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Quote from: Checkmate on February 23, 2019, 10:10:49 pm

All is well when the shots are falling.

Some scenarios I believe to be correct ...
If we win out, we get the #1 seed at 13-3 in conference and owning the tiebreaker over Vermont for having split the season series with #3/4 UMBC whereas they were swept.

If we finish in a tie with UMBC somehow, we lose as we'll have either been swept by UMBC OR we'll have split and UMBC wins the tiebreaker for having swept the highest seed remaining in the conference (Vermont).

If we finish in a three-way tie at 12-4 with Vermont and UMBC, UMBC gets the 1 with a 3-1 record against the group, and then I think the seeding for the 2 and 3 between us and Vermont would depend on who finishes fourth.

If we win Wednesday, our magic number for the #2 seed is 1, meaning that, assuming UMBC handles UNH in its finale, we'll have to go into either Vermont or Hartford and get a W. No easy task.

If we lose Wednesday, we drop to #3 and can't climb any higher without two wins AND either a home loss by Vermont against UMass Lowell OR a UMBC loss to UNH. OR if we all finish 12-4. See aforementioned tiebreaker scenarios.

Assuming Albany and Hartford are victorious on Wednesday, that would set up a huge clash next Saturday between the two teams in Hartford. If Albany won, they'd then have swept the season series and have the chance to steal the #4 seed with a win at Binghamton and a SBU win at Hartford on March 5.

Basically, I want no part of Albany in that first round, no matter where the game is. We can bully teams that are flimsy inside, but that's not UA.

Wow Checkmate, where'd you get that tiebreaker calculator, I want one of them   Thanks to UA tonight, who put us back at the # 2 for now.  Easiest scenario is to win out; Wed is a must win for the # 2, and UVM is beatable right now.  Hartford really playing well of late.  I'd do anything to avoid UA right now, who is on absolute fire.

2 updates (inside source):

1) Latimer, who had an ice bag on his left knee, proclaims to be alright, and was icing as a precaution;

2) Otchere is not under concussion protocol - it was the Maine kid who took the brunt of the collision, who is.  I looked online and couldn't find any reason to think that Otchere misses next game for being tossed on his Flagrant 2.  Anyone see it any differrent?

Nice win tonight.

AS far as I know you still can play the next game with a Flagrant2 . Basketball is different than football where you have to sit out a full game,

Quote from: Checkmate on February 23, 2019, 10:10:49 pm

All is well when the shots are falling.

Some scenarios I believe to be correct ...
If we win out, we get the #1 seed at 13-3 in conference and owning the tiebreaker over Vermont for having split the season series with #3/4 UMBC whereas they were swept.

If we finish in a tie with UMBC somehow, we lose as we'll have either been swept by UMBC OR we'll have split and UMBC wins the tiebreaker for having swept the highest seed remaining in the conference (Vermont).

If we finish in a three-way tie at 12-4 with Vermont and UMBC, UMBC gets the 1 with a 3-1 record against the group, and then I think the seeding for the 2 and 3 between us and Vermont would depend on who finishes fourth.

If we win Wednesday, our magic number for the #2 seed is 1, meaning that, assuming UMBC handles UNH in its finale, we'll have to go into either Vermont or Hartford and get a W. No easy task.

If we lose Wednesday, we drop to #3 and can't climb any higher without two wins AND either a home loss by Vermont against UMass Lowell OR a UMBC loss to UNH. OR if we all finish 12-4. See aforementioned tiebreaker scenarios.

Assuming Albany and Hartford are victorious on Wednesday, that would set up a huge clash next Saturday between the two teams in Hartford. If Albany won, they'd then have swept the season series and have the chance to steal the #4 seed with a win at Binghamton and a SBU win at Hartford on March 5.

Basically, I want no part of Albany in that first round, no matter where the game is. We can bully teams that are flimsy inside, but that's not UA.

Wow Checkmate, where'd you get that tiebreaker calculator, I want one of them   Thanks to UA tonight, who put us back at the # 2 for now.  Easiest scenario is to win out; Wed is a must win for the # 2, and UVM is beatable right now.  Hartford really playing well of late.  I'd do anything to avoid UA right now, who is on absolute fire.

2 updates (inside source):

1) Latimer, who had an ice bag on his left knee, proclaims to be alright, and was icing as a precaution;

2) Otchere is not under concussion protocol - it was the Maine kid who took the brunt of the collision, who is.  I looked online and couldn't find any reason to think that Otchere misses next game for being tossed on his Flagrant 2.  Anyone see it any differrent?

Nice win tonight.

Apparently, that player from Maine has a broken hand from that hard fall. It looked like to me his face hit the floor too. Poor kid. Hoping for a speedy recovery

what exactly did i miss?

and is cornish our MIP?  thoughts?

If you're talking about flagrant, you can watch ESPN3 replay at 17:49 left in 2nd half.

I’m going to agree with you avmsbu. If it had happened in reverse to one of our guys, we’d be livid. Reckless is the operative word here; not intentional. Btw, I like your idea of Mac and Cornish on the floor at the same time, especially with Latimer struggling.

Quote from: OldSeawolf on February 24, 2019, 09:35:37 am

Quote from: Chairman of the Board on February 24, 2019, 08:45:10 am

what exactly did i miss?

and is cornish our MIP?  thoughts?

If you're talking about flagrant, you can watch ESPN3 replay at 17:49 left in 2nd half.

Saw the replay last night. I don't think Otchere was trying to wipe the Maine player out, but at the same time, he hit the Maine player on the back of his elbow (with no chance of blocking the shot), and because of his momentum, ran thru the Maine player. Maybe not a dirty play, but very reckless. And while the injury was bad enough, it could have been much worse. I doubt anyone is going to agree, but I think Otchere should be suspended a game. In fact, if I was Boals, I would not wait for the AE's decision.

Agree about the suspension. I don't think there was any malicious intent, I think you just have to do it to show that you care.

If Otchere sits out UMBC will explode on Offense. I have a hunch coach B will site him out just to save face. With Latimere still playing with his shorts and worrying about his appearance, he will not be contributing any more points this season. I say this because latimere was influential for a lot of SB OOC wins in the early part of the season. That is no longer the case. He cannot be counted on to score meaningful minutes anymore this season. Because of this, SB 55- UMBC 70..

Rewatching the Fleming play, it's incredible how fast Otchere was closing ground on Fleming. If he had room for another step or two he would have had Fleming beat. I'm sitting in the stands thinking why didn't he just let him go, but he nearly made an incredible play. It's a tough situation.

This was another game among most every one this year I could not attend live, but also watched the replay recently. I know, too, a lot of buzz from across the hall in the discussion about the play with opinions that Otchere should be suspended, maybe for the rest of the year, dirty play, etc. And I know, too, from over there that a lot probably comes from a never-ending hatred for all things SBU (which I find laughingly odd in basketball because, let's be honest, SBU never...except once of course...ruins everyone else's season and goes dancing...).

But I don't think it was a purposefully dirty play by Otchere. At the worst, maybe stupid or ill-advised, but not too sure of that either.

Of course replay (and slowing down/stopping) is not real life in the moment, and at that moment in time looked to me like a huge hustle play to nearly meet Fleming at the basket and then that flash of a decision to go for the block. Of course a good player is always keyed to hustle and make a stop if possible, and that was for sure the starting point of decision for Otchere. After that, I think it was a moment of instinct to not launch to block, to pull back. And from there it looks to me momentum carried over, he did impact Fleming (although I don't see a purposeful undercut or push as others claim they see), and it was just a bad situation from there.

Of course you might think, with careful consideration, that SBU was up big at that point so just let the guy go. That probably would have been the right decision, but for those of us who have seen Otchere all year you probably have to add the element of inexperience and aggressiveness into the mix (obviously the foundation of his often foul-prone games).

In the end it still was an ugly play, and a bad outcome for Fleming that could have been worse and thankfully wasn't. Despite my own opinion that Otchere did not do this on purpose, simply considering the ugliness of the play I could imagine a one-game suspension as being appropriate. Maybe just one of those things you gotta do and move on. Guess we'll see.