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Title: Game 17: vs. Binghamton 1/9 7pm
Post by: Checkmate on January 07, 2019, 10:38:25 pm
BINGHAMTON
Record:
5-11 (1-0 America East)
Last 10: 3-7
Last Game: Binghamton 69, New Hampshire 58 on 1/5/19
Last Game with SBU: Binghamton 69, Stony Brook 57 on 2/8/18; Yeboah team-high 18; team shot 34% from the field
Checkmate Unofficial Line: Stony Brook -11.5
Net Ranking: Stony Brook 147, Binghamton 331
KenPom RPI: Stony Brook 145, Binghamton 329
KenPom Prediction: Stony Brook 74, Binghamton 60
Yeboah Point Watch: 1,062
Division I: Currently 7th. Next up: Dave Coley (2010-14) 1,222
All-time: Currently 19th. Next up: Dave Burda (1983-86) 1,100
Listen/Watch:
TV: http://bit.ly/MBBGm17Vid (ESPN3)
Stony Brook radio: http://bit.ly/WUSBSports
Notables:
6-0/190 fr G Sam Sessoms 17.7 ppg, 3.6 rpg, 3.6 apg, .458 FG%, .345 3-pt FG%
6-3/205 gs G JC Show 10.6 ppg, 4.0 rpg, .347 3-pt FG%
6-4/200 gs G Chancellor Barnard 9.3 ppg, 6.8 rpg, 1.7 bpg, .706 FG%
6-9/200 sr F Caleb Stewart 8.9 ppg, 6.3 rpg, 2.3 bpg, .387 3-pt FG%

The results and the eye test suggest that we are entering a three-game stretch – or perhaps a four-game stretch with UA being so bad – in which we should take care of business. It starts with a home date with Binghamton, which has an absymal record but could very well be playing its best basketball right now.

Right now, everything starts and ends with the kid Sessoms, who has to be the odds-on favorite to win conference Rookie of the Year, even as good as Latimer's been (Albany's Cam Healy also in the mix). His story's a good one (read it here: http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/philly-hoops/sam-sessoms-shipley-school-philly-hoops-division-i-scholarship-offer-20170713.html). He waited and waited and waited before getting and taking took the only Division I offer he received despite a dynamic high school career outside Philly. All the kid's done is make a ton of noise in his freshman season – 27 in his college debut, five more games in the 20s, and he's breathed life into a dormant program. I wouldn't say the kid's a bowling ball, but he's not flimsy either – as you'll read in the story, West Philly kid with a Samoan mother, so he's tough. I watched some of the Bingo/UNH game after our game ended, and it seems he's eager to get moving downhill toward the rim to score or distribute. He also has the ability to score from the perimeter – note the seven threes in a loss at the buzzer to Columbia. Defensively, between his size and interest, I view him as a liability, but he's at BU to get the ball to go in the hoop, directly or indirectly, so I think Tommy Dempsey's fine with the tradeoff.

I wonder what we do here defensively. I suspect we'll put the longer, more athletic Olaniyi on him, much like what we did against AJ Green at Northern Iowa.

The other huge addition in the offseason with Barnard, who transferred in after completing his degree at Loyola (MD). If your memory's better than mine, you'll know that Barnard dropped 16 on us at IFCU two years ago, helping the Greyhounds to a 71-70 victory at the buzzer. He's been forced to play the post – even the 5 – for a team that needed something inside. They've gone all year without their big man, Thomas Bruce, who's been out all year with a concussion, and all but five games without another 4/5 type, Tyler Stewart.

It's good because this team was going nowhere with Show as its top offensive weapon. With Sessoms here, though, Show is serviceable as his wingman, not to mention a veteran influence. Another vet, Caleb Stewart, doubles as a presence defensively in the paint, and a spot-up shooter on the offensive end. What I saw in the UNH game was Sessoms creating up top, shooters in the corners, not a lot of movement, and not much on the offensive glass.

Defensively, we should see their traditional 2-3 zone, which is allowing teams to shoot nearly 38 percent against from three. In years past, I may have worried about how well we'd shoot over it, but with Yeboah, Latimer, Garcia, etc, I like our chances more. Stewart (2nd in conference) and Barnard (4th) aren't afraid to challenge incoming dribblers. For the record, UVM's Lamb and our own Jeff Otchere are first and third respectively.

Back to what I said before though – BU's been hanging in there of late. In the last five games, listen to this. Of course, the UNH win is a nice start to their conference schedule. Before that, they were right there with Notre Dame and Michigan for a half, and otherwise, a narrow win at LIU Brooklyn and a loss at the buzzer to Columbia. Hey, for a program that's looking far and wide for positives, that's not bad.

After this one, per KenPom, we're looking at teams ranked 343, 336 and 282 leading up to Vermont game here on the island. Did you have us at 17 and freakin 3?
Title: Re: Game 17: vs. Binghamton 1/9 7pm
Post by: steveoh on January 08, 2019, 01:50:30 pm
I'd love for us to bury a bad team early and get it over with. I can't take these close games where we gradually pull away, even if it seems to be working.

That being said, I'm really loving this season and this team.

Title: Re: Game 17: vs. Binghamton 1/9 7pm
Post by: VA_Seawolf on January 08, 2019, 03:44:57 pm
I'd love for us to bury a bad team early and get it over with. I can't take these close games where we gradually pull away, even if it seems to be working.

That being said, I'm really loving this season and this team.

I'm with you here. It's like we're playing up or down to the competition, which is fine as long as it continues to work. I'd love to just bury some of the teams in the AE though, especially Albany when that game comes around.
Title: Re: Game 17: vs. Binghamton 1/9 7pm
Post by: Checkmate on January 09, 2019, 07:40:35 am
Vegas has us as a 16.5 point favorite. I’m too cautious with my lines.


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Title: Re: Game 17: vs. Binghamton 1/9 7pm
Post by: Checkmate on January 09, 2019, 01:51:09 pm
Vegas has us as a 16.5 point favorite. I’m too cautious with my lines.


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The line shot down to 13 in a few places, so maybe I'm not crazy. I like that we're at least being listed.

I like us minus the 13. I just don't see how they rebound with us, and I think we can limit Sessoms with our athletes.
Title: Re: Game 17: vs. Binghamton 1/9 7pm
Post by: VA_Seawolf on January 09, 2019, 04:12:08 pm
13?? How about we bury them by 20? We'll be at home and they're another SUNY school. It's been a long time since we buried another school like that, especially a D1 school.
Title: Re: Game 17: vs. Binghamton 1/9 7pm
Post by: steveoh on January 09, 2019, 05:13:26 pm
Funny. That's the second time this season that the line suddenly shot down (Hofstra was the other).

Someone is putting money on Stony Brook. We're 11-3 against the spread (or something like that).
Title: Re: Game 17: vs. Binghamton 1/9 7pm
Post by: VA_Seawolf on January 09, 2019, 07:20:05 pm
Ugly game so far. Nobody can really make a basket. Nice to see all of our backups being able to compete with their starters though. I suspect Moor will step up tonight as nobody seems to be able to make a basket so far tonight.
Title: Re: Game 17: vs. Binghamton 1/9 7pm
Post by: Wolffan on January 09, 2019, 07:51:02 pm
Impressive half for Otcherie. 4 or 5 blocks and 5 points (including a very nice dunk!). Taking advantage of his height v Binghamton.
Title: Re: Game 17: vs. Binghamton 1/9 7pm
Post by: Green Baron on January 09, 2019, 07:52:54 pm
That start was baaaaaaaad... luckily, they ended strong to lead by 12 at half.
Title: Re: Game 17: vs. Binghamton 1/9 7pm
Post by: VA_Seawolf on January 09, 2019, 07:55:49 pm
Otchere is absolutely bonkers. Thank GOD we have him. Beast! That block where they called a foul on him though was BS. That was clean.
Title: Re: Game 17: vs. Binghamton 1/9 7pm
Post by: OldSeawolf on January 09, 2019, 08:18:08 pm
Not impressed with Sessom at all. He’s certainly intimidated by our size.
Title: Re: Game 17: vs. Binghamton 1/9 7pm
Post by: VA_Seawolf on January 09, 2019, 08:29:48 pm
They went on a huge rally, then we responded with one of our own. Great!!

I also really like our offense when we've got both Yeboah and Garcia on the floor.
Title: Re: Game 17: vs. Binghamton 1/9 7pm
Post by: OldSeawolf on January 09, 2019, 08:46:25 pm
How about Big Jeff tonight????
Title: Re: Game 17: vs. Binghamton 1/9 7pm
Post by: OldSeawolf on January 09, 2019, 08:49:28 pm
Where’s Chef tonight?
Title: Re: Game 17: vs. Binghamton 1/9 7pm
Post by: Wolffan on January 09, 2019, 09:06:28 pm
McKenzie played point almost the entire game and was solid (not spectacular but not overwhelmed either)  thoughout. Cornish was either hurt or mostly stuck on the bench.

Moor and Latimer are already above average AE players, IMHO.
Title: Re: Game 17: vs. Binghamton 1/9 7pm
Post by: VA_Seawolf on January 09, 2019, 09:09:54 pm
A win is a win at the end of the night. Those turnovers were ugly, and that run to start the second half from Bing made it feel like Coach P was coaching the team, but the way we responded to that was beautiful. Moor had a great game and is continuing to improve.

Also, how about BIG JEFF?! 7 blocks? Nuts. He was already top 5 nationally in blocks, tonight only adds to that. The fact Boals was able to find him, and develop him into a shot blocking monster is a testament to his recruiting and coaching ability. Go SB!!
Title: Re: Game 17: vs. Binghamton 1/9 7pm
Post by: OldSeawolf on January 09, 2019, 09:16:46 pm
Cornish with 4 TO’s in limited minutes resulted in Boals’ benching of him, I believe. Latimer/Moor both outstanding freshman. And Big Jeff progressing nicely-the key for him is being able to stay on the floor. 7 blocks (but should have been 8; he got roped off on one in 1st half).

Overall, somewhat of an uninspiring win tonight, but again, got the job done.
Title: Re: Game 17: vs. Binghamton 1/9 7pm
Post by: Checkmate on January 09, 2019, 09:48:07 pm
Cornish with 4 TO’s in limited minutes resulted in Boals’ benching of him, I believe. Latimer/Moor both outstanding freshman. And Big Jeff progressing nicely-the key for him is being able to stay on the floor. 7 blocks (but should have been 8; he got roped off on one in 1st half).

Overall, somewhat of an uninspiring win tonight, but again, got the job done.

That first foul was a total joke, and the second one wasn't much better. A real nice night for him. Sessoms had no chance to finish near the hoop, and I think he was totally dejected with the way we defended him. 5 for 23 is unsightly. His season numbers are nice to look at, but it seems to me he's only interested in the game if he has the ball in his hands – no movement without the ball, no energy on defense.

Any bettors had to be sick when Akwasi lost the ball out of bounds at the end.

Curiously no Chef. I was oblivious to it throughout the game and it wasn't mentioned in the postgame. His absence only accentuates Jeff's big night. Man, when he stays on the floor, he is a force whether he's blocking shots or not. He really allows our perimeter guys to challenge shots.

The 25 turnovers is ghastly, but I'll chalk it up as a one-off. Binghamton's D has given us fits before.

I thought Cornish had handled pressure well this season – far better than last year – but this was one of those games that really emphasized ballhandling and decision making against the zone/press. Like I said, I thought he'd done a nice job in all facets to this point in the season.
Title: Re: Game 17: vs. Binghamton 1/9 7pm
Post by: Seawolf97 on January 09, 2019, 10:02:24 pm
Love our big guys . Alex with a quick  4 points and Jeff  really beginning to be an intimidating force .  Our turnovers were a disaster but we survived  thank heaven it was Binghamton . Our team continues to improve.
Title: Re: Game 17: vs. Binghamton 1/9 7pm
Post by: Chairman of the Board on January 09, 2019, 11:52:28 pm
almost 2700 fans during break?  against blah binghamton?  ill take it.

kwas with 13 boards.  we didnt look good but got a lot players on the floor. 

PS- ladies 13-3 (2-0)
Title: Re: Game 17: vs. Binghamton 1/9 7pm
Post by: VA_Seawolf on January 10, 2019, 01:45:35 am
almost 2700 fans during break?  against blah binghamton?  ill take it.

kwas with 13 boards.  we didnt look good but got a lot players on the floor. 

PS- ladies 13-3 (2-0)

Everything is winning!! I didn't know the ladies were that good until I checked it myself. Great time to be a Seawolf. 2700 is a good turnout given the circumstances. I expect a packed house once Vermont comes to town.
Title: Re: Game 17: vs. Binghamton 1/9 7pm
Post by: laxnation on January 10, 2019, 04:53:35 am
Alex Christie - hopefully he is not on on the roster next season.  It should be no problem upgrading at this spot - can’t waste a scholarship on him.

2,700 - free tickets up to 4 tickets for alumni, which was sponsored by a car dealership on the Island.

Moor definitely needs to see more playing time!
Title: Re: Game 17: vs. Binghamton 1/9 7pm
Post by: ThegreatK on January 10, 2019, 05:30:48 am
Sloppy game but a win is a win.
I'm very concerned with our turnovers as conference play goes on. Especially the "live ball" turnovers.
We defended in the half court very well though and held them to an extremely low conversion rate. Wasn't all Big Jeff. I love how Olaniyi can sit in a stance and guard 5'9 guards but also can body up a 6'7 forward or slide his feet with an electric wing(Michigan State game). Man he's a stud on that side of the ball. Jules Moor needs more playing time is a tier below Olaniyi defensively.
Im happy big Jeff is getting the hang of his foul trouble. Binghamton started second guessing themselves every drive after that block in Little Sammy where we ICED the ball screen. Jeff took a Horrible angle and Sammy just changed directions to easily get into the lane, he thought he had a lay up (So did I) and Jeff recovers and swats it. That block there changed how they attacked. That is the Otchere Jeff Boals envisioned and why all those Universities wanted him.
How about 29 big minutes from McKenzie. Only turning the ball over 1 time. Compared to Cornish's 4 TO's in half the amount of time. I know the forum has been critical of him but I think the brakes need to be pumped just a little. And I think we all should appreciate him more.He's a steady hand during the storm at times. That 50 foot pass to Moor for the dunk is as good of a pass as you'll see in all levels of basketball. You can't practice that type of feed any better.
As a person who works with HS, College and Pro players for a living I learn to appreciate guys like McKenzie a great deal. Guys like him keep your locker room happy because they give the rock up to teammates very often, are technically sound and don't play outside of themselves. McKenzie almost always fakes a pass,before he makes a pass when he's under pressure. That's Textbook fundamentals. Some of the High major guys I work with still can't grasp that concept. When McKenzie plays within himself and does what he does, I'll take him any day.
Title: Re: Game 17: vs. Binghamton 1/9 7pm
Post by: VA_Seawolf on January 10, 2019, 09:34:50 am
Agreed on McKenzie, he's a great ball handler who can take care of the ball in the face of immense pressure, he has his role on this team for sure, though I don't think he can be the leader from the point guard position he needs to be if he wants to start in that role next year. I'd look to the transfer market for that next year. The transfer route has worked well for us heading into this year for sure.

Also, why no Ochefu last night? Figured I'd see him some.

Alex Christie - hopefully he is not on on the roster next season.  It should be no problem upgrading at this spot - can’t waste a scholarship on him.

2,700 - free tickets up to 4 tickets for alumni, which was sponsored by a car dealership on the Island.

Moor definitely needs to see more playing time!

Christie has a ways to go yes, but to be saying this about him this early? Not sure that's warranted. Get him some more minutes in the next couple games against bad competition and see if he plays better.
Title: Re: Game 17: vs. Binghamton 1/9 7pm
Post by: OldSeawolf on January 10, 2019, 09:53:44 am
Christie is young and slow afoot, but what an outstanding move to his left last night (he is right-handed, I believe).  He is certainly a longer-term project, but remember Petras who was raw as heck as a freshman, and turned out to be quite serviceable by his senior year.  I think there is definitely some upside to his game, and he currently provides some nice depth when Otchere and Chef get into foul trouble.
Title: Re: Game 17: vs. Binghamton 1/9 7pm
Post by: sbufan on January 10, 2019, 10:20:39 am
Christie is young and slow afoot, but what an outstanding move to his left last night (he is right-handed, I believe).  He is certainly a longer-term project, but remember Petras who was raw as heck as a freshman, and turned out to be quite serviceable by his senior year.  I think there is definitely some upside to his game, and he currently provides some nice depth when Otchere and Chef get into foul trouble.

Yeah agreed. He's a 7 footer playing in the America East. We knew he was going to be a project. I think the expectation for all true big men ( I'll say 6' 8" or taller) at this level should be to hope they can develop into significant contributors by the time they are juniors.
Title: Re: Game 17: vs. Binghamton 1/9 7pm
Post by: OldSeawolf on January 10, 2019, 10:22:11 am
Sloppy game but a win is a win.
I'm very concerned with our turnovers as conference play goes on. Especially the "live ball" turnovers.
We defended in the half court very well though and held them to an extremely low conversion rate. Wasn't all Big Jeff. I love how Olaniyi can sit in a stance and guard 5'9 guards but also can body up a 6'7 forward or slide his feet with an electric wing(Michigan State game). Man he's a stud on that side of the ball. Jules Moor needs more playing time is a tier below Olaniyi defensively.
Im happy big Jeff is getting the hang of his foul trouble. Binghamton started second guessing themselves every drive after that block in Little Sammy where we ICED the ball screen. Jeff took a Horrible angle and Sammy just changed directions to easily get into the lane, he thought he had a lay up (So did I) and Jeff recovers and swats it. That block there changed how they attacked. That is the Otchere Jeff Boals envisioned and why all those Universities wanted him.
How about 29 big minutes from McKenzie. Only turning the ball over 1 time. Compared to Cornish's 4 TO's in half the amount of time. I know the forum has been critical of him but I think the brakes need to be pumped just a little. And I think we all should appreciate him more.He's a steady hand during the storm at times. That 50 foot pass to Moor for the dunk is as good of a pass as you'll see in all levels of basketball. You can't practice that type of feed any better.
As a person who works with HS, College and Pro players for a living I learn to appreciate guys like McKenzie a great deal. Guys like him keep your locker room happy because they give the rock up to teammates very often, are technically sound and don't play outside of themselves. McKenzie almost always fakes a pass,before he makes a pass when he's under pressure. That's Textbook fundamentals. Some of the High major guys I work with still can't grasp that concept. When McKenzie plays within himself and does what he does, I'll take him any day.

All great points.  Still think McKenzie picks up his dribble way too early at times, particularly when under pressure.  I'd like to see him keep the dribble alive longer, and pass off the dribble consistently.  He's obviously earning more playing time with Coach Boals, and quite frankly, I love to see a coach pull someone off the floor, when they are not doing what they are supposed to be doing.
Title: Re: Game 17: vs. Binghamton 1/9 7pm
Post by: sbufan on January 10, 2019, 10:22:16 am
It's going to be so much fun to watch Otchere over the next couple of years. This may be bold, but I'll say it: he's going to play in the NBA.
Title: Re: Game 17: vs. Binghamton 1/9 7pm
Post by: ThegreatK on January 10, 2019, 11:02:15 am
Christie is a nice piece and he'd be playing a lot more under any other circumstances. The lefty jump hooks are legit by him. He's got a righty hook as well, and can carve out space on the glass.
No he isn't a rim protector nor can he step out and guard the perimeter but being that large gives you the ability to deter penetrators in this league. With further development, he'll be a load. Not just serviceable but load. Junior and Senior year Watch out for him. 
Title: Re: Game 17: vs. Binghamton 1/9 7pm
Post by: ThegreatK on January 10, 2019, 11:18:24 am
With Pick and Roll Coverage and Rim protection being emphasized so much in today's game. He'll have a shot. There are only two kinds of 5 men in today's game primarily, the rim protector who can guard on the perimeter and the shooting/floor spacing 5 man. Either you're Clint Capela/Jarrett Allen or you're Kristaps/Karl Towns. Boals thinks big Jeff will play in the NBA as well. He's actually compared him to Capela during the recruiting process.
Otchere has to continue to get better and work at the rate that he's been working behind the scenes and on the scene. Everything else will take care of itself.
Title: Re: Game 17: vs. Binghamton 1/9 7pm
Post by: laxnation on January 10, 2019, 12:39:26 pm
Christie is a nice piece and he'd be playing a lot more under any other circumstances. The lefty jump hooks are legit by him. He's got a righty hook as well, and can carve out space on the glass.
No he isn't a rim protector nor can he step out and guard the perimeter but being that large gives you the ability to deter penetrators in this league. With further development, he'll be a load. Not just serviceable but load. Junior and Senior year Watch out for him.
I guess there’s a shortage of 7 footers with no athleticism.  Last night, he had his shot blocked on an attempted layup - Christie’s feet never left the floor.  He can be on the team next season without a scholarship or bye-bye.  Our expectations need to be higher for this team in a horrible conference.  I don’t want to waste any scholarship on the hopes of any kid being mediocre by his senior season.
Title: Re: Game 17: vs. Binghamton 1/9 7pm
Post by: Seawolf97 on January 10, 2019, 12:51:08 pm
Christie is alot like the big guy at Michigan    Teske I believe.  Watched him the other night  bottle the middle and score against Indiana and he is a sophomore.  Christie will improve if he stays with it .  Warney  wasnt NBA material either in his first two years he was over weight and slow up and down the court .  Give the kid a shot and he will be fine at this level .
Title: Re: Game 17: vs. Binghamton 1/9 7pm
Post by: Chairman of the Board on January 10, 2019, 12:59:54 pm
Christie is young and slow afoot, but what an outstanding move to his left last night (he is right-handed, I believe).  He is certainly a longer-term project, but remember Petras who was raw as heck as a freshman, and turned out to be quite serviceable by his senior year.  I think there is definitely some upside to his game, and he currently provides some nice depth when Otchere and Chef get into foul trouble.

or even mcalister.  he came a long way from his jr year to sr year. 
Title: Re: Game 17: vs. Binghamton 1/9 7pm
Post by: laxnation on January 10, 2019, 01:09:25 pm
Christie is young and slow afoot, but what an outstanding move to his left last night (he is right-handed, I believe).  He is certainly a longer-term project, but remember Petras who was raw as heck as a freshman, and turned out to be quite serviceable by his senior year.  I think there is definitely some upside to his game, and he currently provides some nice depth when Otchere and Chef get into foul trouble.

or even mcalister.  he came a long way from his jr year to sr year.
He was a great athlete and an even better person!
Title: Re: Game 17: vs. Binghamton 1/9 7pm
Post by: OldSeawolf on January 10, 2019, 01:21:35 pm
Christie is young and slow afoot, but what an outstanding move to his left last night (he is right-handed, I believe).  He is certainly a longer-term project, but remember Petras who was raw as heck as a freshman, and turned out to be quite serviceable by his senior year.  I think there is definitely some upside to his game, and he currently provides some nice depth when Otchere and Chef get into foul trouble.

or even mcalister.  he came a long way from his jr year to sr year.

Yes, leaps and bounds.  And if I'm not mistaken, he is still playing professionally, or had a long professional run.
Title: Re: Game 17: vs. Binghamton 1/9 7pm
Post by: Hammertime on January 10, 2019, 08:07:02 pm
It's going to be so much fun to watch Otchere over the next couple of years. This may be bold, but I'll say it: he's going to play in the NBA.

Otchere needs to be an offensive threat and score more points. Will, that happen next year? time will tell. Way, way to soon to talk about NBA.
Title: Re: Game 17: vs. Binghamton 1/9 7pm
Post by: Hammertime on January 10, 2019, 08:11:56 pm
Sloppy game but a win is a win.
I'm very concerned with our turnovers as conference play goes on. Especially the "live ball" turnovers.
We defended in the half court very well though and held them to an extremely low conversion rate. Wasn't all Big Jeff. I love how Olaniyi can sit in a stance and guard 5'9 guards but also can body up a 6'7 forward or slide his feet with an electric wing(Michigan State game). Man he's a stud on that side of the ball. Jules Moor needs more playing time is a tier below Olaniyi defensively.
Im happy big Jeff is getting the hang of his foul trouble. Binghamton started second guessing themselves every drive after that block in Little Sammy where we ICED the ball screen. Jeff took a Horrible angle and Sammy just changed directions to easily get into the lane, he thought he had a lay up (So did I) and Jeff recovers and swats it. That block there changed how they attacked. That is the Otchere Jeff Boals envisioned and why all those Universities wanted him.
How about 29 big minutes from McKenzie. Only turning the ball over 1 time. Compared to Cornish's 4 TO's in half the amount of time. I know the forum has been critical of him but I think the brakes need to be pumped just a little. And I think we all should appreciate him more.He's a steady hand during the storm at times. That 50 foot pass to Moor for the dunk is as good of a pass as you'll see in all levels of basketball. You can't practice that type of feed any better.
As a person who works with HS, College and Pro players for a living I learn to appreciate guys like McKenzie a great deal. Guys like him keep your locker room happy because they give the rock up to teammates very often, are technically sound and don't play outside of themselves. McKenzie almost always fakes a pass,before he makes a pass when he's under pressure. That's Textbook fundamentals. Some of the High major guys I work with still can't grasp that concept. When McKenzie plays within himself and does what he does, I'll take him any day.

All great points.  Still think McKenzie picks up his dribble way too early at times, particularly when under pressure.  I'd like to see him keep the dribble alive longer, and pass off the dribble consistently.  He's obviously earning more playing time with Coach Boals, and quite frankly, I love to see a coach pull someone off the floor, when they are not doing what they are supposed to be doing.

McKenzie is a bench warmer. SB would be much better off if Moore, Long, Olaniyi played more minutes and McKenzie sits this season out..
Title: Re: Game 17: vs. Binghamton 1/9 7pm
Post by: Wolffan on January 11, 2019, 05:55:40 am
Sloppy game but a win is a win.
 
How about 29 big minutes from McKenzie. Only turning the ball over 1 time. Compared to Cornish's 4 TO's in half the amount of time. I know the forum has been critical of him but I think the brakes need to be pumped just a little. And I think we all should appreciate him more.He's a steady hand during the storm at times. That 50 foot pass to Moor for the dunk is as good of a pass as you'll see in all levels of basketball. You can't practice that type of feed any better.
As a person who works with HS, College and Pro players for a living I learn to appreciate guys like McKenzie a great deal. Guys like him keep your locker room happy because they give the rock up to teammates very often, are technically sound and don't play outside of themselves. McKenzie almost always fakes a pass,before he makes a pass when he's under pressure. That's Textbook fundamentals. Some of the High major guys I work with still can't grasp that concept. When McKenzie plays within himself and does what he does, I'll take him any day.

One reason why he is able to do that is that he has given up the dribble. Not good. He has a tendency to do that and at our level the defending guards will swarm you and your teammates  have to cut towards you...getting the offense a bit out of synch even if you don't turn the bll over.

He is a solid player, makes very good decisions (except when he gives up the dribble),  and always looks to get his teammates involved. (He is not a slasher or a leaper or a slick ball handler/shooter  like Woodhouse...but I think he is a serviceable backup on the squad who can be effective against AE teams like Binghamton - as we saw. )
Title: Re: Game 17: vs. Binghamton 1/9 7pm
Post by: ThegreatK on January 11, 2019, 10:28:12 am
I agree with your sentiments. He does kill his dribble often and could take 1 extra dribble to draw the help defender a tad bit closer. But he's limited in the dribbling department as you noted and he knows it which is important.
Would we rather he take the extra dribble and cough the rock up or pick his dribble up and move it along safely and our Seawolves keep the possession?  Those are our options.
One other thing of note is when McKenzie does get past a guy, he changes hands with the ball to avoid the back tap. Another fundamental that even high major guards don't grasp.

He's a ball mover, a guy that will get into the paint off kick outs and lazy closeouts but won't create to get in the paint and almost always will kick it or dish it. He's going to get the ball over half court without turning it over. And if you're up ahead he will hit you right on the button like he did Jules Moor.He's serviceable back up with what he brings to the table.

We will be way better at that spot next year. Supposedly Kale is our best player. So as Cornish moves out. Kale just slides in and we keep what we have unless Yeboah leaves after graduation. The players themselves even think he's the goods.
More scorer than facilitator. Will shoot the 3 at a 40% clip and handles the rock well.