Author Topic: CBI Tourney; March 18th 2014 7:00PM; Stony Brook @ Siena (Read 1261 times)

Hammertime · « **Reply #30 on:** March 19, 2014, 07:38:12 pm »

Quote from: iBOsbu on March 19, 2014, 07:29:12 pm

I think you have been hearing that for last 2-3 years.

There is no doubt that he has done a great job establishing the program from a bottom feeder to a yearly contender.

Its possible that he has reached his peak. But I think he deserves at least another 2 years for the success he has achieved so far. I know that he has only three recent regular season titles to show for his success. But its hard to find a 20+ winning coach who can reload the team yearly to keep them in contention.

Our recruits are not better than Vermont or Albany. But definitely much better than the talents we use to get. We are getting better talent every year.

In 2 years, in new arena, if Pikiell fails to take us to the dance, then I have no issue bringing in a new coach.

Pikiell is locked into a contract until 2018. He's going nowhere for a while!!!!

Tml · « **Reply #31 on:** March 19, 2014, 08:30:13 pm »

Pikell? I don't watch enough to say. Here's what I see, FWIW. He recruits well for America East; he has good years and bad but that's every coach because no one wants to sign an LOI when there's a super soph ahead of him. Sometimes you take the kids you can get.

I think he is an excellent defensive coach. On the offensive end SB runs a really vanilla game, which would be ok if they had something resembling a perimeter game.

I think SB lacked the desire and intensity in the Albany game. How can you be flat in the last 7 minutes of a championship game? Get the ball to Warney on the blocks and run your offense off that. If you're not going to run a half court offense push the damn ball up the floor.

On the bright side, I can't imagine that Warney, Pureifoy, Walker and McGrew can't be a good offense next year. The incoming class looks promising.

It's more complicated than he can recruit but can't coach. That's like saying Math is numbers and English is words.

I like Pikell a lot, but a little introspection might be needed so he can go from being a very good coach to a great one. Maybe he should pay a visit to his mentor for a little chat.

Seawolf97 · « **Reply #32 on:** March 19, 2014, 08:49:30 pm »

I would like to see us challenge ourselves more with no conference scheduling. That only helps in conference play. Schedule some high mid majors, add a few A10 teams, CAA or at least two BCS caliber programs.
We need a strong home schedule to fill that arena also. Get some local schools for home games Iona, Fordham , LIU. Hopefully they would travel out to the Island. This was a very frustrating season I hope it was a lesson learned for the guys coming back.

jaghatai · « **Reply #33 on:** March 19, 2014, 10:07:46 pm »

Would it really be a bad thing to load the schedule with teams like Monmouth, NJIT, and as many other local low-D1 teams we can find? Take a couple of payday games against BCS schools, whoop up on the other teams in our "tier", go 12-2 non-conference, then just go .500 in conference. Go this route, we'll get to 20 wins and make the CBI/CIT every year.

Yes, I'd like to see us play quality competition. But until we can handle the St. Francis' and Columbia's of the NCAA, we should probably set our sights a bit lower.

sbufan · « **Reply #34 on:** March 19, 2014, 10:18:22 pm »

Regarding scheduling, I know Pikiell tries to go out of his schedule teams that play different styles. this way for example when conference play comes around, if team X likes to press, Pikiell and the team can study the VCU tape in the film room from earllier and go over with the kids what they need to do different this time around.

It's hard to intentionally make a schedule easy or hard. All I want is as many home games as they can get.

Chairman of the Board · « **Reply #35 on:** March 20, 2014, 08:54:02 am »

see now? its very easy for us to all have an constructive discussion without resorting to childish name calling. a well done to the members of the forum. i agree with nearly all comments above, and yes this stings but SB basketball WILL be back! GO SB

ecasadoSBU · « **Reply #36 on:** March 20, 2014, 12:49:19 pm »

Quote from: jaghatai on March 19, 2014, 06:43:35 pm

Yes, we won 23 games, but considering that most of our wins came against the bottom-feeders of an awful conference, I'm not too impressed. Only two of our wins were against teams with an RPI better than 200 (Vermont, Albany).

For the past five years, I've heard the same things...
He's bringing in great recruits
We're knocking on the door
A championship is a tough thing to win
He knows what he's doing with his substitutions/game management/game plan

Is it possible that he did a great job getting the program off the ground, but he has reached his peak? Is it possible that he's never going to be a better coach? He can recruit, absolutely, but maybe he just isn't cut out for this level of X's and O's.

This is an honest question, because as I watch Vermont/Albany/etc, I notice that they're constantly able to beat us despite "inferior athletes". If our recruits are better, then that must mean that our coaching is worse. And if our recruits aren't better, then that takes away his biggest credential. Just asking.

Just in case. i was being sarcastic when I said great way to end a great season. Im extremely disappointed the way this season ended. Saturday sucked for me. I was in such a bad mood that I decided to skip the stupid bar crawl and went straight home.

Nonetheless, that's part of being a fan. You can only hope that "its next year" when we get to the NCAAs with a brand new arena to show off. Hopefully our coach makes the necessary adjustments to finally get it right, or maybe the department makes the necessary adjustments for the program to get it right! I won't say what's the right move. I thank Coach P a lot for building this program, but that doesn't mean I'll wait around happily year after year when our team chokes in the end.

I think we schedule hard enough. We had several great teams in our schedule from the Power 5 and the A-10 so I don't know if its scheduling the problem. For our first year in the new Arena I would love to see more OOC high quality opponents at home to excite the fans. Lets see how it goes

Lastly, I hope our recruits are as good as the previous few years. Lets go Seawolves

Hammertime · « **Reply #37 on:** March 20, 2014, 01:41:12 pm »

Quote from: ecasadoSBU on March 20, 2014, 12:49:19 pm

Quote from: jaghatai on March 19, 2014, 06:43:35 pm
Yes, we won 23 games, but considering that most of our wins came against the bottom-feeders of an awful conference, I'm not too impressed. Only two of our wins were against teams with an RPI better than 200 (Vermont, Albany).

For the past five years, I've heard the same things...
He's bringing in great recruits
We're knocking on the door
A championship is a tough thing to win
He knows what he's doing with his substitutions/game management/game plan

Is it possible that he did a great job getting the program off the ground, but he has reached his peak? Is it possible that he's never going to be a better coach? He can recruit, absolutely, but maybe he just isn't cut out for this level of X's and O's.

This is an honest question, because as I watch Vermont/Albany/etc, I notice that they're constantly able to beat us despite "inferior athletes". If our recruits are better, then that must mean that our coaching is worse. And if our recruits aren't better, then that takes away his biggest credential. Just asking.

Just in case. i was being sarcastic when I said great way to end a great season. Im extremely disappointed the way this season ended. Saturday sucked for me. I was in such a bad mood that I decided to skip the stupid bar crawl and went straight home.

Nonetheless, that's part of being a fan. You can only hope that "its next year" when we get to the NCAAs with a brand new arena to show off. Hopefully our coach makes the necessary adjustments to finally get it right, or maybe the department makes the necessary adjustments for the program to get it right! I won't say what's the right move. I thank Coach P a lot for building this program, but that doesn't mean I'll wait around happily year after year when our team chokes in the end.

I hope we get some talented recruits. Lets go Seawolves

I feel your pain ecasadoSBU. I was not in a good mood on Monday and Tuesday and my voice is just starting to feel better yesterday!!!! I also concur
on everything you said about waiting year after year for the big one.. I feel the time has come for this program to move up in Basketball and i thought this year was the year. i was wrong....

Hammertime · « **Reply #38 on:** March 20, 2014, 04:40:22 pm »

Albany holding it's own with the Gators so far. Impressive

Seawolf97 · « **Reply #39 on:** March 20, 2014, 08:35:23 pm »

Maybe Coach P can call in a favor and get UConn here. New arena , bring in the Huskies to kick off the new season. I was at the Villanova game years ago in the old arena. We got rolled but the place was packed to rafters.

ibosbu · « **Reply #40 on:** March 20, 2014, 09:59:18 pm »

Quote from: Seawolf97 on March 20, 2014, 08:35:23 pm

Maybe Coach P can call in a favor and get UConn here. New arena , bring in the Huskies to kick off the new season. I was at the Villanova game years ago in the old arena. We got rolled but the place was packed to rafters.

Great idea... Uconn at our new arena would be a huge boost.

Besides that, I agree that we need to beef up our schedule strength. I hope coach P can schedule games against A10 teams again.. home or away.. We played two this season vs VCU and La Salle.. may be 3 next season

Make it
3 vs power conference teams (ACC, B10, AAC, Big East etc)
3 vs A10,
3 vs CAA,
2 vs MAAC,
2 vs Patriot,
3 cupcakes (NEC, etc).
16 conference regular season games
---------------------------------------
32 games total

No more games vs div2.

Seawolf97 · « **Reply #41 on:** March 21, 2014, 09:46:09 pm »

I believe Columbia will be here next season but maybe a Brown or Harvard home or away would test us as would a Towson or Delaware. All Mid Majors and solid prgrams.

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