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SBU Men's Basketball / Re: 2018 Recruiting
« on: August 18, 2017, 12:09:46 pm »
I still disagree. Do you realize the AE is constantly always at the bottom as far as conference strength is concern!!!! I would think SB could attract better athletes if their sports programs played in the CAA. You have no idea if JMU is going to move up to the CAA anytime soon. I see SH wanting SB to move up to FBS before JMU does...


The AE isn't the best, but it can get better. Our league is poised to be quite good this year. I still don't see the value in hopping from a single one bid league to another. Better athletes could be a reason to move, but is there proof we'd be able to recruit any better in the CAA as opposed to the AE? The downsides of the CAA are the increased travel and sports like Lacrosse may take a hit in that league.

If we did move to the CAA however, it's likely we wouldn't be alone. Albany I'm almost certain would tag along which would make the jump a bit more attractive.

Heilbron can want to take us to FBS, but there's no chance in Hell we move to FBS before JMU. JMU already has the facilities, stadium, and winning tradition to be attractive to an FBS conference TODAY. They turned the Sun Belt down a few years ago and are arguably a more attractive school than ODU for a conference. They're the next team out the door and when they're gone, expect significant changes to the CAA.

Our average home attendance last year (3,221) would have put us ahead of three A-10 teams – Duquesne, Fordham and LaSalle, all perennial doormats – and just behind George Washington, which ranked 11th in the 14-team conference. The arena, while beautiful, does cap in the low 4,000s, but a media friend told me that the A-10 "would trade La Salle for Stony Brook tomorrow if it could."

In the CAA, we would've ranked third behind UNCW and C of C. Our attendance is double what Hofstra, Towson, Northeastern and Elon get, and TRIPLE what Drexel drew. Two years ago, we'd have been second.

Do I smell an expansion of IFCU in the future??? Now thats asking a bit much!!

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SBU Men's Basketball / Re: 2018 Recruiting
« on: August 17, 2017, 05:11:24 pm »
I've said it before and I'll stick by it, I'm not high on the CAA. It's simply another one bid league and a more competitive one at that. We're better off being a game or two away from a tourney appearance yearly in the AE, then losing in the first round of a more competitive CAA tournament. Until it becomes a multibid league again I'm not interested. The A10 is a different animal though. The CAA will be even weaker once JMU leaves for an FBS all sports conference. Perhaps then we'll get the call along with Albany,but IDK if we should bite then. It's not a worthwhile move if you ask me.


The CAA has 10 members, usually conferences require a 2/3rds or 3/4ths vote to admit a new member. Hofstra alone can't block us, but if another school like say Northeastern joined them out of fear of regional competition, and then College of Charleston didn't want to add another member up north, those three together could have been enough to end our consideration. It's not hard to form a coalition against schools like this. Serves them right though. Hofstra can stay in a dying CAA. I could see them coming back to the AE begging (along with Delaware) once JMU leaves the CAA.

I still disagree. Do you realize the AE is constantly always at the bottom as far as conference strength is concern!!!! I would think SB could attract better athletes if their sports programs played in the CAA. You have no idea if JMU is going to move up to the CAA anytime soon. I see SH wanting SB to move up to FBS before JMU does...

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SBU Men's Basketball / Re: 2018 Recruiting
« on: August 17, 2017, 12:15:09 pm »
They could if they wanted to .  I think Hofstra feels a little threatened with SBU . Hofstra enrollment is dropping to almost under 10k students . A few years ago it was nearly 15k but  cost (42,000) a year and the area the campus is may be working against them .

WOW. I didnt know that about Hofstra enrollment . Maybe they need to lower the cost of their admissions, too.. It is my understanding Hofstra not cheap to get in.. But what gives Hofstra the right to block another institution from participating in their sports conference just because they feel threaten? Makes no sense and it should not be allowed. I would think the CAA commissioner would have a lot to say about that as well.. It's not like SB isn't already affiliated with the CAA, so it should just be a matter of fitting us in schedule wise rather than having a school vote..

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SBU Men's Basketball / Re: 2018 Recruiting
« on: August 17, 2017, 11:38:49 am »
Hammer this has been explained a few times. SB wanted to mive all sports to CAA but were blocked by a couple of schools with Hofstra being one of them. Since Hofstra doesnt have football anymore they couldnt stop that move.

Just curious. Can Hofstra and others still block SB from making the leap, if so, why.. Why would they??

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SBU Men's Basketball / Re: 2018 Recruiting
« on: August 17, 2017, 04:35:38 am »
Interesting point raised re recruiting competition with Hofstra. Hofstra plays against teams from mid-Atlantic and Carolinas as opposed to New England. Also CAA already has a good reputation as a mid major conference; many still don't realize how much it has been weakened by departures. May be the advisers to recruits think it's still the same old conference with stellar mid-major teams like VCU and GMU etc.

I have been saying since day one when we moved from the Big South to the CAA, SB needs to move all sports out of the AE and into the CAA.. Some people feel it's a waste of time and would only be a lateral because both conferences are one bid leagues... I disagree with that assessment.. I think the level of competition is tougher in the CAA as a whole for all sports then the AE. If you are looking for better athletes, the CAA is where we belong. Not the AE.. My opinion..

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SBU Men's Basketball / Re: 2017-18 schedule
« on: August 17, 2017, 04:29:37 am »
Michigan State too!?!? This is excellent!! I'm so glad we're really moving full steam ahead on getting these tougher games even if they're mostly on the road (for now). We should be playing a couple B1G, Big East, and AAC teams every year minimum along with Hofstra. This is as good of an OOC schedule as you can expect from us. We're likely going to need to win the AE to make the NCAAT (unless we win all these games) so we lose nothing by scheduling aggressively like this. It makes the case for at-large inclusion that much easier if we ever got to that point. Providence, Maryland, Michigan State, and Uconn? Those are all perennial tournament teams give or take a year or to here or there. Excellent gets all around. I hope we can keep these kinds of games up in the future.

As long as coach Boals stays here, we will.. I am very happy so far with the SH hiring of coach Boals.. I remember when Boals was first hired there were some people moaning and groaning about SH making a poor choice, well. So far I am very happy with with both SH and Boals performance with this program, and football too.

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   This gift   will certainly help our programs .

Absolutely. Supposedly the money is going towards the mens and womens locker rooms repairs

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SBU Men's Basketball / Re: 2017-18 schedule
« on: August 16, 2017, 10:21:47 am »
The date of the Maryland game at the Coliseum has been moved from November 11th (Saturday) to November 10th (Friday).

Are you going???  Friday Basketball, Saturday Football.
Most likely attending the game at the Coliseum. I will probably buy the tickets from a scalper at the Coliseum for at least 50% off the face.

Do you think there will actually be scalpers selling tickets at this game????

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SBU Men's Basketball / Re: 2017-18 schedule
« on: August 16, 2017, 04:50:29 am »
The date of the Maryland game at the Coliseum has been moved from November 11th (Saturday) to November 10th (Friday).

Are you going???  Friday Basketball, Saturday Football.

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SBU Men's Basketball / Re: 2018 Recruiting
« on: August 15, 2017, 11:58:51 am »
Notwithstanding some very good recruiting lately, I've noticed a very disturbing trend.  SBU often goes up against Hofstra for good talent.  Some of those players that both schools recruit are fiercely recruited by other schools as well, even including more reputed mid-majors and even some high majors.  In the past week alone, both Jared Rhoden and Samba Diallo (both highly rated recruits) have narrowed their candidate lists for their commitment decisions.  In both cases, the Seawolves were removed from consideration.  Not all that surprising, you might say.  However, Hofstra remained on the list in each case--WHY?

I've attended games at both schools, and grew up on LI.  There is no doubt in my mind that SBU's facilities and academics are head and shoulders above Hofstra's.  Furthermore, Hofstra's record was anything but stellar last season.  Somehow, we must get the word out forcefully that if you're a well-rated recruit, would consider a lesser hailed conference than others that have offered, and are willing to look at Long Island--the choice should overwhelmingly be SBU over Hofstra!!

If SB would to ever move their Basketball program into the A-10, that would all change..

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SBU Men's Basketball / Re: 2018 Recruiting
« on: August 14, 2017, 02:18:08 pm »
Alex Christie played his last year at this elite college basketball prep school called (MacDuffie pre school) and they apparently were very high on him coming in. He is huge. 7'0" 260 pounds. He looks strong and they say he is a very good runner and jumper .

http://www.canadianballers.com/news_article/show/675421-the-macduffie-school-land-7-footer-alex-christie

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SBU Men's Basketball / Re: 2018 Recruiting
« on: August 14, 2017, 01:57:40 pm »
Seems like we just beat out UMass for a 7 ft big man. Welcome Alex Christie.

No idea how good he is (then again, the America East doesn't really get good seven footers), but we could use some height.

https://twitter.com/alex_christie21/status/897146976160145411

https://verbalcommits.com/players/alex-christie


WOW, very impressive. Rivals has him at 2*.. Trying to find some videos of him..

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SBU Men's Basketball / Re: 2017-18 schedule
« on: August 14, 2017, 12:18:01 pm »
Uconn is a great get. Even as a road game. Their still a strong program, but they aren't what they once were. I'd love to come out of there with a W as unlikely as that may seem.

I'm definitely looking forward to this game... Looks like a road trip is in order..

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SBU Football / Re: SBU Football 2017
« on: August 14, 2017, 08:14:21 am »
Read this.... Rutgers has an attendance problem like we do and thats because they dont win games. Read what some players say about that..

http://www.app.com/story/sports/college/2017/08/14/rutgers-football-fans-show-up-season/562934001/

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SBU Football / Re: SBU Football 2017
« on: August 14, 2017, 05:26:35 am »
I'm not exactly sure what the huge fuss is about. It is very easy to focus on the few negatives around this program compared to the many positives, that's just human nature. It is however very hard to talk about this year's team while ignoring the elephant in the room that we could very easily finish 3-8 or 4-7. We just lost our top notch DC, and our offense has struggled to put points on the board these past four seasons. There's reason for concern. You can't just ignore these things when you're trying to build a fanbase, and see the program ascend to bigger, better things.

Athletics is a huge source of publicity for the school. It is in the interest of us all that the athletic teams win as many games as possible. Pointing this out doesn't mean we aren't fans of the athletic programs. We're passionate about the direction the program is heading because we care. If I didn't give a hoot about how this program was doing, I wouldn't watch games, wouldn't donate, and I certainly wouldn't be talking about the program on a forum like this one. It's when nobody is saying anything about your program that you have to sound the alarm bells.  There's nothing wrong with expecting more from your coaches and programs.

Well said VA_Seawolf.... If people didnt care about the health of the athletic program you wold be hearing crickets instead of comments, either good or bad.. Like you, I am a long time season ticket holder and donate a good amount of $$ to the program and would love nothing more to see SB football win a national title or just make the playoffs every year, like UNH does..

Crissy, who constantly bashes me for being outspoken, but thats ok because that is his right to do so, is correct about not giving some of the players accolades for their hard work off the field and into the classrooms.. Coach P should definitely get the credit for that, however I go to the games to watch them play football out on the field, not in the classrooms so my love is really for SB athletics not so much SB academics, even though it should be academic first, athletics second.. I am a fan of all sports and pay to watch them play and compete against other college kids. That is why i attend games..Kudos to the athletes that do extremely well in the classrooms and I hope they all make a bundle of $$$ when they graduate from SB so they can give back to the institution that gave them a free education or even partially free education..

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