Author Topic: Game 20: v. UMBC 1/25 (Read 889 times)

Checkmate · « **on:** January 23, 2017, 11:46:19 am »

UMBC
Record: 13-6 (4-2 America East)
Last Game: W, 102-86, at UMass Lowell 1/22
Last 10: 6-4
Last Season: SBU 86-74 here; SBU 75-52 there; SBU 86-76 here (AE Tournament)
Listen/Watch:
TV: http://es.pn/2i7kl8A
Stony Brook radio: http://www.whli.com/listen-live.aspx
Notables:

6-2/175 jr G Jairus Lyles 20.3 ppg, 6.9 rpg, 1.6 spg, .321 3-pt FG%
6-8/210 sr F Will Darley 14.7 ppg, 4.1 rpg, .497 FG%, .875 FT%, .418 FT%
6-6/215 so F Joe Sherburne 13.1 ppg, 4.2 rpg, .531 FG%, .844 FT%, .527 3-pt FG%
5-8/140 jr G KJ Maura 7.8 ppg, 4.3 apg, 1.8 spg, .852 FT%, .444 3-pt FG%
6-1/190 jr G Rodney Elliott 7.5 ppg, .475 FG%, .424 3-pt FG%
6-10/235 so F Nolan Gerrity 7.1 ppg, 5.5 rpg, 1.1 bpg, .625 FG%

UMBC went to back to back title games in 2008 and 2009, winning it in '08. They've had some leeeeeean years since then though, so much so that this is their first double-digit win season since that '09 year when they came out of nowhere to make the AE final before losing to Binghamton.

Win totals over the last seven seasons: 4, 5, 4, 8, 9, 4, 5. Yuck.

Enter Ryan Odom, son of longtime Wake Forest head coach Dave Odom. In his debut season on the bench, he has these Retrievers on pace for 20-plus wins, and there's a new arena set to open up later this year. So UMBC might have something here.

The differences between this year and last year are staggering. Shooting numbers are up across the board – so much so that they're up near 48 percent from the field as a team and over 40 percent from three. That's good by anyone's standards. But most of all ... they're playing some defense! Some anyway. After giving up 83 a night a year ago, that number's down to 73 this year. Opponents field goal percentage is down more than five points to .443. They're plus-five in turnover margin when compared to last year (-3.9 to +1.4). Instead of a track meet, they're digging in a bit and the results are showing.

I still don't think this is a game that's in the 60s or even the 70s. UMBC can still score, led by Lyles, who's again a favorite to lead the conference in scoring. We all should remember Darley's first half in the AE quarterfinal here last year. A huge addition was the kid Maura, who was an All-American in junior college after leading the country in assists (9.6/game). And between he, Darley, Sherburne and Elliott, they can really stroke it from distance.

I think we're all more comfortable when Sturdivant's getting the ball on the block and converting. While the three is still a big part of our game, having him up over 15 or 20 points really opens things up for the shooters. The same goes for Yeboah. We need his presence in the mid-range game.

ibosbu · « **Reply #1 on:** January 23, 2017, 12:34:58 pm »

Quote from: Checkmate on January 23, 2017, 11:46:19 am

and there's a new arena set to open up later this year. So UMBC might have something here.

I was thinking about that the other day.. in terms of ambition and spending capability, UMBC quite rivals SB at the moment in AE. Having fertile Maryland to recruit from and a brand new arena at a great location between DC and Baltimore, UMBC should stay competitive for a while...regardless of whether Odom stays past couple of seasons. UMBC HC position will be an attractive job.

ibosbu · « **Reply #2 on:** January 23, 2017, 12:55:44 pm »

I understand the frustration of many regarding Almonacy.. but we should be patient and give him time to develop. This is his first year..I am sure he will develop into a starter.. and if not then at least a good backup PG. Not everyone becomes a star player and there can be only be 5 starters. A good team is more than 5 starters.. quality deep rotation is very important.

By the way.. Was it just me or did I see some nice outlet passes from the paint from our favorite Petras

laxnation · « **Reply #3 on:** January 23, 2017, 01:23:34 pm »

UMBC is not a very well-regarded school down in Baltimore.

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ibosbu · « **Reply #4 on:** January 23, 2017, 07:53:50 pm »

It's not that bad... Pretty good in STEM fields. I know a lot kids from here, Montgomery county, goes there over UMCP.

seawolf80 · « **Reply #5 on:** January 24, 2017, 01:57:21 am »

This UMBC game begins a stretch of 3 big home games. With a new coaching staff but most of the same roster, the Retrievers have shown significant improvement. Lyles is a talented scorer and they have complementary pieces who seem to have stepped up this season. With tough games against UVM and UNH to follow, a win Wednesday would really help the Wolves in their effort to potentially secure a home game in the conference tournament. I know that is a way down the road, but it is not too early to consider it.

Seawolf97 · « **Reply #6 on:** January 24, 2017, 10:06:29 am »

Another big game in Albany Wednesday when Vermont visits the Great Danes. Love to see an Albany win . Vermont is tough again this season .

Checkmate · « **Reply #7 on:** January 24, 2017, 10:12:09 am »

Quote from: iBOsbu on January 23, 2017, 12:55:44 pm

I understand the frustration of many regarding Almonacy.. but we should be patient and give him time to develop. This is his first year..I am sure he will develop into a starter.. and if not then at least a good backup PG. Not everyone becomes a star player and there can be only be 5 starters. A good team is more than 5 starters.. quality deep rotation is very important.

By the way.. Was it just me or did I see some nice outlet passes from the paint from our favorite Petras

Somebody brought it up elsewhere. I wonder what would happen if they stuck Almonacy at the 2, ran him around a bunch of screens and/or put him in a corner, and told him to fire away. I just don't see him as a 1 here – even if we need him there this year just to give Woodhouse a blow – but couldn't he be who Iroegbu is/was at the beginning of the year, with maybe even more ability to create/make a shot? I'm really surprised by his limited role – not now because we've seen him but just based on what I saw in the preseason when he looked really good and really comfortable.

seawolf80 · « **Reply #8 on:** January 24, 2017, 01:49:59 pm »

In a strange way, I almost feel like a UVM win on Wednesday at Albany helps us. I think most of us would agree Vermont is likely to be at least a 2 seed in the conference tournament.
I think we should look at Albany as more of an obstacle for a better seeding moving forward. Just a thought.

laxnation · « **Reply #9 on:** January 24, 2017, 08:24:59 pm »

Quote from: Checkmate on January 24, 2017, 10:12:09 am

Quote from: iBOsbu on January 23, 2017, 12:55:44 pm
I understand the frustration of many regarding Almonacy.. but we should be patient and give him time to develop. This is his first year..I am sure he will develop into a starter.. and if not then at least a good backup PG. Not everyone becomes a star player and there can be only be 5 starters. A good team is more than 5 starters.. quality deep rotation is very important.

By the way.. Was it just me or did I see some nice outlet passes from the paint from our favorite Petras

Somebody brought it up elsewhere. I wonder what would happen if they stuck Almonacy at the 2, ran him around a bunch of screens and/or put him in a corner, and told him to fire away. I just don't see him as a 1 here – even if we need him there this year just to give Woodhouse a blow – but couldn't he be who Iroegbu is/was at the beginning of the year, with maybe even more ability to create/make a shot? I'm really surprised by his limited role – not now because we've seen him but just based on what I saw in the preseason when he looked really good and really comfortable.

Almonacy is way too small to play the 2. I think Almonacy only fits as a backup PG at Stony Brook. I really feel his best fit would be at a DII school. Also, I'm surprised that he doesn't have more speed and quickness.
I wouldn't be surprised if Campbell and/or Almonacy aren't on the team next season.

Checkmate · « **Reply #10 on:** January 25, 2017, 10:00:47 am »

Quote from: laxnation on January 24, 2017, 08:24:59 pm

Quote from: Checkmate on January 24, 2017, 10:12:09 am
Quote from: iBOsbu on January 23, 2017, 12:55:44 pm
I understand the frustration of many regarding Almonacy.. but we should be patient and give him time to develop. This is his first year..I am sure he will develop into a starter.. and if not then at least a good backup PG. Not everyone becomes a star player and there can be only be 5 starters. A good team is more than 5 starters.. quality deep rotation is very important.

By the way.. Was it just me or did I see some nice outlet passes from the paint from our favorite Petras

Somebody brought it up elsewhere. I wonder what would happen if they stuck Almonacy at the 2, ran him around a bunch of screens and/or put him in a corner, and told him to fire away. I just don't see him as a 1 here – even if we need him there this year just to give Woodhouse a blow – but couldn't he be who Iroegbu is/was at the beginning of the year, with maybe even more ability to create/make a shot? I'm really surprised by his limited role – not now because we've seen him but just based on what I saw in the preseason when he looked really good and really comfortable.
Almonacy is way too small to play the 2. I think Almonacy only fits as a backup PG at Stony Brook. I really feel his best fit would be at a DII school. Also, I'm surprised that he doesn't have more speed and quickness.
I wouldn't be surprised if Campbell and/or Almonacy aren't on the team next season.

Nobody's been a bigger skeptic of him since the season started and I too have thought that he may transfer out. I just have not been impressed. I keep thinking there's a switch that he can flip where he goes from being incredibly timid and overmatched to going on the offensive. I think he wants to score, but without a real first step and an inability to finish at the rim, he's basically a shooter. I actually think he's afraid to make a mistake, which is why he's so gunshy (who knows ... just speculation). I think he can really shoot it if given the chance and he's looking for his shot – as I said, basically Iroegbu, but I think he's a better shooter. Granted, if Almonacy's playing the 2, that means he's defending the 2 also, which is bad news, but can he provide any kind of offense in bursts off the bench?

I'm grasping for straws but I'd love it if he could ~~find~~ earn a bigger role off the bench.

Hammertime · « **Reply #11 on:** January 25, 2017, 11:43:18 am »

Quote from: Checkmate on January 25, 2017, 10:00:47 am

Quote from: laxnation on January 24, 2017, 08:24:59 pm
Quote from: Checkmate on January 24, 2017, 10:12:09 am
Quote from: iBOsbu on January 23, 2017, 12:55:44 pm
I understand the frustration of many regarding Almonacy.. but we should be patient and give him time to develop. This is his first year..I am sure he will develop into a starter.. and if not then at least a good backup PG. Not everyone becomes a star player and there can be only be 5 starters. A good team is more than 5 starters.. quality deep rotation is very important.

By the way.. Was it just me or did I see some nice outlet passes from the paint from our favorite Petras

Somebody brought it up elsewhere. I wonder what would happen if they stuck Almonacy at the 2, ran him around a bunch of screens and/or put him in a corner, and told him to fire away. I just don't see him as a 1 here – even if we need him there this year just to give Woodhouse a blow – but couldn't he be who Iroegbu is/was at the beginning of the year, with maybe even more ability to create/make a shot? I'm really surprised by his limited role – not now because we've seen him but just based on what I saw in the preseason when he looked really good and really comfortable.
Almonacy is way too small to play the 2. I think Almonacy only fits as a backup PG at Stony Brook. I really feel his best fit would be at a DII school. Also, I'm surprised that he doesn't have more speed and quickness.
I wouldn't be surprised if Campbell and/or Almonacy aren't on the team next season.

Nobody's been a bigger skeptic of him since the season started and I too have thought that he may transfer out. I just have not been impressed. I keep thinking there's a switch that he can flip where he goes from being incredibly timid and overmatched to going on the offensive. I think he wants to score, but without a real first step and an inability to finish at the rim, he's basically a shooter. I actually think he's afraid to make a mistake, which is why he's so gunshy (who knows ... just speculation). I think he can really shoot it if given the chance and he's looking for his shot – as I said, basically Iroegbu, but I think he's a better shooter. Granted, if Almonacy's playing the 2, that means he's defending the 2 also, which is bad news, but can he provide any kind of offense in bursts off the bench?

I'm grasping for straws but I'd love it if he could ~~find~~ earn a bigger role off the bench.

I think coach Pikiell got caught up in the moment with the Almonacy breaking the all time leading scorer thing at Brentwood. I watched Almonacy play back in high school and I thought he wasn't a Div I player. Coach Pikiell did the same thing with Mr. Michigan, Deshaun Thrower. Deshaun had no other div I offers out of High School.. Look how that turned out. And I dont mean with him getting in trouble, either. Both players are very small, under 6'.. I hope coach Boals starts recruiting taller shooting/ Point guards. Most guards are small in the AE. teams with bigger guards usually do better against smaller defenders.....

ibosbu · « **Reply #12 on:** January 25, 2017, 05:56:23 pm »

If you have snapchat, follow @marchmadness today. Stony Brook basketball taking over the handle today. Some really cool snaps. It already started and will continue until the end of the game tonight. 📸🎥

Chairman of the Board · « **Reply #13 on:** January 25, 2017, 07:23:06 pm »

huge start for mitchell.

then woody turns it on, and theyre trying to lock him. BC cold shooting for the most part.

the suits and sneakers deal for cancer is nice. GO SB

Chairman of the Board · « **Reply #14 on:** January 25, 2017, 07:53:09 pm »

BC plays FAST, but they arent finishing. it's an interesting gameplan because SB literally runs two squads of five fresh bodies.

our FTs have been great this year. nice half.

woody is becoming one of my all-time SB favorites.

tight game over at VT/UA.

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