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Re: Women's Lacrosse: Discussion/ News
« Reply #226 on: May 03, 2017, 06:58:35 pm »
As it should be . They are having a great season !

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« Reply #227 on: May 08, 2017, 07:27:29 am »
Somebody explain to me  how the Seawolves can be the undefeated conference champions, only lose one game all season (to a no. 3 ranked team) and be ranked no. 4 nationally--yet, only be a #8 seed and not get a first round bye!!

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« Reply #228 on: May 08, 2017, 09:30:12 am »
Somebody explain to me  how the Seawolves can be the undefeated conference champions, only lose one game all season (to a no. 3 ranked team) and be ranked no. 4 nationally--yet, only be a #8 seed and not get a first round bye!!
The America East is a God-awful Conference!

What's troubling, is how is Penn St seeded 4th when they lost to Northwestern and Colorado, while Stony Brook beat both these teams.  Someone or some people are out to get someone!

Also, you be surprised how unqualified some of the memberships  are on the selection committee.

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Re: Women's Lacrosse: Discussion/ News
« Reply #229 on: May 08, 2017, 10:23:07 am »
No respect for the America East . Big conferences will always  have more say and sway than the little guys.

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Re: Women's Lacrosse: Discussion/ News
« Reply #230 on: May 08, 2017, 11:25:06 am »
its rather simple.  one sees the NCAA selection process and thinks, the teams should line up in order.

that's not how it works.  there are geographical considerations.  also, asses in the seats.  which means tv, merch, concessions, $$$.

see the men's bracket.  denver vs AFA.  ND vs marquette.  PSU vs towson. http://www.insidelacrosse.com/article/2017-men-s-ncaa-di-tournament-bracket-maryland-is-top-seed/49421
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« Reply #231 on: May 08, 2017, 03:18:40 pm »
its rather simple.  one sees the NCAA selection process and thinks, the teams should line up in order.

that's not how it works.  there are geographical considerations.  also, asses in the seats.  which means tv, merch, concessions, $$$.

see the men's bracket.  denver vs AFA.  ND vs marquette.  PSU vs towson. http://www.insidelacrosse.com/article/2017-men-s-ncaa-di-tournament-bracket-maryland-is-top-seed/49421
We are  talking the women's bracket, not the men.
None of the men criteria works on why Penn St is seeded higher than Stony Brook.
Geographically it's negligible.
Stony Brook would have greater attendance than any other school except for maybe Maryland. More merchandise and more concessions would be sold at Stony Brook.
None of the games will be on "tv" prior to the semis. If the games were televised the ratings would be .00000000001

It all comes down to common opponents with Stony Brook and Penn State.
Based on this, Stony Brook got screwed!
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« Reply #232 on: May 08, 2017, 04:37:17 pm »
its rather simple.  one sees the NCAA selection process and thinks, the teams should line up in order.

that's not how it works.  there are geographical considerations.  also, asses in the seats.  which means tv, merch, concessions, $$$.

see the men's bracket.  denver vs AFA.  ND vs marquette.  PSU vs towson. http://www.insidelacrosse.com/article/2017-men-s-ncaa-di-tournament-bracket-maryland-is-top-seed/49421
We are  talking the women's bracket, not the men.
None of the men criteria works on why Penn St is seeded higher than Stony Brook.
Geographically it's negligible.
Stony Brook would have greater attendance than any other school except for maybe Maryland. More merchandise and more concessions would be sold at Stony Brook.
None of the games will be on "tv" prior to the semis. If the games were televised the ratings would be .00000000001

It all comes down to common opponents with Stony Brook and Penn State.
Based on this, Stony Brook got screwed!

Agreed. SB did get screwed. The only way to prove these naysayers wrong is, WIN!!!!

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Re: Women's Lacrosse: Discussion/ News
« Reply #233 on: May 09, 2017, 08:44:20 am »
i agree too that they got screwed.

but the bottom line is the cmte has a human element- an override if you will.

and that's how this happened.
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« Reply #234 on: May 09, 2017, 09:18:46 am »
i agree too that they got screwed.

but the bottom line is the cmte has a human element- an override if you will.

and that's how this happened.

It sounds like a member or two on the Committee might not be the biggest fans of Spallina.

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Re: Women's Lacrosse: Discussion/ News
« Reply #235 on: May 09, 2017, 11:42:06 am »
http://www.uslaxmagazine.com/college/women/stony-brooks-seed-puzzles-fans-but-big-wins-reap-rewards

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While pollsters have the Seawolves fourth in the country, their NCAA resume lacked major wins – namely wins above their ranking – despite an excellent 18-1 record.

“All selection, seeding and bracketing principles were followed, including the ability to move seeds across and up and down seed lines to build the bracket.”
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Re: Women's Lacrosse: Discussion/ News
« Reply #236 on: May 09, 2017, 11:42:43 am »
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PLAYERS TO WATCH
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The nation’s leading scorer dishes and scores at ease. As the catalyst of the Seawolves offense, look for Ohlmiller’s skill to shine. It would be a treat to see it on display in a potential matchup against No. 1 Maryland.
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« Reply #237 on: May 09, 2017, 07:54:44 pm »
i agree too that they got screwed.

but the bottom line is the cmte has a human element- an override if you will.

and that's how this happened.

I'm quite certain the AE conference had everything to do with the seeding... SB really needs to move out of this conference if they want to gain respect from the cmte in the future.. Just move all sports into the CAA already.. Moving into the MEEC, Patriot league would only be a lateral.. The CAA is a arguably a step up

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« Reply #238 on: May 10, 2017, 08:56:53 am »
same point; its not just lining up the teams in order.

therefore, forget the polls.  polls dont always consider SoS, RPI, OOC.

cmte may consider other factors.
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« Reply #239 on: May 10, 2017, 10:13:58 am »
i agree too that they got screwed.

but the bottom line is the cmte has a human element- an override if you will.

and that's how this happened.

I'm quite certain the AE conference had everything to do with the seeding... SB really needs to move out of this conference if they want to gain respect from the cmte in the future.. Just move all sports into the CAA already.. Moving into the MEEC, Patriot league would only be a lateral.. The CAA is a arguably a step up

We tried to do that, but Hofstra blocked us the last time. Besides, we'd be moving all sports from a single one bid league to another and increasing the travel costs. Is it really worth sending our teams to the Carolinas in the middle of the week just to be in another one bid league? The only non FBS move I'd make is to the A10.


Sure the committee screwed over the wLAX team on seeding, but being in the CAA alone wouldn't fix that. The CAA isn't what it once was when ODU, VCU, etc. were in the conference years ago and George Mason made the final four.