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Game 24: vs. Hartford 2/3
« on: February 02, 2018, 12:00:19 pm »
HARTFORD
Record:
13-10 (6-3 America East)
Last Game: W, 79-62, at New Hampshire 1/31
Last 10: 7-3
Last Meeting: Stony Brook 63-61 on 1/6/18; Sturdivant late game-winning three; Yeboah and Saintel team-high 14
CM Unofficial Line: Hartford -2.5
KenPom RPI: Stony Brook 225, Hartford 222
KenPom Prediction: Stony Brook 71, Hartford 67
Listen/Watch:
TV: http://www.espn.com/watch/_/id/3273047/hartford-vs-stony-brook-m-basketball
Stony Brook radio: http://www.943theshark.com/listenlive.aspx
Notables:
6-8/220 rjr F John Carroll 15.5 ppg, 5.9 rpg, 1.1 bpg, .488 FG%
6-4/185 jr G Jason Dunne 14.8 ppg, 3.1 rpg, .791 FT%, .359 3-pt FG%
5-10/170 jr G JR Lynch 12.9 ppg, 4.3 rpg, 4.3 apg, .857 FT%, .366 3-pt FG%
6-2/215 jr G Travis Weatherington 9.1 ppg, .493 FG%, .471 3-pt FG%
6-10/270 sr C Hassan Attia 7.8 ppg, 5.4 rpg, 2.0 bpg, .710 FG%

Before you get all worked up about the recent stretch, let's look at the schedule ahead. After this one, we face the four worst teams in the AE (if you take out us ... ;D) so it's possible ... POSSIBLE ... that we can string together some wins here. KenPom, FWIW, has us winning the next five. But that's just a website spewing out results based on statistics. We've watched this team. Nothing is guaranteed.

I think everyone should be realistic about the lineups going forward. We're not going to abandon what we're doing and give the kids a majority of the minutes. That said, we're all clamoring for at least a slightly bigger glimpse of the youngsters, especially Ochefu, recently with McKenzie and possibly with Garcia. I don't think 12-15 minutes for any of them is a crazy maneuver where we're upsetting the apple cart. Especially with Chef and Mac, I feel like they've shown enough to warrant it. I was hoping that Garcia would be farther along, but of course he's getting his legs under him.

I love the Hartford game because of the potential Attia/Petras matchup. They're the two biggest guys in the league, no?

Hartford's coming off an impressive win up in Durham, with the team going 11 for 20 from deep and shooting 55 percent from the field overall. On the season and for the conference slate as well, they're behind only Vermont in terms of PPG, FG% and 3-pt FG%. As we've discussed ad nauseam in this space, their and many teams' success depends on whether the three's going down. The Hawks are 18 for 64 (.281) from deep in their losses  and 53 for 113 (.469) in their wins. I'm too depressed to compute those numbers for us.

The key point total is 70. They're 6-0 in conference when they score more than 70, 0-3 when they don't. I chose a more notable number, but you can actually bring that down to 62. Hartford has scored 61 (us), 56 (UMBC) and 53 points (UVM) in their AE losses, and topped 75 in all but one of their wins.

I'm happy for them though. It's been a real bad stretch for them, but Gallagher has them pointing in the right direction. They should be a top two or three team next year with almost everybody back; maybe even challenge for a tournament bid. But for one night, if you were there for it, I'm in agreement with the students – HUCK FARTFORD.
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Re: Game 24: vs. Hartford 2/3
« Reply #1 on: February 02, 2018, 12:27:10 pm »
Pull a Joe Madden- mix it up and start MacKenzie, Garcia, Olaniyi, Ochefu and Yeboah.

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Re: Game 24: vs. Hartford 2/3
« Reply #2 on: February 02, 2018, 12:49:04 pm »
lets see how we stack up against a team with a bona fide center.
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Re: Game 24: vs. Hartford 2/3
« Reply #3 on: February 02, 2018, 01:59:39 pm »
lets see how we stack up against a team with a bona fide center.

Attia hasn't really hurt us, in part because he's always in foul trouble. He's pretty limited offensively also. That said, he's a good big for this conference.
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Re: Game 24: vs. Hartford 2/3
« Reply #4 on: February 02, 2018, 02:06:24 pm »
Dare I say, in the small world of AE hoops all the games on Saturday have interesting lines:

UNH@UA, tied at 5-4 and in the thick of that 3/4/5 battle in the AE.
Bing@Maine, Can the winner move/trend up and out of the dreaded cellar and 8 spot?
UVM@UMBC, opening a new arena and can UMBC make some real noise in the standings only place it really counts?
our game...is Hartford really, truly, actually near the top of the AE for once or can SBU show some signs of life?

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Re: Game 24: vs. Hartford 2/3
« Reply #5 on: February 02, 2018, 03:06:12 pm »
Dare I say, in the small world of AE hoops all the games on Saturday have interesting lines:

UNH@UA, tied at 5-4 and in the thick of that 3/4/5 battle in the AE.
Bing@Maine, Can the winner move/trend up and out of the dreaded cellar and 8 spot?
UVM@UMBC, opening a new arena and can UMBC make some real noise in the standings only place it really counts?
our game...is Hartford really, truly, actually near the top of the AE for once or can SBU show some signs of life?

One thing is for certain. We lose to Hartford and cap of a 0-3 home stretch....

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Re: Game 24: vs. Hartford 2/3
« Reply #6 on: February 02, 2018, 03:26:36 pm »
Dare I say, in the small world of AE hoops all the games on Saturday have interesting lines:

UNH@UA, tied at 5-4 and in the thick of that 3/4/5 battle in the AE.
Bing@Maine, Can the winner move/trend up and out of the dreaded cellar and 8 spot?
UVM@UMBC, opening a new arena and can UMBC make some real noise in the standings only place it really counts?
our game...is Hartford really, truly, actually near the top of the AE for once or can SBU show some signs of life?

One thing is for certain. We lose to Hartford and cap of a 0-3 home stretch....

I'll go with probably the safest picks in each game: UA, Maine, UVM...and Fartford.

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Re: Game 24: vs. Hartford 2/3
« Reply #7 on: February 02, 2018, 05:15:59 pm »
Hopefully not a painful experience  tomorrow night. Hey we are  wearing 1978 throwback uniforms in celebration of reaching the Div 3 Final 4 in 1978.

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Re: Game 24: vs. Hartford 2/3
« Reply #8 on: February 02, 2018, 06:58:31 pm »
Hopefully not a painful experience  tomorrow night. Hey we are  wearing 1978 throwback uniforms in celebration of reaching the Div 3 Final 4 in 1978.
That D3 team might be able to beat this team.

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Re: Game 24: vs. Hartford 2/3
« Reply #9 on: February 02, 2018, 08:02:25 pm »
LOL 

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Re: Game 24: vs. Hartford 2/3
« Reply #10 on: February 03, 2018, 12:34:49 pm »
Please don’t laugh - that 1977-1978 team was special. I should know, I was an UG then and followed them in that old gym. Earl Keith was dominant, Wayne Wright got a tryout with the Knicks (wound up playing in Europe), and Larry Tillery was the best point guard ever to don a Stony Brook uniform. That team could have played and competed in the AE today. It was one of those freak things; all those talented kids playing in a DIII program. Ron Bash, their coach, wasn’t a player’s Coach. I remember him taking the air out of the ball and going 4-corners (anyone remember that term?) for almost the entire 2nd half, in their NCAA quarterfinal game; yes, this was pre-shot-clock era. Wish I could be at tonight’s game, but have some family obligations going on.
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Re: Game 24: vs. Hartford 2/3
« Reply #11 on: February 03, 2018, 01:46:43 pm »
Please don’t laugh - that 1977-1978 team was special. I should know, I was an UG then and followed them in that old gym. Earl Keith was dominant, Wayne Wright got a tryout with the Knicks (wound up playing in Europe), and Larry Tillery was the best point guard ever to don a Stony Brook uniform. That team could have played and competed in the AE today. It was one of those freak things; all those talented kids playing in a DIII program. Ron Bash, their coach, wasn’t a player’s Coach. I remember him taking the air out of the ball and going 4-corners (anyone remember that term?) for almost the entire 2nd half, in their NCAA quarterfinal game; yes, this was pre-shot-clock era. Wish I could be at tonight’s game, but have some family obligations going on.

Awesome, and I wish we could see a highlight reel of this team. Have to assume the shorts were pretty short, too, and wondering if we'll see that look tonight. That year I was getting my butt kicked a couple times a week by a few future NBAers in the high school conference I was in, many time zones from here. Those were the days....

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« Reply #12 on: February 03, 2018, 02:00:12 pm »
Please don’t laugh - that 1977-1978 team was special. I should know, I was an UG then and followed them in that old gym. Earl Keith was dominant, Wayne Wright got a tryout with the Knicks (wound up playing in Europe), and Larry Tillery was the best point guard ever to don a Stony Brook uniform. That team could have played and competed in the AE today. It was one of those freak things; all those talented kids playing in a DIII program. Ron Bash, their coach, wasn’t a player’s Coach. I remember him taking the air out of the ball and going 4-corners (anyone remember that term?) for almost the entire 2nd half, in their NCAA quarterfinal game; yes, this was pre-shot-clock era. Wish I could be at tonight’s game, but have some family obligations going on.

Awesome, and I wish we could see a highlight reel of this team. Have to assume the shorts were pretty short, too, and wondering if we'll see that look tonight. That year I was getting my butt kicked a couple times a week by a few future NBAers in the high school conference I was in, many time zones from here. Those were the days....

Man, I wish that existed; I would love to see those highlights.  I remember the NCAA tournament games were shown around campus on "closed-circuit TV" (remember that?), and I remember watching the quarterfinal win vs. Brandeis, but for the life of me, I cannot remember who we lost to in the semis.  We played in the dusty old gym, which subsequently got refurbished into the auxiliary gym, where Pikiell's team played in for a few years, while the main stadium got refurbished.  They had high-school-like bleachers, and I remember attendance that year being measured at consistently 2,000+ per game (which was pretty cool for the era and venue).  Yeah, the shorts were short, but that was par for the course back then. 

What state did you play HS ball in?   I'm going to guess CA, based on your comment.
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Re: Game 24: vs. Hartford 2/3
« Reply #13 on: February 03, 2018, 03:02:50 pm »
anyone have photos the uniforms anywhere?  old or new!

widener and albion: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1978_NCAA_Division_III_Basketball_Tournament#Championship_Rounds
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« Reply #14 on: February 03, 2018, 03:17:31 pm »
anyone have photos the uniforms anywhere?  old or new!

widener and albion: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1978_NCAA_Division_III_Basketball_Tournament#Championship_Rounds

Nice link reference!  Widener.....ughh!
How old a Seawolf am I? I followed them during their Final 4 DIII hoops run in 1977-78 (they were called the Patriots then)