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SBU Men's Lacrosse / Re: SB Lacrosse 2019 Season
« on: May 15, 2019, 12:35:24 pm »
id have to think he's at least in the conversation.

also keep in mind with other "openings", like navy, harvard, quinnipiac, holy cross- i think these are jobs that somewhat attract a similar level coach.  meaning right now there's more openings than usual and so the competition & timing doesnt help.  hope they get the right fit that understands SB and it's difficulties.

Nagel is gone, that's the most important thing.  A head coach with experience would be great. Sowell should be given a hard look. If not there are dozens of Long Island raised assistant coaches out in the college ranks who would love the job. Let the search begin.
Do you think Sowell will come back?  My thinking is " been there, done that and wore the tee shirt." Would love to see him back on the sidelines but not sure if the offer would be good enough to come back.

If he liked LI, if he liked SB, and they are giving him the +200k salary, why not. And if he didn't like LI or SB, maybe the $200k will do it.

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SBU Men's Lacrosse / Re: SB Lacrosse 2019 Season
« on: May 15, 2019, 12:17:39 pm »
id have to think he's at least in the conversation.

also keep in mind with other "openings", like navy, harvard, quinnipiac, holy cross- i think these are jobs that somewhat attract a similar level coach.  meaning right now there's more openings than usual and so the competition & timing doesnt help.  hope they get the right fit that understands SB and it's difficulties.

Nagel is gone, that's the most important thing.  A head coach with experience would be great. Sowell should be given a hard look. If not there are dozens of Long Island raised assistant coaches out in the college ranks who would love the job. Let the search begin.

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SBU Men's Lacrosse / Re: SB Lacrosse 2019 Season
« on: May 14, 2019, 02:39:15 pm »
Rickie Sowell! Bring him back!

He has a proven track record of success at SB!!!!!!!!!!

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SBU Men's Lacrosse / Re: SB Lacrosse 2019 Season
« on: May 14, 2019, 12:29:05 pm »
The tweet comes off as pathetic and somewhat desperate in the face of reality. It would be better to post nothing.

Is he trying to say running a loosing program is OK?
Yes, in a way. Regardless, it’s clear that new leadership is required asap.
Agreed!  But like others, I think that the AD will renew Nalge's contract.  If the AD was looking to make a move the announcement should have been made and the search for a new coach should be in progress.  The UMBC game clearly showed what a well coached team can do.  Nagle did not have an answer and to me, it looked like he just gave up and watched the clock tick down on the season.

Nagle still there - not a good sign. Why would anyone in there right mind keep Nagel?

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SBU Men's Lacrosse / Re: SB Lacrosse 2019 Season
« on: May 07, 2019, 05:22:45 pm »
The tweet comes off as pathetic and somewhat desperate in the face of reality. It would be better to post nothing.

Is he trying to say running a loosing program is OK?

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SBU Men's Lacrosse / Re: SB Lacrosse 2019 Season
« on: May 03, 2019, 12:40:27 pm »
You guys want Nagle gone?  Tell the man.  He wants your opinions. 

shawn.heilbron@stonybrook.edu

My yearly email to Shawn has been sent...fingers crossed that the 3rd time is a charm.


Congratulations to the team for a first-place conference finish and best of luck to the seniors.

Why would the tournament loss surprise anyone? Nagel has a long history of one and done in the playoffs. There’s no hope for SB Lax with Nagel as coach. Please can him now! 


I did that to for a while. It got him an extension of his contract.

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SBU Men's Lacrosse / Re: SB Lacrosse 2019 Season
« on: April 15, 2019, 12:58:08 pm »
SBLAX808

I get that this team does not have an elite player like Rooney, Crowley or Rogers who all have 200 career points but there is plenty of talent on this team. Many players who were All Americans, All State, All Long Island, starters on state championship teams that were annual elite programs. I hate comparing specific players and stats over the years, its also when you are comparing the current team to players whose Bio and stats are complete but I will throw out a few.

Haun already has 104 points, 68 goals and is on pace to be in the top 10 in points all time for SB. He has more goals than Hughes and on pace to have more than Schultz.
Compitello has 68 career goals and had 50% of his points in his monster jr.year, Many of the names you said had 1 year where they got 35-40% of their career totals in a big Jr. or Sr. year.  Compitello had 25 assists his red shirt sophomore year and 35 his All American Jr. year.
Pickel and Vanginhoven have 40 and 41 goals on pace to have more than Compitello (68), Hughes(66)
Walsh had the 3rd most assists all time for a freshman (25) to Rogers and Crowley's 26. Crowley had 26 assists 3 times. Schultz never had more than 24. He is on pace to crack the top 5 all time for SB

While I do not see a player on the roster who will make Stony Brook's Mount Rushmore, there is talent


There are so many players who make a team but you can see by just picking two attackmen and two midfielders they compare historically. Defensively I could list so many players. Bollingeer, Rees, Matz,Cassidy, Pugal,  It's tough to see this team like the glory quarterfinal losing team right now but they can start by winning an AE tournament championship. They got a regular season championship last year, they have to keep building.
I would like to see 3 things:
* open up the offense and stop poor quality shots
* play smart and have fun
* Coaches do not need to complain about every call

Our Championship run starts now. I truly believe this team and staff can do it. Go Wolves

Analyze this however you like. Players come and go. Nagel and crew stay the same. Nagel’s best team was 2016, one-&-done in the AE tourney. We’re 3 seasons removed from 2016. Has Nagel shown you anything to believe he’s going to take us back to that level and beyond? I say no and it’s time for a change.

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SBU Men's Lacrosse / Re: SB Lacrosse 2019 Season
« on: March 18, 2019, 05:29:28 pm »
Season starts Saturday. All about the America East, one at a time and do not over look anyone. Hoop team lost to Binghamton in opening round of playoffs after beating them by a combined 33 points in regular season. Need a W, Go Seawolves

It’s nice some of you are optimistic. But did today’s game at Hartford show you why the rest of us keep saying Nagle needs to be fired immediately?  Hartford was 0-6 and lost to Manhattan by 3. MANHATTAN!  And Manhattan only gave up 8 goals!

Nagle runs the defense. They don’t watch film of the opponents offense and they don’t have the scout offense run the opponents offense during practice. They were not prepared today for Hartford’s rotations! Nagle is an awful coach. He makes the dumbest decisions. He can’t evaluate talent. He decides certain players should play and then he plays them no matter how many mistakes they make in games. The defense has a lot of talent.  But not enough players who have good instincts and lax IQ are on the field together. And no one communicates. And Nagle is incapable of making adjustments during the game.

The offense rotates a lot of players to find the best matchups and who’s got the hot hand. The defense makes no changes. Just keeps doing the same thing over and over and over. Nagle is the definition insanity.

And don’t say the AE is all down this year. Albany lost to Maryland, Syracuse, Cornell and UMass. All highly ranked teams. They didn’t lose to Marist, Sacred Heart and Hartford! And the Hofstra and Bryant wins were lucky bounces at the end against bad teams.

This programs should be better and deserves better. It’s not hard to do. Look at the women’s team. So much talent here on Long Island. Great education for state school tuition.   Close to home so family and friends can come to games. Will never happen while Nagle here because his reputation is for ****. And he has totally earned it.

We need a change. That is if the AD and President will spend the money on something other than football.

Why would anyone be surprised by this weekend’s loss to 0-6 Harford? This is Nagel lax. Anything bad to say about Nagel has been said.  Any questions just read the past posts on this thread. It’s all true. Other SB coaches have gotten it done, Nagel can’t. The only question is when does the AD get rid of him? After this season if SB keeps Nagel shame on SB.

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SBU Men's Lacrosse / Re: SB Lacrosse 2019 Season
« on: March 15, 2019, 12:26:35 pm »
Nagle is 62-56 over the last 8 seasons at Stony Brook.  Mediocre.

Sowell was 47-26 during his 5 seasons at Stony Brook.  This is why people on this forum have the right to have high expectations because this program deserves better and has had better.

The men's bball team was 24-8 this year so I don't care to hear the excuses about lack of campus life and how it is hard to recruit when other teams (and men's lacrosse historically) are successful at SB.
Interesting point about SB baseball. Look at the roster, they're bringing in kids from all over. Let Nagel record speak for itself.

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SBU Men's Lacrosse / Re: SB Lacrosse 2019 Season
« on: March 14, 2019, 04:40:52 pm »
The case can easily be made that even if they win this weak conference and go one and done in the playoffs, the coaching change should be made. Otherwise it’s just postponing the inevitable.
Take out the remnants of Coach Sowell’s team and let Nagel’s record speak for itself.

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SBU Men's Lacrosse / Re: SB Lacrosse 2019 Season
« on: March 08, 2019, 12:30:03 pm »
I just saw that the second leading points getter on the top ranked Towson squad is a Stony Brook transfer. I understand that transfers happen all the time, but it’s still frustrating to see.

He was a Canadian commit, never saw the field. As I said, Nagel's Canadian pipeline is running dry. That and Nagel's bad rep on LI, how we getting back to a top 20 team?

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SBU Men's Lacrosse / Re: SB Lacrosse 2019 Season
« on: March 06, 2019, 05:18:06 pm »
The team is going to rally and win the conference.

I don't actually think that, but I wouldn't be surprised. I was VERY out on Nagle last year last year after they got embarrassed at home, but then they went on to have a decent season. I expect them to do more of the same this year. Nagle teams have a tendency to lose games they should and win games they should lose. How many wins does Nagle have over top 20 teams and how many wins over top 20 teams does stony Brook have in it's D1 history? I'd bet Nagle has a bunch of them.

Nagle has mostly had the unfortunate luck of coaching against this unbelievable run of Albany teams, which has made it both very hard to win an AE title and probably warped our expectations.

Coach Sowell got to the final 4. Coach Spallina has built a top program. 2016 we lost in the first round of the AE tourney, didn't even get to Albany. We are looking at a bottom third team. If Nagel hasn't built a tournament team by now it's not going to happen. Don't tell me it can't be done, Sowell did it, Spallina is doing it. Time for a change.
 

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SBU Men's Lacrosse / Re: SB Lacrosse 2019 Season
« on: March 06, 2019, 12:39:21 pm »
This is ugly lacrosse. We look like a bottom third team. Nagel has to go. Nagel’s only success came with the remnants of Coach Sowell’s team. His best team was 2016, nationally ranked at times, but one-&-done in AE tourney. That team had Rogers, Eastwood, Corpolongo, Randall, and Reh, all MLL drafts. No top recruits are coming to play for SB and Nagel. No LI high school coach is going to endorse SB and Nagel. Nagel’s Canada pipe line is even drying up. Anything bad you’ve heard about Nagel is true. Coach Sowell & Spalina built final 4 programs at Stonybrook. Nagel has shown he can’t get it done. If SB had to keep Nagel for financial and contractual reasons OK. If his contract is up, he’s got to go. Anything will be an improvement.

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SBU Men's Lacrosse / Re: SB Lacrosse 2019 Season
« on: September 28, 2018, 03:48:56 pm »
So after bringing in Notre Dame, Syracuse, Penn State, etc. we're going with Monmouth and Providence?

Nagel is playing to his team’s level. The days of SB being a top 20 team are gone. The days of Rooney, Roger, Corpolongo, Reh, and Randall are gone. SB getting a beat down from Notre Dame or Syracuse is only going to help ND or Cuse recruit top LI talent.  Nagel has a long track record of mediocrity and downfall. We are in the downfall cycle.  Let’s hope they don’t renew his contract.

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SBU Men's Lacrosse / Re: SB Lacrosse 2019 Season
« on: July 19, 2018, 01:07:02 pm »
I haven't followed lacrosse closely over the last few years, but with Fields gone and Lerlan transferring, the AE title seems up for grabs for the first time in a long time.

Let's hope but it’s unlikely. Nagel has a proven track record of 1 and done in the AE tournament. I'm sure Albany's backup FOGO is better than our non FOGO, and we don't have any defenders in the class of Nanticoke. Worst of all Nagel is still there. Expect more nothing. I'm sure we'll see our share of good players transferring from SB Nagel lax, it happens every year. 

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