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Re: Game 24: vs. Hartford 2/3
« Reply #15 on: February 03, 2018, 05:17:16 pm »
I bet the old gym was rockin' back for that run! If we only had a time machine.

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Re: Game 24: vs. Hartford 2/3
« Reply #16 on: February 03, 2018, 06:27:24 pm »
Please don’t laugh - that 1977-1978 team was special. I should know, I was an UG then and followed them in that old gym. Earl Keith was dominant, Wayne Wright got a tryout with the Knicks (wound up playing in Europe), and Larry Tillery was the best point guard ever to don a Stony Brook uniform. That team could have played and competed in the AE today. It was one of those freak things; all those talented kids playing in a DIII program. Ron Bash, their coach, wasn’t a player’s Coach. I remember him taking the air out of the ball and going 4-corners (anyone remember that term?) for almost the entire 2nd half, in their NCAA quarterfinal game; yes, this was pre-shot-clock era. Wish I could be at tonight’s game, but have some family obligations going on.
Ah I was an undergrad then too. Earl Keith was a 6’5” center but had a dominant inside game like Warney did and I think led D3 in FG%. Tilley has a sweet jumper.

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Re: Game 24: vs. Hartford 2/3
« Reply #17 on: February 03, 2018, 06:43:53 pm »
Please don’t laugh - that 1977-1978 team was special. I should know, I was an UG then and followed them in that old gym. Earl Keith was dominant, Wayne Wright got a tryout with the Knicks (wound up playing in Europe), and Larry Tillery was the best point guard ever to don a Stony Brook uniform. That team could have played and competed in the AE today. It was one of those freak things; all those talented kids playing in a DIII program. Ron Bash, their coach, wasn’t a player’s Coach. I remember him taking the air out of the ball and going 4-corners (anyone remember that term?) for almost the entire 2nd half, in their NCAA quarterfinal game; yes, this was pre-shot-clock era. Wish I could be at tonight’s game, but have some family obligations going on.
Ah I was an undergrad then too. Earl Keith was a 6’5” center but had a dominant inside game like Warney did and I think led D3 in FG%. Tilley has a sweet jumper.

I believe you’re correct about Keith. Tillery died a number of years ago-he could definitely score and dish; exceptional quickness. Only 5’10” if I recall correctly. Joe Castiglie was a great 6th man off the bench too.

The next season they were undefeated and #1 in the country until their last game of the season, and then lost in the 1st round of NCAA’s at home to Potsdam, I recall.

Ok, enough nastalgia; let’s hope we can turn things around tonight against a hot Hartford team.
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Re: Game 24: vs. Hartford 2/3
« Reply #18 on: February 03, 2018, 09:24:59 pm »
Have a great summer everyone.

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Re: Game 24: vs. Hartford 2/3
« Reply #19 on: February 03, 2018, 09:55:00 pm »
Approaching 20 losses.  This isn’t working. 

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Re: Game 24: vs. Hartford 2/3
« Reply #20 on: February 03, 2018, 10:15:14 pm »
This is a disaster I cant believe what I saw tonight .  Somebody better  turn this ship around quickly ,

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Re: Game 24: vs. Hartford 2/3
« Reply #21 on: February 03, 2018, 11:59:31 pm »
We just can't shoot or score with kind of consistency. Hartford's offense looked like an orchestra and ours like a garage band. Hartford just has such a nice nucleus with Lynch, Dunne, Carroll and even Blagojevic off the bench. Dunne 39 minutes, Lynch 36, Carroll 34.

Hartford cashed in on so many basket cuts either to or through Carroll. It was great to see. They ran the same play on back to back possessions in a big spot, resulting in two uncontested layups. With Pikiell, scoring points was like wringing a towel at times, and this feels similar. I don't recall feeling this way last year.

A friend says "if you look at the Kent State playbook from 10 years ago, we run the exact same plays," suggesting that Ford is the brains behind the offense.

For those who missed it, Boals sent out three freshmen to start the game. It didn't have the desired effect. All we did was trail 4-2 at the first media timeout, and we didn't score a bucket until we were 6:05 in. In the end, though, I like that we played the guys who seem like they care the most: Olaniyi 39, Yeboah 36, Iroegbu 32. UC's probably our #2 option right now – not ideal but at least he's being aggressive. This was Elijah's best game. He was all over the place, and he'll be a good player for us.

On the other hand, this was Cornish's worst game. You just sense that he's deflated and Boals is frustrated. He got a quick hook on a couple of occasions, and sat the last 6-8 minutes in favor of McKenzie.

5 for 16 on threes in the first half; 2 for 19 in the second. 7 for ***35*** overall. We handily won the turnover battle and took 19 more shots than Hartford, yet lost by nine. Pathetic no matter how you look at it.
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Re: Game 24: vs. Hartford 2/3
« Reply #22 on: February 04, 2018, 03:25:24 am »
Not watching anymore games this season. The outcome was what I expected (a loss), but the reactions in this thread make the loss seem even worse than the score would indicate. Not good.

I'm actually excited for spring sports this season as I believe our WLAX team has a legitimate shot at a national title. Even in WLAX that'd be a great win for the school. Basketball is terrible this season, but even some of the best programs have down years. All things considered, we had a good run from 09-2016, so I really can't complain too much.

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Re: Game 24: vs. Hartford 2/3
« Reply #23 on: February 04, 2018, 06:25:01 am »
We just can't shoot or score with kind of consistency. Hartford's offense looked like an orchestra and ours like a garage band. Hartford just has such a nice nucleus with Lynch, Dunne, Carroll and even Blagojevic off the bench. Dunne 39 minutes, Lynch 36, Carroll 34.

Hartford cashed in on so many basket cuts either to or through Carroll. It was great to see. They ran the same play on back to back possessions in a big spot, resulting in two uncontested layups. With Pikiell, scoring points was like wringing a towel at times, and this feels similar. I don't recall feeling this way last year.

A friend says "if you look at the Kent State playbook from 10 years ago, we run the exact same plays," suggesting that Ford is the brains behind the offense.

For those who missed it, Boals sent out three freshmen to start the game. It didn't have the desired effect. All we did was trail 4-2 at the first media timeout, and we didn't score a bucket until we were 6:05 in. In the end, though, I like that we played the guys who seem like they care the most: Olaniyi 39, Yeboah 36, Iroegbu 32. UC's probably our #2 option right now – not ideal but at least he's being aggressive. This was Elijah's best game. He was all over the place, and he'll be a good player for us.

On the other hand, this was Cornish's worst game. You just sense that he's deflated and Boals is frustrated. He got a quick hook on a couple of occasions, and sat the last 6-8 minutes in favor of McKenzie.

5 for 16 on threes in the first half; 2 for 19 in the second. 7 for ***35*** overall. We handily won the turnover battle and took 19 more shots than Hartford, yet lost by nine. Pathetic no matter how you look at it.
I like the idea Boals started his Freshmans for this game. It just gives you a glimpse how next season is going to be.

Coach Boals and Ford can't recruit. You saw that tonight with a few of them on the floor.I feel like Cornish and McKenzie are not D1 players, not by a long shot.. SB has 6 Freshmans coming in next seasons.. O'boy, this program is going to be in trouble for years to come....
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Re: Game 24: vs. Hartford 2/3
« Reply #24 on: February 04, 2018, 09:11:16 am »
I read that only 4 former players showed up from the 1977-78 Final Four team.  Besides Earl Keith, who was inducted into the Stony Brook Sports Hall of Fame, does anyone know the other 3 players that showed up and were honored?
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Re: Game 24: vs. Hartford 2/3
« Reply #25 on: February 04, 2018, 09:14:08 am »

 All things considered, we had a good run from 09-2016, so I really can't complain too much.

Guess only time will tell, but wondering if this year is a down-year blip or perhaps where this program is and we're in for a long rebuild. In hindsight it feels more and more like a lot of energy went into the Warney run-up that squeaked us into one tournament, and maybe last year we were just lucky to have a supreme floor leader who willed us to a bunch of wins in close games.

In the best cases players grow and mature at a reasonable rate, and I have a hard time imagining the returning players at SBU in the near future (no matter the freshman coming in) suddenly hanging with the always top two programs or pretty much the entire Hartford team coming back.

Kudos to Hartford. They look good this year, and I really hope somebody can push UVM at least a little bit down the stretch.

Yeah, a lot of down faces and frustration among SBU players *and* coaches right now. For anyone still hanging around to watch the final games this year, feels like it's going to be more of the same.

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Re: Game 24: vs. Hartford 2/3
« Reply #26 on: February 04, 2018, 09:45:17 am »
I tried to post today's Newsday article of SB media coverage and Hofstra media coverage of yesterday game, but this Forum is very sensitive and won't allow me, anyway. Hofstra has a full, 2 page article  and SB has about 1/5 of a page and about a 25 second read. If somebody on this forum has the "know how" with posting the two games, please feel free to do so. I find it very sad that SB athletics are just sitting back and doing nothing to change this problem...

I feel like this university is going backwards as far a getting the brand name out there, win or lose ..
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Re: Game 24: vs. Hartford 2/3
« Reply #27 on: February 04, 2018, 10:58:40 am »

 All things considered, we had a good run from 09-2016, so I really can't complain too much.

Guess only time will tell, but wondering if this year is a down-year blip or perhaps where this program is and we're in for a long rebuild. In hindsight it feels more and more like a lot of energy went into the Warney run-up that squeaked us into one tournament, and maybe last year we were just lucky to have a supreme floor leader who willed us to a bunch of wins in close games.

In the best cases players grow and mature at a reasonable rate, and I have a hard time imagining the returning players at SBU in the near future (no matter the freshman coming in) suddenly hanging with the always top two programs or pretty much the entire Hartford team coming back.

Kudos to Hartford. They look good this year, and I really hope somebody can push UVM at least a little bit down the stretch.

Yeah, a lot of down faces and frustration among SBU players *and* coaches right now. For anyone still hanging around to watch the final games this year, feels like it's going to be more of the same.

The team looks lost, the HC looks lost, and we are bewildered.  We overachieved last year, beyond anyone's expectations, but certainly our floor leader was the rock and stabilizing force for the team.  Given that Boals inherited a team that lost 4 of the starting 5 from the Championship team, I thought he did a masterful job, but maybe in retrospect, lots had to due with Lucas and Roland, and the leadership that they brought to the table.

As a team, we looked much better in our OOC games than in our Conference games this year.  That is, we have regressed as the season has progressed.  Is it possible that we are missing Sekunda more than we realize?   The horrific shooting from the field and FT line begs for a shooter or 2 to emerge.  Not sure what the rest of you guys think, but every missed shot and turnover seems to be magnified 3x to me.  I guess that's what happens when you are struggling as a team unit.
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Re: Game 24: vs. Hartford 2/3
« Reply #28 on: February 04, 2018, 11:32:25 am »
Our guys again keep looking to the bench guidance . Like what do we do now coach and stop self coaching . More than one player was coaching on the floor as the game went on  Play the game . Our guys are really lost out there . We did look better in November and December we have gone backwards since then .

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Re: Game 24: vs. Hartford 2/3
« Reply #29 on: February 04, 2018, 12:44:21 pm »
anyone want to talk about our three point game?  you know i do
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