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2011/12: Game 6 Stony Brook @ Eastern Illinois
« on: November 27, 2011, 03:39:01 pm »
Coming out of a close loss against Northwestern. Stony Brook looks for its second DI win of the year. In my opinion, a very winnable game.

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Re: 2011/12: Game 6 Stony Brook @ Eastern Illinois
« Reply #1 on: November 28, 2011, 05:45:10 pm »
This is  a busy Saturday afternoon coming up. Football and hoops at the same time on the road wow!

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Re: 2011/12: Game 6 Stony Brook @ Eastern Illinois
« Reply #2 on: December 01, 2011, 11:18:26 am »
Coming out of a close loss against Northwestern. Stony Brook looks for its second DI win of the year. In my opinion, a very winnable game.

Lets go Seawolves!

Eastern Illinois beat Maine last night in OT, but it shouldn't have been that close.  They were up 10 pts late, then basically collapsed before their best player scored all 9 of their points in OT.  This is a difficult road game; should tell you a bit more about your team....someone has to step up offensively, as defense/rebounding is pretty certain.  3 point shooting % may tell the story (for both teams).

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Re: 2011/12: Game 6 Stony Brook @ Eastern Illinois
« Reply #3 on: December 03, 2011, 05:06:49 pm »
Another loss. So far, the hype has been more than the success. Dougher's FG% is hurting the team. He needs to put the ball in the hands of someone who's shooting better.

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Re: 2011/12: Game 6 Stony Brook @ Eastern Illinois
« Reply #4 on: December 03, 2011, 08:05:39 pm »
And who might that be?

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Re: 2011/12: Game 6 Stony Brook @ Eastern Illinois
« Reply #5 on: December 04, 2011, 10:30:49 am »
That might be Rapier, Jackson, Bracey...all of whom are shooting over 40%.


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Re: 2011/12: Game 6 Stony Brook @ Eastern Illinois
« Reply #7 on: December 04, 2011, 12:52:46 pm »
Lot more to the game than just fg %. Two of the guys u mention have alarmingly high turnovers to minutes played numbers...which might be one of the reasons the coaches who get paid to make these decisions may be reluctant to just "put the ball in their hands." Bracey in particular, who has some talent, is having some early difficulty getting acclimated...but he will no doubt improve as the season progresses. Collectively, the guards need to shoot it better...Dougher is 36%, Hayes 29% and Rouse 36%. But also keep in mind that everyone's fg% has been somewhat impacted by tough road games at Indiana, Northwestern and EIU. It will get better.

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Re: 2011/12: Game 6 Stony Brook @ Eastern Illinois
« Reply #8 on: December 04, 2011, 01:05:57 pm »
Lot more to the game than just fg %. Two of the guys u mention have alarmingly high turnovers to minutes played numbers...which might be one of the reasons the coaches who get paid to make these decisions may be reluctant to just "put the ball in their hands." Bracey in particular, who has some talent, is having some early difficulty getting acclimated...but he will no doubt improve as the season progresses. Collectively, the guards need to shoot it better...Dougher is 36%, Hayes 29% and Rouse 36%. But also keep in mind that everyone's fg% has been somewhat impacted by tough road games at Indiana, Northwestern and EIU. It will get better.

Astute observations and exactly what I had hoped to convey. A low percentage is a problem, but is rarely the only one. In my mind it's a confidence and chemistry issue. The more the team works those factors out - either through lineup changes or time in general - the better we'll be. Pikiell teams have always been weak out of the gate, then improve. While that's not a great quality, it does bode well for some exciting upcoming games.

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Re: 2011/12: Game 6 Stony Brook @ Eastern Illinois
« Reply #9 on: December 04, 2011, 01:16:14 pm »
Agree. Great job with your article...enjoyed it.

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Re: 2011/12: Game 6 Stony Brook @ Eastern Illinois
« Reply #10 on: December 04, 2011, 01:55:31 pm »
Lot more to the game than just fg %. Two of the guys u mention have alarmingly high turnovers to minutes played numbers...which might be one of the reasons the coaches who get paid to make these decisions may be reluctant to just "put the ball in their hands." Bracey in particular, who has some talent, is having some early difficulty getting acclimated...but he will no doubt improve as the season progresses. Collectively, the guards need to shoot it better...Dougher is 36%, Hayes 29% and Rouse 36%. But also keep in mind that everyone's fg% has been somewhat impacted by tough road games at Indiana, Northwestern and EIU. It will get better.

Astute observations and exactly what I had hoped to convey. A low percentage is a problem, but is rarely the only one. In my mind it's a confidence and chemistry issue. The more the team works those factors out - either through lineup changes or time in general - the better we'll be. Pikiell teams have always been weak out of the gate, then improve. While that's not a great quality, it does bode well for some exciting upcoming games.

As I thought, 3 point % for both teams would tell the story (24% for SB, and 46% for EI), but free throws were equally important.  Although the numbers were really lopsided, you guys need to find someone able to attack the basket and draw fouls.  Also, 29 attempts from three is a lot, especially when you don't always have the right players taking them (no need for Brenton/Joyner/Coley/Rouse to have 6 attempts).  Hayes/Dougher will shoot it better in time, won't they?  Finally, Bracey getting comfortable at both ends of the court will help, as he can attack the basket, draw fouls, and be another viable offensive option.....