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Re: 2018 Recruiting
« Reply #180 on: February 22, 2018, 01:11:43 pm »
We can only hope at this point that a decent big for the AE is on the radar .  Ochefu is 6'8 and Christi is 7 ft. need a 6'10 type in there to balance things .  Someone who is defensively minded but could give us 10-12 points in a game.

I thought Almonacy wouldn't be on the team after last year. I believe it to be even more likely now with Cornish, McKenzie and (probably) Long back, and with Ceesay and Latimer on their way.

Any movement would open up a much needed roster spot.

Are Ceesay and Latimer considered to be point guard material?   Neither Cornish or McKenzie are starting point material, IMO.

I think McKenzie could be a solid starting PG and is already showing signs as a freshman. I suspect his outside shot will get there. In general, I think overall the team will take a step forward next year and even Boals is learning.

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« Reply #181 on: February 22, 2018, 01:13:05 pm »
We can only hope at this point that a decent big for the AE is on the radar .  Ochefu is 6'8 and Christi is 7 ft. need a 6'10 type in there to balance things .  Someone who is defensively minded but could give us 10-12 points in a game.

I thought Almonacy wouldn't be on the team after last year. I believe it to be even more likely now with Cornish, McKenzie and (probably) Long back, and with Ceesay and Latimer on their way.

Any movement would open up a much needed roster spot.

Are Ceesay and Latimer considered to be point guard material?   Neither Cornish or McKenzie are starting point material, IMO.

I think McKenzie could be a solid starting PG and is already showing signs as a freshman. I suspect his outside shot will get there. In general, I think overall the team will take a step forward next year and even Boals is learning.

I just dont see that with McKenzie. How many points did he have yesterday? I feel like he doesnt belong in Div1..Div 2 or 3 yes..

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« Reply #182 on: February 22, 2018, 01:17:03 pm »

I just dont see that with McKenzie. How many points did he have yesterday? I feel like he doesnt belong in Div1..Div 2 or 3 yes..

He had 6 assists in 22 minutes yesterday. He just needs to work on his three ball, and he will have a very solid career at Stony Brook.

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« Reply #183 on: February 22, 2018, 01:34:13 pm »
Cornish is a stud if he could harness his athleticism. He will get a lot better over the summer, I wouldn't count him out. Latimer can help some with Bball handling duties.

Don't disagree with his athleticism - next to Saintel, probably the 2nd most athletic guy on team currently.  However, he needs to slow the game down, be a lot more prudent and judicious in his decision making, and as you state, harness that athleticism.  He is out of control currently more than he is in control.  Looking forward to seeing this Latimer kid.
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« Reply #184 on: February 22, 2018, 02:54:46 pm »
A lot of good discussion and analysis here.  And you guys certainly seem to know what you're talking about. 

So, let me ask you this.  What has diminished Almonacy and Garcia so dramatically in Coach B's mind?  Neither one of them even gets to take off his warmup jersey any more!   Almonacy was certainly a stud out of high school, and even broke Kuphak's school record!!  There was every expectation he would be Woodhouse's heir-apparent.  What the hell happened?  And, from my observations, Garcia should be a real asset, and has a good Div I body.  I think he would be great at this level!!


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« Reply #185 on: February 22, 2018, 03:01:56 pm »
A lot of good discussion and analysis here.  And you guys certainly seem to know what you're talking about. 

So, let me ask you this.  What has diminished Almonacy and Garcia so dramatically in Coach B's mind?  Neither one of them even gets to take off his warmup jersey any more!   Almonacy was certainly a stud out of high school, and even broke Kuphak's school record!!  There was every expectation he would be Woodhouse's heir-apparent.  What the hell happened?  And, from my observations, Garcia should be a real asset, and has a good Div I body.  I think he would be great at this level!!

Your guess is as good as mine, gold with Almonacy. As far as Garcia not seeing the floor very often is understandable. He is a raw as an onion. Hopefully next year he improves..

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« Reply #186 on: February 22, 2018, 03:13:49 pm »
A lot of good discussion and analysis here.  And you guys certainly seem to know what you're talking about. 

So, let me ask you this.  What has diminished Almonacy and Garcia so dramatically in Coach B's mind?  Neither one of them even gets to take off his warmup jersey any more!   Almonacy was certainly a stud out of high school, and even broke Kuphak's school record!!  There was every expectation he would be Woodhouse's heir-apparent.  What the hell happened?  And, from my observations, Garcia should be a real asset, and has a good Div I body.  I think he would be great at this level!!

Great question, re:Almonacy.  For the life of me, I cannot understand Boals' decision not to play him.  Maybe there's a problem between them.  Almonacy is always supportive on the bench, and yesterday was the first time that I actually saw disappointment in his face, when the teams were shaking hands after the game.  If there was a game to use him, yesterday's game at UMBC was the game.  The turnover barrage in the first 10 minutes of the 2nd half at point (Cornish, McKenzie, and UC) was horrendous - and they could have used a ball control person at that point.   I am as bewildered as you.

Garcia has not shown me anything.  Every time he was in he was either dropping passes or taking wild, forced shots.  For a guy whose nickname is "buckets", I have not been impressed.   Maybe he was trying to hard, trying to make up for lost time, and maybe a summer camp is what he needs to be ready for next year.

Or maybe Boals just has a really short leash for guys he didn't recruit himself.
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Re: 2018 Recruiting
« Reply #187 on: February 22, 2018, 08:32:40 pm »
We can only hope at this point that a decent big for the AE is on the radar .  Ochefu is 6'8 and Christi is 7 ft. need a 6'10 type in there to balance things .  Someone who is defensively minded but could give us 10-12 points in a game.

I thought Almonacy wouldn't be on the team after last year. I believe it to be even more likely now with Cornish, McKenzie and (probably) Long back, and with Ceesay and Latimer on their way.

Any movement would open up a much needed roster spot.

Are Ceesay and Latimer considered to be point guard material?   Neither Cornish or McKenzie are starting point material, IMO.

I think McKenzie could be a solid starting PG and is already showing signs as a freshman. I suspect his outside shot will get there. In general, I think overall the team will take a step forward next year and even Boals is learning.

I just dont see that with McKenzie. How many points did he have yesterday? I feel like he doesnt belong in Div1..Div 2 or 3 yes..

This board has a few people who cite point totals when talking about point guards. Very puzzling. They can't be a total zero in terms of their offensive ability, but if they lead the offense and take care of the ball, I'm fine with them putting up a bagel. Mac showed some more aggressiveness in the last couple games, which is much needed. He was timid the first half of the season. His issue now is his perimeter shot and staying on the floor.
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« Reply #188 on: February 22, 2018, 08:42:38 pm »
A lot of good discussion and analysis here.  And you guys certainly seem to know what you're talking about. 

So, let me ask you this.  What has diminished Almonacy and Garcia so dramatically in Coach B's mind?  Neither one of them even gets to take off his warmup jersey any more!   Almonacy was certainly a stud out of high school, and even broke Kuphak's school record!!  There was every expectation he would be Woodhouse's heir-apparent.  What the hell happened?  And, from my observations, Garcia should be a real asset, and has a good Div I body.  I think he would be great at this level!!

Great question, re:Almonacy.  For the life of me, I cannot understand Boals' decision not to play him.  Maybe there's a problem between them.  Almonacy is always supportive on the bench, and yesterday was the first time that I actually saw disappointment in his face, when the teams were shaking hands after the game.  If there was a game to use him, yesterday's game at UMBC was the game.  The turnover barrage in the first 10 minutes of the 2nd half at point (Cornish, McKenzie, and UC) was horrendous - and they could have used a ball control person at that point.   I am as bewildered as you.

Garcia has not shown me anything.  Every time he was in he was either dropping passes or taking wild, forced shots.  For a guy whose nickname is "buckets", I have not been impressed.   Maybe he was trying to hard, trying to make up for lost time, and maybe a summer camp is what he needs to be ready for next year.

Or maybe Boals just has a really short leash for guys he didn't recruit himself.

I'm surprised that Almonacy hasn't seen the floor whatsoever, but I just think it comes down to him being a tweener. He's not a good enough distributor to play the 1 and he's too small to play the 2, particularly on the defensive end. UC isn't really the prototypical 2, but he's more built, more aggressive going to the goal and is tough on D. I like Mike as a spot-up shooter but don't see him as much more than that at this level. As for your comment on him being disappointed, I think the word is disinterested. He just looks disinterested. There's no fire at all.

Agree on Garcia to this point, particularly in year two under Boals. And in his first game, I thought maybe he was a third or fourth scorer for conference play. With he and Mike, I thought maybe Boals was giving him an extended break like he did McKenzie midseason, but now I'd be surprised if we saw him the rest of the way. I'll give Garcia a longer leash.
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« Reply #189 on: February 22, 2018, 11:00:34 pm »
A lot of good discussion and analysis here.  And you guys certainly seem to know what you're talking about. 

So, let me ask you this.  What has diminished Almonacy and Garcia so dramatically in Coach B's mind?  Neither one of them even gets to take off his warmup jersey any more!   Almonacy was certainly a stud out of high school, and even broke Kuphak's school record!!  There was every expectation he would be Woodhouse's heir-apparent.  What the hell happened?  And, from my observations, Garcia should be a real asset, and has a good Div I body.  I think he would be great at this level!!

Great question, re:Almonacy.  For the life of me, I cannot understand Boals' decision not to play him.  Maybe there's a problem between them.  Almonacy is always supportive on the bench, and yesterday was the first time that I actually saw disappointment in his face, when the teams were shaking hands after the game.  If there was a game to use him, yesterday's game at UMBC was the game.  The turnover barrage in the first 10 minutes of the 2nd half at point (Cornish, McKenzie, and UC) was horrendous - and they could have used a ball control person at that point.   I am as bewildered as you.

Garcia has not shown me anything.  Every time he was in he was either dropping passes or taking wild, forced shots.  For a guy whose nickname is "buckets", I have not been impressed.   Maybe he was trying to hard, trying to make up for lost time, and maybe a summer camp is what he needs to be ready for next year.

Or maybe Boals just has a really short leash for guys he didn't recruit himself.

I'm surprised that Almonacy hasn't seen the floor whatsoever, but I just think it comes down to him being a tweener. He's not a good enough distributor to play the 1 and he's too small to play the 2, particularly on the defensive end. UC isn't really the prototypical 2, but he's more built, more aggressive going to the goal and is tough on D. I like Mike as a spot-up shooter but don't see him as much more than that at this level. As for your comment on him being disappointed, I think the word is disinterested. He just looks disinterested. There's no fire at all.

Agree on Garcia to this point, particularly in year two under Boals. And in his first game, I thought maybe he was a third or fourth scorer for conference play. With he and Mike, I thought maybe Boals was giving him an extended break like he did McKenzie midseason, but now I'd be surprised if we saw him the rest of the way. I'll give Garcia a longer leash.

I would like to have seen more of Garcia. I though he looked pretty good in the Albany game (8 pts?) and then he disappeared to the bench. But in fairness to Boals, who do you sit? The only person I could think of is Sekunda, but he's a solid defender who helps spread the floor on offense and I keep hoping he will have a lights out game from three. Maybe he's saving it for the tournament.

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Re: 2018 Recruiting
« Reply #190 on: February 26, 2018, 10:12:20 am »
weve got an offer out to carlos dotson, a juco center from the anderson / college of central florida. https://www.verbalcommits.com/players/carlos-dotson
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« Reply #191 on: February 26, 2018, 10:16:55 am »
http://www.cfpatriots.net/sports/mbkb/2017-18/bios/dotson_carlos_bxh9

http://www.autrojans.com/sports/mbkb/2016-17/bios/dotson_carlos_wryl

nagging ankle injury and redshirt: http://www.jucorecruiting.com/news_article/show/806479

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Dotson: Scoring with my back to the basket is my biggest strength.  I have multiple moves that I can go to in the post and confident around the basket. I also do a good job of rebounding the basket on both ends.



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« Reply #192 on: February 26, 2018, 10:18:08 am »
 He seems a little small at 6'7 to play center.   I would have hoped for 6'8 or little larger but if he can score nd rebound we can take him .

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« Reply #193 on: February 26, 2018, 10:20:38 am »
that's what im thinking too- at this point, with our hopes resting on ochefu and christie, we simply need more bigs.  even if an inch or two short, if he can play with his back to the hoop (in the AE!) he'll find success and provide us some much needed muscle.  also for whatever it's worth he's heavier than warney, so his 6'7'' may play more like a 6'8'' or 6'9''.  maybe.
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« Reply #194 on: February 26, 2018, 11:00:33 am »
I don't like going to the well too often with jucos, but we're going to be very young and thin inside next year. That Dotson is averaging 13 and 8 at a good juco is encouraging. Not a shot blocker, NOT a free throw shooter, but he looks to have pretty good agility and some polish on the offensive end. I'll bet he'd become a crowd favorite.

He's retweeting the news about our offer, so that's a positive. He also seems like a religious kid, which we'll take also.

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