the amount we spend on athletics that we could compete in the A10. Recruiting would see a huge boost and I have no reason to believe we couldn't be in the top half of that conference every year. The A10 sends at least 2-3 teams to the tournament each year and has sent as many as five. THAT needs to be our target. They're full right now, but should St. Louis (Big East Rumored), Dayton (Big East rumored), Umass (AAC rumored), or someone else leave we have to be up there on expansion targets. There are schools in that conference such as Fordham who are clearly overmatched and are an RPI anchor for that conference. I've seen us mentioned on A10 fan boards as a replacement for deadweight Fordham.

A10 or an FBS conference should be our goal for sports. Otherwise just keep things in the AE/CAA.

You make good points, and I would love for all that to happen, but no FBS conference should/would want SBU other than to be a punching bag, easy win. Like Rutgers was after Schiano left.

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Re: Looking ahead to 2020-21
« Reply #268 on: November 04, 2020, 06:57:55 pm »
Does anyone care to guess the starting line-up and rotation? Lots of new faces this year.

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Re: Looking ahead to 2020-21
« Reply #269 on: November 04, 2020, 08:35:40 pm »
i recently posted an interview with ford, he was high on rodriguez i think, i cant find it.

maybe it's TSM, rodriguez, gueye, policelli, sewell, habwe, i dunno.  i don't know where sayles fits in either as the interview was before he was eligible.
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