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Latest rumors have it that ESPN is conspiring with The American to poach some of the remaining Big 12 schools so the conference can disband and they can get out of having to pay them the media rights. It would also get Texas and Oklahoma out of having to pay the exit fees to the remaining members. If you all remember how ESPN killed the Big East a decade ago, they're doing it again here. This is about to get crazy. Expect court cases and a lot of mudslinging.

https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/big-12-commissioner-alleges-espn-conspired-with-sec-american-to-lure-teams-from-conference/

or perhaps your prediction (which i very much appreciate) is that there'll be so much other movement in between FBS and FCS that there'll be openings somehwere... thanks.

Precisely this. These moves at the P5 always have far reaching massive trickle down effects. The gist of it is that Texas and OU leaving the Big 12 cause the Big 12 to raid the AAC for replacement schools, which causes the AAC to raid CUSA/the Sun Belt/JMU for replacements, which causes those leagues to search for replacements, and in all of that shuffling, the idea is that one or two spots open up in the FBS for a few schools. In a dream world SBU would get one of those spots, but that's not happening most likely. I mention the CAA collapsing because JMU leaving could be the straw that breaks the camel's back and causes Richmond, William and Mary, UNCW, CoC etc. to look elsewhere, which opens the door for the America East to grab a couple schools. The CAA has no cohesion with football and non football, public and private, northern and southern... all kinds of different instiutions with no cohesion there. That makes them easy pickings potentially once JMU is gone. With Hartford dropping to D3 we should try and pull in some replacements.

Quote from: VA_Seawolf on July 22, 2021, 02:24:13 am

Massive shakeup in the Big 12 over the last few hours. Texas an Oklahoma are on the out. They're talking to the SEC and likely the Pac-12 and Big Ten as well. That league literally just imploded over the course of a few hours.

https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/big-12-powers-texas-oklahoma-inquire-about-joining-sec-in-potentially-massive-realignment-shakeup/

https://twitter.com/jasonwhitely/status/1418041621820579841?s=21


Normally realignment trickles down all the way to the FCS in one form or another. This time though, I don't see it impacting SBU in any meaningful way. Heilbron has failed to make us an an attractive candidate for an FBS conference. We're stuck here. This may get JMU a spot somewhere though, so my prediction about them being gone soon stands.

The article says the Big12 has to vote on allowing Texas and Oklahoma to depart, and it is not looking likely that they will be granted leave.

That's if they leave before the GOR ends in 2025. If they don't want to give up any money, they can simply wait out the GOR and then move to the SEC/wherever. The Big 12 was always Texas, OU, and then everyone else. If those two leave, the rest of the league is AAC tier at best. I think it's a done deal they move at this point, only question is where. I fully expect the Pac-12 and Big Ten to go all out to get Texas and/or OU as well. SEC would be crazy lucrative, but you have A&M, Missouri, Vanderbilt, and potentially others who may attempt to block the move.

I think a big driver for this is the new laws that let players make money off their name and likeness. The Alabama QB already has a million in endorsement deals. Way more money in that kind of thing if you're in the SEC compared to the Big 12. Money driving realignment as it always has.

Quote from: Campi47 on July 20, 2021, 03:19:20 pm

Oceanside QB Charlie McKee committed to SBU today making him the 2nd commitment for the 2022 Class

Yes, I think McKee could quite possibly be the best QB SB has seen in many, many years..

I feel like we say this every year and none of the guys wind up living up to the hype. Isn't Fields coming back this year anyhow? It's his job to lose (even though it probably shouldn't be).

Quote from: Hammertime on May 26, 2021, 05:21:38 am

Quote from: AirTurn on May 25, 2021, 05:22:56 pm

Quote from: Checkmate on May 25, 2021, 02:00:24 pm

This will do absolutely nothing to close the floodgates.

https://twitter.com/JonRothstein/status/1397219530968076288?s=20

Any mid-major that chooses not to play high-major due to fears of live evaluation should have their athletic administration fired immediately. It's a disservice to the school, the athletes, and the program overall. That money goes a long way, seriously. He's referring to CBB, not sure if CFB will see the same thing, but I'll use CFB as an example anyway. Last year's SBU at FAU game would've netted Stony Brook $400,000. After expenses for travel, lodging, salaries, and whatnot, the school would probably bank close to $200,000 (very rough guess, no idea how far off it is.) That's a **** ton of money. Some FCS schools schedule two FBS teams a year to pad the department's budget, and it's a brilliant move. It makes a lot of money and helps offset the cost of salaries, plus it gets the team's greater media attention. SBU played Virginia in basketball a couple of years ago and was supposed to play Florida this past season. Not sure how much the school received/would receive for those games, but usually, it's in the low six figures for CBB. Again, that's six figures more than SBU gets for playing Seton Hall two years ago. Mid-majors must continue to play higher-tier teams; otherwise, their budgets will shrink. Fans want to see them go against the best. No one wants to pay to see SBU play Bing every year and no great team outside the conference. Stop the dumb **** and worrying about losing players because the teams will scout them at the game and worry about losing players because your facilities are not excellent and the coaching staff is ****.

SBU is pulling in a whopping $625,000 to head to Eugene, Oregon and get royaly **** by the Ducks third string players. Worth it though.

I agree with you entirely when it comes to mid-major playing up major schools. The money is very important for the mid-major athletic budget and it gives the players exposure to play better teams. A win-win for both institutions. It worked for years, why change it now.

I don't totally agree with how SB usually schedules top-tier football schools for the one big payday. Why not try to schedule two G5 schools and make the same money. Like Maine usually does every year. You have a chance of beating UCONN, UMASS, Toledo, Eastern Michigan, Buffalo, etc.. not once, but twice. To fly across the country to get your ass handed to you and make your athletes, school, look like a jackass for money, to me is foolish. Maine has no problem finding G5 schools to play every year, Why cnt SB?

I always thought the same.

We should play more Temple, UConn, UMass, Buffalo, etc as opposed to powerhouses like Oregon.

I wouldn't mind both, but that would be hard on the players. It depends. Financially I see the draw of playing Oregon, but the fan in me would like to see more winnable games against G5 schools that are a reasonable distance away. I think every four years where we get the 12th game we should go ahead and schedule the P5 bodybag game. Otherwise we'd probably be better served to limit it to AAC and MAC teams who we'd have a shot against.

Quote from: AirTurn on May 10, 2021, 11:09:59 pm

Quote from: iBOsbu on May 10, 2021, 10:59:27 pm

With Hartford gone, AEC is now a conference of public universities.. all with high research activity (R1 or R2 classification). It would be great if they add another public to make it even. But unfortunately, I can't think of a suitable candidate meeting the requirements of 1) high-research, 2) state university, and 3) in AEC footprint.

Some candidates:

--Northeastern and Drexel: R1; but private. location wise either would be a good addition. Makes sense for them too.. reducing travel cost. But they would probably not take a u-turn back to AEC.
--Delaware: R1, public... but has FBS aspiration. similar to above, they would probably not take a u-turn back to AEC
--Towson and CCSU: lack research activity which I think current AEC presidents value (Last two additions, UMLowell-R2 and NJIT-R1, are both research oriented State Uni).
--Hofstra: blah.. no

AEC was content with 9 members for a long time. I think its best to wait. There is no rush. CAA will implode soon as JMU is itching to go FBS (and may be even Delaware).

No team is going to leave the CAA for the AE, it just doesn't make sense. There's a significant talent dropoff, as well as athletics funding, and media coverage. CCSU is the only listed team that makes any sense when it comes to moving to the AE, but they'd get screwed over in terms of Football. Every AE team that fields a football team is in the CAA, which already has 12 football members, and that's a lot of teams. If CCSU came to the AE, they couldn't stay in the NEC for Football unless they got an exception for it, and the CAA is not looking to add a 13th member, unless they want to add two and split into two divisions with a championship game to crown the AQ.

I agree that currently no CAA team will leave for AE. But I can see it happening if future based on how dominos fall. There's already a tension between northern and southern schools. And if one of JMU and Delaware decide to try their luck in FBS, I have a feeling things will not go smooth. W&M may decide that without any of the VA opponents (GMU, VCU, JMU), CAA is not that enticing.. and may move to SoCon or Patriot. And I am sure CofC, UNCW, Elon etc would want another southern member (UNCG perhaps), which wont sit well with Northern teams. That's why I am against Stony Brook joining CAA all sports. CAA is on a shaky foundation.

As for CCSU, I just dont think current AE presidents see them as peer school. Even if NEC allows to park their football, highly unlikely, I still dont think AEC will extend an invite to CCSU.

Everything you're saying is spot on. I think the CAA is in serious trouble once JMU goes FBS (it's only a matter of time in the next 3-4 years once the new playoff format is finalized and realignment starts happening again), the rift between northern and southern, football and non football, private and public schools will become too great. At that time I think we'd be wise to offer Towson and Delaware to join the AE as full members and bring football in-house at that point. They were both former AE members IIRC and geographically they fit. Delaware in particular would be a great add.

I also wouldn't mind getting Northeastern back in the conference. They're a large school and having a school directly in Boston again I think would be nice for the AE. Getting those three would get us back to a solid 12 teams.


Hofstra can go pound sand back to the MAAC or even better D3 

It’s Anthony Lamb. The best post-Warney player the conference has seen, who only is getting NBA time because he’s on the worst team in the league.

I’d love for sources to compile this into an official New York Times piece because right now it’s just Instagram accounts. But it shouldn’t take much to verify. Anthony Lamb is accused of being a serial rapist, raping girls since his high school days and raping numerous girls at Vermont. The entire men’s team is accused of participating in a gang **** at the basketball house. This is the type of stuff that will bring down Becker, Vermont’s AD and anyone else invovled in the cover up.

My goodness. What the hell is going on over there at Vermont?? I've seen the two Instagram posts that reference Lamb and the alleged actions of the rest of the team and it's shocking. Pressure is certainly building on the university and it's gaining more media attention.


I want to see this investigated (by people outside of the University) and see what comes back, because not to sound crass, but there have been instances of innocent lives being ruined based on false accusations with no evidence, so let the investigation play out and if any of this turns out to be true, throw the goddamn book at Lamb, and the UVM Athletic program. Two Instagram posts alone aren't enough. That said, that kind of sh*t should never be allowed to go on. It's almost reminiscent of what happened at Baylor several years ago.

This is also why Universities shouldn't have their own police departments, there becomes an incentive to cover things like this up.