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Re: Game 8: vs. St. Francis (Pa.) 12/2
« Reply #15 on: December 04, 2017, 10:33:01 am »
If I had to pick a starting  5 going into conference play  it would be Cornish , Olaniyi, Yeboah, Saintel and Sturdivant.   Secunda and UC  off the bench as 6 and 7 .  These guys can score and score quickly . Need a big improvement in free throws  but other than that  solid 7 man rotation .

I think Cornish is the man at point, but I think Olaniyi will be coming off the bench as the energy guy, and will probably be in there at the end of games.  I would venture to say that UC will be starting.  I also think Petras deserves minutes; his hustle, size, and enthusiasm warrant 8-10 minutes per night.  I also think Almonacy has shown some signs of brilliance and deserves 8-10+ minutes per night as well. 

I think this will/should be a learning year for McKenzie, Long, and Ochefu on the bench.  The "Chef" is quite young and raw, and although he has an upper-classman body, I  can't see him playing ahead of Petras, based on his appearances to date.

I agree with you on all fronts except with Petras.. He is a senior and still plays like a Freshman and really is a clown on the floor. He's a fan favorite because of his goofiness, just saying.. I still would like to see "Chef" with more playing time and I think he is only a step or two with breaking out of his shell... He could be our other go to big guy. We just dont know because of his very limited time on the floor.

Coach P gave Petras the benefit of the doubt as a freshman when he stepped foot on campus and gave him a lot of playing time and he was horrible to say the least, I do remember that.. I would do the same with Chef. He needs time on that floor to get comfortable.. I feel like Boals is not using him enough off the bench... Of course, it is possible Boals knows something about Chef that we dont know?

Petras is fine. He gives his 100%. He knows his role and does what he knows best. Can't expect him to score double double every night. Then he wouldn't be playing in SBU, he would be in A10. I don't understand why do you expect him to be a first team AE type player. He is not Warney. He is a solid role player. I like him for his passion and what he brings to the table. Coach Pikiell knew that and Coach Boals knows that. That's why he got minutes under the old coach and gets minutes under the new coach.

Chef will get his minutes when he earns them. If he works hard and shows during the practice that he is ready to produce, then he will get more minutes next game, otherwise down the season, or even next season. We don't know but coach Boals surely knows. Boals has not shied away from playing new players. No one is blocking Chef from developing. I have high hope for Chef and I am pretty sure that he will be a big contributor sooner than later. But it is a misconception that Petras is blocking his development.
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Re: Game 8: vs. St. Francis (Pa.) 12/2
« Reply #16 on: December 04, 2017, 10:48:11 am »
If I had to pick a starting  5 going into conference play  it would be Cornish , Olaniyi, Yeboah, Saintel and Sturdivant.   Secunda and UC  off the bench as 6 and 7 .  These guys can score and score quickly . Need a big improvement in free throws  but other than that  solid 7 man rotation .

I think Cornish is the man at point, but I think Olaniyi will be coming off the bench as the energy guy, and will probably be in there at the end of games.  I would venture to say that UC will be starting.  I also think Petras deserves minutes; his hustle, size, and enthusiasm warrant 8-10 minutes per night.  I also think Almonacy has shown some signs of brilliance and deserves 8-10+ minutes per night as well. 

I think this will/should be a learning year for McKenzie, Long, and Ochefu on the bench.  The "Chef" is quite young and raw, and although he has an upper-classman body, I  can't see him playing ahead of Petras, based on his appearances to date.

I agree with you on all fronts except with Petras.. He is a senior and still plays like a Freshman and really is a clown on the floor. He's a fan favorite because of his goofiness, just saying.. I still would like to see "Chef" with more playing time and I think he is only a step or two with breaking out of his shell... He could be our other go to big guy. We just dont know because of his very limited time on the floor.

Coach P gave Petras the benefit of the doubt as a freshman when he stepped foot on campus and gave him a lot of playing time and he was horrible to say the least, I do remember that.. I would do the same with Chef. He needs time on that floor to get comfortable.. I feel like Boals is not using him enough off the bench... Of course, it is possible Boals knows something about Chef that we dont know?

Petras is fine. He gives his 100%. He knows his role and does what he knows best. Can't expect him to score double double every night. Then he wouldn't be playing in SBU, he would be in A10. I don't understand why do you expect him to be a first team AE type player. He is not Warney. He is a solid role player. I like him for his passion and what he brings to the table. Coach Pikiell knew that and Coach Boals knows that. That's why he got minutes under the old coach and gets minutes under the new coach.

Chef will get his minutes when he earns them. If he works hard and shows during the practice that he is ready to produce, then he will get more minutes next game, otherwise down the season, or even next season. We don't know but coach Boals surely knows. Boals has not shied away from playing new players. No one is blocking Chef from developing. I have high hope for Chef and I am pretty sure that he will be a big contributor sooner than later. But it is a misconception that Petras is blocking his development.

Look at his stats, IBOsbu. For a 6'11" big, his blocks, rebounds, asst are atrocious. Listen, I sit as close to the floor as you can at IFCU and watched virtually every game Petras been in. His #'s are brutal, you cant deny that.. He constantly gets out rebounded in every game by guards who are a foot smaller then him..

I am not saying petras is taking minutes away from Chief.. May be coach Boals could experiment with Petras and Ochefu on the floor at the same time for a few minutes to see if we can defend that paint better. When we are constantly counting on our small guards to make offensive and defensive rebounds, that's a problem. That is why you have Centers in the game.. Feel free to look at his stats for every game.....

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Re: Game 8: vs. St. Francis (Pa.) 12/2
« Reply #17 on: December 04, 2017, 10:52:10 am »
Watched this one on ESPN3, and believe me when I say it, we stole this one.  St. Francis is a real good team, and may be the team to beat in the NEC this year along with Monmouth, .


Yes, St. Francis is definitely the NEC favorite.    Monmouth is in the MAAC.

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Re: Game 8: vs. St. Francis (Pa.) 12/2
« Reply #18 on: December 04, 2017, 01:29:34 pm »
Watched this one on ESPN3, and believe me when I say it, we stole this one.  St. Francis is a real good team, and may be the team to beat in the NEC this year along with Monmouth, .


Yes, St. Francis is definitely the NEC favorite.    Monmouth is in the MAAC.

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Re: Game 8: vs. St. Francis (Pa.) 12/2
« Reply #19 on: December 06, 2017, 01:00:59 am »
I guess playing Stony Brook wasn’t good prep for playing Duke.  Duke scored 71 points in the first half on the way to a 124-67 win over St. Francis (PA). Ouch!
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Re: Game 8: vs. St. Francis (Pa.) 12/2
« Reply #20 on: December 06, 2017, 05:43:56 am »
I guess playing Stony Brook wasn’t good prep for playing Duke.  Duke scored 71 points in the first half on the way to a 124-67 win over St. Francis (PA). Ouch!

 Scoring in the paint wasn't the problem with ST. Francis (PA). We couldn't stop their 3 ball.. Obviously, Dukes big guards did.. Duke probably scored every time they got the ball with zero turnovers..