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Hammertime

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Re: Conference Shake Up!
« Reply #15 on: May 05, 2013, 11:55:24 am »
After reading and commenting on this subject I've come to the conclusion.. I find it very difficult a state run school like Stony brook will just fall apart in regards to the Athletic dept. I mean really. Do you really think Gov Cuomo and kenneth Lavelle will allow this to happen???? I don't.. If Hofstra President continues playing hard ball with Conference banning  there could be some serious consequences with future expansions and developments with Hofstra University  in regards to State Loans.. if you know what i mean !!! So, I think the powers to be in Albany will have their way when push comes to shove !!!

Anyone else care to respond to this opinion of mine !!!!!
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Re: Conference Shake Up!
« Reply #16 on: May 05, 2013, 12:30:15 pm »
No Hammer. I honestly don't think they will go that far. They won't prioritize SBU athletics over another's schools academics and state loans, student loans, etc... But LaValle will definitely back us up in regards to future funding for facilities and support for athletics. The guy has done tons of stuff for our university when it comes to getting the $$$ to get things done.
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Re: Conference Shake Up!
« Reply #17 on: May 05, 2013, 02:54:42 pm »
  Not sure what the AE  will do if Albany bolts. Do we invite another  D1 program  or will they grab another D2 upgrade and no offense to  U Mass Lowell? This will hurt with recruiting, RPI for various sports  and corporate sponsors  which the athletics dept. is trying to build now.  We can compete at the  next level with MAC  teams, and with higher level  recruiting remain competitve  in a conference such as the MAC.The MAC I believe are mid sized or larger public   universities  some with good name recognition that is a plus .  Plus another  upside you draw home games against some BCS/FBS  programs.  I think Indiana plays at U Mass this year in football and Buffalo had  UTEP at home two years ago. True   Thats not Texas but it isnt  Pace  either.  Plus we could see some  nice hoops games in our new arena with local powers like St Johns or Seaton Hall because we are in FBS League.   
   
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Re: Conference Shake Up!
« Reply #18 on: May 06, 2013, 10:03:43 pm »
This sucks if it is true that UA moving to CAA and Hofstra is blocking us. The options ahead for us are:
1) stay as it is now...keep all sports in AE and football in CAA. AE gets weaker with UA leaving and may be finally we get to go to the dance
2) prepare to move for MAC as some suggested above. It's not impossible. But they are horrible in basketball. FBS Football is not much better either. Do we really want to follow Buffalo's footstep?
3) IMO, we should be happy with football in CAA. Keep improving our basketball and try to get an invite from Atlantic 10 for all sports. Put Lacross in CAA or ECAC. I think we can achieve this goal with hard work and dedication in next 5/6 years. A10 will most pribably lose SLU and Richmond to Big East and will be looking for new members. This scenario will gives us exciting top class CAA FCS football, excellent multi-bids A10 hoops, stable lacross CAA/ECAC competition and weak A10 baseball. I will take that.
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« Reply #19 on: May 06, 2013, 10:08:03 pm »
Why are we even worried about staying in the AE. What's the problem with that? I don't mind at this point. The CAA sucks. It had a worst RPI than the AEC this year. The CAA is no longer what it was two years ago. It has been raided and the leftovers are not good enough to justify such a move with a $1 million exit fee in case we want to move out in the future. The only positive out of the CAA for us would be playing Hofstra which I would love to see... But is it worth it? hofstra sucks now... whats the point?

Jim Fiore has to keep us in the AEC and get us to a better place in the future. CAA lost its Men's Basketball appeal so no reason to consider that
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Re: Conference Shake Up!
« Reply #20 on: May 07, 2013, 06:13:27 am »
IboSBU .. i agree with moving all sports to The A10, but SB just got in the CAA so a total move in the a10 is not feasible .. I wonder if Fiore thought about this long and hard before committing SB Football to the CAA and leaving the others ports in the AE..Fiore Had to Know Hofstra was going to block him from completely being a full member. Could our backs be against the wall now?
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« Reply #21 on: May 07, 2013, 12:31:15 pm »
Hammertime... When I say all sports to A10, I mean except football and lacrosse because A10 does not sponsor those two sports. Similar to what URI, Nova or Umass are doing. URI play all sports in A10 exxcept football in CAA. NOVA plays all sports in Big east except football in CAA. UMass plays all sports in A10, football in MAC and lacrosse in CAA.

I think we should stay put in AE for the time being and get some name recognition first by going to the dance few times. Then move to A10 for all sports except football and lacrosse in CAA.

For now AE is fine and probably we can increase our value like Davidson.
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Re: Conference Shake Up!
« Reply #22 on: May 07, 2013, 01:45:53 pm »
I pains me that Albany will move to the CAA but Stony Brook won't. 

Come on Brook...make the jump....
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« Reply #23 on: May 07, 2013, 02:19:16 pm »
Final Sagarin rating of CAA in hoops was 17th; AEC was 19th....not much difference, and not much to jump to!
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Re: Conference Shake Up!
« Reply #24 on: May 07, 2013, 02:19:56 pm »
Pains you? Really? have you though about what the CAA offers?

Realtime RPI has the AE at 22nd in RPI, CAA at 24th...

No thanks
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Re: Conference Shake Up!
« Reply #25 on: May 07, 2013, 03:02:56 pm »
Ugh, i just wish this whole conference nonsense thing didnt happen.  Back in the day, sure teams moved around, but now its to the point where conferences are "commoditized".  Its whoever has value as a member, you jump now, and if the conference needs you, its a deal.  I mean, we are at the point (im looking at you Big East) where teams promise to move to a conference and then agree to go elsewhere before they even start competing in that conference.  Its insane. 

In the old days, conference affiliation meant something.  Like schools, in like regions, with like students, and that created rivalries.  Much like the Ivy is now.  I respect how that conference has held it together.
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« Reply #26 on: May 07, 2013, 04:15:16 pm »
money ( or Capitalism, greed, etc) ends up corrupting every sector of society if its left without regulation and that does not exclude intercollegiate athletics. A large group of school need to get together and regulate themselves on what's right and wrong for the best of all. This is only hurting college athletes and the fans.

Or maybe the Government can come in a regulate the collegiate landscape
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Re: Conference Shake Up!
« Reply #27 on: May 07, 2013, 04:23:44 pm »
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Or maybe the Government can come in a regulate

Quite the poor timing on that argument!!!   ;D ;D :D
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Re: Conference Shake Up!
« Reply #28 on: May 07, 2013, 07:50:50 pm »
The very last thing you want to happen is have the govt take over anything!!!
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« Reply #29 on: May 07, 2013, 08:35:11 pm »
LOOOOOL
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