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Re: Looking ahead to 2020-21
« Reply #15 on: March 31, 2020, 12:07:36 pm »
more big news, wow.

i'd have to think this opens the door for the chef, no?

for whatever this is worth- that junior class just had too many players.
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Re: Looking ahead to 2020-21
« Reply #16 on: March 31, 2020, 12:39:40 pm »
IMO, losing Otchere hurts a lot more than losing Latimer, even though Jeff's playing time (17 MPG) was reduced severely with the emergence of Mo.  Chef is now going to have to step up big time, and maybe this creates an avenue for Christie to now play a role.

I'm going to bet that a bigger program is going to take a chance with Jeff, given his length and DPOY resume.

Checkmate (or CoB), maybe we should close this thread now, to stop the bleeding......

(Christie, to play a role)? Now that is hitting rock bottom. Chef doesnt have the BB IQ to be a starter. If Mo leaves then there is a huge internal problem going on at Stony Brook.

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Re: Looking ahead to 2020-21
« Reply #17 on: March 31, 2020, 12:41:54 pm »
so as it stands now- this is what the roster looks like (corrections welcome please):

guards: 4man, mack, TPP, TSM
slash: policelli, gueye, garcia, kadisha, alleyne
bigs: chef, christie
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Re: Looking ahead to 2020-21
« Reply #18 on: March 31, 2020, 12:53:04 pm »
so as it stands now- this is what the roster looks like (corrections welcome please):

guards: 4man, mack, TPP, TSM
slash: policelli, gueye, garcia, kadisha, alleyne
bigs: chef, christie

Yeah, except your forgot Elijah.  He's as good as coming back, IMO.

Flight risks from here: 

Garcia - Please don't go!!!!!!!

4man - doubtful, given his prominent role, but since Jeff did the double transfer, we now know that he is certainly eligible)

TPP - my opinion only, based on his body language with Geno, but also not likely with Latimer leaving)

Can't see Mac or Chef leaving at this point, but who knows at this point.
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Re: Looking ahead to 2020-21
« Reply #19 on: March 31, 2020, 12:55:54 pm »
so as it stands now- this is what the roster looks like (corrections welcome please):

guards: 4man, mack, TPP, TSM
slash: policelli, gueye, garcia, kadisha, alleyne
bigs: chef, christie

A friend nicknamed Foreman "Chuck". I wish I had thought of that.

Starting five is still formidable – TSM, Foreman, Policelli, Garcia and Gueye right now. I fully expect Olaniyi to return so he'd go in for TSM or Policelli ... although maybe they go back in if Garcia goes. VERY thin after that. The exits are alarming, but we'll bring in reinforcements – jucos or grad transfers of our own.
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Re: Looking ahead to 2020-21
« Reply #20 on: March 31, 2020, 12:56:27 pm »
Hopefully we use the transfer market to our advantage, or continue our Juco pipeline. Not looking at the stats rn but I think Mo averaged more minutes than Jeff despite coming off the bench?

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Re: Looking ahead to 2020-21
« Reply #21 on: March 31, 2020, 01:01:49 pm »
so as it stands now- this is what the roster looks like (corrections welcome please):

guards: 4man, mack, TPP, TSM
slash: policelli, gueye, garcia, kadisha, alleyne
bigs: chef, christie

Yeah, except your forgot Elijah.  He's as good as coming back, IMO.

i was doing more of a worst case scenario- then i thought- maybe the worst isnt over!

what do we know about policelli in the paint?  i havent seen video in a long while.
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Re: Looking ahead to 2020-21
« Reply #22 on: March 31, 2020, 01:04:46 pm »
are other teams in the AE experiencing this?

i personally would rather have chef on the floor much more- considering that gueye nor policelli (i dont think) is really a "big" in the normal sense. 

otherwise it's really small ball- all the time.  who's gonna get all those boards?  from all those record breaking three point attempts we take???

if you add ola back in, then we lose two players who had somewhat limited minutes.  still hurts.
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Re: Looking ahead to 2020-21
« Reply #23 on: March 31, 2020, 01:13:34 pm »
are other teams in the AE experiencing this?

i personally would rather have chef on the floor much more- considering that gueye nor policelli (i dont think) is really a "big" in the normal sense. 

otherwise it's really small ball- all the time.  who's gonna get all those boards?  from all those record breaking three point attempts we take???

if you add ola back in, then we lose two players who had somewhat limited minutes.  still hurts.

Well, Bing just lost their franchise guy.  UA went through this 2 years ago (Cremo, Nicholls).  As Checkmate pointed out, Calixta and Myers with Maine recently.  Welcome to the world of free agency - I personally hate it; kids are basically a rental for a year or 2 max these days.

Huge oppty for Chef, as now we have a bit of a big deficiency, esp since Mo is foul prone.  I think Christie has incentive to work hard in the off-season, as he becomes an insurance policy of sorts.  Losing Jeff certainly hurts, even if it was for only 17 MPG.

I know some of you guys think Latimer is a big loss, but with TSM, TPP, and Policelli in the mix, I don't think we skip a bit at the 2.

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Re: Looking ahead to 2020-21
« Reply #24 on: March 31, 2020, 01:37:42 pm »
Here's a comparison of Otchere's and Latimer's statistics over their 2 years:

Latimer Stats:
              GP   MIN   FG%3P%   FT%   REB   AST   BLK   STL   PF   TO   PTS
2019-20 32   26.5 34.8   34.1   74.5   2.9   1.5   0.2   0.9   1.7   1.4   7.0
2018-19 33   31.7 38.8   38.7   76.9   3.6   1.4   0.2   0.9   1.8   1.3   10.6

Otchere Stats:
              GP      MIN   FG%3P%   FT% REB   AST   BLK   STL   PF   TO   PTS
2019-20 33    17.1   54.2   0.0   45.9   5.4   0.5   1.5   0.2   2.4   1.3   2.8
2018-19 33    18.0   56.1   0.0   65.5   4.2   0.5   2.4   0.2   3.0   1.2   4.4

Sorry if this doesn't render right on phones; couldn't upload images.
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Re: Looking ahead to 2020-21
« Reply #25 on: March 31, 2020, 01:54:24 pm »
I’m just playing armchair psychologist here, but maybe Jeff didn’t like sharing the spotlight with Mo. his Individual stats did go down even though the team stats went up. He went from DPOY, 78 blocks to 49 while Mo led the team.

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Re: Looking ahead to 2020-21
« Reply #26 on: March 31, 2020, 06:00:47 pm »
IMO, losing Otchere hurts a lot more than losing Latimer, even though Jeff's playing time (17 MPG) was reduced severely with the emergence of Mo.  Chef is now going to have to step up big time, and maybe this creates an avenue for Christie to now play a role.

I'm going to bet that a bigger program is going to take a chance with Jeff, given his length and DPOY resume.

Checkmate (or CoB), maybe we should close this thread now, to stop the bleeding......

Christie playing a role?? We're definitely scraping the bottom now if that's the case. Ford is clearly doing something wrong here. We had tons of talent on this team this past year, but lost way more games than we should have. Now the whole roster is falling apart. I have no idea how all of this will shake out, but the way things are looking, we'll be lucky to finish in the top half of the AE next year. Which is a ridiculous fall.

Looks like the people warning us about Ford were right!!
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Re: Looking ahead to 2020-21
« Reply #27 on: March 31, 2020, 06:04:25 pm »
or maybe the purging is what we need.

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Re: Looking ahead to 2020-21
« Reply #28 on: March 31, 2020, 09:34:54 pm »
We've had offers out for some time now for what seem to be really good PGs and CGs, but have received no commitments.  Other teams have seemed to gobble up some pretty good candidates, even what I would consider less significantly less attractive programs.  Coach F. and Coach W. better get on the stick fast--before all the choice pickins dry up!!

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Re: Looking ahead to 2020-21
« Reply #29 on: March 31, 2020, 10:09:32 pm »
Sorry, but I think Geno did a good job keeping the team together, especially after losing his best player (Yeboah), and then losing his best remaining player (Elijah) during the season. With the emergence of Mo, Jeff’s inability to stay on the court and his inability to score, can anyone blame him for playing Mo more than Jeff?  Jeff’s mentor and biggest cheerleader on this board had Jeff going to the NBA, and filling the kid’s head with those unrealistic dreams. When Mo blew him out of the water in most categories, you can’t fault Geno for decreasing his mins. Jeff thinks he’s getting a raw deal, and he transfers, end of story.

Latimer’s #’s we’re down across the board, and imo, his shot selection got worse. TSM earned and stole some of his minutes, and deservedly so. Geno still gave him 27 mpg, but Latimer obviously didn’t like coming off bench, even though he still played major minutes. Is it Geno’s fault that Latimer thinks he deserves 35 mins per game? I don’t think so.

Give Geno some credit for winning 20 games, and getting to semis with his gimpy star. Hartford went out and got some exceptional transfers; as much as I hate this new world of transfer thing, maybe we need to do the same.
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