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Re: Game 33: AE semis vs. Hartford, 3/9 7pm
« Reply #30 on: March 10, 2020, 09:06:44 pm »
do i have to say it this time or is someone else going to bring it up

SB plays with tremendous effort, but they are incapable of creating good looks on offense. Everything is either a contested layup in traffic or a three (and I'm sorry SB is not a good three point shooting team...check their numbers in conference play.) That said, it's the equivalent of hitting on 15 in blackjack...you may have your brief runs but it's unsustainable.

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Re: Game 33: AE semis vs. Hartford, 3/9 7pm
« Reply #31 on: March 10, 2020, 09:11:59 pm »
Good observation 1991  those 3s are on the coach  he pushes them to shoot the long ball .

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Re: Game 33: AE semis vs. Hartford, 3/9 7pm
« Reply #32 on: March 10, 2020, 09:13:41 pm »
Good observation 1991  those 3s are on the coach  he pushes them to shoot the long ball .
Geno Ford is not a good coach, sorry to say.
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Re: Game 33: AE semis vs. Hartford, 3/9 7pm
« Reply #33 on: March 10, 2020, 09:14:21 pm »
yep.  we lose again.  it's ok though because i knew it was coming, and im used to it!

and it's not just the %.  it's the lack of passing, the off balance, contested, poorly timed threes, from beyond NBA range.  greed and selfishness.

the three pointer is a tool; not a strategy. 

i wouldnt even want to get invited to the CBI/NIT.
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Re: Game 33: AE semis vs. Hartford, 3/9 7pm
« Reply #34 on: March 10, 2020, 09:15:40 pm »
Gotta look at it with the cup half full.  We bring back this entire group next year!

We brought a bunch of guys back this year and it didn't seem to do us much good.

Next year, if Ford delivers anything less than winning the America East and making the NCAA Tournament he needs to be fired on the spot immediately. We ought to be the overwhelming favorites next year.

Geno Ford sucks. He blew this game. How can 2 teams shoot over 50% from the 3s

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Re: Game 33: AE semis vs. Hartford, 3/9 7pm
« Reply #35 on: March 10, 2020, 09:16:19 pm »
but but but, we take a lot of threes!  record breaking! 

i'd be awaiting the NCAA invitation based on that alone
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Re: Game 33: AE semis vs. Hartford, 3/9 7pm
« Reply #36 on: March 10, 2020, 09:16:42 pm »
Gotta look at it with the cup half full.  We bring back this entire group next year!

Hopefully for his sake, Garcia won't come back. And even with Garcia they are an offensively challenged team.

My end of season suggestions...much less time in the weight room and much more time working on ball handling, passing and receiving passes.

Also I agree with an earlier post, this team doesn't deserve a post season tournament, even a minor one. Really only two good wins all year.

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Re: Game 33: AE semis vs. Hartford, 3/9 7pm
« Reply #37 on: March 10, 2020, 09:20:56 pm »
well here are some season ending (do we get a post-season invitation?) thoughts...

-it's better than the first round bingo loss (right?)

-we simply don't pass the ball (14-5 assists?  that's consistent with the entire season)

-what good are all these 20 win seasons if we almost never win in the tournament


otherwise:

-vermont wins, but BC gave a fight

-certainly a lot of charging calls tonight; gueye played well, latimer on d, garcia decent all around; lots of steals tonight

-we never talk about it but i think pav/wincott are very good at broadcasting

-checkie, as always, your content is so good i'd pay for it

GO SB
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Re: Game 33: AE semis vs. Hartford, 3/9 7pm
« Reply #38 on: March 10, 2020, 09:35:06 pm »
Disappointing loss after we stormed back. Had the lead with 3 minutes left and couldn’t close out. Our defense was solid: gotta give credit to the Hartford kids who hit the 3’s (Marx in particular). Geno should have worked the ball to Mo and Garcia very time down. We are definitely offensively challenged. I hope Garcia returns and doesn’t get any ideas of transferring. Gallagher handed it to us on a silver platter with his T, but we couldn’t put them away. We took out Ellison and still couldn’t win.
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Re: Game 33: AE semis vs. Hartford, 3/9 7pm
« Reply #39 on: March 10, 2020, 10:25:28 pm »
but but but, we take a lot of threes!  record breaking! 

i'd be awaiting the NCAA invitation based on that alone

We shot 17 threes, one more than our season low. How many should we take? 10? 5?

We just didn't make enough big shots, period. We're up 52-51 with four minutes to go and then this sequence: Olaniyi missed layup, Olaniyi miss from four feet on the inbounds, Foreman missed layup, Marks three, Olaniyi missed layup, Foreman missed layup, Marks three. Three-and-a-half minutes with your season on the line and no points. That's your ball game.

It sure was exciting to climb back into it. The place was rocking. And I'm proud of the community for showing up amid all the fears.  But I thought Gallagher and Carter put on a clinic. Sooooo many cutters who got easy looks for Hartford as a result of a free-flowing offense, and Carter worked magic with the pick and pop/roll. Re: Gallagher, even the technical foul swung the momentum in their favor. Fouls were 9-1 at that point, and then the zebras were looking for every opportunity to blow the whistle on us. It all evened out.

Australian guys were 11 for 16 from three against us the last two games. Where can we get one of them? They got nice production from Mitchell and Dunne off the bench too. On the other hand, we had four – count em FOUR – scorers, this after having five guys in double figures on Saturday.

Underrated headline: Ellison and Marks playing the last 8-10 minutes with four fouls apiece. We tried to flop to draw their fifth rather than attacking them specifically. We did go to the rim a lot. In fact, the three threes we did make weren't within the flow of offense at all. We didn't have much flow. Pretty much just guys attempting to take their defender off the dribble and draw contact.

I'm sure we'll get a CIT or CBI invite. That's if the tournaments are even held with this corona virus craze. And who knows if we even accept?

Looking past the postseason to 2020-21 ... does Christie return? Does Garcia? Does Foreman? My guess, with no inside knowledge at all, is no, no, yes. Never know with Chef and Mac either. There's pretty much no path to additional playing time.
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Re: Game 33: AE semis vs. Hartford, 3/9 7pm
« Reply #40 on: March 10, 2020, 10:41:05 pm »
well here are some season ending (do we get a post-season invitation?) thoughts...

-it's better than the first round bingo loss (right?)

-we simply don't pass the ball (14-5 assists?  that's consistent with the entire season)

-what good are all these 20 win seasons if we almost never win in the tournament


otherwise:

-vermont wins, but BC gave a fight

-certainly a lot of charging calls tonight; gueye played well, latimer on d, garcia decent all around; lots of steals tonight

-we never talk about it but i think pav/wincott are very good at broadcasting

-checkie, as always, your content is so good i'd pay for it

GO SB

Some additional thoughts to your thoughts:

- Yes, better than the first round loss last year, but a win tonight would have made it a successful season, with a winnable game at Vermont.  Failure to take advantage of the #2 seed, makes it just an OK season at 20-13;

- Our offense is really stagnant.  Lots of hanging around and dribbling around the perimeter.  Few pick-and-rolls and driving to the hole, although we had a flurry in the 2nd half, where we were attacking the basket;

- Yeah, we never win the tournament (except for '16), and IMO, this league has gotten stronger and has more parity.  Unfortunately, we live in the age of Grad Transfers (call it College free agency), and I think we need to dip in this market a bit to compete.  Look at Hartford, they graduated 5 seniors last year, and they are going to the finals, on the backs of Ellison and Carter;

- I was at the game tonight, but Pav/Wincott do an awesome job all season IMO;

- Special shut-out to our man Checkmate, who always keeps us plugged in on game day, with his great analysis.  We better not lose Checkmate to a "grad transfer" :)

- I thought the refs sucked tonight, to be honest, and it went both ways.  Don't think they decided the game, but very uneven officiating;

- Lots of Geno boo-birds tonight.  Didn't coach his best game; didn't switch on the picks that gave Hartford a lot of open 3 looks.  Overall, I think he did an admirable job this season.  He's brutally honest which I like, and I think he's good for team chemistry.  I'd like to see him develop a better offensive strategy, and pound the rock more.  Hopefully, he can work on this for next season;

- With the addition of Policelli, and hopefully (!) retaining Garcia (who has NY roots), we can come back stronger next year.  I'd like us to pick up a "free agent" or 2 off the portal as well, possibly displacing a few of the guys at the very end of the bench.  Scholarships are guaranteed beyond 1 year, right?

- My final thought is that with Coronavirus causing the Ivy League to cancel their tournament, I'm thinking tournaments like the CIT and CBI (if I have the acronyms right) may never even get off the ground.  These tournaments usually don't make money for the hosting teams to begin with, so I think the virus may be the deathknell for these tournaments this year.
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Re: Game 33: AE semis vs. Hartford, 3/9 7pm
« Reply #41 on: March 10, 2020, 10:47:03 pm »
hard to defend any when the % is 17, and the shot selection was poor (contested, running right down and slinging it, off balance, no attempt to work inside, deep, etc).  even our scores were somewhat flung up there.  were easy to scout.  and therefore, defend.  19 points in the first half should prove it.

we should take as many as present themselves properly.  the three point attempt is a tool, not a strategy.  if you work inside, contract a defense, move the ball around and get an open look with the right shooter- and the situation is right (meaning not up 7 with 1 minute left), fire away.  this is 101 obviously.

but running down and flinging up an airball without even looking to see if your wings or post are open is selfish, get rick quick, type of bball.  hard to argue it's not our strategy when we sometimes take over 30 a game, hit 8, and then lose by a few.  and its why we lose.  and gallagher knows it.  so does ford and becker. 

we don't use the shot clock.  we dont control the tempo.  we dont create offense (easy shots) because we dont pass.  know who does?  vermont.  know who else?  teams you see on national tv.

and for some reason- our program touts all these attempts.  like that's a good thing.  in fact, i'd argue it's the reason we sometimes lose.
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Re: Game 33: AE semis vs. Hartford, 3/9 7pm
« Reply #42 on: March 10, 2020, 10:55:04 pm »
Looking past the postseason to 2020-21 ... does Christie return? Does Garcia? Does Foreman? My guess, with no inside knowledge at all, is no, no, yes. Never know with Chef and Mac either. There's pretty much no path to additional playing time.

Hear are my thoughts:

- Christie will transfer or be cut;

- I hope you are wrong about Garcia.  He's not a Yeboah, but could probably play in the A10 with some decent minutes (maybe 10-20 a night, not 30+ he's getting here).  He was recruited by Pikiell, so there is always the chance that he gets poached by Rutgers, but I can't see him getting the more than 10 minutes per game there.  In any event, let the Garcia watch begin;

- Where is Foreman going to be given the keys to the kingdom, like he has at Stony Brook.  Not sure he can transfer again as a Grad student (prob can), but I fully expect he'll be back;

- Chef and Mac will be Seniors; they will both be back, and would need to sit a year on a transfer;

- Jeff can't be happy with his declining minutes, but as a Senior, he'd have to sit out a year on a transfer.  He'll be back IMO;

- I think TPP is possible flight risk.  IMO, he has terrible body language with the Coach, and if everyone is back, his minutes will be squeezed.  I could see him looking to transfer;
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Re: Game 33: AE semis vs. Hartford, 3/9 7pm
« Reply #43 on: March 10, 2020, 10:56:44 pm »
Watch KK Hilaire on Friday. That's the kind of player we need on this team. Just not enough creativity and distribution at this point on the men's side.

It's worth noting that UVM has a transfer from Oklahoma State and GW coming next season. The latter started 45 games over two seasons. So I'm going to go ahead and assume we're NOT the favorite in anything until we seize the position from Vermont.
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Re: Game 33: AE semis vs. Hartford, 3/9 7pm
« Reply #44 on: March 10, 2020, 10:58:59 pm »
Looking past the postseason to 2020-21 ... does Christie return? Does Garcia? Does Foreman? My guess, with no inside knowledge at all, is no, no, yes. Never know with Chef and Mac either. There's pretty much no path to additional playing time.

Hear are my thoughts:

- Christie will transfer or be cut;

- I hope you are wrong about Garcia.  He's not a Yeboah, but could probably play in the A10 with some decent minutes (maybe 10-20 a night, not 30+ he's getting here).  He was recruited by Pikiell, so there is always the chance that he gets poached by Rutgers, but I can't see him getting the more than 10 minutes per game there.  In any event, let the Garcia watch begin;

- Where is Foreman going to be given the keys to the kingdom, like he has at Stony Brook.  Not sure he can transfer again as a Grad student (prob can), but I fully expect he'll be back;

- Chef and Mac will be Seniors; they will both be back, and would need to sit a year on a transfer;

- Jeff can't be happy with his declining minutes, but as a Senior, he'd have to sit out a year on a transfer.  He'll be back IMO;

- I think TPP is possible flight risk.  IMO, he has terrible body language with the Coach, and if everyone is back, his minutes will be squeezed.  I could see him looking to transfer;

If they stay D-I. Almonacy led SNHU in minutes and Long was at almost 30 a night himself. Think they're looking back?
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