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Title: Does Stony Brook Football need a new direction?
Post by: iBOsbu on November 17, 2018, 06:27:01 pm
Does Stony Brook Football need a new direction? Is this time to let go Coach Priore?
Title: Re: Does Stony Brook Football need a new direction?
Post by: ry1nik on November 17, 2018, 06:30:12 pm
Does Stony Brook Football need a new direction? Is this time to let go Coach Priore?
Does a bear crap in the woods?
Title: Re: Does Stony Brook Football need a new direction?
Post by: OldSeawolf on November 17, 2018, 06:50:14 pm
I didnít watch US game, but followed stat update on UA site. I canít believe we took lead on 4th down Hail Mary, and then had an unsportsmanlike? And in 17 seconds allowed UA to get in fg range?  Just simply horrible.

Their recruiting is great, their D is great (although not today apparently), and O is decent. I donít like Coachesí conservative play calling and his time Mgmt skills are certainly lacking. Donít know him personally, but salting him away for 4 more years seems a bit excessive, imo.
Title: Re: Does Stony Brook Football need a new direction?
Post by: VA_Seawolf on November 17, 2018, 06:53:07 pm
I'd pay for his buyout myself if I had the means.
Title: Re: Does Stony Brook Football need a new direction?
Post by: guest282 on November 17, 2018, 07:20:45 pm
Wasn't crazy about that squib kick, considering kicking from the 25. Basically you were guaranteeing Albany the ball beyond midfield, with time for one, if not two plays.
Title: Re: Does Stony Brook Football need a new direction?
Post by: Hammertime on November 17, 2018, 07:28:11 pm
Wasn't crazy about that squib kick, considering kicking from the 25. Basically you were guaranteeing Albany the ball beyond midfield, with time for one, if not two plays.

I want to know what coach called for that bonehead squid kick with 17seconnds on the clock and a field goal to win. Oh, i know coach P.  What does he care. He has his contract extension thru 2022. it doesnt matter..
Title: Re: Does Stony Brook Football need a new direction?
Post by: Hammertime on November 17, 2018, 07:29:47 pm
I'd pay for his buyout myself if I had the means.

 I would do the same, buddy. Coach P blew this game and most likely cost this team a playoff birth. Way to go Mr. Money bags. You are the man!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Does Stony Brook Football need a new direction?
Post by: Hammertime on November 17, 2018, 07:32:34 pm
Does Stony Brook Football need a new direction? Is this time to let go Coach Priore?

Yes there is. In 4 years from now. I dont know if I can stick around for that long with this coach.
Title: Re: Does Stony Brook Football need a new direction?
Post by: Hammertime on November 17, 2018, 07:36:16 pm
Minus Carbone another hail mary throw, up for grabs for anyone to catch, his numbers don't warrant SB a playoff birth. You cant win games with numbers like this from your QB.

http://stats.statbroadcast.com/statmonitr/?id=222667
Title: Re: Does Stony Brook Football need a new direction?
Post by: OldSeawolf on November 17, 2018, 07:40:36 pm
A squib?  Thatís something that didnít show up in Statcast. What a stupid decision.
Title: Re: Does Stony Brook Football need a new direction?
Post by: Hammertime on November 17, 2018, 07:43:08 pm
Was anyone listening to the game on 103.9 ?? I was and I also could not believe what I heard when asked at the end of the game what his thoughts were for making the playoofs. He basically said it is what it is. UA played great today. AS if he really didnt give two $hits if they get in or not. Coach P sucks. Bottom line. I could quite possibly be done as far as being a season ticket holder and paying big money to watch his poor coaching performance. I'll leave that to the participation trophy fans out there to cheer him on in the future..
Title: Re: Does Stony Brook Football need a new direction?
Post by: ry1nik on November 17, 2018, 07:52:33 pm
I thought after being blown out by Towson this team is not a playoff team. I was starting to think I was wrong. Losing now to the cellar dweller is going to tank their Sagarin rating so it will probably be Towson or Delaware.
Title: Re: Does Stony Brook Football need a new direction?
Post by: VA_Seawolf on November 17, 2018, 08:22:26 pm
I'd pay for his buyout myself if I had the means.

 I would do the same, buddy. Coach P blew this game and most likely cost this team a playoff birth. Way to go Mr. Money bags. You are the man!!!!!!!!!!

I don't want us to be in tomorrow. I hope the committee leaves us out as we don't deserve a spot, but unfortunately, the rest of the FCS has been so bad, that we're still likely in the playoffs. We were ranked #10 in both polls this week and everybody lost. My best guess for a first round match-up is either at home against Monmouth, or on the road against Maine next week. Winner travels to Colgate. We could also be at Colgate next weekend if Colgate doesn't get a seed. I can think of maybe 5-6 programs with resumes that warrant a playoff seed. Only 2-3 of those will get one.
Title: Re: Does Stony Brook Football need a new direction?
Post by: Triple Lindy on November 17, 2018, 08:45:18 pm
On a more pleasant note,  womenís volleyball just finished off UALbany for second consecutive  America east championship. Nice job.
Title: Re: Does Stony Brook Football need a new direction?
Post by: ecasadoSBU on November 17, 2018, 09:14:10 pm
C'mon guys... let's not get to the point that we root AGAINST our team! Not acceptable!

Go Seawolves! I hope our name gets called tomorrow
Title: Re: Does Stony Brook Football need a new direction?
Post by: FirecoachP on November 17, 2018, 09:46:20 pm
Look clearly the biggest bonehead play was on 88 which set us up having to kick the ball from the 20. Then Thompson and P made another stupid call on a short squib kick but or D did not show up and once again 21 got burnt. Sucks for the seniors but it is what it is.
Title: Re: Does Stony Brook Football need a new direction?
Post by: VA_Seawolf on November 18, 2018, 12:26:34 am
Washington State in the Pac-12 is leading Arizona 55-14 at halftime.

I'd kill for an offense like that. If we had one iota of that we'd be dangerous. Few teams have figured out how to have an explosive offense with a stout defense. Some of the Big 12 teams like Oklahoma and TCU manage to do it from time to time.
Title: Re: Does Stony Brook Football need a new direction?
Post by: Hammertime on November 18, 2018, 04:59:47 am
Read the Newsday article, especially towards the bottom.  Do you think these athletes love their coach?

https://www.newsday.com/amp/sports/college/stony-brook/stony-brook-stumbles-in-regular-season-finale-1.23528957?__twitter_impression=true
Title: Re: Does Stony Brook Football need a new direction?
Post by: ecasadoSBU on November 18, 2018, 10:07:17 am
I was able to sleep. lol. That was bad...

But if our name gets called in a couple hours everything will be just fine. It's football boys. As much as I wanted to spank Albany - in the back of my head I knew that they always played us tough there and they have played us tough even at LaValle. Its almost as if records don't matter when we these two teams face each other... With that said, did I expect to win last night? Of course I did. There is no way to excuse that kind of loss last night. But at the same time I don't think it warrants SBU firing the coach P. Not me at least.

Delaware loss to Villanova in Newark, DE last night. That's right. They got buried by their rival again in front of their home crowd for the 7th straight game

------->

We had some epic finishes against Albany before in LaValle Stadium (including FCS playoffs). Everyone remember Dominick Reyes who saved the game to move to the second round? Those memories will never fade
Title: Re: Does Stony Brook Football need a new direction?
Post by: OldSeawolf on November 18, 2018, 11:41:22 am
Delaware loss to Villanova in Newark, DE last night. That's right. They got buried by their rival again in front of their home crowd for the 7th straight game

That's the game that probably gets us in.  12:30 will be nail biting time.
Title: Re: Does Stony Brook Football need a new direction?
Post by: VA_Seawolf on November 18, 2018, 12:31:01 pm
I wouldn't worry about being in. I'd be shocked if we weren't in. We're not great, but everyone else is worse. The big question is where do we go? If we host the first round, we would probably get Monmouth at home. If we don't host, we could be send to Maine or Colgate in the first round, and potentially face the other in the second round. Colgate or Maine could also be a second round destination following a victory vs Monmouth.


As for the loss, I'm done excusing Coach P. He's been losing important games at the end of the season for years. I can recall several choke jobs vs Liberty in the Big South days for instance. It's just what he does. If he gets us to the quarterfinals the heat will let up a little bit, but does anybody honestly see this team getting that far?? Unless we get an incredibly fortunate bracket, I have a tough time seeing it.
Title: Re: Does Stony Brook Football need a new direction?
Post by: Triple Lindy on November 18, 2018, 12:44:46 pm
The committee put us in. We go to SE Missouri State.
Title: Re: Does Stony Brook Football need a new direction?
Post by: Triple Lindy on November 18, 2018, 12:46:03 pm
6 CAA teams get the nod. The committee obviously respects/values the conference. I like it.
Title: Re: Does Stony Brook Football need a new direction?
Post by: OldSeawolf on November 18, 2018, 12:46:57 pm
Woohoo!  Talk about drama; last team announced. When Delaware was announced, I was optimistic, but when Elon was 5thh Caa team announced, thought we were done. Congrats to the team. After losing a must-win yesterday, theyíve been given a reprieve.
Title: Re: Does Stony Brook Football need a new direction?
Post by: ecasadoSBU on November 18, 2018, 12:47:51 pm
Back in the playoff for consecutive years! It's been great following this ride!

GO SEAWOLVES! MAKE SOME NOISE!
Title: Re: Does Stony Brook Football need a new direction?
Post by: VA_Seawolf on November 18, 2018, 12:52:35 pm
Woohoo!  Talk about drama; last team announced. When Delaware was announced, I was optimistic, but when Elon was 5thh Caa team announced, thought we were done. Congrats to the team. After losing a must-win yesterday, theyíve been given a reprieve.

If anything, Elon being in was what made us a lock IMO. I didn't begin to freak out until I saw Jacksonville St. vs ETSU as Maine's play-in game. That's when I was like "oh ****, we're done."
Title: Re: Does Stony Brook Football need a new direction?
Post by: ecasadoSBU on November 18, 2018, 12:56:04 pm
How the heck did a 6-4 Elon team make it in. That's wrong! Give someone else a chance!!
Title: Re: Does Stony Brook Football need a new direction?
Post by: Chrissy D. on November 18, 2018, 01:05:33 pm
Elon had a game cancelled due to the hurricane. Im sure that was a consideration
Title: Re: Does Stony Brook Football need a new direction?
Post by: VA_Seawolf on November 18, 2018, 01:42:21 pm
The committee respects the CAA and what Elon was able accomplish in the conference. I don't mind them being in.

The biggest headscratcher is Incarnate Word. A six win team in a conference as bad as the Southland shouldn't be in at the expense of a seven in Valley team like Indiana State. That's complete crap. The Softland is a joke of a conference. Lamar at least was on a six game winning streak, so that I can understand. Even them though I have to somewhat question as Monmouth was there at 8-3 having finished 2nd in the Big South. Their only losses were to FBS Eastern Michigan, and two top 5 teams in Kennesaw State and Princeton.

In all honesty, Indiana State and Monmouth should be in. Incarnate Word, and one of Lamar or Elon should be out.
Title: Re: Does Stony Brook Football need a new direction?
Post by: VA_Seawolf on November 24, 2018, 05:47:19 pm
If you had any doubts about this, see today's second half performance.
Title: Re: Does Stony Brook Football need a new direction?
Post by: Seawolf97 on November 24, 2018, 08:00:25 pm
VA Seawolf  I agree 100%  we are in an offensive rut .
Title: Re: Does Stony Brook Football need a new direction?
Post by: iBOsbu on November 27, 2019, 01:41:51 pm
Who has a change of mind after another year?
Title: Re: Does Stony Brook Football need a new direction?
Post by: Hammertime on November 27, 2019, 08:00:11 pm
Stony Brook Football losing a good WR. JP Roane, a 2 start WR from New Jersey.  He enterd into the transfer protocol.  So it begins!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Does Stony Brook Football need a new direction?
Post by: Green Opaque on November 27, 2019, 08:02:52 pm
If this doesn't encourage Shawn to fire Chuck, what the **** will???
Title: Re: Does Stony Brook Football need a new direction?
Post by: Seawolf97 on November 27, 2019, 08:56:43 pm
Alot of these kids  come from championship teams so when they the handwriting on the wall they will bail.  I dont see any offensive change  for 2020 just more of the same We shall see in August .
Title: Re: Does Stony Brook Football need a new direction?
Post by: Campi47 on November 27, 2019, 09:36:48 pm
JP Roane might have been a ** player out of HS but after he came here he took off a semester for personal reasons and I donít think he ever felt good about being here. Also there were players ahead of him on the depth chart coming back next year.

Also another player that entered the portal is Will Cochado and between now and the Spring there will be others and for the most part they are players who werenít going to get much playing time anyway




Title: Re: Does Stony Brook Football need a new direction?
Post by: Campi47 on November 29, 2019, 09:34:20 pm
I was talking to some people regarding the SBU Coaches and from what they know there will be no changes until after the February signing day so it doesnít effect recruiting

Early signing day is December 19

There are at least 7 LI HS players that will be coming to SBU as preferred walk-one who made All County
Title: Re: Does Stony Brook Football need a new direction?
Post by: Hammertime on November 30, 2019, 01:52:14 pm
I was talking to some people regarding the SBU Coaches and from what they know there will be no changes until after the February signing day so it doesnít effect recruiting

Early signing day is December 19

There are at least 7 LI HS players that will be coming to SBU as preferred walk-one who made All County


Not a surprise
Title: Re: Does Stony Brook Football need a new direction?
Post by: Campi47 on December 06, 2019, 10:28:56 am
SBU does not need a new direction and this is why I say that;

Since 2015 SBU has the 2nd best record in the CAA

Coach P is not there to coddle his players heís there to mold them and if they canít take it then they should leave

As fans we have to realize what this University is about and that is Research if you want athletics to be #1 then you have to add programs like Teaching and Business Administration

Recruiting is going really well the players leaving are walk-ons and malcontents

What Coach do want to hire thatís realistic in getting

As far as getting more people in the stadium I wouldnít count the students so they have to come up with better ideas that will attract people such as giveaways and game times

I know I will get a lot of pushback on what I just wrote so bring it on and by the way I rather have Coach P over some of the other names that people throw around on this forum.
Title: Re: Does Stony Brook Football need a new direction?
Post by: Hammertime on December 06, 2019, 11:04:30 am
SBU does not need a new direction and this is why I say that;

Since 2015 SBU has the 2nd best record in the CAA

Coach P is not there to coddle his players heís there to mold them and if they canít take it then they should leave

As fans we have to realize what this University is about and that is Research if you want athletics to be #1 then you have to add programs like Teaching and Business Administration

Recruiting is going really well the players leaving are walk-ons and malcontents

What Coach do want to hire thatís realistic in getting

As far as getting more people in the stadium I wouldnít count the students so they have to come up with better ideas that will attract people such as giveaways and game times

I know I will get a lot of pushback on what I just wrote so bring it on and by the way I rather have Coach P over some of the other names that people throw around on this forum.

Campi. as always i respect everything you are saying and you do have more insight to what is going on behind closed doors, however. As fans we want to see a new direction with SB football. We want to see them start winning and become a perineal powerhouse.

Coach P was given all the tools, money, resources to make this happen but SB constantly shows us when it comes to tougher opponents they get crushed. yeah, they may beat the likes of, Sacred Heart, Bryant, CCSU, but when it comes down to stronger teams in the FCS , they cant seal the deal. And almost winning only works with hand grenades and horseshoes.

To be continued!
Title: Re: Does Stony Brook Football need a new direction?
Post by: Chairman of the Board on December 06, 2019, 11:15:43 am
on the attendance issue- we landed at: 40k (8k/game)
9652+5742+6204+12812+5599

(always have to disclaim counting tickets, free tickets, the gate, etc.)

while solid, i think most would want it improved.  given that JMU (homecoming) was 13k, leaving us at 6750/game (roughly half full).

i propose an experiment- give away all the tickets for free and see how many students show up.

whoops.
Title: Re: Does Stony Brook Football need a new direction?
Post by: Campi47 on December 06, 2019, 11:53:23 am
The type of player that would be great for SBU is the IVY League kid however it's hard to lure a kid like this to SBU even with our great Research Programs

If they ever do want to make a Coaching change there a 2 places I would start; Junior Colleges and a high Academic College that constantly wins
Title: Re: Does Stony Brook Football need a new direction?
Post by: VA_Seawolf on December 06, 2019, 01:04:11 pm
on the attendance issue- we landed at: 40k (8k/game)
9652+5742+6204+12812+5599

(always have to disclaim counting tickets, free tickets, the gate, etc.)

while solid, i think most would want it improved.  given that JMU (homecoming) was 13k, leaving us at 6750/game (roughly half full).

i propose an experiment- give away all the tickets for free and see how many students show up.

whoops.

They can try giving away all the tickets they want, but at this point the brand of football is holding SBU back more than anything. Back in the Big South days when we had Maysonett, Essington, etc. our offense put up way more points and was exciting to watch as Kyle could make all the throws and we had a clear talent advantage over the rest of that conference. These days? It's run up the middle three times and then punt against much more formidable competition in the CAA.

Fields brings a dual threat element to this offense finally, but that's still not enough when Coach still runs it up the middle every play. We need somebody who can run the air raid offense and develop a quarterback. This is the system you see at Oklahoma, Washington State, SMU, and other places.

One thing I will agree with Campi on is who that person is. You'd probably have to manage to pull away one of the low level assistant coaches at one of the P5 schools mentioned which is a tall order. SBU is a tier 1 academic university and is right up there with the Big Ten schools academically though, so while it wouldn't be easy, it's certainly not impossible for us to get a guy like that.
Title: Re: Does Stony Brook Football need a new direction?
Post by: Chairman of the Board on December 06, 2019, 01:42:54 pm
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They can try giving away all the tickets they want, but at this point the brand of football is holding SBU back more than anything. Back in the Big South days when we had Maysonett, Essington, etc. our offense put up way more points and was exciting to watch as Kyle could make all the throws and we had a clear talent advantage over the rest of that conference. These days? It's run up the middle three times and then punt against much more formidable competition in the CAA.

i certainly agree, and wanted to further point out- i would suppose that the average SBU student that attends a game does NOT know the distinction between P5 vs nonP5, or maybe even FCS vs FBS.  or who is in the CAA, for example.

to them it's just college football.  they don't know the American vs USA.  the ohio valley from the missouri valley.  southern vs southland.  few in the northeast do.

meaning, only winning and excitement is what matters to these fans (not to me by the way).  they probably mostly don't know or even care who we play, what conference, etc. 
Title: Re: Does Stony Brook Football need a new direction?
Post by: Green Opaque on December 09, 2019, 05:32:05 pm
Kareem Gaulden and Brandon Ciullo are out.
Title: Re: Does Stony Brook Football need a new direction?
Post by: Hammertime on February 03, 2020, 09:02:15 am
https://www.facebook.com/889538027792855/posts/2747901498623156/

But yet SB has never had a player drafted!!! Make you wonder.
Title: Re: Does Stony Brook Football need a new direction?
Post by: Tml on February 03, 2020, 09:17:10 am
The only notable player from URI who has played in the NFL was Steve Furness.  He has a nice career with the Steelers in the 70s.

The only SB player who had any kind of career was Will Tye, who was a starting and/or second TE with the Giants for a couple of years.

In all fairness, Coxson should have been drafted.  He had a shot with Green Bay because he had very good speed and decent size but suffered a severe concussion and retired.