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2011/12 Game 25 Stony Brook vs. Vermont
« on: February 12, 2012, 03:46:41 pm »
Disappointing loss. Hopefully Albany is ****ed enough with its season so far that it's motivated to beat the conference leader when Vermont visits Albany for its next game. Then SBU will be back in the driver's seat.

There's a decent chance the Wolves will meet the Cats again, probably in Vermont. They'd better figure out how to defend against their three-point shooting, or hope the Cats have an off day if they hope to win there.
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Re: 2011/12 Game 25 Stony Brook vs. Vermont
« Reply #1 on: February 12, 2012, 03:51:46 pm »
Some random thoughts:
- I've never been on the Dougher bandwagon because of his very inconsistent shooting. Nothing about his play today makes me want to jump on.
- Brenton's lack of ability to take and/or make shots from 18-20 feet has become a liability. Whoever is defending him can back off when he's at that range. A guard/small forward needs to be able to shoot from there.
- Pikiell may want to adopt the Vermont coach's free throw shooting regimen that the CBS Sports announcers were talking during the game.
- As for the two good things— Joyner's first half inside game was impressive, and Coley's BIG TIME jam over a big man.

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Re: 2011/12 Game 25 Stony Brook vs. Vermont
« Reply #2 on: February 12, 2012, 04:21:01 pm »
The team loses one game in a difficult environment and now we talk about all these problems.
Tommy Brenton has always been reluctant to shoot from the perimeter ( even when we win 12 of the first 13 league games ).
Brian has always been somewhat streaky. That has not stopped us from being near the top of the standings.
Yes, UVM shot well from the floor. That is not lkely to be a pattern against us. Today they were better.
This was going to be a diificult spot for us right from the start. We should all have known that.
We may need to go back to Burlington again but I doubt we will perform that poorly in a rematch.

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Re: 2011/12 Game 25 Stony Brook vs. Vermont
« Reply #3 on: February 12, 2012, 04:27:44 pm »
  They just did not play well. Only can blame themselves for the loss.  Vermont was hot for sure , but our missed shots, no ball movement and turnovers helped Vermont .  Have to hope for an Albany upset and we need to win out the schedule.

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Re: 2011/12 Game 25 Stony Brook vs. Vermont
« Reply #4 on: February 12, 2012, 05:02:54 pm »
"The team loses one game in a difficult environment and now we talk about all these problems.
Tommy Brenton has always been reluctant to shoot from the perimeter ( even when we win 12 of the first 13 league games ).
Brian has always been somewhat streaky. That has not stopped us from being near the top of the standings."


Winning 12 of 13 league games and being near the top of the standings isn't qualifying for the NCAA Tournament. And there's the real possibility of missing out...yet again. I hope Albany can beat them, or we can beat them in Burlington, but there is a problem in Stony Brookville if/when the Seawolves have to wait yet another season to qualify. The issues with Dougher and Brenton are parts of that problem. It is what it is, until something changes
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Re: 2011/12 Game 25 Stony Brook vs. Vermont
« Reply #5 on: February 12, 2012, 06:23:42 pm »
Tough loss. ouch! with that said. We are still in first place. With an improved team over last year, I like our chances. Lets not get crazy here. We are either the #1 or #2 seed coming into the tournament and we all know very well what happens most of the time to that team that gets the #1 seed. The pressure is on them. Lets just sit back and relax and enjoy the fact that we are 12-2 right now in the America East. Nothing to panic about.

The team needs to regroup and win its follow up games. We have a week off, that is great for them to practice and work out on things they need to improve.

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Re: 2011/12 Game 25 Stony Brook vs. Vermont
« Reply #6 on: February 12, 2012, 06:31:32 pm »
All I am saying is the sky is not falling. It would once again be difficult for SBU to need to go to Burlington to win the conference title, but I think we all
should agree that is not beyond somrthing that can be accomplished.
Keep in mind,we are 12-2 , not 2-12

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Re: 2011/12 Game 25 Stony Brook vs. Vermont
« Reply #7 on: February 12, 2012, 08:00:29 pm »
Rapier's 5 turnovers weren't good.  Coley had a bunch of unnecessary fouls that got him into trouble.  Dougher and Jackson combined for 4 of 24 from the field.

Simply put, you can't shoot 0-15 from 3pt, 57% from FT and expect to win.

As Doug Remer said... "well, it was a team effort, and I guess it took every player workin' together to lose this one."

We all gotta hope that Albany (or, more comically, UMBC or Bing...) knock off Vermont.  The #2 seed isn't hideous, keep in mind that last year, the #2 seed didn't play Vermont in the finals...
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Re: 2011/12 Game 25 Stony Brook vs. Vermont
« Reply #8 on: February 12, 2012, 09:40:13 pm »
ry1nik
Some random thoughts:
- I've never been on the Dougher bandwagon because of his very inconsistent shooting. Nothing about his play today makes me want to jump on.
- Brenton's lack of ability to take and/or make shots from 18-20 feet has become a liability. Whoever is defending him can back off when he's at that range. A guard/small forward needs to be able to shoot from there.
- Pikiell may want to adopt the Vermont coach's free throw shooting regimen that the CBS Sports announcers were talking during the game.
- As for the two good things— Joyner's first half inside game was impressive, and Coley's BIG TIME jam over a big man.

Dougher....how about the multitude of huge shots over the last couple of weeks?
Brenton....how about the other invaluable contributions?
Pikiell...I was laughing when the announcers went on and on about their free throw practice routine, clearly John Becker at UVM is the only coach in the country who does that.
Coley...nice dunk, who cares?

SB has had a phenomenal run, no surprise they couldn't run the table in a very tough environment. We will regroup and the SB faithful will have their backs.

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Re: 2011/12 Game 25 Stony Brook vs. Vermont
« Reply #9 on: February 12, 2012, 09:47:05 pm »
Nothing to be worried about guys, our team will regroup, it was just one bad game AT burlington. I really hope we can get the championship game at home if we make it that far (either by means of getting the top seed or by the top seed losing early in the tourney) but even if that's not possible I think Stony Brook can still do a great job in the tourney. The next two weeks will tell.
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Re: 2011/12 Game 25 Stony Brook vs. Vermont
« Reply #10 on: February 12, 2012, 10:45:23 pm »
Ugly game but far from the the end of the season though. Around this time last year, we lost to a 6 win Manhattan team at home before getting hot and nearly winning the AE autobid. I have a lot of faith in the coaching staff and I think the team will rebound nicely.

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Re: 2011/12 Game 25 Stony Brook vs. Vermont
« Reply #11 on: February 13, 2012, 09:59:35 am »
Okay SBU Nation lets not panic.  We have lost 2 count them 2 games in conference.  We lost to good teams.

This storm will pass....  Lets keep the faith in players and coach's.  I would rather lose to Vermont now

then lose to them in a few weeks.


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Re: 2011/12 Game 25 Stony Brook vs. Vermont
« Reply #12 on: February 13, 2012, 12:56:14 pm »
Okay SBU Nation lets not panic.  We have lost 2 count them 2 games in conference.  We lost to good teams.

This storm will pass....  Lets keep the faith in players and coach's.  I would rather lose to Vermont now

then lose to them in a few weeks.



+1 - I checked the weather outside and it doesn't look like hell's freezing over, nor will there be a plague of blood, frogs, or locusts on the horizon.

We got thumped badly by UVM last year. We ended up returning the favor. BU almost got routed after doing the same during the regular season. Any given basketball game. We're all midmajors.

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Re: 2011/12 Game 25 Stony Brook vs. Vermont
« Reply #13 on: February 13, 2012, 06:43:12 pm »
To be honest, if at the beginning of the year you told me we'd be 12-2 with 2 winnable games left, i'd be thrilled.
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Re: 2011/12 Game 25 Stony Brook vs. Vermont
« Reply #14 on: February 13, 2012, 08:37:40 pm »
So deep breath , cant cry over spilled milk and on to  Boston and Northeastern . A good test for us and a winnable game.