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Game 6: vs. North Dakota State, 11/17 2pm
« on: November 16, 2019, 10:26:59 pm »
NORTH DAKOTA STATE (4-1)
Last Game: North Dakota State 57, Texas A&M Corpus Christi 45 on 11/16/19
Last Game with SBU: First meeting
Checkmate Unofficial Line: North Dakota State -4
Net Ranking: TBD
KenPom RPI: Stony Brook 214, North Dakota State 158
KenPom Prediction: North Dakota State 67, Stony Brook 64
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Notables (stats to come):
6-6/195 sr G Tyson Ward
5-11/190 sr G Vinnie Shahid
6-6/215 sr F Sam Griesel
6-10/250 jr F Rocky Kreuser
6-3/185 sr G Jared Samuelson

All right, boys, let's go win ourselves a tournament.

I watched the last 10 minutes of TAMUCC/NDSU to see what we're up against. My overall thoughts? Meh. They were all right, I guess. I thought TAMUCC defended us well and they gave NDSU trouble as well.

For the Bison, I'm not terribly worried about any one particular individual. Maybe Shahid? He's a compact guard whose shiftiness allows him to get into the paint to distribute or score himself. And he can shoot it – better than 36 percent from three last year. Good player but containable I think. Size-wise, Foreman makes sense for him. Of the game footage that I've seen the last two days, I feel like our perimeter defense combined with Gueye and Otchere (hopefully) guarding the paint make it tough on him.

Ward's their leading scorer but seems like a blue-collar kind of kid. Not a terrific shooter but a gamer.

Leave that to Samuelson (.462 from three last year), Cameron Hunter (.400) and even the big guy Kreuser (team-best .421 this year). Without seeing NDSU, I'm guessing you'd guess they can shoot it from deep. Well, they certainly aren't afraid to – 47 percent of their shot attempts last year; 45 percent this year. The conversion rate is down this fall though – just 32 percent even with a win over Mayville State included – but give it time as pretty much all five guys on the court can and will shoot it from deep. We've defended shooters well of late, including holding them to a paltry .300 make rate on threes last year. This year hasn't quite matched that, but I like what I've seen the last couple days. Sell out to defend the perimeter.

Inevitably, we'll get into a shooting contest with them, but we should feel confident going to the hole. Their on-ball defense wasn't anything special, I thought the help came late, and there isn't a big-time defender at the rim. I'm still waiting for somebody to penetrate, draw a big, and slip a nice dish to Gueye or Otchere for an easy dunk.

Let's not forget that pretty much of all of these guys helped NDSU win a first four game over North Carolina A&T in last year's NCAA Tournament, and they hung with Duke for a half until Zion and Co. picked up their game to start the second half. It's a battle-tested group.

Interesting nugget: not a single player on North Dakota State is from North Dakota. UND has two. I know it's not exactly fertile ground for basketball talent, but still, nobody?

A noteworthy stat: NDSU has shot 105 free throws to their opponents' 52. And this is a three-point shooting team. But Shahid and Ward have shown a propensity for getting to the line, and they're shooting over 77 percent from the stripe as a team.

A much less noteworthy stat: If we win this game, we'd get to 3-3 all-time in the state of Texas. It would become only the fifth state in our Division I history in which we have a .500 record or better (2 game minimum), joining New York (200-152), Maryland (16-12), Maine (10-7) and Michigan (2-2). Right now, we're sub .500 in 14 states as well as DC.

LFG.
« Last Edit: November 16, 2019, 11:00:12 pm by Checkmate »
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Re: Game 6: vs. North Dakota State, 11/17 2pm
« Reply #1 on: November 16, 2019, 10:46:53 pm »
I remember this team in last year’s tournament; they were solid. Sounds like a tough game for us, but if we can play solid perimeter D and attack the hole with our bigs, we have a shot.

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Re: Game 6: vs. North Dakota State, 11/17 2pm
« Reply #2 on: November 17, 2019, 04:52:42 am »
We'd have no chance in hell against NDSU in football, so I'm all for picking this one up as a moral victory. I say we get it done and get the W tomorrow.

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Re: Game 6: vs. North Dakota State, 11/17 2pm
« Reply #3 on: November 17, 2019, 11:04:12 am »
We are 2.5 point dogs today.


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Re: Game 6: vs. North Dakota State, 11/17 2pm
« Reply #4 on: November 17, 2019, 02:16:13 pm »
great start.  10-0 and we are 5min in before NDSU hit one.  they create shots but couldnt sink.  otch pulled with an early foul. 
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Re: Game 6: vs. North Dakota State, 11/17 2pm
« Reply #5 on: November 17, 2019, 02:39:48 pm »
refs letting them play today- not a lot of fouls.  shahid is good at crashing the glass. 

we built our leads on threes; then lost it- on threes.  we are now down 21-19, otch with two fouls.
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Re: Game 6: vs. North Dakota State, 11/17 2pm
« Reply #6 on: November 17, 2019, 02:43:15 pm »
Laying an egg so far.  They drive and make the layup or get fouled.  We drive and clank it off the rim.

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Re: Game 6: vs. North Dakota State, 11/17 2pm
« Reply #7 on: November 17, 2019, 02:50:15 pm »
Elijah putting us on his back right now.


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Re: Game 6: vs. North Dakota State, 11/17 2pm
« Reply #8 on: November 17, 2019, 02:57:54 pm »
Very uneven 1st half, except for Elijah’s play. Jeff hasn’t learned anything about staying on court. TSM very unimpressive performance with 1st extended play. Garcia with silly frustration 2nd personal. We’ll see what we’ve got in 2nd half.

Frustrated with transmission. I cast to my TV, but losing transmission, and when I restart goes to beginning of game. Only watching on phone now.
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Re: Game 6: vs. North Dakota State, 11/17 2pm
« Reply #9 on: November 17, 2019, 03:13:59 pm »
All one on one today.  No flow to the offense.

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Re: Game 6: vs. North Dakota State, 11/17 2pm
« Reply #10 on: November 17, 2019, 03:23:35 pm »
refs now calling a lot.  our bigs are in foul trouble.  also too many travels.
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Re: Game 6: vs. North Dakota State, 11/17 2pm
« Reply #11 on: November 17, 2019, 03:54:33 pm »
brilliant 2nd half from garcia- both sides of the ball, playing with fouls too.

perfect FTs.  nice trifecta in texas boys!

i cant help but to think this team would be more competitive if they just took about ten less three pointers.  we didnt take a lot today (21), we shot them well today (9/21 is amazing)- but we lost the 10 point lead- and then went down a few- because we just kept shooting them from NBA range (with a lead), without even attempting to press the boards.  it's not like we don't have penetrators.  we just almost blew it down the stretch.

but found a way to win. GO SB
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Re: Game 6: vs. North Dakota State, 11/17 2pm
« Reply #12 on: November 17, 2019, 04:01:19 pm »
Three wins in three days! A whale of a weekend. I wonder if we’ve ever pulled off this kind of thing before.


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Re: Game 6: vs. North Dakota State, 11/17 2pm
« Reply #13 on: November 17, 2019, 04:03:27 pm »
Impressive final 10 minutes. Garcia just dominated on inside. Our man and help defense was stellar. I agree with CoB, cut down on 3’s, although Mo stuck 2 big ones. Elijah with huge 1st half made it possible for us. Elijah, Garcia, and Foreman are definitely the leaders on this team. On negative side, Latimer looks like he got banged up, big Jeff looks lost, and the rooks (TSM and TPP)-well, they look like rooks.
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Re: Game 6: vs. North Dakota State, 11/17 2pm
« Reply #14 on: November 19, 2019, 10:37:53 am »
Good point here @OldSeawolf. We need big Jeff to get back on track.