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Game 29: vs. Vermont 2/24
« on: February 22, 2018, 11:44:08 am »
VERMONT
Record:
23-6 (13-1 America East)
Last Game: W, 75-54, vs. Binghamton 2/21
Last 10: 9-1
Last Meeting: Vermont 73-62 on 1/13/18; Junior Saintel team-high 18; UVM 17-4 edge on FTs; SBU 6 for 24 from three; SBU 14 offensive rebounds
CM Unofficial Line: Vermont -8.5
KenPom RPI: Stony Brook 236, Vermont 65
KenPom Prediction: Vermont 72, Stony Brook 64
Listen/Watch:
TV: http://www.espn.com/watch/_/id/3273774/vermont-vs-stony-brook-m-basketball
Vermont radio: http://www.1013espn.com/
Stony Brook radio: http://www.943theshark.com/listenlive.aspx
Notables:
6-2/180 sr G Trae Bell-Haynes 14.8 ppg, 4.1 rpg, 3.9 apg, 1.2 spg, .513 FG%
6-8/215 sr F Payton Henson 11.9 ppg, 5.6 rpg, .789 FT%, .390 3-pt FG%
6-3/190 rjr G Ernie Duncan 11.6 ppg, .468 3-pt FG%, .859 FT%, .410 3-pt FG%
6-8/220 sr F Drew Urquhart 10.4 ppg, 4.8 rpg, .641 FG%
6-6/190 rso G Everett Duncan 6.4 ppg, 3.8 rpg, .492 FG%, .873 FT%, .473 3-pt FG%

So by beating UMBC, we guaranteed that it won't be a 20-loss season. Not this major feather in your cap, but better not to have a number in the 20s on the right side of your record. But even bigger, we somehow have a chance to get to .500 in conference with what would be an enormous conquest this weekend.

Yeah, Vermont's AE win streak was snapped by Hartford on Sunday, but let's not lose sight of how dominant they have been – 13 conference wins, TWELVE by double digits. If you take it back to last year, 26 of their 32 conference wins (including the tournament) have been by 10-plus. I'd love to see how that stacks up against the rest of the country. I don't think any of these tournament teams would be too excited about seeing the Catamounts in a 5/12 or 4/13 matchup – I can't see them being higher with only one top 100 win (#91 Northern Kentucky on a neutral floor). And this is without Anthony Lamb. Can you imagine how dangerous they would look if he was healthy???

We've done an excellent job on the defensive side of the ball the last couple games, holding UMBC under 60 and stymying UNH in the second half. This isn't news to anyone, but we have to give an A effort to pull out a W on Saturday. The crowd needs to be loud and proud. That energy can make a difference.

The guy I hate seeing in our building? Ernie Duncan. He hasn't been the 20-point-a-game guy that I thought he'd be, but he's had field days here before – 23 two years ago, 22 last year. Duncan only had 11 in the conference title game here a couple years ago, but I recall thinking, from a UVM perspective, that they needed to "GIVE HIM THE DAMN BALL!" He had eight in the first half, and not enough touches in the second half as we made our comeback.

We know what we're going to see from a lot of these guys, but UVM has really gotten some big efforts from Urquhart over the last month. He's strung together eight consecutive double-digit scoring nights, easily the longest of his career – he'd had just 11 such games over his previous three seasons in Burlington. Over the eight-game stretch, he's averaged 15 points and 7.5 boards, a very nice contribution on the block for an AE guy.

Vermont shoots better than 40 percent from three. Get out and defend, boys.

And lastly, I'm on a roll with guessing these lines!
"Of all the money e'er I had, I spent it in good company." – The Clancy Brothers, "The Parting Glass"

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Re: Game 29: vs. Vermont 2/24
« Reply #1 on: February 22, 2018, 12:15:14 pm »
A know a couple of good wins can color one's glasses in all matters, but I like what Boals seems to be doing in terms of tightening up rotations. I suppose matchups/fouls could dictate otherwise, but it appears he's trimmed off Almonacy and Garcia completely for the year and he's down to 10 which I have to assume is the final tuneup for the only potential path to success left--getting at least one AE playoff win (which would be a success this year) and anything beyond that is something between excellent and a miracle.

From what I gather UVM has locked up #1 in the conference, but I wouldn't think that means anything regarding this game. If SBU keeps it close down the wire or anything better, I'll reopen my mind to believing.

PS, I don't keep up with these things, but I seem to recall hearing way back that Lamb *might* come back for UVM this year late? Is that still possible, or is he done?

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Re: Game 29: vs. Vermont 2/24
« Reply #2 on: February 22, 2018, 12:16:07 pm »
i think if sturdy gets 25min and he spends most of it at the top of the key behind the arc, we get crushed on boards.  we'll likely get crushed on boards anyway.  which means we will need to shoot lights out because we aint getting second chances.  and we dont always shoot lights out.

GO SB
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Re: Game 29: vs. Vermont 2/24
« Reply #3 on: February 22, 2018, 12:27:31 pm »
I'm going against the grain and be perfectly fine with VT taking this one. IF SB wins it will feel good for a day, but doesn't mean much for this season. VT has a chance to represent the conference as a 13 or even 12 seed in the NCAA tournament....and maybe actually win a game. If they lose a conference game at this point it could cost them a spot or two in the seeding.

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Re: Game 29: vs. Vermont 2/24
« Reply #4 on: February 22, 2018, 12:52:09 pm »
i think if sturdy gets 25min and he spends most of it at the top of the key behind the arc, we get crushed on boards.  we'll likely get crushed on boards anyway.  which means we will need to shoot lights out because we aint getting second chances.  and we dont always shoot lights out.

GO SB

UVM is third in the league in board and we're fourth. They're LAST in offensive rebounds and we're first in part because, well, you know, they miss less than we do.  ;D
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Re: Game 29: vs. Vermont 2/24
« Reply #5 on: February 22, 2018, 01:09:42 pm »
I'm going against the grain and be perfectly fine with VT taking this one. IF SB wins it will feel good for a day, but doesn't mean much for this season. VT has a chance to represent the conference as a 13 or even 12 seed in the NCAA tournament....and maybe actually win a game. If they lose a conference game at this point it could cost them a spot or two in the seeding.

I saw somewhere, V was projected a 11 seed before that conference lost..

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Re: Game 29: vs. Vermont 2/24
« Reply #6 on: February 22, 2018, 01:11:40 pm »
i think if sturdy gets 25min and he spends most of it at the top of the key behind the arc, we get crushed on boards.  we'll likely get crushed on boards anyway.  which means we will need to shoot lights out because we aint getting second chances.  and we dont always shoot lights out.

GO SB

I used to be a Sturdy fan but the last two seasons I noticed he stops trying hard mid way through the season. AS if he gives up. I dont like seeing that in a player.

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Re: Game 29: vs. Vermont 2/24
« Reply #7 on: February 22, 2018, 03:39:08 pm »
I'm going against the grain and be perfectly fine with VT taking this one. IF SB wins it will feel good for a day, but doesn't mean much for this season. VT has a chance to represent the conference as a 13 or even 12 seed in the NCAA tournament....and maybe actually win a game. If they lose a conference game at this point it could cost them a spot or two in the seeding.

Which is wholly irrelevant. Whether you're an 11 or a 14, you're going to be getting a solid opponent round one. Upsets have happened and will happen regardless. We got the crappy end of the stick by drawing Kentucky a couple years back, but really, being a 12 opposed to a 13 isn't worth us not giving full effort. I say we try to win this one, and win some games in the tournament. This year has been abysmal, but it's not quite over yet. Don't forget we kept up with some good teams earlier in the year.

If nothing else, I'd at least love to knock Albany out of the tournament in the 4v5 game. That'd be a nice cap to the season  ;D

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Re: Game 29: vs. Vermont 2/24
« Reply #8 on: February 22, 2018, 03:43:07 pm »
I'm going against the grain and be perfectly fine with VT taking this one. IF SB wins it will feel good for a day, but doesn't mean much for this season. VT has a chance to represent the conference as a 13 or even 12 seed in the NCAA tournament....and maybe actually win a game. If they lose a conference game at this point it could cost them a spot or two in the seeding.

Which is wholly irrelevant. Whether you're an 11 or a 14, you're going to be getting a solid opponent round one. Upsets have happened and will happen regardless. We got the crappy end of the stick by drawing Kentucky a couple years back, but really, being a 12 opposed to a 13 isn't worth us not giving full effort. I say we try to win this one, and win some games in the tournament. This year has been abysmal, but it's not quite over yet. Don't forget we kept up with some good teams earlier in the year.

If nothing else, I'd at least love to knock Albany out of the tournament in the 4v5 game. That'd be a nice cap to the season  ;D
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Re: Game 29: vs. Vermont 2/24
« Reply #9 on: February 22, 2018, 05:20:16 pm »
I'm going against the grain and be perfectly fine with VT taking this one. IF SB wins it will feel good for a day, but doesn't mean much for this season. VT has a chance to represent the conference as a 13 or even 12 seed in the NCAA tournament....and maybe actually win a game. If they lose a conference game at this point it could cost them a spot or two in the seeding.

I don't know. If SBU doesn't get in I really don't care. In fact, I'd probably prefer if Maine or Bing gets it, just for laughs. Let them dogs have their day. I don't think it makes a lick of difference for this conference. But that's just me, and probably this all explains why nobody has offered me that AE Commish job.

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Re: Game 29: vs. Vermont 2/24
« Reply #10 on: February 23, 2018, 12:04:02 am »
I think SB has a slight advantage ending the season early, with a home game to boot. They will have a full week to rest and prepare for the first round.

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Re: Game 29: vs. Vermont 2/24
« Reply #11 on: February 23, 2018, 11:21:15 am »
At least get a win  and stay alive until the second round.   Have to give our seniors a good send off tomorrow they wont play at home after Vermont.

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Re: Game 29: vs. Vermont 2/24
« Reply #12 on: February 23, 2018, 12:01:39 pm »
OK, this is totally OT, but I didn't know where to put it:

https://sports.yahoo.com/exclusive-federal-documents-detail-sweeping-potential-ncaa-violations-involving-high-profile-players-schools-103338484.html

With all the possible sanctions coming down on big NCAA teams, will this affect the upcoming Tournament, and if so, can SBU get an at-large bid to this year's Tournament, based on the attrition of teams that this bombshell report will affect?  ???
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Re: Game 29: vs. Vermont 2/24
« Reply #13 on: February 23, 2018, 02:04:25 pm »
OK, this is totally OT, but I didn't know where to put it:

https://sports.yahoo.com/exclusive-federal-documents-detail-sweeping-potential-ncaa-violations-involving-high-profile-players-schools-103338484.html

With all the possible sanctions coming down on big NCAA teams, will this affect the upcoming Tournament, and if so, can SBU get an at-large bid to this year's Tournament, based on the attrition of teams that this bombshell report will affect?  ???

I seriously doubt it

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Re: Game 29: vs. Vermont 2/24
« Reply #14 on: February 23, 2018, 03:55:10 pm »
We need at least 20 wins with significant wins against good programs .  Not even close at this point . This NCAA /Federal deal wont even take effect for months remember these are premier programs and the NCAA .