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Title: 2019 Football Season
Post by: Campi47 on March 13, 2019, 12:36:51 pm
With the Spring Season right around the corner I wanted to mention a few things;

There are only 14 seniors on the current Spring Roster so this will be a relatively young team

The QB job will be wide open and with 2 redshirt juniors and 2 redshirt sophomores in the competition. What I have been told is that for the 2020 SBU will be bringing in a scholarship QB either through transfer or high school.

There is only 1 senior RB with 1 redshirt sophomore 1 redshirt freshmen 2 true freshmen

Expect at least 4 FBS transfers right after Spring Camp

There are 2 new Coaches one at WR and one at CB
 

Title: Re: 2019 Football Season
Post by: sbugold on March 13, 2019, 02:03:18 pm
With the Spring Season right around the corner I wanted to mention a few things;

There are only 14 seniors on the current Spring Roster so this will be a relatively young team

The QB job will be wide open and with 2 redshirt juniors and 2 redshirt sophomores in the competition. What I have been told is that for the 2020 SBU will be bringing in a scholarship QB either through transfer or high school.

There is only 1 senior RB with 1 redshirt sophomore 1 redshirt freshmen 2 true freshmen

Expect at least 4 FBS transfers right after Spring Camp

There are 2 new Coaches one at WR and one at CB
 



As usual, thanks for your info Campi. but isn't that we have 2 redshirt freshman (not sophomores at QB?  And, if so, are you surprised that we'd be bringing in a transfer, given the apparent quality of our 2 young QB candidates?

Also, at RB I thought we had 2 redshirt freshman (Lawton and Indelicato) and a junior (Pickett).  You're usually right about these things. So please help straighten me out.
Title: Re: 2019 Football Season
Post by: Campi47 on March 13, 2019, 03:43:42 pm
We have Fields and Cassidy as redshirt juniors then we have Zamot and Sanchez as redshirt freshmen so for the 2020 they want to bring in a QB recruit to redshirt now the question is will it be a transfer or a true freshmen

As far as the RB's go I'm looking at the Spring Roster and Pickett is not on the Roster so we have White as a redshirt senior Lawton and Indeiicato as redshirt freshmen there is also 2 true freshmen coming in the Fall
Title: Re: 2019 Football Season
Post by: sbufan on March 13, 2019, 04:27:02 pm
Interesting that Cassidy is in competition for the QB job.
Title: Re: 2019 Football Season
Post by: Green Baron on March 13, 2019, 04:34:41 pm
Any news about the Wisconsin QB from Long Island...
Title: Re: 2019 Football Season
Post by: Campi47 on March 13, 2019, 10:24:56 pm
When I named the 4 QB's I was saying that these are the only ones that are on the Roster right now and by the way they are all on scholarship

As far as Jack Coan goes if he doesn't win the QB job then I can see him transferring to another FBS College if he goes FCS then I would say it would be a top tier school like North Dakota State but at this time I don't see him coming here.

Title: Re: 2019 Football Season
Post by: sbugold on March 14, 2019, 09:37:57 am
I just checked out the spring roster and noticed a number of unexpected missing players from last season.  Any insight into why the following players are not listed?

-- RB Kameron Pickett
-- FB Nick Campo
-- WR Kyle Vadis
-- TE Tyrone Wheatley
-- DB Xavier Braithwaite
-- DB Demarcus Miller
-- LS Anthony Santorelli
-- K Nick Courtney
Title: Re: 2019 Football Season
Post by: sbufan on March 14, 2019, 11:22:44 am
Losing Wheatley is a major loss. That's unfortunate
Title: Re: 2019 Football Season
Post by: Chrissy D. on March 14, 2019, 11:44:36 am
Jack Coan is set to be starting qb for wisconsin with 3 yrs of eligibility. The other qb transfered after coan started the bowl game over him.
Title: Re: 2019 Football Season
Post by: Campi47 on March 14, 2019, 12:45:34 pm
The list of players that are no longer on the SBU Roster have left the program for an assortment of reasons; walk-ons who were never going to play, academic issues, injuries preventing them from playing, discipline issues, etc.

Jack Coan has not been guaranteed the starting job in fact the 5 Star QB that signed was guaranteed that he will have a chance to be the starting QB if he out performs everyone else so don't assume Coan will be the starter. Also he played in a lot of games as a true freshmen and sophomore so he may only have 2 years and not 3.

I also have heard the transfers that their after are like players of the caliber of Casey Williams who came in last year and did a great job.
Title: Re: 2019 Football Season
Post by: Chrissy D. on March 14, 2019, 01:34:57 pm
Campi, i believe with the new redshirt rules Coan will get 3 more yrs to play. Thats what was explained during the bowl game.
Title: Re: 2019 Football Season
Post by: Wolffan on March 14, 2019, 04:52:19 pm
Campi, i believe with the new redshirt rules Coan will get 3 more yrs to play. Thats what was explained during the bowl game.

He has two years left (and the redshirt backup and hotshot new guy are both good).  He played a few games two years ago (prior to the new rule) and the Pinstripe Bowl (his 5th game) cost him year 2. He did not dazzle  Badger Nation.

https://www.sbnation.com/college-football/2018/12/20/18150563/wisconsin-jack-coan-redshirt
Title: Re: 2019 Football Season
Post by: Campi47 on April 07, 2019, 10:00:30 am
I was at the 1st Spring Scrimmage yesterday now I know it's only the 1st one but I was happy as the hitting was just as hard as a regular season game.

The QB's all looked good and even though there was sloppiness at times they all played well. In fact both sides of the ball played very hard.

SBU has signed two transfers one from Ball State and the other from South Florida and have two more coming in soon so that will bring experience to a very young team

The new coaches that have been hired are very seasoned and will really help this squad develop
Title: Re: 2019 Football Season
Post by: Hammertime on April 08, 2019, 04:50:49 am
I was at the 1st Spring Scrimmage yesterday now I know it's only the 1st one but I was happy as the hitting was just as hard as a regular season game.

The QB's all looked good and even though there was sloppiness at times they all played well. In fact both sides of the ball played very hard.

SBU has signed two transfers one from Ball State and the other from South Florida and have two more coming in soon so that will bring experience to a very young team

The new coaches that have been hired are very seasoned and will really help this squad develop

Thats great to hear Campi. How did Joshua Zamot look.
Title: Re: 2019 Football Season
Post by: Campi47 on April 08, 2019, 12:09:02 pm
Joshua Zamot looks really good and would not be surprised if he plays this year. A few years ago SBU was going to bring in a QB from Nassau CC Zamot reminds a lot of that player.
Title: Re: 2019 Football Season
Post by: VA_Seawolf on April 09, 2019, 12:23:58 am
Glad the QBs look good. I suspect whoever wins the job will be a clear step up from Carbone and will make everybody wonder why whoever it winds up being wasn't playing sooner. 
Title: Re: 2019 Football Season
Post by: Hammertime on April 10, 2019, 05:34:33 am
Glad the QBs look good. I suspect whoever wins the job will be a clear step up from Carbone and will make everybody wonder why whoever it winds up being wasn't playing sooner.

Why was Carbone an SB starting QB for as long as he played remains a mystery to me. The only thing I can think of was, Pay for play. Though, I seriously doubt that was the case.
Title: Re: 2019 Football Season
Post by: Wolffan on April 10, 2019, 07:28:42 am
I did find it curious that we had a quarterback with a subpar arm (for high level FCS) and subpar (for high level FCS)  legs running our offense last year. Even though we are a running team, any CAA QB should have either a strong arm or foot speed (both, if possible). If he is replaced by a running QB that can throw if he has to, that'll be an upgrade IMHO.

That being said, Carbone  was a tough and experienced competitor last year. Those two adjectives mean a lot to our head coach.
 
Title: Re: 2019 Football Season
Post by: Chairman of the Board on April 18, 2019, 03:46:15 pm
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Quarterbacks Tyquell Fields and Jack Cassidy have looked very good through the first three weeks of drills. Both have the ability to use their legs and put pressure on opposing defenses. I'm also excited about running backs Ty Son Lawton and Isaiah White.

https://stonybrookathletics.com/news/2019/4/18/together-we-transform-blog-together-we-transform-thursday-april-18-2019.aspx?path=blog
Title: Re: 2019 Football Season
Post by: Chairman of the Board on April 25, 2019, 05:12:27 pm
some nice words for lawton: https://stonybrookathletics.com/news/2019/4/25/together-we-transform-blog-together-we-transform-thursday-april-25-2019.aspx?path=blog
Title: Re: 2019 Football Season
Post by: Chairman of the Board on June 17, 2019, 09:10:50 pm
touchdown club:

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THE 2019 SEASON WILL FEATURE 7 HOME GAMES!

The tent opens 90 minutes prior to kick-off. Members and guests can stay in the tent throughout the game and enjoy buffet-style food, beer and soft drinks. Food and beverages will stop being served at the start of the second half.

homecoming 10/5 https://news.stonybrook.edu/stony-brook-matters/uncategorized/save-the-date-for-homecoming-2019/?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=matters_ad_june
Title: Re: 2019 Football Season
Post by: VA_Seawolf on June 18, 2019, 09:13:37 pm
I think it's kinda dumb making JMU the homecoming game to be honest. Sure it's going to be the greatest atmosphere and greatest attendance SBU ever had, but I'm pretty confident we could have gotten close to that even if it wasn't homecoming. JMU isn't the kind of program you play your homecoming game against. I would have rather made it New Hampshire the following week tell you the truth. Oh well.
Title: Re: 2019 Football Season
Post by: Campi47 on July 03, 2019, 03:35:06 pm
If any of you are around on July 20th SBU will be hosting their 7 on 7 with Teams coming from NY, NJ, CT at this time there could be as many as 30 HS Teams.

SBU has offered some 24 HS Players already for the 2020 Class already any many of them will be on campus with their current HS Team competing.
Title: Re: 2019 Football Season
Post by: Chairman of the Board on July 23, 2019, 08:15:12 pm
CAA poll: 6th https://bangordailynews.com/2019/07/23/sports/umaine-sports/defending-champion-umaine-picked-third-in-caa-football-preseason-poll/


FCS preseason polls-

hero: nothing https://herosports.com/fcs/football-2019-hero-sports-preseason-top-25-fcs-ajaj

athlon: teams to watch https://athlonsports.com/college-football/athlon-sports-preseason-fcs-top-25-2019

compughter: #23 https://www.compughterratings.com/2019-FCS-Preseason-College-Football-Rankings

massey: #25 https://www.masseyratings.com/cf/compare1aa.htm
Title: Re: 2019 Football Season
Post by: Chairman of the Board on July 25, 2019, 05:19:36 pm
https://stonybrookathletics.com/news/2019/7/25/together-we-transform-blog-together-we-transform-thursday-july-25-2019.aspx?path=blog

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When I look at the physical maturation of guys like Tyquell Fields, Keegan Henderson and Gavin Heslop (just to name three), it is easy to see that the hard work in the Dubin Family Athletic Performance Center is paying off.

The majority of our team has been on campus working out and taking classes throughout the summer. Our freshmen arrived for the second summer session, which started after the July 4 holiday, and have been getting acclimated to school and football. It is obvious that the recruiting efforts led by Coach Priore and Assistant Athletic Director for Player Personnel, Patrick Hatch, are paying huge dividends. We have also placed a heavy emphasis on recruiting talented local walk-ons, and we have some good ones who joined the team this summer.

Another observation is that our eight recruited transfers are really good. While I can't say for certain how many of them will start in the opener against Bryant, I do know that the coaches are thrilled with what they've seen thus far from the group.
Title: Re: 2019 Football Season
Post by: Campi47 on August 07, 2019, 06:37:22 am
August 8 is SBUís first scrimmage and I will be there and put up my observations tomorrow night
Title: Re: 2019 Football Season
Post by: Chairman of the Board on August 07, 2019, 08:52:07 pm
thanks.  USU will be a good test.  look at some of these teams they beat- https://utahstateaggies.com/schedule.aspx?schedule=89

note the home record too at maverick.

of course, past results are not necessarily indicators of future performance!
Title: Re: 2019 Football Season
Post by: Chairman of the Board on August 08, 2019, 05:10:12 pm
https://stonybrookathletics.com/news/2019/8/8/together-we-transform-blog-together-we-transform-thursday-august-8-2019.aspx?path=blog

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Here is what I do know: we are going to compete for the CAA title and will be in the Top 25. Offensively we will be very good. We have two quarterbacks in Tyquell Fields and Jack Cassidy who can win games for us. Our transfer receivers Brandon Benson and Jean Constant are legitimate talents. Running back, the position that the public sees as a question mark after the graduation of Jordan Gowins and Donald Liotine, features a new dynamic duo with Isaiah White and TySon Lawton. The line is stout and the tight end position is as deep as ever.
 
Defensively, we have two players that NFL scouts will be flocking to see in Gavin Heslop and Sam Kamara. Joining Sam up front is Casey Williams, who made an instant impact after transferring from Temple a season ago. The coaches have also been raving about graduate transfer Sean Hammonds Jr., who joins us from Ball State. At linebacker and in the secondary, we are fast and physical.
Title: Re: 2019 Football Season
Post by: Campi47 on August 08, 2019, 08:25:55 pm
I went to the 1st scrimmage today and in my opinion Fields and Cassidy are dead even at this time as Fields has the stronger arm however he still slings the ball while Cassidy comes over the top. Fields however is the better runner. My dark horse is Zamot as he looks like he has really improved. Overall assessment is that Fields will start and do very well outside of the CAA except against Utah State while he might struggle a little in the CAA games.
Title: Re: 2019 Football Season
Post by: Campi47 on August 08, 2019, 09:31:42 pm
Also today both Lawton and White looked  really good running the ball and White brings the ability of catching passes out of the backfield. In my opinion if they stay healthy the running game could be just as good as last year
Title: Re: 2019 Football Season
Post by: Seawolf97 on August 09, 2019, 05:01:59 pm
That doesnt bode well for our season if Fields is going to struggle against CAA teams . Winning a few OOC games is expected  losing to CAA teams is not .
Title: Re: 2019 Football Season
Post by: Campi47 on August 09, 2019, 06:20:48 pm
Fields is a really good Athlete however the CAA is full of really good Athletes and slinging the ball gives the defense more of a chance to bat down balls. What I can can see SBU doing is to have him rolling out a lot and passing
Title: Re: 2019 Football Season
Post by: Hammertime on August 10, 2019, 04:29:36 am
Fields is a really good Athlete however the CAA is full of really good Athletes and slinging the ball gives the defense more of a chance to bat down balls. What I can can see SBU doing is to have him rolling out a lot and passing

Conor Bednarski used to do the same thing.
Title: Re: 2019 Football Season
Post by: Chairman of the Board on August 19, 2019, 08:22:37 pm
anyone see the homecoming notice that says "new central location"?  what do we think that means?  i assume something like some of the pregame festivities are closer to the stadium.  i dunno.
Title: Re: 2019 Football Season
Post by: newfan on August 19, 2019, 08:44:19 pm
anyone see the homecoming notice that says "new central location"?  what do we think that means?  i assume something like some of the pregame festivities are closer to the stadium.  i dunno.

I thought when I clicked on the BBQ for details I saw reference to the LaValle lot...wonder if they have it in the center of the lot with Seawolves Town (or at least the parking for it) right next door
Title: Re: 2019 Football Season
Post by: Chairman of the Board on August 20, 2019, 09:34:09 pm
fields to start: https://stonybrookathletics.com/news/2019/8/20/football-priore-tabs-fields-as-starting-qb-for-the-seawolves.aspx

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"My feelings are that we can win with both guys, but I felt Tyquell seized the opportunity and really elevated his play over the off season and during preseason camp. His athleticism is a game changing element and he can make every throw in our offense. When given the opportunity Tyquell has performed well in games over the last two seasons and I'm excited to see him lead our offense in a full time role," Priore added.
Title: Re: 2019 Football Season
Post by: Campi47 on August 20, 2019, 09:46:42 pm
I have been to both scrimmages so and in my opinion and my opinion only Cassidy was more accurate than Fields. I know that Fields is the better athlete but he will probably throw more passes on rollouts because of the way he throws while Cassidy is better in the pocket. I think they both will play against Bryant and because of the way the redshirt rule works Zamot will play this year so that he gets game experience.
Title: Re: 2019 Football Season
Post by: VA_Seawolf on August 21, 2019, 02:52:02 am
I personally love that Fields is the starter. We've never had a true dual threat quarterback and Tyquell could bring that degree of excitement to a program that desperately needs it right now. I'm over the moon.
Title: Re: 2019 Football Season
Post by: Hammertime on August 21, 2019, 07:14:31 am
I have been to both scrimmages so and in my opinion and my opinion only Cassidy was more accurate than Fields. I know that Fields is the better athlete but he will probably throw more passes on rollouts because of the way he throws while Cassidy is better in the pocket. I think they both will play against Bryant and because of the way the redshirt rule works Zamot will play this year so that he gets game experience.

I heard the same thing about Cassidy. Personally, Fields has the same attributes as Joe Carbone. So if you loved Carbone, you just got him back for another 2 years. I think Cassidy would have been the better QB because of his ability to throw in the pocket and his accuracy. But what do I know anyways?
Title: Re: 2019 Football Season
Post by: Wolffan on August 21, 2019, 02:04:17 pm
I have been to both scrimmages so and in my opinion and my opinion only Cassidy was more accurate than Fields. I know that Fields is the better athlete but he will probably throw more passes on rollouts because of the way he throws while Cassidy is better in the pocket. I think they both will play against Bryant and because of the way the redshirt rule works Zamot will play this year so that he gets game experience.

I heard the same thing about Cassidy. Personally, Fields has the same attributes as Joe Carbone. So if you loved Carbone, you just got him back for another 2 years. I think Cassidy would have been the better QB because of his ability to throw in the pocket and his accuracy. But what do I know anyways?

I don't know. I think Carbone was very slow-footed last year. There were times when he could have bailed us out with better legs but he just could not do it. If Fields can throw like Carbone (adequate for our offense IMHO) and has pretty quick wheels I see that as an upgrade. (I would much better have a gunner who can also run like the Towson QB or last year's UNH QB but I don't think we have that on the squad.)
Title: Re: 2019 Football Season
Post by: Chairman of the Board on August 25, 2019, 06:36:10 pm
i dont think it matters what snoozeday does these days... they can never make up for the malfeasance/nonfeasance.  but there is this: https://twitter.com/ShawnHeilbron/status/1165642347423703040
Title: Re: 2019 Football Season
Post by: Triple Lindy on August 26, 2019, 01:54:26 pm
i dont think it matters what snoozeday does these days... they can never make up for the malfeasance/nonfeasance.  but there is this: https://twitter.com/ShawnHeilbron/status/1165642347423703040
I saw that as well. The fact that our AD gives Newsday a pat on the shoulder for finally doing its job and adequately covering SB football is a joke. Shame on Newsday.  I donít understand what appears to be a blatant disregard for local college sports (especially Stony Brook).  The only reason I still open that newspaper is for Stanley Newmanís crossword puzzles.
Title: Re: 2019 Football Season
Post by: Seawolf97 on August 26, 2019, 04:11:04 pm
It was a great article . It seems Newsday and Channel 12  seem to lean more toward the high school sports.   Channel 12 did cover basketball leading up to their European trip with  two different broadcasts.  We shall what happens as the season  progresses .
Title: Re: 2019 Football Season
Post by: Green Baron on September 17, 2019, 10:59:24 pm
Towson RB Shane Simpson tears his ACL, out for the season
Title: Re: 2019 Football Season
Post by: Hammertime on October 31, 2019, 11:35:49 am
Do we know if kamara is ready to play this week? He is desperately needed to clog that middle hole in the D line.
Title: Re: 2019 Football Season
Post by: Hammertime on November 05, 2019, 07:11:33 am
How many former SB players are on active NFL rosters? And how many have been drafted. I think I know the answer, 0. If I am wrong please correct me.

I brought this us because I see a ton of players from all CAA schools that are currently playing in the NFL, not just practice squad players, on active rosters.

Coach P has all the tools and resources to do they same thing except for one, the know how. He doesnt have what it takes to recruit or take a good athlete and turn him into a great athlete with NFL aspirations. Just saying.

Todays little tid bit for the day...

Title: Re: 2019 Football Season
Post by: ry1nik on November 05, 2019, 07:29:10 am
How many former SB players are on active NFL rosters? And how many have been drafted. I think I know the answer, 0. If I am wrong please correct me.

I brought this us because I see a ton of players from all CAA schools that are currently playing in the NFL, not just practice squad players, on active rosters.

Coach P has all the tools and resources to do they same thing except for one, the know how. He doesnt have what it takes to recruit or take a good athlete and turn him into a great athlete with NFL aspirations. Just saying.

Todays little tid bit for the day...
That's a valid point. There are 157 FCS players active on NFL rosters. It's noteworthy that even mighty Wagner College has two.

https://www.ncaa.com/news/football/article/2019-09-07/2019-nfl-rosters-fcs-players-league
Title: Re: 2019 Football Season
Post by: Campi47 on November 05, 2019, 09:43:18 am
Many of those 157 players were transfers from FBS schools so its not like they they went to a FCS program first and SBU over the last 4 years have had all 32 NFL teams on campus to see their players. Of the two Wagner players one went there to play Basketball and eventually found his way to the football team. SBU has had players in NFL Camps every year and for different reasons such as injuries they didnít make it. There are still two players on practice squads and at some point hopefully they will be on the active roster.

In my opinion if we make it to the FCS playoffs for a third straight year is more important then how many players we have in the NFL. Also SBU has a great graduation rate compared to many FCS programs after all isnít SBU is a top research university not an NFL hotbed.

Sometimes we look for negativity rather then all the positive things
Title: Re: 2019 Football Season
Post by: VA_Seawolf on November 05, 2019, 11:05:21 am
I recall Timon Parris playing for the Redskins and getting playing time. I believe he's still on the roster correct me if I'm wrong, but other than him we don't have anybody else in the league at the moment.
Title: Re: 2019 Football Season
Post by: Hammertime on November 05, 2019, 11:09:26 am
I recall Timon Parris playing for the Redskins and getting playing time. I believe he's still on the roster correct me if I'm wrong, but other than him we don't have anybody else in the league at the moment.

I believe that is right. Parris was /is on the Redskins PS. I dont think all the other SB invites stuck around to make any NFL team PS..
Title: Re: 2019 Football Season
Post by: Campi47 on November 05, 2019, 12:06:33 pm
Chris Cooper Atlanta
Title: Re: 2019 Football Season
Post by: Hammertime on November 10, 2019, 06:41:07 am
I'm glad the majority of this Form finally sees what i have been saying for quite a while. Coach P  is not a good coach and should not be the head coach for SB anymore. He was good when we were Div 2 and 3, but he does not have the tangibles to be a good HC for a Div 1 coach in the CAA or any other stronger FCS conference. I think he can be okay in the Patriot league or the North East conference, but that's all.

SH made a big mistake extending coach P contract for another 3 years. We are stuck with him. like Campi alluded to, Coach P not going anywhere for a few more years at least, and he knows it!!
Title: Re: 2019 Football Season
Post by: ry1nik on November 10, 2019, 07:28:54 am
The AD misjudged Priore with the contract extension. This program has achieved its ceiling under the current regime. Barring making it at least to the national semifinals (HIGHLY unlikely), I expect Priore to go the way of Nagle at the end of his contract.
Title: Re: 2019 Football Season
Post by: Tml on November 10, 2019, 07:34:04 am
Tye was the only player to have any success.  He had 94 NFL catches in his brief career.
Title: Re: 2019 Football Season
Post by: Footballfan4life on November 10, 2019, 10:37:27 pm
Get rid of these pop warner coaches at sbu this is ridiculous
Title: Re: 2019 Football Season
Post by: Green Baron on November 11, 2019, 01:36:37 am
Screw the end of the contract. We donít have time to wait that long. Priore needs to go after this season. Missing the playoffs after two straight years, AFTER GETTING RID OF A MEDIOCRE QUARTERBACK, should be a fireable offense.
Title: Re: 2019 Football Season
Post by: Hammertime on November 11, 2019, 05:43:31 am
Im guessing Sam Kamara did not play again on Saturday? Do we have an injury update, assuming that is what it is.
Title: Re: 2019 Football Season
Post by: Hammertime on November 11, 2019, 05:47:43 am
Screw the end of the contract. We donít have time to wait that long. Priore needs to go after this season. Missing the playoffs after two straight years, AFTER GETTING RID OF A MEDIOCRE QUARTERBACK, should be a fireable offense.

Who's going to come up with the Half a million Dollars+++, to pay out his existing contract? SH made a booboo extending coach P contract and the University and fans are stuck with him for 2 more years after this season is over. Grin and bear it! I dont see SH giving coach P a new contract after this one expires..
Title: Re: 2019 Football Season
Post by: Campi47 on November 11, 2019, 06:57:24 am
Actually I think the contract runs through the 2022 season.

As far as assistant coaches go each one has different lengths in terms of years

Title: Re: 2019 Football Season
Post by: Hammertime on November 11, 2019, 07:54:09 am
Actually I think the contract runs through the 2022 season.

As far as assistant coaches go each one has different lengths in terms of years

Thats possible. I thought his contract was extended for 3 more years, but he might have had another year left with his old contract. regardless, he's not going anywhere for a very long time. A total mistake by Shawn Heilbron. He should have never given P a long term extension. Year to year is all they should get. Win your conference or go deep into the Playoffs, then yes, lock him in..
Title: Re: 2019 Football Season
Post by: Chairman of the Board on November 11, 2019, 08:01:20 am
well let's see what happens.  maybe he surprises us next year.  or the subsequent years.  he's done it before.
Title: Re: 2019 Football Season
Post by: Green Baron on November 11, 2019, 01:28:45 pm
As far as I know, it wasnít Shawnís decision.

Prioreís contract is a sunk cost anyways. Just cut your losses now and do the right thing for the program.
Title: Re: 2019 Football Season
Post by: Hammertime on November 11, 2019, 02:22:05 pm
As far as I know, it wasnít Shawnís decision.

Prioreís contract is a sunk cost anyways. Just cut your losses now and do the right thing for the program.

I'm not so sure about that. The AD has the final say when it comes to firing in Athletics
Title: Re: 2019 Football Season
Post by: Green Baron on November 11, 2019, 02:28:05 pm
As far as I know, it wasnít Shawnís decision.

Prioreís contract is a sunk cost anyways. Just cut your losses now and do the right thing for the program.

I'm not so sure about that. The AD has the final say when it comes to firing in Athletics

Which is why I hope he has the power to can Prioreís ass after this year.

Heilbron was pressured to extend Priore by Stanley, who promptly bailed on us a year later, at least thatís what Iíve heard.
Title: Re: 2019 Football Season
Post by: ry1nik on November 11, 2019, 06:01:00 pm
If Heilbron was pressured by Stanley (which I have doubts about), thatís a red mark against Stanley. Basic Management 101 teaches that you donít take the hiring/firing decisions from a supposedly senior and trusted member of your leadership team (Heilbron), unless you have serious questions about his/her judgment.
Title: Re: 2019 Football Season
Post by: Hammertime on November 11, 2019, 06:07:40 pm
As far as I know, it wasnít Shawnís decision.

Prioreís contract is a sunk cost anyways. Just cut your losses now and do the right thing for the program.

I'm not so sure about that. The AD has the final say when it comes to firing in Athletics


Which is why I hope he has the power to can Prioreís ass after this year.

Heilbron was pressured to extend Priore by Stanley, who promptly bailed on us a year later, at least thatís what Iíve heard.

The problem now is money. Where is SH going to find approx 1 million dollars to buy out his remaining contract. He's not. SB doesn't have that type od booster to lay out dough like that. Heck!! SB doesn't even have any Alumn on an NFL who can afford to chip in!!!
Title: Re: 2019 Football Season
Post by: VA_Seawolf on November 11, 2019, 07:14:18 pm
well let's see what happens.  maybe he surprises us next year.  or the subsequent years.  he's done it before.

Oh he'll surprise us alright! Surprise us by losing the annual cupcake game against Bryant/Wagner/Fordham/Sacred Heart/CCSU/LIU. Speaking of LIU, we have actual competition on LI now with LIU moving to D1 through the campus merger. We can't afford to slip up too badly else they'll surpass us. The thought of that sounds absolutely ridiculous, but if Priore stays at the helm for an extended period of time....

I will give Coach P credit for getting talent into the program. This program has the talent to win the CAA and go on a deep playoff run. Priore just doesn't know how to harness that talent.

And speaking of talent, what the hell happened to Kamara? He's been out for over a month with no update on why. 
Title: Re: 2019 Football Season
Post by: Campi47 on November 11, 2019, 08:07:24 pm
Even when LIU was dominating in DII their attendance was not that good and to make it worse thereís a ordinance preventing them from putting up lights. One more thing the NEC gives out a lot less scholarships than the CAA

Title: Re: 2019 Football Season
Post by: Tml on November 11, 2019, 09:53:24 pm
Maybe Priore just needs a better DC and OC.
Title: Re: 2019 Football Season
Post by: Hammertime on November 12, 2019, 05:53:11 am
well let's see what happens.  maybe he surprises us next year.  or the subsequent years.  he's done it before.

Oh he'll surprise us alright! Surprise us by losing the annual cupcake game against Bryant/Wagner/Fordham/Sacred Heart/CCSU/LIU. Speaking of LIU, we have actual competition on LI now with LIU moving to D1 through the campus merger. We can't afford to slip up too badly else they'll surpass us. The thought of that sounds absolutely ridiculous, but if Priore stays at the helm for an extended period of time....

I will give Coach P credit for getting talent into the program. This program has the talent to win the CAA and go on a deep playoff run. Priore just doesn't know how to harness that talent.

And speaking of talent, what the hell happened to Kamara? He's been out for over a month with no update on why.

My guess, and only a guess is Kamara stays out for the last two games and puts in for a medical redshirt. That makes sense considering this season is lost, but it's always a gamble getting approval for medical red shirt with the NCAA..
Title: Re: 2019 Football Season
Post by: Campi47 on November 12, 2019, 08:38:45 pm
Most people who comment on this site would love to see Coach P and his staff fired for one reason or another so letís say we ask the players what they think about the following; has Coach P and his staff prepared you to play each game every week, if you had the opportunity knowing what you know now would you still come to SBU and play for Coach P, in your opinion what do think of the offense and defense play calling, as a student how can we get your fellow students to come to a home game, how much in your opinion has all the injuries played with the season on the brink of not making the playoffs.
Title: Re: 2019 Football Season
Post by: ry1nik on November 12, 2019, 09:37:24 pm
Most people who comment on this site would love to see Coach P and his staff fired for one reason or another so letís say we ask the players what they think about the following; has Coach P and his staff prepared you to play each game every week, if you had the opportunity knowing what you know now would you still come to SBU and play for Coach P, in your opinion what do think of the offense and defense play calling, as a student how can we get your fellow students to come to a home game, how much in your opinion has all the injuries played with the season on the brink of not making the playoffs.
The reality is that if Coach P had the ability to take this program to the elite level of FCS footballówhich fans are right to expect for a high profile university like SBUóit would have happened by now. Itís become clear we have seen the best he can do for this program. Itís time to aim higher.
Title: Re: 2019 Football Season
Post by: Green Baron on November 13, 2019, 04:10:15 am
I could forgive the 2012-16 failures because they had to adjust to the CAA after playing in a cupcake conference. But now? He canít use that excuse anymore. Weíve seen the potential of this program after he went 10-3 in 2017. Therefore, itís inexcusable for the team to disappoint this much in 2019 when we should be continuing to improve our stock as an FCS powerhouse. As far as recruiting, itís telling how many players of his have reached the NFL.
Title: Re: 2019 Football Season
Post by: Hammertime on November 13, 2019, 06:57:54 am
I could forgive the 2012-16 failures because they had to adjust to the CAA after playing in a cupcake conference. But now? He canít use that excuse anymore. Weíve seen the potential of this program after he went 10-3 in 2017. Therefore, itís inexcusable for the team to disappoint this much in 2019 when we should be continuing to improve our stock as an FCS powerhouse. As far as recruiting, itís telling how many players of his have reached the NFL.

Exactly. I keep hearing how coach P  is a great recruiter. Well, not really! The proof is in the pudding. How many kids were drafted from SB, ZERO? And that wont change.  Really good athletes will shun away from SB and go elsewhere.

Title: Re: 2019 Football Season
Post by: Campi47 on January 09, 2020, 09:38:28 am
I just read on Twitter that the only team to gain 100 yards rushing or more against JMU in 2019 was SBU

Title: Re: 2019 Football Season
Post by: VA_Seawolf on January 09, 2020, 12:40:42 pm
I just read on Twitter that the only team to gain 100 yards rushing or more against JMU in 2019 was SBU

We were their closest game of the season other than their loss to WVU. So we've got that feather in our cap I guess.

SBU tends to play quite well against good opponents, JMU in particular, but against other teams in the CAA we just can't get it done.
Title: Re: 2019 Football Season
Post by: Campi47 on January 09, 2020, 12:57:53 pm
Other then the Richmond game all the other CAA scores were very close so I would disagree with you that we didnít play well especially with all of the injuries we had in 2019.

Iím going to make a prediction right now that SBU goes 8-3 next year or better and wins a playoff game
Title: Re: 2019 Football Season
Post by: Chairman of the Board on January 11, 2020, 09:46:31 pm
purely for discussion purposes- JMU loses a close one to NDSU.  buffalo goes 8-5 and blows up charlotte in the bahamas bowl 31-9.  USU loses to kent state 51-41 in the frisco bowl.