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SBU Men's Basketball / Re: Game 21: vs. Binghamton, 1/22 7pm
« on: January 22, 2020, 10:54:31 pm »
Missed the game. How the hell did Pierre Sarr go for 19, 14 and 5?

A week to get our act together.

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SBU Men's Basketball / Re: Game 21: vs. Binghamton, 1/22 7pm
« on: January 22, 2020, 08:51:41 pm »
Is Binghamton our kryptonite? My god.

May get a lift from UMBC and even Maine tonight. Gotta hold serve ourselves though.

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SBU Men's Basketball / Game 21: vs. Binghamton, 1/22 7pm
« on: January 22, 2020, 07:29:11 pm »
Their shooting numbers will come way down. We’ll still roll.

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SBU Men's Basketball / Re: Game 21: vs. Binghamton, 1/22 7pm
« on: January 20, 2020, 08:53:11 pm »
i saw sessoms a few times last year and think he's the real deal.  after reading your preview im now intrigued by tinsley.  who covers him you think?  a garcia/ola type?

I think you could go either way. Tinsley's a nice role player, but not really a #2 option. He's their pick and roll/pop guy with Sessoms, and he'll also plant himself in a corner to knock down the three. You'll see that his breakout performances are when he's been on point from deep. I do think his minutes are less about ability (which isn't to say he isn't good) and more an indictment of the roster – not enough talent, not enough size. Look at their frontcourt for the foreseeable future and recruiting profile on VerbalCommits. You want to talk about grim. Yikes.

For us, he'd be a good second guy off the bench after Gueye. Eventually he and Mills will be good though. It's just so early to count on 35 TO 38 MINUTES A NIGHT from those two. SBU stat links are broken for the early to mid 2010s, but I do see Dougher was over 35 for a season in '08-09.

They have gotten some good minutes recently from this kid JJ Brown, who seems like a Dion Waiters instant-offense type.

Bingo's actually played a decent amount of man this year too, along with a 1-2-2 press and even I believe some 3-2 in the halfcourt.

SBU Men's Basketball / Game 21: vs. Binghamton, 1/22 7pm
« on: January 20, 2020, 05:45:16 pm »
Record: 7-11, 1-4 America East
Last 10: 3-7
Last Game: Maine 86, Binghamton 63 on 1/19/20
Last Game with SBU: Binghamton 78, Stony Brook 72 in AE quarters on 3/9/19; BU led 53-29 with 16 min left; Olaniyi 27 and 9
Checkmate Unofficial Line: Stony Brook -16.5
NET Ranking: Stony Brook 130, Binghamton 337
KenPom Rating: Stony Brook 126, Binghamton 335
KenPom Prediction: Stony Brook 81, Binghamton 63
Olaniyi Point Watch: 1,016
Division I: Currently 10th. Next up: Mike Popoko (2003-07)/Anthony Jackson (2010-14) 1,048
All-time: Currently 24th. Next up: Greg Angrum (1980-84) 1,031
6-0/190 so G Sam Sessoms 17.8 ppg, 5.1 rpg, 4.2 apg, 1.6 spg, .809 FT%
6-3/185 fr G Brenton Mills 12.7 ppg, 3.4 rpg, .385 3-pt FG%
6-6/200 fr F George Tinsley 10.4 ppg, 8.2 rpg, 1.2 bpg
6-8/215 sr F Pierre Sarr 9.2 ppg, 7.2 rpg
6-4/190 sr G Richard Caldwell Jr. 6.4 ppg, 3.3 rpg, .375 3-pt FG%

My first, second and third thoughts: How the hell did we lose that game in March? Ugh.

Bingo's headed for another bottom half finish in the America East. In fact, they haven't finished higher than fifth in conference since Broadus took them to the tournament in 2009 – and then making a quick exit amid a recruiting scandal. He resurfaced as the HC at Morgan State this year and has them in good shape already.

I thought they were on to something early on this year, utilizing their young talent to upend a few decent teams – Army, BU, Sacred Heart, etc – but it's been the same old Binghamton ever since, with three lopsided conference losses leading into this one. Most recently, they got flattened by Maine 86-63 up in Orono on Sunday, getting outrebounded 43-23 and allowing Maine to shoot 53 percent. Coincidentally, they beat the Black Bears by 23 at BU late last year.

Dempsey has really ridden Sessoms, Mills and Tinsley in the first half of the season. Tinsley leads the conference in minutes at a whopping 38.1 per game, which ranks fifth nationally. To give you an idea of how rare that is, he's the only freshman in the top 50, and one of only three in the top 100. In league, Sessoms ranks fifth (34.2) and Mills is seventh (33.9). I just wonder if these guys can sustain it for an entire season, before they really mature and before they get in the weight room in the offseason. Dempsey raves about Tinsley's toughness and he's had to be. I just hope that, with the way players move around, they all stick around. Six players transferred out in the offseason, so only THREE Bearcats remain from the team who beat us in March – Sessoms, Caldwell and reserve Leo Gallagher.

You'll recall that Binghamton will play a 2-3 zone, which may have given us trouble in the past, but it should be something against which we can get wide-open looks from deep. I also think we can utilize Gueye as a weapon in the high post. We saw a little bit of that against Albany.

Offensively for BU, it obviously all starts with Sessoms, who did not impress in his first game here but sure showed up in the postseason, going for 26 despite shooting only 1 for 6 from the line. I was definitely one of his naysayers, but he was terrific that night. Of course, in the semis in Burlington, he put up a donut. Zippo.

Whether it's on Wednesday or down the road, I just can't see a younger version of their roster coming in – Show, Barnard, Davis and Stewart out, a bunch of newcomers in – and competing against what I view to be a team far superior to last year's, all of whom remember their last visit.

Us by 20.

SBU Men's Basketball / Re: Game 20: vs. Albany, 1/18 7pm
« on: January 20, 2020, 03:11:40 pm »
"These days there’s such an emphasis on the three because it’s proven to be analytically correct. Now you look at a stat sheet after a game and the first thing you look at is the threes. If you made threes and the other team didn’t, you win. You don’t even look at the rebounds or the turnovers or how much transition D was involved. You don’t even care. That’s how much an impact the three-point shot has and it’s evidenced by how everybody plays.” – Gregg Popovich

Everything in moderation, guys. The bottom line is we're the best three-point shooting team in the conference by a wide margin. We shoot more. We make more. And it's not as though we aren't still attacking the rim, but I'll take a (wide) open three over a contested two most of the time. Just look at the numbers – 45th in the country in 3%, 262nd in 2%. You tell me where we have the edge on everyone else.

Yes, there will be nights when they don't go down, some individual attempts that you'd take back, but it's the way the game's going and we have the personnel to use it to our advantage. I pray that, when everything's on the line, we're on. And looking way down the line, cart completely in front of the horse, if we have ANY hope of winning a tournament game against a more athletic, more physical high-major team, we better be ready to shoot it!

SBU Men's Basketball / Re: Game 20: vs. Albany, 1/18 7pm
« on: January 18, 2020, 10:43:41 pm »
One of our better shooting nights and an off night for UA. They'll be ready for us up at their place. I will say that it felt like they lacked some offensive punch. Clark ended up with 21 but still doesn't feel like a reliable #1 option. They need him though. He and Healy are really it. They had 26 points in the paint, but it wasn't because of any real inside presence.

I think we often overlook Latimer because of what Olaniyi, Foreman, Garcia and the big guys do. His offensive numbers are down, but he's developed into a really strong on-ball defender. He was a pest tonight on Clark even if he had a game-high 21.

Eleven assists isn't a lot, but I did like the back cuts that led to some easy baskets. A few times the UA defender overcommitted on an anticipated handoff up top, and instead our guy dove toward the hoop and we did well getting it to him, whoever it was.

Retroactive kudos to TPP, who's gotten a few DNPs of late, but it shines a light on the important minutes he played in the first two months.

Friendly reminder: Policelli will be in the rotation next year. Yet another shooter.

SBU Men's Basketball / Re: Game 20: vs. Albany, 1/18 7pm
« on: January 18, 2020, 08:11:02 pm »
Ahmad Clark has to drive UA fans crazy.

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SBU Men's Basketball / Re: Game 20: vs. Albany, 1/18 7pm
« on: January 18, 2020, 07:46:58 pm »
Vermont rolls. If we win tonight, we’re even with UVM, UA and Hartford. We’ll actually be in first with a 2-1 record against that grouping.

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Actually, we'll be in sole possession of 1st, with a 4-1 record.  Of course, we will have played 1 more game than these other 3 (they would all be 3-1).

Ah my fault. I was going off memory, which is known to suck.

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SBU Men's Basketball / Re: Game 20: vs. Albany, 1/18 7pm
« on: January 18, 2020, 03:56:18 pm »
Vermont rolls. If we win tonight, we’re even with UVM, UA and Hartford. We’ll actually be in first with a 2-1 record against that grouping.

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SBU Men's Basketball / Game 20: vs. Albany, 1/18 7pm
« on: January 17, 2020, 10:44:50 pm »
ALBANY (10-8, 3-0 America East)
Last Game: Albany 76, New Hampshire 73 (OT) on 1/14/20
Last Game with SBU: Albany 74, Stony Brook 70 on 2/21/19; Yeboah 22 and 12; SBU 13-24 FTs
Checkmate Unofficial Line: Stony Brook -7
NET Ranking: Stony Brook 133, Albany 230
KenPom Rating: Stony Brook 122, Albany 224
KenPom Prediction: Stony Brook 73, Albany 63
Olaniyi 1,000 Point Watch: 996
6-1/175 sr G Ahmad Clark 16.2 ppg, 5.0 rpg, 3.4 apg, 1.2 spg, .354 3-pt FG%, .788 FT%
6-3/190 so G Cameron Healy 15.6 ppg, 4.6 rpg, .379 3-pt FG%, .889 FT%
6-6/200 so F Malachi de Sousa 7.4 ppg, 5.5 rpg
6-5/195 fr F Trey Hutcheson 7.2 ppg, 3.3 rpg, .383 3-pt FG%, .774 FT%
6-8/245 so F Adam Lulka 5.1 ppg, 4.3 rpg

I can't help but remember how they handled us on our home court last season. We felt good coming in, like we'd have to play poorly to lose, and that's just what we did – ill-timed turnovers, poor shooting from three, a horrendous night from the line, and that was that. Just five made threes, and it's hard to win with just five makes these days. Meanwhile Healy and Rizzuto went berserk from deep, and UA was also able to pound it inside to an otherwise irrelevant Kendall Lauderdale, who went for 17 and 9.

We'll face essentially the same team Saturday night – good shooters, good guard play, depth inside even if it's unspectacular, and a savvy coach.

They have had some curious results to this point though, struggling to beat Maine and New Hampshire in its last two times out, needing OT to beat the latter on Wednesday. They got taken to the woodshed by Quinnipiac in November and have also lost to Manhattan, Lehigh and Bucknell as well. I refuse to believe those were anything less than a mirage. The coach and team are too good to be taken lightly.

The numbers are there for Clark but I can't say I've been a big fan of his game – too erratic, too turnover-prone, fills the boxscore against bad teams. I never feel like he does anything against us. I'm more worried about Healy, who is capable of an unconscious shooting night, as well as Rizzuto, who has tailed off of late but can be that wounded dog who comes in and drops 20. He had a big steal and score late against UNH to propel them to win. Maybe that's just what he needs to get jumpstarted.

I wouldn't say I'm confident about this one, but hopefully Wednesday's loss got us back in line the last couple days. This is a big one – as all UA games are – but we have a chance to seize a share of first place once again (assuming UVM beats Hartford; they are SEVENTEEN POINT FAVORITES #takethepoints). As I said in the previous thread, we'll have already gone into Burlington and Hartford, as well as faced Albany at home. We'd then be able to get fat against the dregs of the league over the next seven – Bingo twice, Lowell twice, UNH, Maine, UMBC here. I have to think 7-0 is in play although maybe we stub our toe somewhere.

Keep an eye on our three-point shooting here. It's inevitable that we'll take 25 a night, but Makale's proficiency has overshadowed our otherwise subpar numbers in conference – he's 20 for 44 (.455), the rest of the team is 18 for 58 (.310). We've been at or around 30 percent the last few seasons in conference, which isn't good enough.

Should be a good crowd. Looking forward to it. And it'll be great to celebrate Olaniyi hitting 1,000 – he'll get a great hand.

SBU Men's Basketball / Re: Game 19: at Hartford, 1/15 7pm
« on: January 15, 2020, 09:47:50 pm »
If we and UVM hold serve on Saturday, we'll have a four-way tie for first at the quarter pole. We'll have faced the toughest road to that point – at UVM, at Hartford and home to Albany. UA needed OT to win in Durham tonight.

Then look at the next six for us – Bingo twice, Lowell twice, UMBC and UNH. No excuse not to take at least a five-game winning streak into our rematch with Vermont here.

Green, re: Mac, when Garcia went out, I thought we'd go TPP, TSM or Ochefu there and was surprised to see Mac come out. I thought we had enough ball handling on the floor with Foreman, Olaniyi and Latimer and, with Ochefu, would have preferred size to get on the offensive and defensive glass.

I really think we thought they'd go away when we were up six, but they knocked down one or two massive threes, and Ellison came alive a bit. Not terribly impressed with him BTW.

SBU Men's Basketball / Re: Game 19: at Hartford, 1/15 7pm
« on: January 15, 2020, 09:45:07 pm »
Hartford isn’t a bad team; they have a new team entirely with guys who played at Pitt, St Johns, Lafayette, and Marquette. I mean, Dunn comes off the bench and hardly plays.

That said, you can’t expect to win a game shooting 36% from the field and 61% from the line. When we were up 6, it looked like an easy win, but we wilted just like uvm did to us with their 5 point lead. Bad loss, given our 2nd half comeback, just to give it back to them. Too much jinxing press this week, must have gotten to us.

Different Dunne.

SBU Men's Basketball / Re: Game 19: at Hartford, 1/15 7pm
« on: January 15, 2020, 09:10:58 pm »
I'd love to see Elijah's splits at the line – front end and back end. I'm guessing he's much worse on the back end. I mean, you can't expect to go 16-0 – just a tough way to lose after crawling all the way back into it. I think we thought they'd just lay down but they're pretty balanced.

SBU Men's Basketball / Re: Game 19: at Hartford, 1/15 7pm
« on: January 15, 2020, 09:02:21 pm »
I really don't want anyone but Elijah or Foreman taking the shot right now. That said, point blank look from Mac right there – as good as you'll do but just wouldn't go down. Would've been a big make for a guy who's struggled offensively.

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