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SBU Men's Basketball / Re: 2017-18 schedule
« Last post by Seawolf97 on August 17, 2017, 06:42:16 pm »
I have been following this program since the pre Pickell era and this is our toughest non schedule yet . Usually we  only play two  power teams a season  but we are loaded this year .  This is good for recruiting going forward and spreads  the brand of SBU around the country . Hey we win one or go into OT with somebody important  that goes along way.
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SBU Men's Basketball / Re: 2017-18 schedule
« Last post by DCwolf on August 17, 2017, 06:05:13 pm »
Two more 20+ win teams added: Bucknell (NCAA) at home and Ball State (CIT) on the road.

https://twitter.com/sbusports/status/898297639242006529

Gotta be among the toughest non-conference slates among mid-majors.
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SBU Men's Basketball / Re: 2018 Recruiting
« Last post by VA_Seawolf on August 17, 2017, 05:54:32 pm »
I still disagree. Do you realize the AE is constantly always at the bottom as far as conference strength is concern!!!! I would think SB could attract better athletes if their sports programs played in the CAA. You have no idea if JMU is going to move up to the CAA anytime soon. I see SH wanting SB to move up to FBS before JMU does...


The AE isn't the best, but it can get better. Our league is poised to be quite good this year. I still don't see the value in hopping from a single one bid league to another. Better athletes could be a reason to move, but is there proof we'd be able to recruit any better in the CAA as opposed to the AE? The downsides of the CAA are the increased travel and sports like Lacrosse may take a hit in that league.

If we did move to the CAA however, it's likely we wouldn't be alone. Albany I'm almost certain would tag along which would make the jump a bit more attractive.

Heilbron can want to take us to FBS, but there's no chance in Hell we move to FBS before JMU. JMU already has the facilities, stadium, and winning tradition to be attractive to an FBS conference TODAY. They turned the Sun Belt down a few years ago and are arguably a more attractive school than ODU for a conference. They're the next team out the door and when they're gone, expect significant changes to the CAA.
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SBU Men's Basketball / Re: 2018 Recruiting
« Last post by Hammertime on August 17, 2017, 05:11:24 pm »
I've said it before and I'll stick by it, I'm not high on the CAA. It's simply another one bid league and a more competitive one at that. We're better off being a game or two away from a tourney appearance yearly in the AE, then losing in the first round of a more competitive CAA tournament. Until it becomes a multibid league again I'm not interested. The A10 is a different animal though. The CAA will be even weaker once JMU leaves for an FBS all sports conference. Perhaps then we'll get the call along with Albany,but IDK if we should bite then. It's not a worthwhile move if you ask me.


The CAA has 10 members, usually conferences require a 2/3rds or 3/4ths vote to admit a new member. Hofstra alone can't block us, but if another school like say Northeastern joined them out of fear of regional competition, and then College of Charleston didn't want to add another member up north, those three together could have been enough to end our consideration. It's not hard to form a coalition against schools like this. Serves them right though. Hofstra can stay in a dying CAA. I could see them coming back to the AE begging (along with Delaware) once JMU leaves the CAA.

I still disagree. Do you realize the AE is constantly always at the bottom as far as conference strength is concern!!!! I would think SB could attract better athletes if their sports programs played in the CAA. You have no idea if JMU is going to move up to the CAA anytime soon. I see SH wanting SB to move up to FBS before JMU does...
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SBU Men's Basketball / Re: 2018 Recruiting
« Last post by VA_Seawolf on August 17, 2017, 04:31:12 pm »
I've said it before and I'll stick by it, I'm not high on the CAA. It's simply another one bid league and a more competitive one at that. We're better off being a game or two away from a tourney appearance yearly in the AE, then losing in the first round of a more competitive CAA tournament. Until it becomes a multibid league again I'm not interested. The A10 is a different animal though. The CAA will be even weaker once JMU leaves for an FBS all sports conference. Perhaps then we'll get the call along with Albany,but IDK if we should bite then. It's not a worthwhile move if you ask me.


The CAA has 10 members, usually conferences require a 2/3rds or 3/4ths vote to admit a new member. Hofstra alone can't block us, but if another school like say Northeastern joined them out of fear of regional competition, and then College of Charleston didn't want to add another member up north, those three together could have been enough to end our consideration. It's not hard to form a coalition against schools like this. Serves them right though. Hofstra can stay in a dying CAA. I could see them coming back to the AE begging (along with Delaware) once JMU leaves the CAA.
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SBU Men's Basketball / Re: 2017-18 schedule
« Last post by VA_Seawolf on August 17, 2017, 04:19:14 pm »
Indeed. Our schedules should be as tough as possible. We really lose nothing from doing this and I love it. It's a no lose situation. Even if we dropped every single game on here (I think we'll win at least one) we'd just have to win the AE to make the tournament just like we had to when we're playing Nobody State, Nobody A&M, and Nobody Tech out of conference.
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SBU Men's Basketball / Re: 2018 Recruiting
« Last post by Hammertime on August 17, 2017, 12:15:09 pm »
They could if they wanted to .  I think Hofstra feels a little threatened with SBU . Hofstra enrollment is dropping to almost under 10k students . A few years ago it was nearly 15k but  cost (42,000) a year and the area the campus is may be working against them .

WOW. I didnt know that about Hofstra enrollment . Maybe they need to lower the cost of their admissions, too.. It is my understanding Hofstra not cheap to get in.. But what gives Hofstra the right to block another institution from participating in their sports conference just because they feel threaten? Makes no sense and it should not be allowed. I would think the CAA commissioner would have a lot to say about that as well.. It's not like SB isn't already affiliated with the CAA, so it should just be a matter of fitting us in schedule wise rather than having a school vote..
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SBU Men's Basketball / Re: 2018 Recruiting
« Last post by Seawolf97 on August 17, 2017, 11:42:46 am »
They could if they wanted to .  I think Hofstra feels a little threatened with SBU . Hofstra enrollment is dropping to almost under 10k students . A few years ago it was nearly 15k but  cost (42,000) a year and the area the campus is may be working against them .
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SBU Men's Basketball / Re: 2018 Recruiting
« Last post by Hammertime on August 17, 2017, 11:38:49 am »
Hammer this has been explained a few times. SB wanted to mive all sports to CAA but were blocked by a couple of schools with Hofstra being one of them. Since Hofstra doesnt have football anymore they couldnt stop that move.

Just curious. Can Hofstra and others still block SB from making the leap, if so, why.. Why would they??
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SBU Men's Basketball / Re: 2018 Recruiting
« Last post by Chrissy D. on August 17, 2017, 11:24:21 am »
Hammer this has been explained a few times. SB wanted to mive all sports to CAA but were blocked by a couple of schools with Hofstra being one of them. Since Hofstra doesnt have football anymore they couldnt stop that move.
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