Author Topic: 2014-15 Stony Brook basketball season (Read 21034 times)

laxnation · « **Reply #330 on:** March 08, 2015, 09:50:04 pm »

Can anyone tell me why Kameron Mitchell averages over 20 minutes a game and is always on the floor in the final few minutes of every game. This "kid" averages less than 4 PPG, 1 APG, and 1 RBPG and shoots a putrid 38% from field. Does Kameron have some sort of "dirt" on Coach? This kid almost cost us a victory in the Bingo with his horrible ball handling skills.

Hammertime · « **Reply #331 on:** March 09, 2015, 05:28:43 am »

Quote from: laxnation on March 08, 2015, 09:50:04 pm

Can anyone tell me why Kameron Mitchell averages over 20 minutes a game and is always on the floor in the final few minutes of every game. This "kid" averages less than 4 PPG, 1 APG, and 1 RBPG and shoots a putrid 38% from field. Does Kameron have some sort of "dirt" on Coach? This kid almost cost us a victory in the Bingo with his horrible ball handling skills.

The only thing I can think of is, Mitchell is better at controlling the ball, moving it around then Roland Nyama. Coach P was concerned with turning over the ball the last couple of minutes as he should be ,so I guess Mitchell is better than Nyama in that regards!

Chairman of the Board · « **Reply #332 on:** March 09, 2015, 09:29:18 am »

a few nice surprises- one is closing out a tight game. another is good FT shooting. and another is winning at patrick. and another is good 3 point shooting- or should i say, the lack of poor 3 point shooting.

while on that note, VT absolutely crushed us in the first half with 3s. they got hot. our perimeter D stunk.

while puriefoy didnt shoot well... how about 1/6 rebounds? not bad for a 6 foot PG. thrower had the same.

and how about warney? for all the talk about his inside play, did anyone see him steal a ball up top, break away and dunk???

he did also have 5 blocks, 14 boards, and 24 points.

vermont should be pretty good next year, as should SB. im starting to wonder if ahmad walker would have been a big factor this year or if we filled the gap nicely.

no conversation yet... but sure to be! http://espn.go.com/ncb/conversation?gameId=400767020

GO SB

sbugold · « **Reply #333 on:** March 09, 2015, 10:11:28 am »

All I can say is that Warney is always a force all by himself, and it's no surprise that he came up big in this critical game. But, Thrower was absolutely amazing. I've been saying all year that this kid was bound to break out and show his true mettle. He chose a great time to do it. So, if Nyama and Thrower can both be on their games at UA, the sky's the limit and dancing it will be!!!!

laxnation · « **Reply #334 on:** March 09, 2015, 11:41:49 am »

WOW!
No comment about Mitchell from COB or SBUGold!

Moveitfred · « **Reply #335 on:** March 09, 2015, 01:15:47 pm »

Best of luck to SBU at Albany. I am disappointed to learn there will be no official buses running fans up there through the athletic dept. I assume there were considerations regarding that decision I don't know (like, maybe, no available buses?) but that would have been nice. Here's hoping lots of SBU fans can get tickets and go up on their own, and I might be among that group.

I hope both teams are at their best. Of course as an SBU fan I'd like to see them finally break through. UA fans certainly want otherwise, but I think these two teams would both represent the conference well if SBU could win and go to the NCAAs while UA goes to the NIT.

As someone who went to all but one home game as a season ticket holder, I would say that SBU really seems to be playing their most consistent and arguably best basketball right now, at just the right time.

And ps, for whatever it's worth taking into account the whole season, Mitchell has been a real bright spot for the team. Certainly still working on some elements of his game, but he moves the ball well in the 1/2 court offense, is a good on-ball defender and is always working to get position and draw fouls when away from the ball, and is enough of a shooter and penetrator (something he has improved the second half of this season) to keep defenses honest.

laxnation · « **Reply #336 on:** March 09, 2015, 02:11:06 pm »

Quote from: Moveitfred on March 09, 2015, 01:15:47 pm

Best of luck to SBU at Albany. I am disappointed to learn there will be no official buses running fans up there through the athletic dept. I assume there were considerations regarding that decision I don't know (like, maybe, no available buses?) but that would have been nice. Here's hoping lots of SBU fans can get tickets and go up on their own, and I might be among that group.

I hope both teams are at their best. Of course as an SBU fan I'd like to see them finally break through. UA fans certainly want otherwise, but I think these two teams would both represent the conference well if SBU could win and go to the NCAAs while UA goes to the NIT.

As someone who went to all but one home game as a season ticket holder, I would say that SBU really seems to be playing their most consistent and arguably best basketball right now, at just the right time.

And ps, for whatever it's worth taking into account the whole season, Mitchell has been a real bright spot for the team. Certainly still working on some elements of his game, but he moves the ball well in the 1/2 court offense, is a good on-ball defender and is always working to get position and draw fouls when away from the ball, and is enough of a shooter and penetrator (something he has improved the second half of this season) to keep defenses honest.

There is no way we are talking about the same player. You do realize Mitchell's jersey # is 3?

I watched every home game from the 3rd row from the floor. Maybe, it's me and having played varisity hoops and notice the details of his poor play. By the way, he always cheats on D by playing a zone and is too late in getting to his man, who would make a 3 pointer. How many times in the Vermont game did his man make a 3? He is an absolute liability!

Moveitfred · « **Reply #337 on:** March 09, 2015, 03:27:58 pm »

Yeah, same player. I played varsity hoops too and still notice a few things. Oh, and I played D1 hoops, coached a state championship hs hoops team in California, and also asst coached D1 hoops on the west coast (those are my 3 additional cards to throw down). Within that context (along with being a season ticket holder), I'd take Mitchell in my rotation with this team every game.

Hoping, too, the UVM game was a significant growth moment for Thrower, not only for the UA game but the next three years. There were certainly some high-profile freshman in the AE this season who will no doubt continue to be good if they stay in the conference, but I wouldn't be surprised to see this less-heralded SBU group to be among the top players in a couple, three years.

Go get after it, SBU!

laxnation · « **Reply #338 on:** March 09, 2015, 03:39:57 pm »

Quote from: Moveitfred on March 09, 2015, 03:27:58 pm

Yeah, same player. I played varsity hoops too and still notice a few things. Oh, and I played D1 hoops, coached a state championship hs hoops team in California, and also asst coached D1 hoops on the west coast (those are my 3 additional cards to throw down). Within that context (along with being a season ticket holder), I'd take Mitchell in my rotation with this team every game.

Hoping, too, the UVM game was a significant growth moment for Thrower, not only for the UA game but the next three years. There were certainly some high-profile freshman in the AE this season who will no doubt continue to be good if they stay in the conference, but I wouldn't be surprised to see this less-heralded SBU group to be among the top players in a couple, three years.

Go get after it, SBU!

I guarantee Mitchell's +/- is atrocious! Most major runs by our opponents have been made with Mitchell on the floor. I'm pretty sure the "guy" he's been guarding is averaging more than 3.8 points a game. I don't blame the kid, but the Coach, who just cares about defense.

seawolfemeritus · « **Reply #339 on:** March 09, 2015, 04:24:27 pm »

Quote from: Moveitfred on March 09, 2015, 03:27:58 pm

Yeah, same player. I played varsity hoops too and still notice a few things. Oh, and I played D1 hoops, coached a state championship hs hoops team in California, and also asst coached D1 hoops on the west coast (those are my 3 additional cards to throw down). Within that context (along with being a season ticket holder), I'd take Mitchell in my rotation with this team every game.

Hoping, too, the UVM game was a significant growth moment for Thrower, not only for the UA game but the next three years. There were certainly some high-profile freshman in the AE this season who will no doubt continue to be good if they stay in the conference, but I wouldn't be surprised to see this less-heralded SBU group to be among the top players in a couple, three years.

Go get after it, SBU!

Could not agree more. But apparently Fred has failed to grasp the fact that credentials and a resume will get you nowhere on this board :-) I can see why Pikiell values Mitchell...works his ass off, tries not to make mistakes and tries to do what the coach wants. I can also see where at times his value is maybe not quite as obvious from a fans perspective. But I certainly like the kid, and understand his role on the team.

What I'll never understand is the overt criticism, well beyond constructive, of our own guys. And today? Today after one of the signature wins in program history? This is where we focus? And classically, after lambasting him, it becomes "I don't blame the kid." It's a little late for that.

SaltySeawolf · « **Reply #340 on:** March 09, 2015, 04:30:33 pm »

I have moments where Mitchell being on the floor has bugged me. Lately though I feel that he is a calming influence. He doesn't look to score, he doesn't turn it over, and he knows Jameel is our bread and butter so he always tries to find Jameel first. When other guys touch the ball their first and immediate thought is how to score it. Nyama, Sturdivant, Mcgrew, and Thrower all fall into this category. I don't have a problem with that mentality but sometimes discretion is the better part of valor. Kam gets the ball and makes appropriate decisions (most of the time) on what to do with it. He also brings it up the court on occasion and he isn't having it stolen from him.

laxnation · « **Reply #341 on:** March 09, 2015, 04:37:32 pm »

Quote from: SaltySeawolf on March 09, 2015, 04:30:33 pm

I have moments where Mitchell being on the floor has bugged me. Lately though I feel that he is a calming influence. He doesn't look to score, he doesn't turn it over, and he knows Jameel is our bread and butter so he always tries to find Jameel first. When other guys touch the ball their first and immediate thought is how to score it. Nyama, Sturdivant, Mcgrew, and Thrower all fall into this category. I don't have a problem with that mentality but sometimes discretion is the better part of valor. Kam gets the ball and makes appropriate decisions (most of the time) on what to do with it. He also brings it up the court on occasion and he isn't having it stolen from him.

A calming influence?
Watch the last 4 minutes of the Bingo game and let me know when he made you feel calm?
Here are the stats of Mitchell in 2 America East playoff games:
1 Point
0-5 FGs
6 Fouls
1-3 FTs
3 Turnovers
All in 46 minutes!

SaltySeawolf · « **Reply #342 on:** March 09, 2015, 09:02:34 pm »

Against Bing he only had 2 turnovers in the final 14 minutes. On one of those turnovers he immediately stole it back. I saw the Binghamton game. I saw a Bing team that played tremendous full court pressure. He did have the one real bad turnover - but other than that - I thought he was a much better option than anyone we had on the bench. Team's that press full court are trying to force tempo and rash decisions. Having the ball in Thrower's or Nyama's hands would play directly into that. I have killed Kam all year btw. I just think he is bearing too much heat in the middle of an 8 game winning streak.

Seawolfemeritus - we rarely are on the same side of things - so it's nice that we can come together on this one. lol

Seawolf97 · « **Reply #343 on:** March 09, 2015, 10:26:18 pm »

So I will eat crow here on my comments prior to the game. This team rallied from 16 down on the road against a fairly good Vermont Team. One of the best wins in a long time and Thower was a dagger for Vermont . Now with that being said I hope we blow UA out Saturday because this team has all the horses to do it .

Hammertime · « **Reply #344 on:** March 10, 2015, 05:44:13 am »

"""My Quote on March, 8th...."""

"If Warney can defend O'Day and keep him from scoring, we win. If our 3 ball starts dropping, we win.. It's that simple. We can't be throwing bricks all day long at the rim and turning the ball over... Purifoy needs to be on fire and McGrew needs to play his best basketball.. I really think Warney is the key to today's win and needs to play like the POY that he is, then we could win this!!!!!"

Warney defended O'Day perfectly and our 3 ball fell in the net. This time it was Thrower who made the big plays from the perimeter. This is why we won.

If SB plays like they did in the 2nd half against Vermont, we will make the dance this year if not, they don't!

I got 6 tickets for the game in Albany, who else from this board is making the trip?

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