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SBU Other Sports / Re: Women's Lacrosse: Discussion/ News
« Last post by Wolffan on May 20, 2018, 12:06:04 pm »
I turned off the screen the second the final goal went in, so I didn't see all the postgame BS. When did we lose Ohlmiller??

And yep, final rounds at our home field and we're not even in it. I'm seriously pissed off. Though I don't think the game being here would have made a difference at that point.

Losing Taryn Ohlmiller (key playmaker, top-10 scorer in the US with over 100-points) for the entire game proved impossible to overcome.

(She went down with a torn ACL v UPenn and did not play at  all v BC.  I don't think the announcers had any idea the effect her absence had on our offense...they didn't seem seem to notice she was missing...doubtlessly BC did.)

"The offense left opportunities on the field, though, and fluidity was hard to come by.
Sophomore Taryn Ohlmiller couldn’t play after tearing her ACL in the previous game against Penn." 
 -https://www.newsday.com/sports/college/stony-brook/top-ranked-stony-brook-women-s-lax-eliminated-in-ot-1.18626384 
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SBU Other Sports / Re: Women's Lacrosse: Discussion/ News
« Last post by OldSeawolf on May 20, 2018, 10:05:16 am »
Recruiting will not be an issue for Joe- he's built these teams on under-recruited Long Island talent. With how good the brand has become, you will be seeing elite level LI talent staying at home. He just seems like an amazing coach to play for.

With regards to the conference situation, yes Stony Brook would have probably been seeded higher as an undefeated CAA team. If they were undefeated in the ACC or Big 10 the same would be the case. What I dislike about these hypotheticals is that there is no guarantee that they would have been undefeated in those conferences. Part of the reason they were undefeated is they played in the AE.

The AE makes geographic sense and budget wise for the university. I'm not holding my breath for a conference move. With continued aggressive OOC games, the seeding will be better. They key will be adding some ACC teams to their schedule IMHO- beating Northwestern/Stanford/USC etc. didn't carry the weight that it needed.

All good points.  What I think is paramount for SBU is to continue to build the local brand, and recruit heavily in the Long Island area - heck, we've got 3 million people who live out here.  Do as Spallina has done, and engage with the local kids.  This goes for all of our athletics programs.  We're the # 1 game in town for college athletics (clearly overtaken Hofstra, IMO) - let's keep our kids home!

Sure, it was disappointing to not get to the Final 4 here, but it is extremely difficult, regardless of seeding and venue, to win it all in these one-and-done tournaments, where everyone taking part in the Tournament is a force.  When the dust settles and disappointment dissipates, the women's LAX team will be able to hold their heads up high and revel in their season accomplishments.  Congrats to them on a great season that legitimately put SBU on the national map!
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SBU Other Sports / Re: Women's Lacrosse: Discussion/ News
« Last post by Wolfie_MD on May 20, 2018, 09:36:53 am »
Recruiting will not be an issue for Joe- he's built these teams on under-recruited Long Island talent. With how good the brand has become, you will be seeing elite level LI talent staying at home. He just seems like an amazing coach to play for.

With regards to the conference situation, yes Stony Brook would have probably been seeded higher as an undefeated CAA team. If they were undefeated in the ACC or Big 10 the same would be the case. What I dislike about these hypotheticals is that there is no guarantee that they would have been undefeated in those conferences. Part of the reason they were undefeated is they played in the AE.

The AE makes geographic sense and budget wise for the university. I'm not holding my breath for a conference move. With continued aggressive OOC games, the seeding will be better. They key will be adding some ACC teams to their schedule IMHO- beating Northwestern/Stanford/USC etc. didn't carry the weight that it needed.
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SBU Other Sports / Re: Women's Lacrosse: Discussion/ News
« Last post by Hammertime on May 20, 2018, 06:52:31 am »
Spallina has no problem recruiting. Team lost a game by a goal in double OT. Conf has nothing to do with. BC played a bit better today. Albany mens lax has no problem recruiting either. The common theme there is that both programs have coaches that kids want to play for. The CAA in lax will not make one bit of difference in recruiting.

This is true Chrissy, but you cant tell me for one second that SB didn't  got the raw end of the stick in seeding because of the AE conference. Every article I have read this week said SB was seeded 5th because of this conference. So bottom line. If SB girls Lax played in the CAA conference this year, with a perfect record, there is no doubt they would have gotten a better seed and BC would have played at LaValle stadium, and probably would have won this game..

P.S. Dont be shocked if the girls Lax get an invite into the Big10 after this season.
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SBU Other Sports / Re: Women's Lacrosse: Discussion/ News
« Last post by Hammertime on May 20, 2018, 06:44:30 am »
we were a bit sloppy, most of the day.  we werent leading into the half and a few min coming out of the halftime.

Draw control was another serious problem. BC had some very tall players catching the jump ball at every face off..

Exactly. I can't say we have a recruiting problem when we were 20-0 and #1 all year, but having that kind of size would be beneficial in games like this. I guess as in other sports, recruits see we have a great program, but then look at the conference we're in and decide to go elsewhere.

I agree. Tho Chrissy makes a good point about UA and SB not having a problem recruiting great athletes, I still think if SB was in a better conference our RPI would have been  better and SB probably would have gotten home field advantage through out the playoffs.
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SBU Other Sports / Re: Women's Lacrosse: Discussion/ News
« Last post by Chrissy D. on May 19, 2018, 09:21:33 pm »
 Spallina has no problem recruiting. Team lost a game by a goal in double OT. Conf has nothing to do with. BC played a bit better today. Albany mens lax has no problem recruiting either. The common theme there is that both programs have coaches that kids want to play for. The CAA in lax will not make one bit of difference in recruiting.
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SBU Other Sports / Re: Women's Lacrosse: Discussion/ News
« Last post by VA_Seawolf on May 19, 2018, 09:07:53 pm »
we were a bit sloppy, most of the day.  we werent leading into the half and a few min coming out of the halftime.

Draw control was another serious problem. BC had some very tall players catching the jump ball at every face off..

Exactly. I can't say we have a recruiting problem when we were 20-0 and #1 all year, but having that kind of size would be beneficial in games like this. I guess as in other sports, recruits see we have a great program, but then look at the conference we're in and decide to go elsewhere.
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SBU Other Sports / Re: Women's Lacrosse: Discussion/ News
« Last post by Hammertime on May 19, 2018, 07:32:39 pm »
we were a bit sloppy, most of the day.  we werent leading into the half and a few min coming out of the halftime.

Draw control was another serious problem. BC had some very tall players catching the jump ball at every face off..
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SBU Other Sports / Re: Women's Lacrosse: Discussion/ News
« Last post by VA_Seawolf on May 19, 2018, 05:54:43 pm »
I turned off the screen the second the final goal went in, so I didn't see all the postgame BS. When did we lose Ohlmiller??

And yep, final rounds at our home field and we're not even in it. I'm seriously pissed off. Though I don't think the game being here would have made a difference at that point.
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SBU Other Sports / Re: Women's Lacrosse: Discussion/ News
« Last post by Chairman of the Board on May 19, 2018, 04:32:29 pm »
we were a bit sloppy, most of the day.  we werent leading into the half and a few min coming out of the halftime. 
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