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Re: Game 33: AE semis vs. Hartford, 3/9 7pm
« Reply #45 on: March 10, 2020, 11:03:59 pm »
Looking past the postseason to 2020-21 ... does Christie return? Does Garcia? Does Foreman? My guess, with no inside knowledge at all, is no, no, yes. Never know with Chef and Mac either. There's pretty much no path to additional playing time.

Hear are my thoughts:

- Christie will transfer or be cut;

- I hope you are wrong about Garcia.  He's not a Yeboah, but could probably play in the A10 with some decent minutes (maybe 10-20 a night, not 30+ he's getting here).  He was recruited by Pikiell, so there is always the chance that he gets poached by Rutgers, but I can't see him getting the more than 10 minutes per game there.  In any event, let the Garcia watch begin;

- Where is Foreman going to be given the keys to the kingdom, like he has at Stony Brook.  Not sure he can transfer again as a Grad student (prob can), but I fully expect he'll be back;

- Chef and Mac will be Seniors; they will both be back, and would need to sit a year on a transfer;

- Jeff can't be happy with his declining minutes, but as a Senior, he'd have to sit out a year on a transfer.  He'll be back IMO;

- I think TPP is possible flight risk.  IMO, he has terrible body language with the Coach, and if everyone is back, his minutes will be squeezed.  I could see him looking to transfer;

If they stay D-I. Almonacy led SNHU in minutes and Long was at almost 30 a night himself. Think they're looking back?

Good for them that they're getting PT, but they were both going into their Junior year when they transferred.  Harder to transfer your Senior year, if you are looking to actually graduate college on time.  Granted lots of schools will take SBU credits, but with major requirements and such, harder to transfer and graduate all in 1 year, IMO.  Of course, anything is possible.
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Re: Game 33: AE semis vs. Hartford, 3/9 7pm
« Reply #46 on: March 10, 2020, 11:45:13 pm »
I'll root for Hofstra. Screw it. I did my MBA there. I guess I caln root for them now.

I'm so tired and frustrated with this Stony Brook basketball program. UMBC, Vermont, Albany all can pull surprise. We choke year after year. Its really hard spending so much energy on a program that gives nothing back to the fans.

Oh well. Gotta wait for Football season now
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Re: Game 33: AE semis vs. Hartford, 3/9 7pm
« Reply #47 on: March 11, 2020, 12:07:05 am »
I'll root for Hofstra. Screw it. I did my MBA there. I guess I caln root for them now.

I'm so tired and frustrated with this Stony Brook basketball program. UMBC, Vermont, Albany all can pull surprise. We choke year after year. Its really hard spending so much energy on a program that gives nothing back to the fans.

Oh well. Gotta wait for Football season now

I wouldn't call tonight's loss a choke, considering Hartford is a better team, with better players and despite the meltdown, a better coach.

Bottom line, IMHO, despite the BB program talking itself into mid-major relevance, SB is a slightly above-average team in a below average conference. But I'll still watch because they play hard, the games are entertaining, and every now and then they surprise us.

As for SB athletics, there's still the women's BB team, the men's lacrosse team seems to be off to a good start, and the baseball team is always competitive...and finally there's women's lacrosse, SB's best chance for a final four, or better.

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Re: Game 33: AE semis vs. Hartford, 3/9 7pm
« Reply #48 on: March 11, 2020, 12:38:13 am »
I’ll have lengthier thoughts in the coming days

I knew better than to be hyped after we went up by 3. Because it’s the same problems they have. All we need is one bucket to gain some separation and it rims out. Ugh.

UMBC @ SBU for the finals would have been so dope

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Re: Game 33: AE semis vs. Hartford, 3/9 7pm
« Reply #49 on: March 11, 2020, 08:36:30 am »
We just didn't make enough big shots, period. We're up 52-51 with four minutes to go and then this sequence: Olaniyi missed layup, Olaniyi miss from four feet on the inbounds, Foreman missed layup, Marks three, Olaniyi missed layup, Foreman missed layup, Marks three. Three-and-a-half minutes with your season on the line and no points. That's your ball game.

im not disagreeing but couldnt you think that this was lost in the first half, by going down 31-19?
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Re: Game 33: AE semis vs. Hartford, 3/9 7pm
« Reply #50 on: March 11, 2020, 08:45:54 am »
We just didn't make enough big shots, period. We're up 52-51 with four minutes to go and then this sequence: Olaniyi missed layup, Olaniyi miss from four feet on the inbounds, Foreman missed layup, Marks three, Olaniyi missed layup, Foreman missed layup, Marks three. Three-and-a-half minutes with your season on the line and no points. That's your ball game.

im not disagreeing but couldnt you think that this was lost in the first half, by going down 31-19?

Chairman. Dont you think that falls entirely on the coach for not driving to the basket??? My voice still hurts screaming at Ford for not doing that..Hartford had their two best 3 point shooters in foul trouble. Any drive to the basket would have fouled one or both of them. That would have limited their 3 point ball, which would have freed up the perimeter protection.

I am convinced. Ford is not the face of SB men's basketball. He has Bradley written all over himself. Give the man one more season with a team full of seniors. If SB doesnt make it to the Finals, move on!!!!!
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Re: Game 33: AE semis vs. Hartford, 3/9 7pm
« Reply #51 on: March 11, 2020, 08:54:51 am »
i won't opine on that- because we cannot say what's going on in their heads- i'll just say that i think we often revert to deep desperation shots without even thinking about passing/driving.
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Re: Game 33: AE semis vs. Hartford, 3/9 7pm
« Reply #52 on: March 11, 2020, 09:13:48 am »
In the postgame presser pretty sure Geno was asked that same question.

I thought getting Elijah back would mean that he would be the primary finisher at the rim, I don’t know if it was residual effects from the injury as to why he couldn’t just get that one final bucket to fall

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Re: Game 33: AE semis vs. Hartford, 3/9 7pm
« Reply #53 on: March 11, 2020, 10:24:05 am »
it aint my team- but here's my "i aint the coach 2020/2021 wish list":

-patience

-passing

-post


in practices, we should use the shot clock, control tempo.  teams go on runs against us because we miss threes, then it goes the other way, rinse/repeat. 

move the ball, it moves faster than the feet.  shots will open.  then practice moving the ball.

then have our bigs stand on the block, back to the basket, knees bent.  guards feed the ball, bigs turn and baby hook.  100x per day (both hands) until they hit 40%.  it worked for jameel and it's not impossible.

youre just not going to beat vermont (consistently) if you sling up threes a few seconds into the clock and hope that on the very day in march where it's on the line, you happen to hit 40% AND it's enough still to win.  the facts are in my corner on this one. 
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Re: Game 33: AE semis vs. Hartford, 3/9 7pm
« Reply #54 on: March 11, 2020, 12:11:23 pm »
I have to agree with COB  we dont use the clock to our advantage .   We will shoot a 3 with 20 seconds on the clock then the other guy down the court after the miss and the rebound.  Im a firm believer  in driving to the basket and either scoring or draw a foul .  Always a good  chance for and 1 also  make a 3 pointer the old fashion way.

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Re: Game 33: AE semis vs. Hartford, 3/9 7pm
« Reply #55 on: March 11, 2020, 12:34:27 pm »
correct; we shoot well from the stripe- we can create upsets by having others foul out- leverage our depth and expose the AE teams that don't have it.

also- watch closely when we take threes- do we crash the boards, or do we plant feet, hand straight up, watching our shot.  lack of discipline.  yes, we lose rebounds because of this. 

if we have all these bigs and don't use their length- what good is it.  i will not accept that an AE forward can pick a pass from otchere's wingspan when his back is to the basket.

when we take 30 attempts from deep per game, that's every 40 seconds, or 1.5 per minute. 

when we miss 20 attempts from deep per game- the chances are they will be consecutive.  when they are consecutive, teams go on runs.  how many saw us give up 10-15 point runs, and then lost.
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Re: Game 33: AE semis vs. Hartford, 3/9 7pm
« Reply #56 on: March 11, 2020, 01:14:36 pm »
OT: Didin't know where to put this - Sam Sessoms (Binghamton) just put his name out on the Transfer Portal.
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Re: Game 33: AE semis vs. Hartford, 3/9 7pm
« Reply #57 on: March 11, 2020, 01:17:33 pm »
OT: Didin't know where to put this - Sam Sessoms (Binghamton) just put his name out on the Transfer Portal.

Around the AE/country thread would do. That's a dagger for BU. No conference tournament and then this? I wonder what's up over there.
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Re: Game 33: AE semis vs. Hartford, 3/9 7pm
« Reply #58 on: March 11, 2020, 04:41:15 pm »
The only thing preventing me from calling the game a choke is our 3-17 shooting from 3.  Choking would imply that our shooting result was a surprise rather than an entirely predictable outcome.  The league is in no way better now than it was during the Pikiell years.  If you are going to tell me that the new SBU identity is going to be chucking 3's I will tell you that the days of us being number 2 or higher in the league 9 of 11 years and 5 finals appearances are over.

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Re: Game 33: AE semis vs. Hartford, 3/9 7pm
« Reply #59 on: March 11, 2020, 05:03:33 pm »
NCAA Tournament officially bans fans.