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Title: 2018 Football
Post by: Campi47 on January 22, 2018, 12:23:59 pm
I am starting this post because there are about a half dozen people that all they do is come on this site is **** and moan about Coach P and his staff and the ones who do this probably have never coached at the college level or coached at all so I'm calling on people who appreciate what this staff has done to start talking up the program and not be like the rest of these malcontents and love to do nothing but complain for the sake of complaining.

I personally am going to do something positive this year I have a call in to the ticket office and will purchase a large block of tickets for one of the home games this year and donate them to  a HS so that they can bring their players to an SBU game
Title: Re: 2018 Football
Post by: guest260 on January 22, 2018, 01:19:04 pm
Campi,  Great start. I also told SH, that for EVERY half of football in 2018 where there is NOT one Seawolf penalty I will donate $250.00 per half (in addition to what we give already). Lets see how this "risk/ reward" works out. And I said that if they wanted to use in the form of a scholarship/foundation I am more than happy to set-up a foundation effort to support that similar to other Power 5 programs and others.

As to the coaching side- I think all of us have had issues with some of the coaching decisions, but that is what they get paid to do. All this forum provides is a positive/negative view of SBU sports, and as my grandmother used to say... "Opinions are like a$$holes. Everyone has one and they normally all stink!
Title: Re: 2018 Football
Post by: Campi47 on January 22, 2018, 03:29:49 pm
I know as fans we all get frustrated however SBU doesn't have the big budget to bring in FBS assistant coaches in fact I spoke to one of the SBU assistant coaches that they have and he said in order for them to coach on LI they either have to be single or their spouses have to have good paying jobs.


For SBU to be competitive they have to recruit off of LI because the top half dozen players want the FBS and so recruiting has become a 365 day a year job for them so you have to have assistants who can be on the road a lot. We are not going to get 4 or 5 star players to come here unless they transfer in so we have to take what we can get and DEVELOP THEM
Title: Re: 2018 Football
Post by: Wolffan on January 23, 2018, 06:10:15 am
I've gone to about three (sometimes four) home games a year for the past six years and round up a few neighbors to go with me each time.  Always an enjoyable day at SBU. And those who have not been to Stony Brook in a good while are amazed and impressed by what they see. From the campus, to the stadium, to the marching band, to the quality of play  on the field.

I'm thoroughly impressed with the job Stony Brook has done in term of assembling a competitive CAA-level team. Kudos to the coaches and kids.  I do think our success in this department is at least a small part of Stony Brooks University's growing reputation. SBU is no longer a secret to the academic kids in the area.

I think the decision to enter a four-game series w/Fordham was an inspired  one and will benefit both schools and may even build a very nice NY rivalry. Certainly the students at both schools have much in common.  I've already eyeballed the train route (LIRR to Penn, MetroNorth out of Grand Central, get off at Fordham Road on the edge of campus).

Title: Re: 2018 Football
Post by: Hammertime on January 23, 2018, 10:54:13 am
I've gone to about three (sometimes four) home games a year for the past six years and round up a few neighbors to go with me each time.  Always an enjoyable day at SBU. And those who have not been to Stony Brook in a good while are amazed and impressed by what they see. From the campus, to the stadium, to the marching band, to the quality of play  on the field.

I'm thoroughly impressed with the job Stony Brook has done in term of assembling a competitive CAA-level team. Kudos to the coaches and kids.  I do think our success in this department is at least a small part of Stony Brooks University's growing reputation. SBU is no longer a secret to the academic kids in the area.

I think the decision to enter a four-game series w/Fordham was an inspired  one and will benefit both schools and may even build a very nice NY rivalry. Certainly the students at both schools have much in common.  I've already eyeballed the train route (LIRR to Penn, MetroNorth out of Grand Central, get off at Fordham Road on the edge of campus).

Me and a bunch of ticket holders have been going to these games for about 8 years now as well. As far as Being impressed with the Campus, expanding the stadium, new concession area, marching band yes, they do a great job for being a FCS team. I am getting the opposite feed back though with the play on the field. We feel the play calling and style of plays has not changed since day one..This is something only the coaches can change..
Title: Re: 2018 Football
Post by: sbufan on January 23, 2018, 07:49:18 pm
I think the team is going to be good. A couple studs graduated, but the team returns a lot and I think they've turned a corner. Cautiously optimistic
Title: Re: 2018 Football
Post by: sbugold on January 26, 2018, 01:44:59 pm
Just checked out the preliminary roster for '18, and a couple of DL guys are notable by their absence.  Any insight into these guys (Josh Valentin and Odean Gilzene)?

Title: Re: 2018 Football
Post by: Hammertime on January 26, 2018, 02:06:03 pm
Just checked out the preliminary roster for '18, and a couple of DL guys are notable by their absence.  Any insight into these guys (Josh Valentin and Odean Gilzene)?

Valentine didnt play last season and was on the sidelines all season.. Not sure what's up with that. That is a shame considering how strong he was on defense.
Title: Re: 2018 Football
Post by: Hammertime on January 26, 2018, 02:17:14 pm
Losing Ousamne Camara to graduation is going to hurt our line. 6'1" 310 lbs. He will be hard to replace..
Title: Re: 2018 Football
Post by: Chrissy D. on January 27, 2018, 10:47:58 am
Valentin was injured last season
Title: Re: 2018 Football
Post by: sbugold on January 27, 2018, 12:25:15 pm
Valentin was injured last season

Understand that.  But, what's the scoop THIS season?
Title: Re: 2018 Football
Post by: guest260 on January 28, 2018, 12:34:57 pm
according to our son Josh is not allowed to play any longer. He has some issue associated with his Neck and some breakdown of his bones.
Title: Re: 2018 Football
Post by: Hammertime on January 28, 2018, 02:29:50 pm
according to our son Josh is not allowed to play any longer. He has some issue associated with his Neck and some breakdown of his bones.
Awww .  That's too bad. I liked him!!
Title: Re: 2018 Football
Post by: Wolfie_MD on January 28, 2018, 05:13:56 pm
Darn, that's a huge shame. Josh was arguably the strongest guy on the team too- had a really bright future on the field.

Hope he's able to have success in his post-athletic life then
Title: Re: 2018 Football
Post by: sbugold on April 09, 2018, 02:56:52 pm
Noticed an interesting tidbit on the 2018 FB roster.  Apparently Isaiah White has been moved back to RB from LB.  I guess Coach P. thought they were too loaded with underclassman and needed some more experience in that position.
Title: Re: 2018 Football
Post by: sbufan on April 09, 2018, 04:24:15 pm
Interesting that Gilzene is listed on the two deep in the Spring prospectus but missing from the roster. Must of have been a last minute change. http://www.stonybrookathletics.com/documents/2018/3/20/2018_Spring_Prospectus.pdf


I think the Bolden is going to be the hardest player two replace from last year's team and WR is the position to watch. Washington, Anderson, and Trent all have experience and have made some notable plays. There's also 6 freshmen, counting Seba Nekhet who burned his redshirt season in the fal, looking to make a impression. Hopefully a couple of these guys have big seasons.
Title: Re: 2018 Football
Post by: Campi47 on April 09, 2018, 09:43:28 pm
Isaiah White is one of the most coachable and great person you will ever meet, his primary job for 2018 will be one of the leaders of special teams but will do whatever is necessary to help this team
Title: Re: 2018 Football
Post by: Campi47 on April 22, 2018, 01:25:13 pm
With Spring Football winding down this is what I'm hearing;

Isaiah White will probably be redshirted so that they will have a senior presence at RB for the 2019 season

Sometime over the next month 2 or 3 transfers could be coming on board

So far around 100 rising seniors have been on campus and a huge number will be on campus for the Spring game next Saturday

I was correct the new WR Coach has been here and he will be officially announced in May

SBU is also bringing on another defensive assistant to assist one of the position Coaches and he has also been on board

There has been only one major injury this Spring and he will be ready for when camp opens in August
Title: Re: 2018 Football
Post by: Wolfie_MD on April 22, 2018, 07:18:13 pm
I'm hoping to go to the Spring Game this weekend- most excited I've been for this team in a while
Title: Re: 2018 Football
Post by: Chrissy D. on April 22, 2018, 07:50:31 pm
I am not usually critical but this whole Isiah White situation boggles my mind. They shouldve redshirted him 2 yrs ago when they could have or they could have redshirted Gowins 2 yrs ago due to the fact that he was coming off ankle sugery. White is a stud athlete who has been wasted the last couple yrs with that failed LB experiment. Gowins was hampered that first yr and could have used the yr to get healthy. White was good enough to step right in as a true freshman but they couldnt figure the redshirt thing out until now. I know he was an all conference special teamer but 2 yrs wasted imo. The RB position doesnt need senior leadership, thats just code word for " we really f***d that one up". At least White will finally get a real shot at RB.
Title: Re: 2018 Football
Post by: Seawolf97 on April 23, 2018, 05:41:56 pm
The never ending saga  of SBU football .
Title: Re: 2018 Football
Post by: Campi47 on May 10, 2018, 09:25:57 pm
A few weeks ago I mentioned that Mitchell Wright a Punter from Australia was the first commit for the 2019 recruiting class well I was wrong he was added to the 2018 roster today as a sophomore for the 2018 season. In addition Kameron Pickett a RB from the University of Buffalo also was added to the 2018 roster today.
Title: Re: 2018 Football
Post by: Campi47 on June 01, 2018, 10:10:11 pm
Coach P added his 3rd transfer today when CeQuan Jefferson a DB with 1 year of eligibility was added to the roster that makes a total of 3 transfers so far
Title: Re: 2018 Football
Post by: Hammertime on June 02, 2018, 05:26:14 am
Coach P added his 3rd transfer today when CeQuan Jefferson a DB with 1 year of eligibility was added to the roster that makes a total of 3 transfers so far

Can you post the other 2 transfers, Campi..

I thought I read that JMU and JSU had the most in the FCS. I think 7 for JMU, as of now...
Title: Re: 2018 Football
Post by: sbugold on June 02, 2018, 08:48:20 am
Coach P added his 3rd transfer today when CeQuan Jefferson a DB with 1 year of eligibility was added to the roster that makes a total of 3 transfers so far

I read a little on Jefferson yesterday.  He had amazingly sterling credentials coming out of high school and prep school, but never seemed to gel (or, perhaps, get a real opportunity) at Temple, even though he lettered there for 4 years.  Can't figure out why.  He's going to do a graduate year at SBU, so I don't think it's academics related.  So, I have to believe that he could be a tremendous boost to the secondary in filling the holes left by guys like Beverette and Cooper.
Title: Re: 2018 Football
Post by: Hammertime on June 02, 2018, 07:58:30 pm
Ward Melville Football is going to be great again this year. They have some strong boys on the line. My son is on the left and is in the front of the line in the tug of war challenge where they beat Floyd last night in the Bigg Ugly lineman challenge in Farmingdale..

https://twitter.com/twitter/statuses/1002912185104859136
Title: Re: 2018 Football
Post by: Campi47 on June 02, 2018, 10:51:51 pm
Hammer not sure if you know this but Lindenhurst and Northport have dropped down to Division II

I think it will be Floyd (which is loaded) then either Melville or Connetquot but I think the Melville Coach has this program in a very good place and they should contend year in and year out.

On Fathers Day Mike Devlin who coaches for the Houston Texans has his linemen camp over at Connetquot HS and he brings many of the Texan players it's a great opportunity for linemen
 




Title: Re: 2018 Football
Post by: Campi47 on June 02, 2018, 10:59:48 pm
The two other transfers that you asked about are Mitchell Wright a Punter from Australia who has 3 years of eligibility and will take over for Marc once he graduates and the other player will be Kenny Pickett from Buffalo who is a RB and also has 3 years of eligibility remaining. For 2018 the rotation will be; Liotine, Gowins and Pickett.

Marshall Ellick WR came in earlier from Temple and also has one year remaining.

I still think Coach P wants to bring in a linemen
Title: Re: 2018 Football
Post by: Hammertime on June 03, 2018, 06:11:06 am
Hammer not sure if you know this but Lindenhurst and Northport have dropped down to Division II

I think it will be Floyd (which is loaded) then either Melville or Connetquot but I think the Melville Coach has this program in a very good place and they should contend year in and year out.

On Fathers Day Mike Devlin who coaches for the Houston Texans has his linemen camp over at Connetquot HS and he brings many of the Texan players it's a great opportunity for linemen

I knew about Lindenhurst and Northport dropping down, but i did not hear about the lineman camp at Connetquot HS, Ill have to ask my son about it. Coach Boultrek usually sends the parents information on up and coming football camps and competitions. I didnt see this one... Thanks for the heads up ....
Title: Re: 2018 Football
Post by: Hammertime on June 03, 2018, 06:16:52 am
The two other transfers that you asked about are Mitchell Wright a Punter from Australia who has 3 years of eligibility and will take over for Marc once he graduates and the other player will be Kenny Pickett from Buffalo who is a RB and also has 3 years of eligibility remaining. For 2018 the rotation will be; Liotine, Gowins and Pickett.

Marshall Ellick WR came in earlier from Temple and also has one year remaining.

I still think Coach P wants to bring in a linemen

Terrific, thank you.
Title: Re: 2018 Football
Post by: Seawolf97 on June 03, 2018, 11:04:23 am
We just added a defensive back from Temple . Cequan Jefferson  has 1 year of eligibility left as a graduate transfer . This was announced yesterday
Title: Re: 2018 Football
Post by: Campi47 on June 04, 2018, 01:39:20 pm
I posted that already on Saturday
Title: Re: 2018 Football
Post by: Hammertime on June 04, 2018, 02:23:00 pm
Hammer not sure if you know this but Lindenhurst and Northport have dropped down to Division II

I think it will be Floyd (which is loaded) then either Melville or Connetquot but I think the Melville Coach has this program in a very good place and they should contend year in and year out.

On Fathers Day Mike Devlin who coaches for the Houston Texans has his linemen camp over at Connetquot HS and he brings many of the Texan players it's a great opportunity for linemen

I knew about Lindenhurst and Northport dropping down, but i did not hear about the lineman camp at Connetquot HS, Ill have to ask my son about it. Coach Boultrek usually sends the parents information on up and coming football camps and competitions. I didnt see this one... Thanks for the heads up ....

The Devlin camp at Connetquot HS is closed to Registration, June 1st. My son didn't know about this one and coach Boltrek didn't tell anyone. Interesting..
Title: Re: 2018 Football
Post by: Chrissy D. on June 04, 2018, 02:49:43 pm
Hammer, just email The Devlin camp directly and let them know your are interested. They never turn anyone away. I deal with Jeff when i send my kids at work. You might have to pay late charge.
Title: Re: 2018 Football
Post by: Hammertime on June 04, 2018, 03:19:44 pm
Hammer, just email The Devlin camp directly and let them know your are interested. They never turn anyone away. I deal with Jeff when i send my kids at work. You might have to pay late charge.

I will,

Thanks.
Title: Re: 2018 Football
Post by: Hammertime on June 04, 2018, 03:38:43 pm
Hammer, just email The Devlin camp directly and let them know your are interested. They never turn anyone away. I deal with Jeff when i send my kids at work. You might have to pay late charge.

My son is signed up and he is getting some more Ward Melville lineman to sign up as well.
Title: Re: 2018 Football
Post by: Chrissy D. on June 05, 2018, 10:56:07 am
Thats good to hear. He will enjoy it.
Title: Re: 2018 Football
Post by: Campi47 on June 05, 2018, 12:39:25 pm
One of SBU top 2018 commitments Rahsul Faison a very good RB out of PA did not qualify academically and is no longer part of the 2018 recruiting class. He is now enrolled in Prep School and once he qualifies he will probably sign with an FBS program.
Title: Re: 2018 Football
Post by: Hammertime on June 05, 2018, 02:35:40 pm
One of SBU top 2018 commitments Rahsul Faison a very good RB out of PA did not qualify academically and is no longer part of the 2018 recruiting class. He is now enrolled in Prep School and once he qualifies he will probably sign with an FBS program.

Great!!! Same thing happen to both Tom and Tim Kutchma, Lineman, from WM. Coach P wanted them but the grades were just not there. On to Prep school for them. Big loss for SB Football..
Title: Re: 2018 Football
Post by: Chairman of the Board on June 05, 2018, 02:39:52 pm
but a victory for SB.  at least to me, these are students first.  and we should always keep a high academic standard.
Title: Re: 2018 Football
Post by: Hammertime on June 05, 2018, 02:50:25 pm
but a victory for SB.  at least to me, these are students first.  and we should always keep a high academic standard.

True for the university. I was just talking about the loss for football team.. These boys are monsters.. May be once they get their grades up then they will reaply to SB, close to home and family..
Title: Re: 2018 Football
Post by: VA_Seawolf on June 05, 2018, 03:00:55 pm
One of SBU top 2018 commitments Rahsul Faison a very good RB out of PA did not qualify academically and is no longer part of the 2018 recruiting class. He is now enrolled in Prep School and once he qualifies he will probably sign with an FBS program.

UNC will sign him up for fake classes and get him on their team.  ;D ;D
Title: Re: 2018 Football
Post by: Chairman of the Board on June 05, 2018, 03:19:50 pm
i know, hammer.   :D  and yes of course i agree with you- a loss for SB football.
Title: Re: 2018 Football
Post by: Campi47 on June 06, 2018, 09:33:38 pm
Coach P added two more transfers today; Casey Williams DE redshirted as a freshmen last season at Temple and will have 4 years of eligibility, while Kareem Gaulden a DB played at Dodge City CC. Both of these players are on campus and currently taking summer classes at SBU
Title: Re: 2018 Football
Post by: Seawolf97 on June 07, 2018, 10:11:03 am
That's the 3rd Temple transfer and with four years of eligibility left .    The Owls like SBU  now to grad a basketball player from them
Title: Re: 2018 Football
Post by: Campi47 on July 20, 2018, 04:59:04 pm
Tomorrow is a big day at SBU as it's their annual 7 on 7 competition and many very good teams from the tri state will be in attendance and then once that is completed many future SBU recruits will make their cay to the campus to show off their talents in the prospect camp this is the third one and there will be three more to follow
Title: Re: 2018 Football
Post by: Hammertime on July 21, 2018, 06:22:00 am
Tomorrow is a big day at SBU as it's their annual 7 on 7 competition and many very good teams from the tri state will be in attendance and then once that is completed many future SBU recruits will make their cay to the campus to show off their talents in the prospect camp this is the third one and there will be three more to follow

According to Brian McLaughlin. Hero Sports, tweeted, ElON Just signed 5 hot recruits and 3 had FBS offers from big schools, and more to come... If ELON, who is still new to the FBS can garnish star players, why cant SB football do this. It all comes down to coaching. Chuck Priore needs to change things up with his staff and find some big names assistants who can recruit .

I follow some FCS fan page groups on FB and and people are all over the country talking about their FCS teams and news that relate to the FCS. Nobody every talks or brings up SB football.I am the only one who will bring up some topics about SB football. But, they will talk about every other CAA team . This is a shame. If SB wants to make a name for themselves in football then they need to start making noise and get loud. This will only happen with a coaching change and bring in new staff.. Follow ELON approach coach P if you want to get recognized!!!!!!
Title: Re: 2018 Football
Post by: laxnation on July 21, 2018, 05:41:01 pm
Tomorrow is a big day at SBU as it's their annual 7 on 7 competition and many very good teams from the tri state will be in attendance and then once that is completed many future SBU recruits will make their cay to the campus to show off their talents in the prospect camp this is the third one and there will be three more to follow

According to Brian McLaughlin. Hero Sports, tweeted, ElON Just signed 5 hot recruits and 3 had FBS offers from big schools, and more to come... If ELON, who is still new to the FBS can garnish star players, why cant SB football do this. It all comes down to coaching. Chuck Priore needs to change things up with his staff and find some big names assistants who can recruit .

I follow some FCS fan page groups on FB and and people are all over the country talking about their FCS teams and news that relate to the FCS. Nobody every talks or brings up SB football.I am the only one who will bring up some topics about SB football. But, they will talk about every other CAA team . This is a shame. If SB wants to make a name for themselves in football then they need to start making noise and get loud. This will only happen with a coaching change and bring in new staff.. Follow ELON approach coach P if you want to get recognized!!!!!!
Last season, points scored by Elon:
Albany - 6 points
New Hsmpshire - 6 points
JMU - 3 points

Last season, points scored by Stony Brook:
Albany - 28 points
New Hampshire - 38 points
JMU - 7 points
Title: Re: 2018 Football
Post by: VA_Seawolf on July 21, 2018, 07:46:18 pm
Tomorrow is a big day at SBU as it's their annual 7 on 7 competition and many very good teams from the tri state will be in attendance and then once that is completed many future SBU recruits will make their cay to the campus to show off their talents in the prospect camp this is the third one and there will be three more to follow

According to Brian McLaughlin. Hero Sports, tweeted, ElON Just signed 5 hot recruits and 3 had FBS offers from big schools, and more to come... If ELON, who is still new to the FBS can garnish star players, why cant SB football do this. It all comes down to coaching. Chuck Priore needs to change things up with his staff and find some big names assistants who can recruit .

I follow some FCS fan page groups on FB and and people are all over the country talking about their FCS teams and news that relate to the FCS. Nobody every talks or brings up SB football.I am the only one who will bring up some topics about SB football. But, they will talk about every other CAA team . This is a shame. If SB wants to make a name for themselves in football then they need to start making noise and get loud. This will only happen with a coaching change and bring in new staff.. Follow ELON approach coach P if you want to get recognized!!!!!!

Elon is FCS lol. I think you meant new to the CAA? Or perhaps new to actually having a team with a pulse....

The thing with our recruiting this year will be this; Coach P hasn't had his contract renewed as this truly is a make or break season for him. In my mind, we'd need another playoff appearance (7-8 wins) in order to retain him since the schedule is much harder and a lot of our talent has graduated. This year will be a real test for Coach P and his staff. Until we know if we're renewing his contract or not, we're going to have a hard time recruiting players since no kid is going to want to commit to a school where they don't even know who the coach will be.

And while we're on the subject of recruiting, JMU has gotten several 3* commits and FBS transfers into their program. Their current team could probably win CUSA this year if they were FBS, so they're positioned to run this conference for a long time. Only way that changes is if an ACC school poaches their coach.
Title: Re: 2018 Football
Post by: Hammertime on July 22, 2018, 07:55:01 am
Tomorrow is a big day at SBU as it's their annual 7 on 7 competition and many very good teams from the tri state will be in attendance and then once that is completed many future SBU recruits will make their cay to the campus to show off their talents in the prospect camp this is the third one and there will be three more to follow

According to Brian McLaughlin. Hero Sports, tweeted, ElON Just signed 5 hot recruits and 3 had FBS offers from big schools, and more to come... If ELON, who is still new to the FBS can garnish star players, why cant SB football do this. It all comes down to coaching. Chuck Priore needs to change things up with his staff and find some big names assistants who can recruit .

I follow some FCS fan page groups on FB and and people are all over the country talking about their FCS teams and news that relate to the FCS. Nobody every talks or brings up SB football.I am the only one who will bring up some topics about SB football. But, they will talk about every other CAA team . This is a shame. If SB wants to make a name for themselves in football then they need to start making noise and get loud. This will only happen with a coaching change and bring in new staff.. Follow ELON approach coach P if you want to get recognized!!!!!!

Elon is FCS lol. I think you meant new to the CAA? Or perhaps new to actually having a team with a pulse....

The thing with our recruiting this year will be this; Coach P hasn't had his contract renewed as this truly is a make or break season for him. In my mind, we'd need another playoff appearance (7-8 wins) in order to retain him since the schedule is much harder and a lot of our talent has graduated. This year will be a real test for Coach P and his staff. Until we know if we're renewing his contract or not, we're going to have a hard time recruiting players since no kid is going to want to commit to a school where they don't even know who the coach will be.

And while we're on the subject of recruiting, JMU has gotten several 3* commits and FBS transfers into their program. Their current team could probably win CUSA this year if they were FBS, so they're positioned to run this conference for a long time. Only way that changes is if an ACC school poaches their coach.

Typo, Elon is FCS not FBS. I think you know that already.

I agree with you that star players wont take chance on SB if they dont know if their HC will be around next season or not.

SB had an easy schedule last year. This year not so much so. I am not expecting only one loss again for us in the CAA. We could go easily go 6-5 or 5-6. and miss the playoffs. Is that enough to renew coach P contract? Time will tell. Something inside my gut tells me SB can go 1-10 and coach P contract will still be renewed. 
Title: Re: 2018 Football
Post by: Hammertime on July 22, 2018, 08:29:49 am
Some good stuff to check out. Look where JMU, Harvard and NDSU rank .. ELON is on this list to but all the way at the bottom. SB is not listed.

https://247sports.com/Season/2019-Football/CompositeTeamRankings/
Title: Re: 2018 Football
Post by: laxnation on July 22, 2018, 09:19:14 am
Some good stuff to check out. Look where JMU, Harvard and NDSU rank .. ELON is on this list to but all the way at the bottom. SB is not listed.

https://247sports.com/Season/2019-Football/CompositeTeamRankings/
It’s a bullshit ranking system by 24/7, who is just trying to make a name for itself and it’s still early to rank all teams.  By the way, last year Stony brook was ranked higher than JMU. Just take these rankings with a grain of salt, especially the ones outside of the top 30.
Who would be a good replacement for Coach P?
Title: Re: 2018 Football
Post by: sbufan on July 22, 2018, 11:36:27 am
These rankings are only ever decent for very elite players. If you're not an elite FBS program pulling in top 300 recruits, I don't think it's worth your time looking into these things. Also the recruiting websites don't pay any attention to new york recruits. ESPN doesn't have a single NY high school player evaluated for the class of 19.
Title: Re: 2018 Football
Post by: VA_Seawolf on July 22, 2018, 12:30:29 pm
A 6-5 season may get Coach P renewed, but that wouldn't be enough to convince me unless our losses are one score games against good competition. If we win the games we should win, and then lose close ones to JMU, Air Force, and a couple other strong teams, maybe I'd go for that. If it's our typical 5-6 season then forget about it.


These rankings are only ever decent for very elite players. If you're not an elite FBS program pulling in top 300 recruits, I don't think it's worth your time looking into these things. Also the recruiting websites don't pay any attention to new york recruits. ESPN doesn't have a single NY high school player evaluated for the class of 19.

I think this is something that can work in our favor, especially if/when we move up. The northeast is under-recruited. There's talent, but teams aren't necessarily looking for it here. They're looking in Texas, California, and the South mostly. Our conference affiliation gives us recruiting ties into Maryland and Virginia which have plenty of talent that will head north for the right coaching staff.

Title: Re: 2018 Football
Post by: VA_Seawolf on July 22, 2018, 12:42:00 pm

Who would be a good replacement for Coach P?

Very good question. My first move would be to try and get Lyle Hemphill back here since we were a top 5 defense while he was here. The wildcard there is we don't know how good of a coach he'll be vs a coordinator, but his performance here with us makes him worth taking a chance on. I think we could poach him from Wake Forest as that gives him the chance to bolster his resume with a HC gig.

Outside of Lyle I'd have to start digging to turn up candidates that would be good, but given the reputation of the university, and the large salary we're willing to pay (by FCS standards) we should be able to at the very least poach a top coordinator from another program. I'm sure there are guys on the JMU or NDSU sideline who would love the chance to coach here. If all else fails, we got Coach P from a D3 school, so looking there has worked for us before.

I've been very hard on Coach P lately, but he's an offensive minded coach who won many games for us when he's had the talent in the program to compete. I want to give him his chance this year and the schedule is lining up to do just that.
Title: Re: 2018 Football
Post by: Hammertime on July 23, 2018, 05:42:37 am
These rankings are only ever decent for very elite players. If you're not an elite FBS program pulling in top 300 recruits, I don't think it's worth your time looking into these things. Also the recruiting websites don't pay any attention to new york recruits. ESPN doesn't have a single NY high school player evaluated for the class of 19.

Jeremy Rucket is from Lindenhurst and was a 4 star TE recruited by Ohio State . I watched him play last season and he is the real deal. But for the most part, yeah. The NE is not a breading grounds for recruits.

https://247sports.com/Player/Jeremy-Ruckert-91686
Title: Re: 2018 Football
Post by: sbufan on July 23, 2018, 08:46:09 am
These rankings are only ever decent for very elite players. If you're not an elite FBS program pulling in top 300 recruits, I don't think it's worth your time looking into these things. Also the recruiting websites don't pay any attention to new york recruits. ESPN doesn't have a single NY high school player evaluated for the class of 19.

Jeremy Rucket is from Lindenhurst and was a 4 star TE recruited by Ohio State . I watched him play last season and he is the real deal. But for the most part, yeah. The NE is not a breading grounds for recruits.

https://247sports.com/Player/Jeremy-Ruckert-91686

It's not even that the NE isn't a breeding ground for recruits. It's that recruiting services don't pay attention to NE recruits. If Rucket had committed to Stony Brook as  junior and shut down his recruitment, I bet he wouldn't be rated. When the services find out he has offers from Ohio State and the likes, they start watching film and giving scores. It's also why Elon appears to have great recruits
Title: Re: 2018 Football
Post by: guest260 on July 23, 2018, 01:20:40 pm
Would like to see us start a discussion on what the strengths we have on the team Offense, Defense, ST's and get some thoughts on this especially with Media day coming up this week.  I know we have all sorts of Pro and Con Coach P' folks here, but that aside and either downplaying last season's team or talking about all of us being the next Carnac the Magnificent with our strength of record, here's some of my takes.

Offense- I like the new kid from Temple (Marshall) who has come in. Looks like a nice fit to assist JC in his throwing routes.  Of course we have Cal D coming back and Anderson and Wingate so if they can stay healthy that would be great. RB's I think we are loaded with punishing Donne L and even Gowins  (thus I am guessing why we are looking at RS Isiah White-but we do have that new NCAA rule for the 4 games so who knows). Only real weakness I see is with the OL is Zimmerman who last year got a beat a lot on inside, and on the FG's they came through him in the Spring game- so hopefully they have been getting that ironed out.

Defense- or course looks strong across the board and with our LB core hopefully they can continues to cause havoc on our opponents. Hopefully some of the new DB's can make an impact GT Jefferson from Temple) and I personally like Helsop as a DB and reminds me of a smaller TB. Hope Contressa gets a lot more reps  I think our pass rush will need to be a bit more "creative" but Coach Bob has done a nice job. Hopefully Kamara and Scarbrough can standout. Note sure if the Peterson kid is ready to hang yet-
so the only weakness I see here is in the DL depth as the season goes along.

ST-looks like we have a lot of guys coming back to help. Donnie Washington and Donnie L on the Punt return and KO's I hope can make a major impact. It was nice to see Courtney had hit that 49 yarder in the Spring Game so hopefully Coach P will give him some more opportunities- but we also know Coach P likes to play the position game. Surprised that the kid they brought in 2 years ago (Prubin) has not **** the starting line-up but good for Courtney as a former WO getting the scholarship out of it. Lukansky brings back his high Sky kicks and the KO return team has been solid (but with the change in the NCAA fair catch rule) not sure if Coach T will change anything Nolan returns as the Punter (I was told he co-led all of FBS and FCS with his inside the 20 balls), and they are bringing a new Aussie as well.  Barber comes back as the long snapper so that's good and Nolan is coming back to hold on PATs and FG's.

And there is my best and only shot as to how we'll do on the player side.
Title: Re: 2018 Football
Post by: ecasadoSBU on July 24, 2018, 03:19:31 pm
Boyssss. 39 DAYS TILL FOOTBALL! Lets gooo.

Can't wait!! GO SEAWOLVES!

I hope we can watch that game on TV somehow
Title: Re: 2018 Football
Post by: VA_Seawolf on July 24, 2018, 05:28:14 pm
Boyssss. 39 DAYS TILL FOOTBALL! Lets gooo.

Can't wait!! GO SEAWOLVES!

I hope we can watch that game on TV somehow

CBSSN owns most of the MWC TV contract, so I'd guess that's where the game will be. Most likely VIA an online stream.
Title: Re: 2018 Football
Post by: Hammertime on July 27, 2018, 05:14:56 am
Tomorrow is a big day at SBU as it's their annual 7 on 7 competition and many very good teams from the tri state will be in attendance and then once that is completed many future SBU recruits will make their cay to the campus to show off their talents in the prospect camp this is the third one and there will be three more to follow

According to Brian McLaughlin. Hero Sports, tweeted, ElON Just signed 5 hot recruits and 3 had FBS offers from big schools, and more to come... If ELON, who is still new to the FBS can garnish star players, why cant SB football do this. It all comes down to coaching. Chuck Priore needs to change things up with his staff and find some big names assistants who can recruit .

I follow some FCS fan page groups on FB and and people are all over the country talking about their FCS teams and news that relate to the FCS. Nobody every talks or brings up SB football.I am the only one who will bring up some topics about SB football. But, they will talk about every other CAA team . This is a shame. If SB wants to make a name for themselves in football then they need to start making noise and get loud. This will only happen with a coaching change and bring in new staff.. Follow ELON approach coach P if you want to get recognized!!!!!!

Elon is FCS lol. I think you meant new to the CAA? Or perhaps new to actually having a team with a pulse....

The thing with our recruiting this year will be this; Coach P hasn't had his contract renewed as this truly is a make or break season for him. In my mind, we'd need another playoff appearance (7-8 wins) in order to retain him since the schedule is much harder and a lot of our talent has graduated. This year will be a real test for Coach P and his staff. Until we know if we're renewing his contract or not, we're going to have a hard time recruiting players since no kid is going to want to commit to a school where they don't even know who the coach will be.

And while we're on the subject of recruiting, JMU has gotten several 3* commits and FBS transfers into their program. Their current team could probably win CUSA this year if they were FBS, so they're positioned to run this conference for a long time. Only way that changes is if an ACC school poaches their coach.

Typo, Elon is FCS not FBS. I think you know that already.

I agree with you that star players wont take chance on SB if they dont know if their HC will be around next season or not.

SB had an easy schedule last year. This year not so much so. I am not expecting only one loss again for us in the CAA. We could go easily go 6-5 or 5-6. and miss the playoffs. Is that enough to renew coach P contract? Time will tell. Something inside my gut tells me SB can go 1-10 and coach P contract will still be renewed.

Star players who have multiple FBS offers from Power Conferences keep on rolling for ELON.. It all comes down to recruiting and the coaches who reach out to these athletes.

https://247sports.com/Player/Omar-Rogers-46037140
Title: Re: 2018 Football
Post by: VA_Seawolf on July 27, 2018, 03:39:00 pm
Tomorrow is a big day at SBU as it's their annual 7 on 7 competition and many very good teams from the tri state will be in attendance and then once that is completed many future SBU recruits will make their cay to the campus to show off their talents in the prospect camp this is the third one and there will be three more to follow

According to Brian McLaughlin. Hero Sports, tweeted, ElON Just signed 5 hot recruits and 3 had FBS offers from big schools, and more to come... If ELON, who is still new to the FBS can garnish star players, why cant SB football do this. It all comes down to coaching. Chuck Priore needs to change things up with his staff and find some big names assistants who can recruit .

I follow some FCS fan page groups on FB and and people are all over the country talking about their FCS teams and news that relate to the FCS. Nobody every talks or brings up SB football.I am the only one who will bring up some topics about SB football. But, they will talk about every other CAA team . This is a shame. If SB wants to make a name for themselves in football then they need to start making noise and get loud. This will only happen with a coaching change and bring in new staff.. Follow ELON approach coach P if you want to get recognized!!!!!!

Elon is FCS lol. I think you meant new to the CAA? Or perhaps new to actually having a team with a pulse....

The thing with our recruiting this year will be this; Coach P hasn't had his contract renewed as this truly is a make or break season for him. In my mind, we'd need another playoff appearance (7-8 wins) in order to retain him since the schedule is much harder and a lot of our talent has graduated. This year will be a real test for Coach P and his staff. Until we know if we're renewing his contract or not, we're going to have a hard time recruiting players since no kid is going to want to commit to a school where they don't even know who the coach will be.

And while we're on the subject of recruiting, JMU has gotten several 3* commits and FBS transfers into their program. Their current team could probably win CUSA this year if they were FBS, so they're positioned to run this conference for a long time. Only way that changes is if an ACC school poaches their coach.

Typo, Elon is FCS not FBS. I think you know that already.

I agree with you that star players wont take chance on SB if they dont know if their HC will be around next season or not.

SB had an easy schedule last year. This year not so much so. I am not expecting only one loss again for us in the CAA. We could go easily go 6-5 or 5-6. and miss the playoffs. Is that enough to renew coach P contract? Time will tell. Something inside my gut tells me SB can go 1-10 and coach P contract will still be renewed.

Star players who have multiple FBS offers from Power Conferences keep on rolling for ELON.. It all comes down to recruiting and the coaches who reach out to these athletes.

https://247sports.com/Player/Omar-Rogers-46037140

How the hell.....
Title: Re: 2018 Football
Post by: Campi47 on July 28, 2018, 08:48:47 am
No one for the 2019 class can sign until December 22 (I believe) 2018 you can verbally commit but can't sign until then

When the 2019 classes become official we will then see how many of these verbal commits stay with Elon and how many get flipped to FBS Schools
Title: Re: 2018 Football
Post by: Hammertime on July 28, 2018, 10:02:07 am
No one for the 2019 class can sign until December 22 (I believe) 2018 you can verbally commit but can't sign until then

When the 2019 classes become official we will then see how many of these verbal commits stay with Elon and how many get flipped to FBS Schools

Good point Campi.. I'll try and check in from time to time to see who stays and who goes..

Another team that gets Star players and Power 5 transfers is JSU. They recently got a 4 star graduate LB from Kentucky who could have been a starter for Alabama and has NFL aspirations..
Title: Re: 2018 Football
Post by: VA_Seawolf on July 28, 2018, 07:19:07 pm
No one for the 2019 class can sign until December 22 (I believe) 2018 you can verbally commit but can't sign until then

When the 2019 classes become official we will then see how many of these verbal commits stay with Elon and how many get flipped to FBS Schools

Funny you mention that...

https://www.cardiachill.com/2018/7/27/17624294/aj-woods-commits-pitt-pittsburgh-panthers-football-cornerback-germantown-james-madison-flip-narduzzi
Title: Re: 2018 Football
Post by: Hammertime on July 31, 2018, 06:42:49 pm
The Stony Brook coaches are all gitty about picking up a huge play maker today. Does anyone have any information to whom it may be!
Title: Re: 2018 Football
Post by: Campi47 on August 02, 2018, 04:27:47 pm
The SBU Coaches don't like to identify verbal commits they would rather have the player put it up on twitter himself
Title: Re: 2018 Football
Post by: Chairman of the Board on August 03, 2018, 08:28:45 am
just curious- at this level, is that less common? 
Title: Re: 2018 Football
Post by: sbufan on August 03, 2018, 10:12:22 am
I think it's actually an NCAA violation for the coaches to announce verbal commitment before the student signs a national letter of intent. Almost all the high school kids these days announce their commitment on twitter and instagram though.
Title: Re: 2018 Football
Post by: VA_Seawolf on August 04, 2018, 10:47:17 pm
Stony Brook ranked #12 in the initial Massey Composite for the season.

https://www.masseyratings.com/cf/compare1aa.htm
Title: Re: 2018 Football
Post by: Hammertime on August 05, 2018, 05:41:39 am
Stony Brook ranked #12 in the initial Massey Composite for the season.

https://www.masseyratings.com/cf/compare1aa.htm

Ahead of NH and Delaware?? Fake rankings..
Title: Re: 2018 Football
Post by: Seawolf97 on August 05, 2018, 10:51:10 am
We did finish 2nd in the CAA last season .  The first time we played UNH was when we  were still in the  NEC .  They crushed us at UNH 62 -7 so we have improved in he last 10-12 years .  12 th . is about right for now we beat UNH  last year and just lost to Delaware.
Title: Re: 2018 Football
Post by: guest260 on August 05, 2018, 03:02:41 pm
Just as an FYI, there is not such thing as a "verbal" commit in the eyes of the NCAA-so there can be any infraction. Until the NLI and the binding financial documents have been signed players can "commit" their undying love for a School and the program all they want. The only "commit" that counts is the NLI. Heck coaches even will over commit on the amount of scholarships available in an upcoming year leaving kids to get caught up with trying to find another school when the coach goes with someone else (thus the joke when coaches "offer" an 8th grader).
Title: Re: 2018 Football
Post by: Hammertime on August 05, 2018, 05:25:05 pm
The Stony Brook coaches are all gitty about picking up a huge play maker today. Does anyone have any information to whom it may be!

Well, This is why the coaches were sp gitty last week. Big Michigan Transfer, TE..


https://stonybrookathletics.com/news/2018/8/5/football-seawolves-add-michigan-transfer-tyrone-wheatley-jr-to-the-roster.aspx
Title: Re: 2018 Football
Post by: Seawolf97 on August 05, 2018, 08:43:16 pm
This could be a difference maker if our coaches use him correctly .  This kid can play football .
Title: Re: 2018 Football
Post by: VA_Seawolf on August 05, 2018, 11:06:30 pm
Kid was a 4* recruit coming out of HS and was the number 1 ranked player in the state. HUGE get. With how much Carbone has improved over the past couple years, I think we could have something special here.

I'm curious to see how well he blocks though. At 265lbs I'm assuming he can at least block decently well, but you never know. Time to look for some tape on him.
Title: Re: 2018 Football
Post by: Chairman of the Board on August 06, 2018, 08:42:55 am
yes we all remember the name- michigan RB and then on the giants. 

https://saturdaytradition.com/michigan-football/michigan-great-tyrone-wheatley-comments-sons-surprise-exit-um/

https://gbmwolverine.com/2018/08/03/michigan-football-tyrone-wheatley-jr-transferring-no-big-deal/


think he'll get a look from the jacksonville staff in 2019???   ::)
Title: Re: 2018 Football
Post by: Wolffan on August 06, 2018, 11:40:40 am
Looks like he is looking to make the pros and can't do much buried on the Michigan depth chart.  This means he'll be fired up to show folks what he can do. A  win-win for us. (Some injury issues at Michigan but reports are he is fully recovered).

The fact that a guy with this pedigree and talent would head to Stony Brook speaks volumes about SB's reputation - the opportunity for exposure (Will Tye, for example) is just part of SB's current attraction.
Title: Re: 2018 Football
Post by: VA_Seawolf on August 06, 2018, 12:23:45 pm
Looks like he is looking to make the pros and can't do much buried on the Michigan depth chart.  This means he'll be fired up to show folks what he can do. A  win-win for us. (Some injury issues at Michigan but reports are he is fully recovered).

The fact that a guy with this pedigree and talent would head to Stony Brook speaks volumes about SB's reputation - the opportunity for exposure (Will Tye, for example) is just part of SB's current attraction.

Absolutely! Plenty of guys have been drafted in the early rounds from the FCS too in recent years. Even Division 2 kids are being drafted in the second round now, so being in a league like the CAA, and having games against prominent teams like JMU will do wonders for him.

My only "concern" is does he stick around for 2019 if he plays well this year? Carbone is a senior and I'd expect at least some drop off between him and whoever the QB in 2019 is. Coach P might be gone too, so if he plays well this year, I wouldn't expect him back in 2019. Great for us in either case. I hope this is finally the guy who gets drafted out of SBU.
Title: Re: 2018 Football
Post by: Chairman of the Board on August 06, 2018, 02:40:28 pm
btw espn shows the AFA game at 2pm, our site says tba.  they were all over the map last year and should be solid again.  a good test for us.  it's a long trip and thinner air! GO SB
Title: Re: 2018 Football
Post by: Chairman of the Board on August 06, 2018, 02:44:52 pm
STATS #20 https://www.ncaa.com/rankings/football/fcs/stats-fcs-top-25

Athlon #25 https://fcsinsider.com/news/2018/6/5/football-athlon-announces-pre-season-top-25-fcs-rankings.aspx

Hero #24 https://herosports.com/fcs/hero-sports-2018-fcs-preseason-top-25-poll-ajaj

Compughter #22 http://www.compughterratings.com/2018-FCS-Preseason-College-Football-Rankings

Title: Re: 2018 Football
Post by: Hammertime on August 06, 2018, 05:56:08 pm
Looks like he is looking to make the pros and can't do much buried on the Michigan depth chart.  This means he'll be fired up to show folks what he can do. A  win-win for us. (Some injury issues at Michigan but reports are he is fully recovered).

The fact that a guy with this pedigree and talent would head to Stony Brook speaks volumes about SB's reputation - the opportunity for exposure (Will Tye, for example) is just part of SB's current attraction.

Absolutely! Plenty of guys have been drafted in the early rounds from the FCS too in recent years. Even Division 2 kids are being drafted in the second round now, so being in a league like the CAA, and having games against prominent teams like JMU will do wonders for him.

My only "concern" is does he stick around for 2019 if he plays well this year? Carbone is a senior and I'd expect at least some drop off between him and whoever the QB in 2019 is. Coach P might be gone too, so if he plays well this year, I wouldn't expect him back in 2019. Great for us in either case. I hope this is finally the guy who gets drafted out of SBU.

Totally agree. My only concern is with Carbone accuracy. Any good QB can make a receiver look good. Unfortunately, Carbone is not one of those accurate QB. Just saying. Joshua Zamot, is a freshman sitting in the wings and I have high hopes for this kid. Hopefully he can continue where he left off in High school.... 
Title: Re: 2018 Football
Post by: Chairman of the Board on August 07, 2018, 02:32:05 pm
a whole bunch of stuff to get you guys ramped up for the season:

priore on the redshirt rule: https://www.newsday.com/sports/college/stony-brook/stony-brook-football-red-shirt-1.20282992

AFA game is at 2pm EST and will be broadcast only on facebook: http://www.goairforcefalcons.com/sports/m-footbl/spec-rel/080118aaa.html

lawless gets some ink: https://herosports.com/fcs/football-kickoff-shayne-lawless-stony-brook-bzbz

SB adds another commitment at a skill position: https://buffalonews.com/2018/08/01/st-joes-lineman-gambino-commits-to-stony-brook/

cal daniels interview: https://herosports.com/fcs/football-kickoff-cal-daniels-stony-brook-bzbz


GO SB
Title: Re: 2018 Football
Post by: sbufan on August 08, 2018, 03:48:25 pm
The team is rolling out daily video updates from camp via twitter and instagram in case some of you aren't following or on social media. Today's is film session with the defensive line and coach Noel.

https://twitter.com/StonyBrookFB/status/1027246448650248193

Title: Re: 2018 Football
Post by: Campi47 on August 11, 2018, 10:32:17 pm
If you live on LI and rely on Newsday there is some info you should know Optimum is now owned by Altice so Newsday is now a stand alone. What that means is if you currently have access to Newsday on line because you had Optimum you will now have to pay separately to keep Newsday. Also Newsday is now being printed by the NY Times so late games won't make the next day paper thus forcing you to have on line access.

Title: Re: 2018 Football
Post by: Hammertime on August 12, 2018, 07:58:57 am
If you live on LI and rely on Newsday there is some info you should know Optimum is now owned by Altice so Newsday is now a stand alone. What that means is if you currently have access to Newsday on line because you had Optimum you will now have to pay separately to keep Newsday. Also Newsday is now being printed by the NY Times so late games won't make the next day paper thus forcing you to have on line access.

I refuse to pay a penny to read that rag paper .. They are the most Bias paper I have ever read..
Title: Re: 2018 Football
Post by: laxnation on August 12, 2018, 11:56:22 am
If you live on LI and rely on Newsday there is some info you should know Optimum is now owned by Altice so Newsday is now a stand alone. What that means is if you currently have access to Newsday on line because you had Optimum you will now have to pay separately to keep Newsday. Also Newsday is now being printed by the NY Times so late games won't make the next day paper thus forcing you to have on line access.

I refuse to pay a penny to read that rag paper .. They are the most Bias paper I have ever read..
It’s still has the best sports section in the country and it’s not even close.
Title: Re: 2018 Football
Post by: Chairman of the Board on August 12, 2018, 08:21:39 pm
heh, youre obviously being facetious, so well played.  ;D

and yes, the NY Slimes just hired a racist and is just ok with it. 
Title: Re: 2018 Football
Post by: Chairman of the Board on August 20, 2018, 04:46:28 pm
FCS #22 https://www.ncaa.com/rankings/football/fcs


CSM only has 11-25 and we're not in there so i assume out. http://www.collegesportsmadness.com/fcs-football/top-25-rankings
Title: Re: 2018 Football
Post by: Chairman of the Board on August 30, 2018, 11:46:14 am
https://www.wsj.com/articles/college-footballs-growing-problem-empty-seats-1535634001
Title: Re: 2018 Football
Post by: Seawolf97 on August 30, 2018, 02:17:56 pm
IT will be interesting to see how we do this year.  If we start winning games early  interest may pickup  beyond our usual 4-5k still going out there in Novmber.
Title: Re: 2018 Football
Post by: Hammertime on August 30, 2018, 04:02:56 pm
https://www.wsj.com/articles/college-footballs-growing-problem-empty-seats-1535634001

That looks like a real good article to read, but I cant open it.
Title: Re: 2018 Football
Post by: Chairman of the Board on August 30, 2018, 04:11:16 pm
sometimes with the journal you just have to keep refreshing or google the title and it beats the paywall.  more so a few years ago; they've tightened it up a bit.
Title: Re: 2018 Football
Post by: sbugold on August 30, 2018, 06:08:15 pm
I was just looking at the depth chart that was posted this A.M. for the USAF game.  A couple of things jumped out at me, and I wonder whether anyone has any insight:

-- Isaiah White is nowhere to be found.  This is his senior year, and I had taken the news that he had been moved back to RB (his normal position) as a sign that his prime time with the Seawolves had finally come.  But, he was never mentioned or seen on the promo videos during the summer.  He was such a highly rated prospect out of HS, but has never gelled here.  Anyone know what's up?

-- The other RB that doesn't show up on the depth chart is Kameron Pickett.  I thought he was destined to play a major role based upon the hype he was getting.

-- I was also surprised that Tyrone Wheatley at TE didn't show up higher in the rotation, based upon the attention he got when he transferred.
Title: Re: 2018 Football
Post by: Chairman of the Board on August 30, 2018, 06:47:29 pm
here's confirmation on the no re-entry to lavalle: https://stonybrookathletics.com/news/2018/8/30/together-we-transform-blog-together-we-transform-thursday-aug-30.aspx
Title: Re: 2018 Football
Post by: Seawolf97 on August 30, 2018, 07:41:25 pm
Interesting that some potential key players  are missing in action .  Maybe we will get some double speak  eventually from  the coaching staff.
Title: Re: 2018 Football
Post by: laxnation on August 30, 2018, 08:41:05 pm
Stony Brook ranked #12 in the initial Massey Composite for the season.

https://www.masseyratings.com/cf/compare1aa.htm

Ahead of NH and Delaware?? Fake rankings..

Final - Maine 35
          New Hampshire 7

Final - Rhode Island 21
           Delaware 19

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Title: Re: 2018 Football
Post by: VA_Seawolf on August 31, 2018, 12:23:56 am
Stony Brook ranked #12 in the initial Massey Composite for the season.

https://www.masseyratings.com/cf/compare1aa.htm

Ahead of NH and Delaware?? Fake rankings..

Final - Maine 35
          New Hampshire 7

Final - Rhode Island 21
           Delaware 19

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

The conference homer in me wants to make this out to be the rest of the CAA being stacked more than UNH and Delaware being overrated. Time will tell. Maine could be legit, but Rhody winning might be a fluke. They never win  :D :D
Title: Re: 2018 Football
Post by: iBOsbu on August 31, 2018, 12:36:35 am
Who would have thought Rams and Maine would start with wins and against good teams too. #CAAFB = #DOGFIGHT. We have legit chance to get an FBS win this weekend.
Title: Re: 2018 Football
Post by: Wolffan on August 31, 2018, 07:17:31 am
UNH/DEL as 2/3 preseason CAA poll was too high IMHO. There is a large quality dropoff after JMU and any one of five or six teams could have been be ranked right behind JMU (including SBU, Villanova, Elon, etc.) in the CAA.

So, these were CAA upsets, but not huge CAA upsets IMHO. (URI or Maine beating JMU would be a huge upset)

Last year URI opened up like gangbusters, taking FCS Central Michigan to the wire before losing in overtime. And Delaware is no Central Michigan. And last year UNH was mysteriously obliterated by a weak Holy Cross (Patriot League) team 51-26 so losing badly to Maine is not entirely unprecedented.
Title: Re: 2018 Football
Post by: Chairman of the Board on August 31, 2018, 09:03:00 am
not just SB- but look at the other games- we could very well see more than one CAA-FBS upset this weekend: http://www.espn.com/college-football/scoreboard/_/group/48/year/2018/seasontype/2/week/1
Title: Re: 2018 Football
Post by: DCwolf on August 31, 2018, 10:08:28 am
Last year URI opened up like gangbusters, taking FCS Central Michigan to the wire before losing in overtime. And Delaware is no Central Michigan. And last year UNH was mysteriously obliterated by a weak Holy Cross (Patriot League) team 51-26 so losing badly to Maine is not entirely unprecedented.

The other thing with New Hampshire yesterday: they were without Trevor Knight for a majority of that game. He was carted off early in the first half, and that's when the wheels really fell off. Doesn't fully explain their defense giving up 35 and 450 yards, but might account for how they were held to 116 yards of offense, half of which came on one play.
Title: Re: 2018 Football
Post by: DCwolf on August 31, 2018, 10:12:40 am
Interesting that some potential key players  are missing in action .  Maybe we will get some double speak  eventually from  the coaching staff.

An Athletics official tells me the two-deep won't change but both Kameron Pickett and Isaiah White could see playing time this weekend.

I still find it odd why they're not listed on the depth chart at all, but it sounds like they're with the team and will be suited for tomorrow. We'll just have to see I guess.

Update: I'm reliably told Isaiah White is taking a redshirt this season, which makes some sense since he had to break his redshirt his freshman year. Ty Son Lawton is also redshirting, but Kam Pickett is expected to be the third RB behind Donny and Jordan.
Title: Re: 2018 Football
Post by: Seawolf97 on August 31, 2018, 11:29:43 am
Air Force reminds me of a lot of Army . They are not that big  compared to our guys -the downside is there are 85 of them with schollies .  Add the altitude at the academy and maybe mid day heat it could be a long afternoon .  Our guys need to stay hydrated and be aware of their breathing .  Should be an interesting game.  As for UNH and Delaware losing that's great. We face both of them this season .
Title: Re: 2018 Football
Post by: sbugold on August 31, 2018, 12:52:05 pm
"Update: I'm reliably told Isaiah White is taking a redshirt this season, which makes some sense since he had to break his redshirt his freshman year. Ty Son Lawton is also redshirting, but Kam Pickett is expected to be the third RB behind Donny and Jordan."


Now, it's all beginning to make some sense.  Thanks, Seawolf97!
Title: Re: 2018 Football
Post by: laxnation on August 31, 2018, 02:19:42 pm
Air Force reminds me of a lot of Army . They are not that big  compared to our guys -the downside is there are 85 of them with schollies .  Add the altitude at the academy and maybe mid day heat it could be a long afternoon .  Our guys need to stay hydrated and be aware of their breathing .  Should be an interesting game.  As for UNH and Delaware losing that's great. We face both of them this season .
High temperature is only supposed to be 78 degrees.
The altitude is bs!  Played 2 lax games at midfield in 3 days versus Air Force and Denver and no problems whatsoever!
Title: Re: 2018 Football
Post by: VA_Seawolf on August 31, 2018, 04:08:30 pm
not just SB- but look at the other games- we could very well see more than one CAA-FBS upset this weekend: http://www.espn.com/college-football/scoreboard/_/group/48/year/2018/seasontype/2/week/1

Yep. All of them are winnable for the CAA including our game. The closer and closer we get to kickoff, the better I feel.

Air Force reminds me of a lot of Army . They are not that big  compared to our guys -the downside is there are 85 of them with schollies .  Add the altitude at the academy and maybe mid day heat it could be a long afternoon .  Our guys need to stay hydrated and be aware of their breathing .  Should be an interesting game.  As for UNH and Delaware losing that's great. We face both of them this season .

Absolutely. They run the triple option just like Army. Their guys are no bigger than ours and could likely be smaller actually. They'll definitely be smaller than the USF team we played, and we hung with them the whole game!! The key to the triple option is discipline and I think our defense will fare fine against it. My only concern is the altitude. If we can run the ball well though and control the clock, that will be mitigated. I'm excited!
Title: Re: 2018 Football
Post by: laxnation on August 31, 2018, 04:30:34 pm
not just SB- but look at the other games- we could very well see more than one CAA-FBS upset this weekend: http://www.espn.com/college-football/scoreboard/_/group/48/year/2018/seasontype/2/week/1

Yep. All of them are winnable for the CAA including our game. The closer and closer we get to kickoff, the better I feel.

Air Force reminds me of a lot of Army . They are not that big  compared to our guys -the downside is there are 85 of them with schollies .  Add the altitude at the academy and maybe mid day heat it could be a long afternoon .  Our guys need to stay hydrated and be aware of their breathing .  Should be an interesting game.  As for UNH and Delaware losing that's great. We face both of them this season .

Absolutely. They run the triple option just like Army. Their guys are no bigger than ours and could likely be smaller actually. They'll definitely be smaller than the USF team we played, and we hung with them the whole game!! The key to the triple option is discipline and I think our defense will fare fine against it. My only concern is the altitude. If we can run the ball well though and control the clock, that will be mitigated. I'm excited!
If you get there before the day of the game, the altitude is not a factor.
Title: Re: 2018 Football
Post by: VA_Seawolf on September 01, 2018, 01:24:10 pm
Less than an hour until kickoff. Get hyped guys!!! I like our chances.
Title: Re: 2018 Football
Post by: Campi47 on September 02, 2018, 01:25:06 pm
Somebody recently asked about Isaiah White he is academically ineligible this year will return next as a RB
Title: Re: 2018 Football
Post by: Chairman of the Board on September 04, 2018, 09:37:40 am
CSM: unranked http://www.collegesportsmadness.com/fcs-football/top-25-rankings

Athlon: unranked https://athlonsports.com/college-football/fcs-rankings-power-poll-following-week-1-2018

Hero: unranked https://herosports.com/fcs-football-rankings

STATS: #24 http://www.fcs.football/cfb/polls.asp?div=fcs

CBS: #24 https://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/rankings/full

Compughter: #39 http://www.compughterratings.com/FCS/rankings

Title: Re: 2018 Football
Post by: VA_Seawolf on September 04, 2018, 11:34:39 am
The Massey Composite has us at #24 as well.

https://www.masseyratings.com/cf/compare1aa.htm
Title: Re: 2018 Football
Post by: Campi47 on September 05, 2018, 04:19:15 pm
Both Bryant and Rhode Island have HC that either came on last or this year and both of these guys have won at every level and in both cases it would not surprise me if they were in very tight games with SBU.

Jim Fleming who coaches Rhode Island was the Sacred Heart HC when they beat us up pretty good 3 or 4 years ago
Title: Re: 2018 Football
Post by: Chairman of the Board on September 10, 2018, 12:37:07 pm
VA thanks for the massey ratings, i've added:

CSM: unranked http://www.collegesportsmadness.com/fcs-football/top-25-rankings

Athlon: unranked https://athlonsports.com/college-football/fcs-rankings-power-poll-following-week-2-2018

Hero: #28 https://herosports.com/fcs-football-rankings

STATS: #23 https://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/rankings/full?irgwc=1

Compughter: #30 http://www.compughterratings.com/FCS/rankings

Massey: #24 https://www.masseyratings.com/cf/compare1aa.htm


Athlon has the conference breakdown and youll see CAA on top.
Title: Re: 2018 Football
Post by: VA_Seawolf on September 13, 2018, 09:33:46 pm
Richmond barely squeaks by St. Frances tonight. They needed a game winning TD with 1 second left in order to take the lead. The only reason they won by 8 is because they ran the lateral on the kickoff back for a defensive TD.

It's good they won tonight though, because otherwise, we'd have to prepare for an angry team who has 10 days to prepare for us.
Title: Re: 2018 Football
Post by: Seawolf97 on September 14, 2018, 10:50:20 am
Thats a good sign and glad St Francis gave them a fight .
Title: Re: 2018 Football
Post by: VA_Seawolf on September 15, 2018, 04:46:21 pm
Rhode Island loses a close on at Uconn 56-49. Very entertaining game that was close until the final play of the game.

URI is legit this year and they will not be an easy out. I think we can definitely win that one at home, but it won't be easy. No easy games left on our schedule.


Towson takes down Villanova on the road 45-35

I really don't know how the CAA schedule will play out this year. Everyone looks so strong. This has to be the most competitive slate of teams top to bottom in the conference's history. Anybody can beat anybody else (I wouldn't be surprised if JMU lost a game somewhere).
Title: Re: 2018 Football
Post by: Seawolf97 on September 15, 2018, 09:13:34 pm
You are 100%   VA Seawolf  this is going to be a  tough conference schedule .    Anything can happen   so many strong teams to play.
Title: Re: 2018 Football
Post by: Chairman of the Board on September 16, 2018, 07:41:10 pm
i watched about half of the URI game.  they actually shot themselves in the foot at times- mental errors, flags, leaving receivers open.  they looked good otherwise, and couldve won this game on the road.  what a turnaound.
Title: Re: 2018 Football
Post by: Chairman of the Board on September 17, 2018, 09:33:33 am
updated rankings:

CSM: unranked (4 CAA teams) http://www.collegesportsmadness.com/fcs-football/top-25-rankings

Hero: #24 https://herosports.com/fcs-football-rankings

CBS: #21 https://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/rankings/full?irgwc=1&irgwc=1

Compughter: #26 http://www.compughterratings.com/FCS/rankings

Massey: #25 https://www.masseyratings.com/cf/compare1aa.htm

STATS: #24 http://www.fcs.football/fcsfront.asp

Athlon: unranked (only 1-12, CAA is top ranked conference) https://athlonsports.com/college-football/fcs-rankings-power-poll-following-week-3-2018
Title: Re: 2018 Football
Post by: VA_Seawolf on September 22, 2018, 01:24:50 pm
Buffalo is dismantling Rutgers right now 35-6 in the second quarter. Rutgers is an embarrassment of a football program and I know the B1G has to regret taking them.
Title: Re: 2018 Football
Post by: Seawolf97 on September 22, 2018, 10:09:48 pm
They lost 8 starters about a month ago. Credit Card fraud and theft so they will be playing for NJ Stata next season in orange  jumpsuits . Real knuclheads
Title: Re: 2018 Football
Post by: ecasadoSBU on September 22, 2018, 11:04:27 pm
Buffalo is dismantling Rutgers right now 35-6 in the second quarter. Rutgers is an embarrassment of a football program and I know the B1G has to regret taking them.

Rutgers being Rutgers. I don't even dislike the program. I wish em well. But boy... they stink. year after year!

...and not just in football. All their revenue programs stink! Coach Pikiell is cashing in but I'm sure he probably knows is going to be nearly impossible to improve that program
Title: Re: 2018 Football
Post by: Chairman of the Board on September 24, 2018, 09:45:16 am
polls:

Athlon #20: https://athlonsports.com/college-football/fcs-rankings-power-poll-following-week-4-2018

CSM #20: http://www.collegesportsmadness.com/fcs-football/top-25-rankings

Hero #15: https://herosports.com/fcs-football-rankings

CBS #19: https://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/rankings/full?irgwc=1&irgwc=1&irgwc=1

Compughter #14: http://www.compughterratings.com/FCS/rankings

Massey #11: https://www.masseyratings.com/cf/compare1aa.htm

STATS #18: http://www.fcs.football/fcsfront.asp
Title: Re: 2018 Football
Post by: Seawolf97 on September 24, 2018, 11:53:11 am
We continue to move up  in the polls.  Huge game Saturday night !
Title: Re: 2018 Football
Post by: VA_Seawolf on September 24, 2018, 03:29:16 pm
Chairman, STATS has us at number 18, not 20. I also think it's notable that we're 11 in the Massey composite. Villanova is #6. Heavyweight match-up regardless.


We continue to move up  in the polls.  Huge game Saturday night !

This is probably the biggest game at Lavalle since we joined the conference. I know we've hosted #2 Richmond and beat them, but the expectations were a lot lower then. Were it not for the #1 vs #3 XDSU bowl, this would easily be the game of the week nationwide. Can't wait until Saturday.

For the lover of God I'd love to sell the whole place out standing room only. We'll see!! 
Title: Re: 2018 Football
Post by: Chairman of the Board on September 24, 2018, 03:58:42 pm
fixed, thanks!
Title: Re: 2018 Football
Post by: Chairman of the Board on October 01, 2018, 09:09:31 am
updated rankings:

CSM: #14 http://www.collegesportsmadness.com/fcs-football/top-25-rankings

Hero: #12 https://herosports.com/fcs-football-rankings

CBS: #13 https://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/rankings/full?irgwc=1&irgwc=1&irgwc=1

Compughter: #14 http://www.compughterratings.com/FCS/rankings

Massey: #15 https://www.masseyratings.com/cf/compare1aa.htm

STATS: #13 http://www.fcs.football/fcsfront.asp

Athlon: #11 https://athlonsports.com/college-football/fcs-rankings-power-poll-following-week-5-2018
Title: Re: 2018 Football
Post by: Hammertime on October 01, 2018, 11:25:30 am
updated rankings:

CSM: #14 http://www.collegesportsmadness.com/fcs-football/top-25-rankings

Hero: #12 https://herosports.com/fcs-football-rankings

CBS: #17 https://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/rankings/full?irgwc=1&irgwc=1&irgwc=1

Compughter: #14 http://www.compughterratings.com/FCS/rankings

Massey: #16 https://www.masseyratings.com/cf/compare1aa.htm

STATS: #18 http://www.fcs.football/fcsfront.asp

Athlon: #11 https://athlonsports.com/college-football/fcs-rankings-power-poll-following-week-5-2018

So Stats has SB moving from #20 last week to #18 today, and V only moving down 2 spots but is still ahead of SB?????

What a joke.
Title: Re: 2018 Football
Post by: ry1nik on October 01, 2018, 12:10:46 pm
updated rankings:

CSM: #14 http://www.collegesportsmadness.com/fcs-football/top-25-rankings

Hero: #12 https://herosports.com/fcs-football-rankings

CBS: #17 https://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/rankings/full?irgwc=1&irgwc=1&irgwc=1

Compughter: #14 http://www.compughterratings.com/FCS/rankings

Massey: #16 https://www.masseyratings.com/cf/compare1aa.htm

STATS: #18 http://www.fcs.football/fcsfront.asp

Athlon: #11 https://athlonsports.com/college-football/fcs-rankings-power-poll-following-week-5-2018

So Stats has SB moving from #20 last week to #18 today, and V only moving down 2 spots but is still ahead of SB?????

What a joke.
Not necessarily.  SB had the home field advantage and the outcome came down to the last play of the game. You can't really say SB is the better team at this point.
Title: Re: 2018 Football
Post by: Chairman of the Board on October 01, 2018, 12:18:20 pm
i know all polls use different criteria- but there is more than just head to head.  meaning, they look to the whole body of work thus far. 

with that said, i believe head to head is a critical factor, but again, not the only factor.
Title: Re: 2018 Football
Post by: VA_Seawolf on October 01, 2018, 01:04:09 pm
Chairman, I think you need to wait until the afternoon to post these polls. Compughter and the Massey Composite may have updated already, but the STATS poll and FCS coaches poll have yet to actually be released to the public. You posted last week's rankings there which just adds to the confusion. In a couple hours we'll know where we're at the polls that people actually look at. The STATS and FCS coaches poll.


I anticipate being somewhere in the 11-13 range today. A win next week will put us in the top 10 across the board, so it's a big game coming up this weekend at Towson. I'm thinking about making the trip up there myself.
Title: Re: 2018 Football
Post by: Chairman of the Board on October 01, 2018, 01:16:25 pm
they stage them before they post- so for the few that arent out sunday, you simply change the URL in the link from week x to week y and you can find their poll.  so they are this week's rankings, unless they change them after staging but before releasing.  you can tell by the dates and sometimes the records.

i dont think any one poll is definitive and all use different criteria.  id rather have a broader view than a narrow one, as a result...
Title: Re: 2018 Football
Post by: VA_Seawolf on October 01, 2018, 01:29:24 pm
STATS top 25 for this week was just updated. We're #13 now

http://www.fcs.football/cfb/polls.asp?div=fcs

I expect the Coaches Poll to be available within the hour, but the STATS poll is what most use and is the closest equivalent to the AP poll FBS teams use.
Title: Re: 2018 Football
Post by: Chairman of the Board on October 01, 2018, 02:02:13 pm
great, thank you!
Title: Re: 2018 Football
Post by: Chairman of the Board on October 01, 2018, 02:23:37 pm
fixed, we are 11-15 across the board
Title: Re: 2018 Football
Post by: VA_Seawolf on October 01, 2018, 02:52:06 pm
FCS Coaches is also out now. SBU is #13 in that one as well.

https://www.ncaa.com/rankings/football/fcs/fcs-coaches-poll

Moving on up guys!!
Title: Re: 2018 Football
Post by: Campi47 on October 01, 2018, 03:49:16 pm
I know our Kicking game has been bad however this week coming up the senior PK will be returning from a high Ankle Sprain which has kept out all season while he's only average I was told that he has been kicking really well so it has to be better than what's been happening lately.

As for next year SBU has offered 2 or 3 PK's for next year and they all visited last Saturday so the hope is that one will commit real soon
Title: Re: 2018 Football
Post by: Campi47 on October 01, 2018, 03:55:21 pm
The next 4 games are interesting as Towson is on the rise, NH is having an off year, Delaware is only average at best and Rhode Island is on the rise. The 5th game is JMU which will have a bye week the week before we play them.
Title: Re: 2018 Football
Post by: Campi47 on October 01, 2018, 03:59:17 pm
When I said last week that President Stanley is the big supporter as President Kenney was it's that she loved football while he is more into Basketball and Lacrosse so that is what I was trying to say
Title: Re: 2018 Football
Post by: Chairman of the Board on October 01, 2018, 04:02:23 pm
The next 4 games are interesting as Towson is on the rise, NH is having an off year, Delaware is only average at best and Rhode Island is on the rise. The 5th game is JMU which will have a bye week the week before we play them.

agreed, was thinking the same. 

i dont think we really have a chance against JMU in harrisonburg- i hope im wrong- they might be as good as AFA.  they're a threat to score on every possession so 3&outs will be key for us. 

PS in their opening loss to NCST, that's a top 25 team, 1A of course...
Title: Re: 2018 Football
Post by: ecasadoSBU on October 01, 2018, 06:43:55 pm
Will this be the year that UNH misses the Playoffs?

Even if they win out they can only get 7 wins.

I'm good with taking their playoff bid! lol

Title: Re: 2018 Football
Post by: Hammertime on October 02, 2018, 03:00:06 pm
Ranked 11th.

https://athlonsports.com/college-football/fcs-rankings-power-poll-following-week-5-2018
Title: Re: 2018 Football
Post by: VA_Seawolf on October 02, 2018, 11:49:05 pm

agreed, was thinking the same. 

i dont think we really have a chance against JMU in harrisonburg- i hope im wrong- they might be as good as AFA.  they're a threat to score on every possession so 3&outs will be key for us. 

PS in their opening loss to NCST, that's a top 25 team, 1A of course...

With everything against us (bye week, their homecoming), I'm not expecting a win in that one. I think we'll need to keep it fairly close though if we want to get some respect come the postseason. If we only lose by single digits, that's a win in my book. They've been winning their games by 40+ thus far.

Will this be the year that UNH misses the Playoffs?

Even if they win out they can only get 7 wins.

I'm good with taking their playoff bid! lol



They're not beating JMU at the absolute minimum. Never mind our game. The streak is done. I've never seen a team go from having such hype to being in the toilet so fast.

Last year we got screwed out of a seed, but the CAA is getting enough respect this year, that if we lose a close one at JMU, but win the rest we should have a seed. We'd have three ranked wins, and only a single loss in the best FCS conference in the country. If we don't get a seed this year with a resume like that, the committee is full of s***.

I'm really worried about this upcoming game at Towson, as the CAA is a fight every week. That said, I anticipate we go 4-2 down the stretch, and finish with an 8-3 record that gets us solidly in the playoff field. A playoff bid at 7-4 is doable, but we'd be sweating it out on selection Sunday with strong teams from other conferences.

If we take care of business at home, and bury the puppy dogs at the end of the year like we should, 8-3 would be the final mark. We've been able to bury two CAA teams with the ground game in the second half, and when you play fundamental football like that, bad losses shouldn't happen. I do expect a non JMU loss somewhere though. We'll see. I'm happy to be wrong on that one.

I think I'm going to make the trip out to Towson this weekend as I haven't been to their stadium yet. Should be a great game.
 
Title: Re: 2018 Football
Post by: Hammertime on October 03, 2018, 07:24:29 am
I like it.
http://www.college-sports-journal.com/fcs-playoffs-til-i-die-fcsplayoff-field-wild-guess-number-three-10-2-2018/amp/
Title: Re: 2018 Football
Post by: Chairman of the Board on October 03, 2018, 08:50:11 am
thanks.  i think we beat towson in baltimore.  their resume so far doesnt impress but i know they'll give us a tough out.

i hope UNH wins this weekend so they arent looking for an upset when we head up there.  they should beat Holy Cross at home, no?  i dont know how that team upset yale (?).

Title: Re: 2018 Football
Post by: Chairman of the Board on October 03, 2018, 08:50:24 am
I think we'll need to keep it fairly close though if we want to get some respect come the postseason. If we only lose by single digits, that's a win in my book. They've been winning their games by 40+ thus far.

yep

GO SB
Title: Re: 2018 Football
Post by: Hammertime on October 03, 2018, 11:55:55 am
thanks.  i think we beat towson in baltimore.  their resume so far doesnt impress but i know they'll give us a tough out.

i hope UNH wins this weekend so they arent looking for an upset when we head up there.  they should beat Holy Cross at home, no?  i dont know how that team upset yale (?).

Flaco leads the FCS in total yards.. This game is going to be high scoring.
Title: Re: 2018 Football
Post by: VA_Seawolf on October 03, 2018, 10:17:07 pm
I like it.
http://www.college-sports-journal.com/fcs-playoffs-til-i-die-fcsplayoff-field-wild-guess-number-three-10-2-2018/amp/

I can hope for a seed. That would be fantastic. Though I think he's discounting the brand value of a school like Eastern Washington for getting a seed. The committee (like the FBS playoff committee) prefers large brand names for high seeds and greater exposure.

Glad we're in great shape thus far in the season though. GO SB!!
Title: Re: 2018 Football
Post by: Chairman of the Board on October 04, 2018, 09:08:43 am
couldnt be a truer statement.  money talks.
Title: Re: 2018 Football
Post by: VA_Seawolf on October 04, 2018, 04:37:22 pm
Uniform combo for Towson announced:
https://twitter.com/StonyBrookFB/status/1047924501441261570

We'll be rocking the all white look, which is my personal favorite out of everything we've got. I hope to see the white jersey and helmet with the red pants at some point, but I'm not complaining.
Title: Re: 2018 Football
Post by: Campi47 on October 07, 2018, 01:12:06 pm
Hammer went to the Ward Melville game yesterday your son looked good I thought he was done for the year.
Title: Re: 2018 Football
Post by: Hammertime on October 07, 2018, 01:46:50 pm
Hammer went to the Ward Melville game yesterday your son looked good I thought he was done for the year.

My son is #73. He was on the sidelines. He left after the first half because of a family function we had last night. He had ACL surgery almost 2 weels ago now.
Title: Re: 2018 Football
Post by: Campi47 on October 07, 2018, 03:46:11 pm
Sorry I confused him with another player
Title: Re: 2018 Football
Post by: Hammertime on October 07, 2018, 04:08:41 pm
Sorry I confused him with another player

Trust me, we are living with the aftermath of an injury with my son in his senior year.Pain is being felt all around in my family this season...
Title: Re: 2018 Football
Post by: VA_Seawolf on October 11, 2018, 03:51:31 pm
Looks like they were listening when I mentioned the white/white/red uniform combo!

https://twitter.com/StonyBrookFB/status/1050461208527089664

Gonna look sharp out there when we get that win on Saturday. 
Title: Re: 2018 Football
Post by: Seawolf97 on October 11, 2018, 07:12:25 pm
Looks good. 
Title: Re: 2018 Football
Post by: VA_Seawolf on October 13, 2018, 06:00:06 pm
Just noticed Delaware is streaming their game vs Elon today on Youtube. If we're not picked up by any other network, I think us doing something similar may be a good idea. I prefer Youtube streaming to Facebook personally, but I guess either works.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mEuA6ciTa_k&feature=youtu.be
Title: Re: 2018 Football
Post by: Chairman of the Board on October 18, 2018, 04:21:03 pm
this projection has 5 CAA teams in: http://www.fcs.football/cfb/story.asp?i=20181016095048548571304
Title: Re: 2018 Football
Post by: Seawolf97 on October 18, 2018, 08:36:07 pm
Need to win 3 of our last 4  games.   Maybe knockoff James Madison along the way . 
Title: Re: 2018 Football
Post by: VA_Seawolf on October 18, 2018, 11:43:38 pm
Need to win 3 of our last 4  games.   Maybe knockoff James Madison along the way .

Agreed. We do this we're a lock. JMU will be an extremely tough out though as it's their homecoming and they'll be coming off of a bye week. Our bye is the week after with Delaware at home after. I do worry about Delaware as they're pretty good this year. I really want us to get that one after last year.

If we somehow win out, I have no doubt we win at least a share of the CAA and get the playoff seed we were screwed out of last year. Maine and Towson play each other, and there's another loss on the schedule for one of those teams somewhere.

In the meantime, I'm just going to enjoy the URI game on Saturday! Hoping for a HUGE crowd and a big win. I think Rhode Island still doesn't have their starting QB.
Title: Re: 2018 Football
Post by: Chairman of the Board on October 21, 2018, 08:20:58 am
maine drops one to W&M (didnt see that coming).  but are still in the mix along with del/elon/towson.

towson looks great but has four tough games left (del/maine/elon/jmu).  elon has RI, towson, maine and can realistically win out so that towson game is gonna be critical.  JMU should win out but closes with towson.

so all eyes should be on those towson tiggers.  heck, they could stumble at delaware next saturday.
Title: Re: 2018 Football
Post by: VA_Seawolf on October 21, 2018, 02:22:34 pm
There's going to be a significant shake up in the rankings this week after #2, #5, #6, #14, and #16 all fell to lower ranked competition this weekend. JMU should move up to #2 or #3 come tomorrow, and you could make a strong case for us being in the top 10. 

Title: Re: 2018 Football
Post by: Chairman of the Board on October 23, 2018, 03:20:23 pm
for whatever it's worth- AFA has been less than stellar since we played them. http://www.espn.com/college-football/team/_/id/2005/air-force-falcons

offered up only because it's a good measure of where we sit.  i imagine JMU could probably beat them, or any service academy for that matter.
Title: Re: 2018 Football
Post by: VA_Seawolf on October 23, 2018, 09:36:31 pm
A mediocre FBS team beating good FCS team isn't uncommon or unusual. Several times top 10ish FCS teams have gotten killed by mediocre FBS teams only to then go on a deep playoff run. Teams are different year to year and can improve as the season goes on. At the end of the day, even if you're North Dakota State or JMU, you've got 22 less scholarships to give out and that depth can catch up to you. Air Force was also an option team, and even high elite programs struggle with that offense. Oklahoma almost lost to Army this year.
Title: Re: 2018 Football
Post by: Chairman of the Board on October 29, 2018, 01:32:19 pm
CSM #14: http://www.collegesportsmadness.com/fcs-football/top-25-rankings

HERO #18: https://herosports.com/fcs-football-rankings

CBS #18: https://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/rankings/full?irgwc=1&irgwc=1&irgwc=1&clickid=WJWXAlXD%3AUAiVfOTmaUrJ36YUkg1SvS2OwLqxE0

Compughter #17: http://www.compughterratings.com/FCS/rankings

Massey #15: https://www.masseyratings.com/cf/compare1aa.htm

STATS #16: http://www.fcs.football/fcsfront.asp

Athlon #13: https://athlonsports.com/college-football/fcs-rankings-top-25-power-poll-week-9-2018

Sagarin #18: http://www.college-sports-journal.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/fcs-sag-oct27.png

Sagarin playoff projection #16, at large #9: http://www.college-sports-journal.com/csj-sagarin-2018-ncaa-fcs-playoff-projection-oct-28/
Title: Re: 2018 Football
Post by: Seawolf97 on October 29, 2018, 03:42:25 pm
We are still above the Top20  which is great. Tough loss Saturday but to  top team by 3 points.  Not bad,
Title: Re: 2018 Football
Post by: Chairman of the Board on October 29, 2018, 03:58:07 pm
yeah.  i think the CAA getting in more than 3 teams is a good thing for us, possibly more than 4.  and someone has to lose the elon/tsu game, and the jmu/tsu game.

because even if we end up unseeded, i think we can beat likely play-in teams like SHU, and wofford, and SD, etc.
Title: Re: 2018 Football
Post by: VA_Seawolf on October 30, 2018, 07:56:44 pm
I think the CAA gets five teams honestly. JMU, Towson, Delaware, and then two of Elon, Maine and US. We're going to get our toughest first round opponent ever though likely as I feel like we're on a collision course with 7-0 Colgate in the first round. Especially if we drop any of our final two games. Colgate is legit this year.
Title: Re: 2018 Football
Post by: Chairman of the Board on October 30, 2018, 08:24:24 pm
been keeping my eye on 'gate.  very impressive defense.  schedule isnt what ours is, but still- holding teams to such low totals is outstanding.

with geography being a factor- it's a decent chance that if we get in, it's up to hamilton.

i think we can beat em.
Title: Re: 2018 Football
Post by: Wolffan on October 31, 2018, 03:45:45 pm
been keeping my eye on 'gate.  very impressive defense.  schedule isnt what ours is, but still- holding teams to such low totals is outstanding.

with geography being a factor- it's a decent chance that if we get in, it's up to hamilton.

i think we can beat em.

I think we can trounce slow-footed 'Gate. None of their victories have been v teams .500 or better. (Yes, they are better than Lehigh last year so I would not expect another 52-29 debacle).

Colgate has two more very soft Patriot League games and then plays FBS West Point. Kind of odd scheduling. Not sure how that  last game (a likely loss) would effect their seed. Especially if we win out.
Title: Re: 2018 Football
Post by: Chairman of the Board on October 31, 2018, 03:56:06 pm
maybe because it's in-state, or army in some sports is in the patriot league? 

either way army is pretty good this year.  i saw that okla game...
Title: Re: 2018 Football
Post by: VA_Seawolf on October 31, 2018, 04:11:45 pm
Yep. Army is in the Patriot for non-football sports, so they often wind up playing Patriot teams in football despite being FBS Independent vs the rest of the conference being FCS.

Colgate definitely gets a seed if they beat Army and win out as they'd be 10-0 with a legit FBS win over Army. We wouldn't have to worry about them in the first round in that case.
Title: Re: 2018 Football
Post by: Wolffan on October 31, 2018, 04:18:12 pm
I thought the scheduling/timing was odd in that Colgate completes PL league play and then plays an FBS opponent just prior to entering the FCS playoffs. (think of us completing CAA league play and then playing an FBS opponent just prior to the FCS playoffs).


(We may find out the effect [if any] of a loss in  the final game of the regular season - to FBS West Point - in terms of seeding.

Also see the scheduling/timing odd from Army's perspective in that they play Patriot League Lafayette and Patriot League Colgate back-to back this year.

(I follow PL  fairly closely and they regularly compete with Army in all sports)
Title: Re: 2018 Football
Post by: Wolffan on October 31, 2018, 04:32:50 pm
I thought the scheduling/timing was odd in that Colgate completes PL league play and then plays an FBS opponent just prior to entering the FCS playoffs. (think of us completing CAA league play and then playing an FBS opponent just prior to the FCS playoffs).


(We may find out the effect [if any] of a loss in  the final game of the regular season - to FBS West Point - in terms of seeding. Especially if we win out)

Also see the scheduling/timing odd from Army's perspective in that they play Patriot League Lafayette and Patriot League Colgate back-to back this year.

(I follow PL  fairly closely and they regularly compete with Army in all sports)
Title: Re: 2018 Football
Post by: VA_Seawolf on November 03, 2018, 02:10:31 pm
JMU losing BIG on the road right now to New Hampshire. Score is 21-3 UNH right now with 5 minutes left in the first half. No idea what the hell is going on.

Stream is on Fox Sports Go for those that are interested:
https://www.foxsportsgo.com/channel/35287/fcs
Title: Re: 2018 Football
Post by: Campi47 on November 03, 2018, 04:09:57 pm
Final UNH 35 JMU 24
Title: Re: 2018 Football
Post by: Seawolf97 on November 03, 2018, 04:18:08 pm
Beautiful  afternoon .  Now to get Delaware to lose and we will be ok
Title: Re: 2018 Football
Post by: VA_Seawolf on November 03, 2018, 05:06:38 pm
The remainder of the CAA race is going to be absolutely nuts with six teams having a shot at the outright or split CAA championship.

Maine and Towson are playing right now with Maine having a 14-7 lead at the moment, loser gets their second CAA loss. Elon was able to beat URI 24-21, so they hang on as one of two CAA teams with only one conference loss at the end of today. I'm torn on whether to root for Maine or Towson. At first I said Maine, but Towson has a much tougher remaining schedule than Maine does meaning it's probably best if Maine loses to Towson today. Elon faces both as their last two games.

If Towson loses to Maine today, beats Elon next weekend, loses to JMU in two weeks, and we win out the rest of the way, we'll win at least a share of the CAA championship with a 6-2 conference record. There are other scenarios that lead us to a CAA title, but that's probably the most straight forward one. No clue who the CAA tiebreakers would award the autobid to, but I'd wager whoever does get it would also secure a playoff seed and first round bye. Potentially lots of interesting chaos ahead. I'll say we had a good time to get the bye week!

To win the league outright (no tiebreakers, one true CAA champion, the following would need to occur:

SBU beats Delaware (11/10)
SBU beats Albany (11/17)
Towson beats Maine(11/3)
Elon beats Towson(11/10)
Richmond beats Maine (11/10)
Rhode Island beats JMU (11/10)
Villanova beats Delaware (11/17)
Maine beats Elon (11/17)
JMU beats Towson (11/17)

If all of the above happened, Stony Brook would sit alone at the top of the CAA at 6-2, Elon would be second at 5-2 (had their game against W&M cancelled), and everyone else would be 5-3 or worse in conference.
Title: Re: 2018 Football
Post by: VA_Seawolf on November 03, 2018, 06:45:22 pm
Delaware hangs on to win a close one @ Albany 21-16. I take from it that neither of our final two games will be easy. Delaware is beatable for us especially at home, but conversely Albany could definitely beat us.
Title: Re: 2018 Football
Post by: Seawolf97 on November 03, 2018, 06:49:05 pm
Crazy end to the season . So many options.
Title: Re: 2018 Football
Post by: VA_Seawolf on November 03, 2018, 07:01:18 pm
Incarnate Word  upsets Sam Houston State, and SE Louisiana upsets Mcneese in the Southland. Every team in that conference has at least three losses, and no team has more than two conference wins. The Softland is looking like a one-bid conference this year which I'm fine with. That whole league is a joke and it's shameful both SHSU and Central Arkansas both got seeds last year.
Title: Re: 2018 Football
Post by: ry1nik on November 04, 2018, 07:39:37 am
Delaware hangs on to win a close one @ Albany 21-16. I take from it that neither of our final two games will be easy. Delaware is beatable for us especially at home, but conversely Albany could definitely beat us.
If the worst team in the CAA can “definitely beat us,” then extending Priore’s contract is even more of a head scratcher. Hopefully you’re way wrong.
Title: Re: 2018 Football
Post by: Wolffan on November 04, 2018, 10:43:49 am
Delaware hangs on to win a close one @ Albany 21-16. I take from it that neither of our final two games will be easy. Delaware is beatable for us especially at home, but conversely Albany could definitely beat us.
If the worst team in the CAA can “definitely beat us,” then extending Priore’s contract is even more of a head scratcher. Hopefully you’re way wrong.

I think VASeawolf noted Albany "could definitely beat us" to highlight the strength of the CAA (top to bottom -  including Albany who is probably our biggest rival and who will be hosting us). If we beat Delaware we will be solidly favored to beat Albany.

Priore's build our overall program to a level that I expect to be a CAA champion contender each year going forward and expect to see us win the CAA if we can just land a QB (along the lines of the current Villanova/UNH/Towson QB's).
Title: Re: 2018 Football
Post by: Hammertime on November 04, 2018, 11:19:13 am
Delaware hangs on to win a close one @ Albany 21-16. I take from it that neither of our final two games will be easy. Delaware is beatable for us especially at home, but conversely Albany could definitely beat us.
If the worst team in the CAA can “definitely beat us,” then extending Priore’s contract is even more of a head scratcher. Hopefully you’re way wrong.

I think VASeawolf noted Albany "could definitely beat us" to highlight the strength of the CAA (top to bottom -  including Albany who is probably our biggest rival and who will be hosting us). If we beat Delaware we will be solidly favored to beat Albany.

Priore's build our overall program to a level that I expect to be a CAA champion contender each year going forward and expect to see us win the CAA if we can just land a QB (along the lines of the current Villanova/UNH/Towson QB's).

UNH QB knight single handedly beat JMU. If SB could find a QB with 50% of knight abilities, SB would be favored to win the CAA . We probably have the best defense in the CAA and quite possibly the best RB as well, it's just our QB issue is an ongoing thing year in and year out. Carbone didnt have a single scholarship offer from any FCS school. How does SB make him a 3 year starter?? I dont understand what is the problem here.
Title: Re: 2018 Football
Post by: Seawolf97 on November 04, 2018, 11:34:21 am
 So we have QBs in the wings waiting to take over in 2019 and Fields looks like the heir apparent . So we will see him for 3 years . The other candidates will probably never the see the ball.  That's the current system yet I look at the P5 teams and they switch  QBs at a wim no questions asked. 
Title: Re: 2018 Football
Post by: Hammertime on November 04, 2018, 12:35:22 pm
So we have QBs in the wings waiting to take over in 2019 and Fields looks like the heir apparent . So we will see him for 3 years . The other candidates will probably never the see the ball.  That's the current system yet I look at the P5 teams and they switch  QBs at a wim no questions asked.

We dont know how good or bad Fields is. But something tells me he is similar to Carbone. This is totally inexcusable for SB at this time. Carmen Felus is SB QB coach. he is also responsible for bringing in top talented QB to SB. If he doesnt have the tangibles to do that that say good buy and find a QB coach who can. This is a business and SB needs to take recruiting very seriously. Find the best people you can with the money and contacts available.

I have been watching this team going on 10 years now. The last good QB this school has ever had was Kyle Essington. That was years ago when SB was in the Big South. The time is now to bring in a big boy like Towson, UNH, and Maine, JMU always does..
Title: Re: 2018 Football
Post by: VA_Seawolf on November 05, 2018, 01:32:25 am
I agree with the sentiments of the QB position. Though we can aim way higher than just winning the CAA if we had a great QB. With this run game and defense? We'd be in Frisco playing North Dakota St. for the national title if we had Essington back there. NO idea how good the young guys we've got right now are, so I'll reserve judgement there. That said, there's got to be a talented FBS QB somewhere who would love the opportunity to transfer and instantly make SBU a national title contender.

Delaware hangs on to win a close one @ Albany 21-16. I take from it that neither of our final two games will be easy. Delaware is beatable for us especially at home, but conversely Albany could definitely beat us.
If the worst team in the CAA can “definitely beat us,” then extending Priore’s contract is even more of a head scratcher. Hopefully you’re way wrong.

They're our biggest rival and could potentially deny us a playoff bid with a loss. Plus it's a home game for them. We needed overtime to beat them last year, so there's no reason to think they couldn't beat us this year. Coach P has gotten some great wins at SBU, but we've had plenty of WTF losses over the years and that Albany game has all the makings to be one of them if we don't take care of business.

Title: Re: 2018 Football
Post by: newfan on November 05, 2018, 10:57:53 am


UNH QB knight single handedly beat JMU. If SB could find a QB with 50% of knight abilities, SB would be favored to win the CAA . We probably have the best defense in the CAA and quite possibly the best RB as well, it's just our QB issue is an ongoing thing year in and year out. Carbone didnt have a single scholarship offer from any FCS school. How does SB make him a 3 year starter?? I dont understand what is the problem here.
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Singlehandedly? I guess 6 JMU turnovers, including 2 returned for TD's don't mean much
Title: Re: 2018 Football
Post by: VA_Seawolf on November 05, 2018, 01:36:19 pm
SBU moves up to #12 in the latest STATS poll and #15 in the COACHES poll. Delaware is #11 in the STATS and #12 in the COACHES poll. In any case this is a top 15 matchup this weekend at Lavalle and carries huge playoff implications for both teams. Winner certainly jumps into the top ten and remains in the hunt for the CAA title, playoff auto-bid and potentially a first round bye in the post season. This one will be even bigger than the Villanova game, so a huge turnout is a must. I know we've always struggled with attendance after Homecoming, but this would be a great weekend to change that.


http://www.fcs.football/cfb/polls.asp?div=fcs
https://www.ncaa.com/rankings/football/fcs/fcs-coaches-poll
Title: Re: 2018 Football
Post by: sbufan on November 12, 2018, 09:37:11 am
Anyone notice that Jordan Scarbrough is no longer on the Stony Brook roster? It looks like he hasn't played since the Towson game? Was he kicked off the team?
Title: Re: 2018 Football
Post by: Hammertime on November 12, 2018, 02:49:14 pm
Anyone notice that Jordan Scarbrough is no longer on the Stony Brook roster? It looks like he hasn't played since the Towson game? Was he kicked off the team?

Good question.  I'll try and find out
Title: Re: 2018 Football
Post by: ry1nik on November 14, 2018, 11:20:07 am
If you want to feel dizzy try following the various scenarios for the CAA auto bid.
SBU is currently second behind JMU in the Sagarin ratings for tiebreaker purposes.

https://www.ncaa.com/news/football/article/2018-11-13/heres-every-scenario-will-determine-remaining-automatic-bids-fcs
Title: Re: 2018 Football
Post by: SBUwahoo on November 14, 2018, 01:38:05 pm
Scarborough is not on the team.
Title: Re: 2018 Football
Post by: Hammertime on November 14, 2018, 06:22:09 pm
Scarborough is not on the team.

that's a shame.  He was a beast
Title: Re: 2018 Football
Post by: VA_Seawolf on November 14, 2018, 09:07:50 pm
Buffalo is getting killed by Ohio on national TV right now. 37-10. Yikes. They should still win their division and play for the conference title, but this doesn't look good at all. They were receiving top 25 votes.
Title: Re: 2018 Football
Post by: VA_Seawolf on November 17, 2018, 01:49:59 pm
Some scores from around the country:

Alabama 10 Citadel 10 at the half

Maine 14 Elon 10 at the half, we need Elon to win in order to claim a share of the CAA title with a victory at Albany today

Villanova 21 Delaware 7 at the half. Delaware choking big time against probably their biggest rival for the second year in a row. They could be in regardless of what happens, though last year they missed the post-season after losing this game. Would take some of the luster off of our signature win this season.

Army 14 Colgate 0 at the half, Colgate still probably gets a seed even with a loss, though not a high one, they're likely second round opponent for us.

Towson vs JMU kicks off shortly. Not sure a seed is even possible for SBU anymore barring total chaos, but even then I still don't know what the preferred outcome for this game should be. A JMU win makes our loss to them look better, a Towson win makes our blowout loss to them not look so bad. I'd rather have the ladder. Winner of this game gets a seed even with a Maine victory. Maine got lucky with the CAA schedule this year missing us, JMU, and Delaware.
Title: Re: 2018 Football
Post by: iBOsbu on November 17, 2018, 02:19:10 pm
Maine has two kick returns of 93 and 95 yards for TDs.
Title: Re: 2018 Football
Post by: VA_Seawolf on November 17, 2018, 03:03:34 pm
Elon trailing by a point 26-27 with 4 minutes left in the game. They have all three time outs and just kicked the ball off to Maine again. It's not over. I wouldn't say things are great, but it's not over.


EDIT: Maine fumbles the snap on a third and five. Will kick the ball back to Elon with ~3 minutes left. Elon has all of their timeouts left I believe. 
Title: Re: 2018 Football
Post by: VA_Seawolf on November 17, 2018, 03:22:04 pm
Maine hangs on to win 27-26. Elon falls to 6-4 and is probably out of the playoffs.

Villanova is up by 3TDs on Delaware right now with 2 minutes to go. That one is all but over. UD will now be firmly on the playoff bubble.

JMU is leading Towson 24-10 at the half.


All we can do now is obliterate the puppy dogs.
Title: Re: 2018 Football
Post by: Chairman of the Board on November 20, 2018, 11:26:29 pm
honors: https://stonybrookathletics.com/news/2018/11/20/infantinos-boone-award-leads-11-seawolves-to-be-honored-by-caa-football.aspx
Title: Re: 2018 Football
Post by: VA_Seawolf on November 25, 2018, 12:57:30 am
Not SBU related, but watch the highlights of the LSU vs Texas A&M game. Or just watch the final two minutes and the overtime periods if you're seeing this and haven't had the result spoiled yet. That's a game that will be on ESPN classic in 20 years. Lucky I was able to witness it.
Title: Re: 2018 Football
Post by: Campi47 on November 30, 2018, 08:31:13 pm
Earlier today I put a post and it looks like it was blocked so I will reword and hopefully it will not be blocked this time

I'm probably one of the few people who thinks Coach P is dong a good job and glad he will be here for the next 4 years. The question that I want to know from everyone who bashes him and the AD for extending him is will any of you come in February when SBU has their signing day event and ask Coach P and Sean the tough questions about recruiting and how this team is being run because from all the posts I have read everyone has an opinion so that would the time to address those burning questions.
Title: Re: 2018 Football
Post by: Hammertime on November 30, 2018, 09:03:58 pm
Earlier today I put a post and it looks like it was blocked so I will reword and hopefully it will not be blocked this time

I'm probably one of the few people who thinks Coach P is dong a good job and glad he will be here for the next 4 years. The question that I want to know from everyone who bashes him and the AD for extending him is will any of you come in February when SBU has their signing day event and ask Coach P and Sean the tough questions about recruiting and how this team is being run because from all the posts I have read everyone has an opinion so that would the time to address those burning questions.

Camp, I have in the past. Do you honestly believe for one second, coach P cares what fans have to say? Trust me he doesn't.
Fans all over the country on every forum discuss,  argue,  complain,  agree about their team they are passionate about.  But for fans to go face to face with a HC is not appropriate and is wrong. It could actually get ugly.. I don't recommend it.
Title: Re: 2018 Football
Post by: VA_Seawolf on November 30, 2018, 10:34:44 pm
Buffalo loses the MAC Championship game to Northern Illinois 30-29. They had a 29-10 lead late in the third quarter.

If you didn't know any better, you'd think it was Coach P there on the sidelines for Buffalo lol  ;D ;D. In all seriousness that's a rough way for them to go out. This is still their best season in program history, but as we all know, it's awful to be one game away from winning the conference just to have victory snatched away from you in heartbreaking fashion. We know that feeling all too well.
Title: Re: 2018 Football
Post by: Chrissy D. on November 30, 2018, 10:53:30 pm
Campi, I am shocked that they would block or remove one of your posts cause you are always a gentleman.
Title: Re: 2018 Football
Post by: Hammertime on December 01, 2018, 04:51:58 am
Campi, I am shocked that they would block or remove one of your posts cause you are always a gentleman.

I seriously doubt anyone would remove Campi post. He is and always was a true gentleman. Must be a computer thing.
Title: Re: 2018 Football
Post by: Hammertime on December 01, 2018, 01:20:00 pm
Watching the JSU/Maine football game. Ferguson, Maine QB is the real deal. He has a rocket arm and very accurate. If SB can find someone close to his caliber,  then they would be scary.
Maine smoking JSU in the first half, so far..
Title: Re: 2018 Football
Post by: VA_Seawolf on December 01, 2018, 02:35:34 pm
Watching the JSU/Maine football game. Ferguson, Maine QB is the real deal. He has a rocket arm and very accurate. If SB can find someone close to his caliber,  then they would be scary.
Maine smoking JSU in the first half, so far..

Their defense has been lights out all year and they had an FBS win over WKU. Definitely the most underrated team in the CAA and probably the FCS this entire season. This is what we could be if we had a QB.
Title: Re: 2018 Football
Post by: VA_Seawolf on December 01, 2018, 04:15:27 pm
Maine beats Jacksonville State 55-27. Maine will advance to play the winner of SEMO vs Weber State.

JMU loses to Colgate on a last second field goal 23-20. Congrats to the Raiders. They'll play at NDSU next weekend barring a collapse by the Bison.

It would be fairly easy to chalk the loss up to the distractions surrounding Coach Houston, though JMU's QB threw 5 interceptions, so the fact that it was even close is a testament to JMU's defense. Coach Houston is certainly out the door and will not return next year as he's now rumored to ECU.

And to those who criticize us for being critical of Coach P, just take a gander at the comments JMU fans are saying about their national championship winning coach:
https://csnbbs.com/thread-864481-page-47.html


Title: Re: 2018 Football
Post by: ecasadoSBU on December 05, 2018, 01:05:22 pm
Its embarassing how poorly the league performed after getting so many bids. There is no way to hide the fact that the conference was absolutely over-rated!
Title: Re: 2018 Football
Post by: Campi47 on December 05, 2018, 01:44:57 pm
I disagree with those who say the CAA is overrated because if the Patriot, NEC or any of the FCS Conference winners had to play in the CAA week in and out they would have come away so beat up like the CAA teams did losing so many starters that when they got to the tournament they were playing without key players or playing hurt. Take Colgate what would their record had been if they played teams that SBU, JMU, Delaware, Towson, Etc. every week.

Title: Re: 2018 Football
Post by: ry1nik on December 05, 2018, 03:47:28 pm
Its embarassing how poorly the league performed after getting so many bids. There is no way to hide the fact that the conference was absolutely over-rated!
I agree. If Maine makes it to the championship game that should be some consolation.
Title: Re: 2018 Football
Post by: VA_Seawolf on December 05, 2018, 04:03:49 pm
We need Maine to make it as far as possible so that it doesn't look so bad for the conference. If they make it to Frisco, all the talk about the league being overrated will end overnight. Of all the CAA playoff teams, they were the lowest ranked one by the computers despite being the conference champion.

JMU losing to Colgate had a whole lot to do with the Mike Houston rumors during the week leading up to the game. I don't believe he prepared the team all that well, and by some of the playcalling decisions he made late in that game, you could tell he wanted them to lose so he could move on to ECU. The only really ugly loss was Towson losing by two scores at home to Duquense. That just shouldn't happen and was a real black mark for the league. As far as the rest of the conference was concerned, Delaware had to play JMU, so one CAA team was going to be eliminated regardless. Elon was banged up after a boatload of injuries and were underdogs on the road at SoCon champ Wofford. Our game could have gone either way, though to be fair we were on the road against a team that turned out to be better than we thought they were. Not a horrible loss. Only Towson was an embarrassment to the CAA.

Title: Re: 2018 Football
Post by: Campi47 on December 22, 2018, 12:24:15 pm
We all keep talking on new threads and old threads about the future of SBU Football so I just want to make some points about that;

Many FCS Programs have moved up to FBS and there are other Schools that are contemplating moving up at this time. In fact it's my opinion that the lower FBS Programs are really the high end of the FCS.

The CAA is still the elite conference and I say this because look at the competition in all the other conferences so what I would like to see is the CAA play the winners of all the other FCS conferences in a regular season game as an example CAA against the Big South, CAA against NEC, Etc.

Lastly I think SBU has to play against 2 FBS per year (elite program like say Oregon and non elite like Old Dominion)

I just wanted to start a conversation and look forward to others opinions
 
Title: Re: 2018 Football
Post by: Hammertime on December 22, 2018, 02:03:27 pm
We all keep talking on new threads and old threads about the future of SBU Football so I just want to make some points about that;

Many FCS Programs have moved up to FBS and there are other Schools that are contemplating moving up at this time. In fact it's my opinion that the lower FBS Programs are really the high end of the FCS.

The CAA is still the elite conference and I say this because look at the competition in all the other conferences so what I would like to see is the CAA play the winners of all the other FCS conferences in a regular season game as an example CAA against the Big South, CAA against NEC, Etc.

Lastly I think SBU has to play against 2 FBS per year (elite program like say Oregon and non elite like Old Dominion)

I just wanted to start a conversation and look forward to others opinions

I would love to see SB play 2 FBS teams every year. I am not so sure would do one P5 and one G5. Playing two G5 teams gives us a chance to snag a win or two, thus putting us on the national radar. If all we do is play a power team year in and year out, chances are SB wont ever win another FBS game.
Title: Re: 2018 Football
Post by: VA_Seawolf on December 22, 2018, 02:48:43 pm
We all keep talking on new threads and old threads about the future of SBU Football so I just want to make some points about that;

Many FCS Programs have moved up to FBS and there are other Schools that are contemplating moving up at this time. In fact it's my opinion that the lower FBS Programs are really the high end of the FCS.

The CAA is still the elite conference and I say this because look at the competition in all the other conferences so what I would like to see is the CAA play the winners of all the other FCS conferences in a regular season game as an example CAA against the Big South, CAA against NEC, Etc.

Lastly I think SBU has to play against 2 FBS per year (elite program like say Oregon and non elite like Old Dominion)

I just wanted to start a conversation and look forward to others opinions

I have mixed feelings on this. I think the way SBU currently schedules is good and is in the same vein that Alabama schedules. You play your big game to start the year (the FBS game), play a couple cupcakes to get some wins and build momentum, and then allow the CAA schedule to provide you with the quality wins and SOS you need for a high playoff seed. I think what we currently do is fine. A second FBS game would be a guaranteed loss 9/10 times and would be another tough game on our players we don't need. Our policy of scheduling middling to good G5 teams, or low end P5 teams is a sound one. I wouldn't change the FBS scheduling.

What I would do is during years where we get that 12th regular season game (like 2019), I'd go out and try to get a big dog from another conference on the OOC schedule. A Montana, Sam Houston State, North Dakota State, Eastern Washington, Jacksonville State, Kennessaw State, somebody of that level. A true elite FCS Program. I'd do that in the years we get that 12 game rather than get another game against Bryant or Wagner on the schedule.

All in all I'm happy with our scheduling. It's challenging enough without being so difficult that it hurts our playoff chances. If we absolutely must make it tougher, replace the second cupcake home game with a home/home series against a strong FCS program.