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Re: Looking ahead to 2020-21
« Reply #120 on: May 11, 2020, 04:54:30 pm »
Greene will prob need to sit a year unless he gets a waiver. Olaniyi gone. 2 roster spots open now.
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Re: Looking ahead to 2020-21
« Reply #121 on: May 11, 2020, 05:34:16 pm »
I just don't see how guys can look at the year Yeboah had at Rutgers and not want a similar experience for themselves. I was stunned when GreatK said that Garcia wanted to stay – the allure is just too strong. And now Elijah, geez.

I hope this is more a sign of the times than a sign of the current culture at SBU.
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Re: Looking ahead to 2020-21
« Reply #122 on: May 11, 2020, 05:46:51 pm »
I just don't see how guys can look at the year Yeboah had at Rutgers and not want a similar experience for themselves. I was stunned when GreatK said that Garcia wanted to stay – the allure is just too strong. And now Elijah, geez.

I hope this is more a sign of the times than a sign of the current culture at SBU.

If this really is the sign of the times then mid major conferences are done. Just close down and forget about Basketball. I think what is going in right now is more than that. I knew Elijah was going to leave..

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Re: Looking ahead to 2020-21
« Reply #123 on: May 11, 2020, 05:47:51 pm »
It’s absolutely criminal that New York has no public Power 5 schools... but that’s a rant for another time.

Elijah wiped his Instagram clean. Should have known by the way that they were all celebratory of Yeboah’s accomplishments at Rutgers.

I don’t know how you fix this issue without moving out of the doldrums of the America East. It’s a miracle Jameel didn’t leave now.
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Re: Looking ahead to 2020-21
« Reply #124 on: May 11, 2020, 06:43:10 pm »
Garcia is no Yeboah. Although different types of players, Olaniyi is not of the same caliber as Yeboah either, IMO.  Olaniyi’s decision is purely one of economics I’m guessing. He’d rather play in Europe now rather than risk sticking around for a potential non-season, and lose a season to inactivity. I’m sure he’s not graduating in 3 years and grad transferring. With Garcia, I’m willing to bet that Pikiell poached him. On that loaded Rutgers team, he’ll come off the bench for 10-12 mins per game, no more. He won’t get any decent minutes anywhere above the A10 level imo. I hope he doesn’t wind up regretting the lure of Yeboah’s move. He’d be a first-teamer this year in the AE, and that might be better for his resume than bench minutes in a higher profile program.
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Re: Looking ahead to 2020-21
« Reply #125 on: May 11, 2020, 06:57:52 pm »
updated- can someone asterisk the redshirts?

guards: 4man, mack, TPP, TSM, rodriguez
slash: gueye, kadisha, alleyne, habwe
bigs: christie, policelli
redshirt: greene
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Re: Looking ahead to 2020-21
« Reply #126 on: May 12, 2020, 07:03:08 am »
Garcia is no Yeboah. Although different types of players, Olaniyi is not of the same caliber as Yeboah either, IMO.  Olaniyi’s decision is purely one of economics I’m guessing. He’d rather play in Europe now rather than risk sticking around for a potential non-season, and lose a season to inactivity. I’m sure he’s not graduating in 3 years and grad transferring. With Garcia, I’m willing to bet that Pikiell poached him. On that loaded Rutgers team, he’ll come off the bench for 10-12 mins per game, no more. He won’t get any decent minutes anywhere above the A10 level imo. I hope he doesn’t wind up regretting the lure of Yeboah’s move. He’d be a first-teamer this year in the AE, and that might be better for his resume than bench minutes in a higher profile program.



We could sit here and ponder all day long why Stony brook basketball lost most of it's team recently, and blame the outside forces. Athletes come to get an education and o yeah, play basketball for free. Last I checked stony brook academics is pretty good and you will go places in this world with this diploma. What I don't get is how a few people on this forum thinks athletes are leaving for different reasons besides a coaching problem. Clearly, something is going on behind closed doors, and athletes are seeing it. Coach Ford will turn out to be the worst BB coach this university has ever seen. Kids are leaving in droves because off Geno Ford. What is there not to see?? Dont blame the economy. Dont blame the NCAA blame the athletics dept for allowing this to happen. This crap didn't happen when Pikiell case here.

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Re: Looking ahead to 2020-21
« Reply #127 on: May 12, 2020, 07:21:48 am »
Garcia is no Yeboah. Although different types of players, Olaniyi is not of the same caliber as Yeboah either, IMO.  Olaniyi’s decision is purely one of economics I’m guessing. He’d rather play in Europe now rather than risk sticking around for a potential non-season, and lose a season to inactivity. I’m sure he’s not graduating in 3 years and grad transferring. With Garcia, I’m willing to bet that Pikiell poached him. On that loaded Rutgers team, he’ll come off the bench for 10-12 mins per game, no more. He won’t get any decent minutes anywhere above the A10 level imo. I hope he doesn’t wind up regretting the lure of Yeboah’s move. He’d be a first-teamer this year in the AE, and that might be better for his resume than bench minutes in a higher profile program.



We could sit here and ponder all day long why Stony brook basketball lost most of it's team recently, and blame the outside forces. Athletes come to get an education and o yeah, play basketball for free. Last I checked stony brook academics is pretty good and you will go places in this world with this diploma. What I don't get is how a few people on this forum thinks athletes are leaving for different reasons besides a coaching problem. Clearly, something is going on behind closed doors, and athletes are seeing it. Coach Ford will turn out to be the worst BB coach this university has ever seen. Kids are leaving in droves because off Geno Ford. What is there not to see?? Dont blame the economy. Dont blame the NCAA blame the athletics dept for allowing this to happen. This crap didn't happen when Pikiell case here.

Hammer, I respect your opinion, and perhaps there is some underlying coach stuff going on; I dunno.  This grad transfer fad is a recent phenomenon - not saying that it didn't exist, but it is being used way, way more than just a few years ago.  It's a trend that I wish didn't exist.  And if we in fact see a resurgence of the virus this fall, there's no denying that the college athletics landscape will never ever be the same.  Bottom line though, the kids have to do what they think is best for them.  The lure of the big programs and ultimate $ is wooing a lot of these kids.  To me, it's a false lure in many cases.
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Re: Looking ahead to 2020-21
« Reply #128 on: May 12, 2020, 10:48:18 am »
updated- can someone asterisk the redshirts?

guards: 4man, mack, TPP, TSM, rodriguez
slash: gueye, kadisha, alleyne, habwe
bigs: christie, policelli
redshirt: greene

I think Green and Habwe are both sitting out for a year. I also think SB has two more scholarships to offer.

Great opportunity for TPP and TSM to step up, as for now likely now both are starters.

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Re: Looking ahead to 2020-21
« Reply #129 on: May 12, 2020, 11:06:34 am »
hard to keep up!

guards: 4man, mack, TPP, TSM, rodriguez
slash: gueye, kadisha, alleyne
bigs: christie, policelli
redshirt: greene, habwe


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Re: Looking ahead to 2020-21
« Reply #130 on: May 12, 2020, 12:38:53 pm »
updated- can someone asterisk the redshirts?

guards: 4man, mack, TPP, TSM, rodriguez
slash: gueye, kadisha, alleyne, habwe
bigs: christie, policelli
redshirt: greene

I think Green and Habwe are both sitting out for a year. I also think SB has two more scholarships to offer.

Great opportunity for TPP and TSM to step up, as for now likely now both are starters.

Habwe is a grad transfer. He's eligible. Thank goodness. We'll need his minutes and, I suspect, his leadership. We're sorely lacking in that department now.

I asked Jeff Goodman about all these transfers (via Twitter), and he thinks it's just a sign of the times – players seeing other players transferring up and wanting to have that experience themselves. It has to be so strange to be among the remaining players with SIX guys gone off last year's team.
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Re: Looking ahead to 2020-21
« Reply #131 on: May 12, 2020, 01:58:51 pm »
hard to keep up!

guards: 4man, mack, TPP, TSM, rodriguez
slash: gueye, kadisha, alleyne
bigs: christie, policelli
redshirt: greene, habwe

Some corrections: -- Habwe should not be a redshirt, and instead be considered a "big"
                           -- Jaden Sayles should be listed as a redshirt




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Re: Looking ahead to 2020-21
« Reply #132 on: May 12, 2020, 02:30:10 pm »
guards: 4man, mack, TPP, TSM, rodriguez
slash: gueye, kadisha, alleyne
bigs: christie, policelli, habwe
redshirt: greene, sayles
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Re: Looking ahead to 2020-21
« Reply #134 on: May 12, 2020, 03:36:20 pm »
Well Foreman thanked Ford in his tweet... so we can cross that theory off the list.

This is insane. All five starters, gone in an instant.